ATI's Next-Gen

As people here have said, this particular ATI chipset (note - it\'s not their next big project, that\'s still unrevealed) is just for hardwiring on to the motherboard. It\'s actually fairly beneficial in that it really raises the standard for basic 3D. Look at it this way: right now, your best hope in built-in video is a Voodoo 3, and that\'s probably the 2000 model. If you don\'t wind up with that, then you\'re probably using a Rage Pro! When you can assume that even the sub-$1000 users can have T&L acceleration, that changes how you design your games.

i always was partial to Hardball on the c64, all though summergames was cool. I never liked kayaking.

Well, I don\'t know about 12,5 polygons a second,
but then again, looking at the fillrate, that seems a bit iffy.

No one may have commented on this. But, > 330million textured
pixels per second at 4 pixels a clock puts it at a very low clockspeed.
It doesn\'t say dual textured even.

However, they say they have a parallel rending architecture. This
could be similar to that of the Maxx, with alternate frames, but
with built in T&L and clipping, I would say that the T&L chip
could probably have multiple clip zones, and then send them to two
screen zones in segmented memory. This would allow
multiple chips to render multiple triangles at once with no
performance hit. It would require some pipelining, but it would
be doable. You would have to put the clipping plane between
the two buffers in the correct place for performance though.

For example you wouldn\'t want a mid screen clip plane from side
to side in a landscape, because more polygons would go
to the bottom zone (you could adapt the plane position for optimal
performance, but it wouldn\'t allow the segmented display
buffer).

Who the fuck wants a soldiered in POS ATI on a POS mobo hawgin all
your system mem? That is why they call it an agp SLOT! lol

12.5 poly/sec??? did they mean 12.5 million or does the C64 kick their ass?

YES!!!!! Excitebike 64! This is the most awaited sequel of all time IMHO. I hope they have a build-your-own-track feature. Oh wow.

Sadly, I\'m not even kidding. The original was the first nintendo game I ever played and it\'s still my favorite.

This is the second reference to a \'virtual agp\' scheme. Sure would be nice to get some clarification on exactly wtf that means.

i had a commodore 64. it was all about the epyx games like summer games, summer games 2, and winter games. hell yeah. the commodore 64 back then was what the dreamcast is now, except way cooler.

nvidia
is
god

i forgot to check if my Commodore64 was y2k compliant

just kidding it\'s a pos. but i do have a voodoo1. i\'m sure it will be worth a buttload 25 years from now when it goes vintage.

quake 1 and my virge chip 0wns all you llamas!

muwahahahahaha!

#25, i was referring to their vaporware board for PC\'s, that was supposed to be the \"next big thing.\"

12,5 polygons per second

Hot diggidy! This beast is fast enough to run UT\'s highest poly-count levels!

12.5 polygons per second? Sign me up!

O\'Doyle Rules is from Billy Madison

I laugh so hard I cried , what all us nvidia owner will be doing if ati comes out with a good 2d-3d chipset . ATI has the money and it looks like they are going to get back all the oem\'s lost to nvidia and the 128 chipset.

NV10 is supposedly 15mil/s

IT\'S ALIVE!!!!!!!!!

Oh yeah! Another POS card from Canada\'s finest with undoubtebly worthless drivers! Sign me up!

I think it\'s supposed to be 12.5 million per second. Is\'nt the GeForce like 10 million or something?

Um, only 12.5 polys per second? Typo?

Thanks #4 :D

well said #12 - I was going to say the same, but I\'ll just give you props instead :)

It sounds like the old crappy SIS built in video, except with 3D. The only memory that the video hardware has is the memory it steals from your cpu.

Regardless of any fancy AGP extension and how great the 3D silicon is, the fastest supported memory is PC133. So it will face a memory bottleneck before even a GeForce SDR. Not to mention the fact that is has to share the memory\'s banwidth with everything else.

This board is designed to be fast compared to other integrated solutions. For gamers, it will suck.

That is all.

cot

> 12,5 polygons per second

Wow, that\'s more than I would have expected for ATI. Just might be able to support a real slow game of pong.

cot

8xAGP?

Why don\'t they just build the video right into the cpu and main memory.

I haven\'t even seen that much difference between 1 vs 2 AGP yet.

I bet they have like 2 gigs of bandwith in their RAM. That is about AGP X8 eh ;-)

1)Revolutionary new parallel rendering architecture for state of the art pixell fill rates
2) Industry leading 8x Virtual AGP graphics performance and functionality
3) 4MB to 64MB of main memory configurable for display memory\"

1- What are the numbers?
2- 8x what? news to everyone there
3- 4mb? muhahahahaha

Bullshit.
Bullshit!