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  Listed price: EP2 $29 TF2 $29 Portal $19 If you want all 3 then go with the Orange Box, you can giv... : devi| dog
  • How do I give away my original HL2 and Ep1? I still haven't found a way to do it. : Nitrium
• Cheapest way to get them is the Orange Box. I doubt Valve is going to sell a cheaper packge with just Ep2... : freshyk
• You're not rebuying anything, you're saving $35 from buying the games individually and you get a couple p... : forgottenzero
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  Why is everyone complaining about this...? Pretend that you're paying $45 for EP2, Portal and TF2, and b... : mockery
  • WHAT, HL2 IS INCLUDED?! I ALREADY HAVE IT, FUCK THIS SHIT : forgottenzero
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    Because logically if you want the 3 new ones it should be cheaper than 5 new ones. It's just the package... : devi| dog
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      I wan't to play Half Life 1, but I don't want any of the Xen levels. I demand that Valve offer me a Xen-... : YamatoTwinkie
      • I actually enjoyed the Xen levels the last time I played through HL. Different from the rest of the game,... : Orange Pylon
      • How about we just do a "pay to play" you get charged by how far you get into each game. Kinda like prepa... : devi| dog
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      Or perhaps they are including HL2 and EP1 for free? : glio1337
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        Yeah, but my point is that's now how the public views it which causes the issue. It needs to say "Buy TF... : devi| dog
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          Eh, I didn't give it a second thought when I heard about it. And really, after installing TF2, EP2 and Po... : glio1337
          • Just completed here! HL is one of the few games I'll buy without hesitation, but I can see the need for ... : devi| dog
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          What do you mean by "the public"? Dude you're talking about a ridiculously narrow segment of gamers. Most... : Magus
          • Disregard my last two sentences, I see what you're saying now. ;p : Magus
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    45 DIVIDED BY 5 IS 9. I WANT TF2, HL2 Ep2, AND PORTAL FOR $27. IF NOT THEN WHAT THE FUCK IS UP WITH THE... : EvilDolemite
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      Please be a sarcasm post, please. : Sapiens
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        Please be a sarcasm post. : devi| dog
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          Mine wasn't, sorry. :( : Sapiens
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            please stop being sarcastic for a minute : stamps
            • Please be a sarcasm post. : Ride-My-Rocket
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      They're selling video games, not a commodity. That's like trying to trade in two Logitech MX500s for a si... : sgtsanity
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        how is buying a new game like trading in something old for something new? : strandgeck
        • Both examples of math suck. : sgtsanity
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    I had hoped steam/valve would be above raping it's customers when I first learned about the episodic idea... : strandgeck
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      I just cannot comprehend the leaps of logic behind sentiments like these. I swear there is nothing a d : peanut-
      • I just don't think anyone figured on paying 50$ for TF2, it's not that the package is a bad deal.. it's t... : Pneum0
• yep. the Black Box was cancelled and buying them individually costs even more than the Orange. : Uthar Wynn
• jesus who cares. dont think of if as you're paying for rebuying this shit, think of it as $44 for 3 new g... : not work safe
• If any of you whiners don't want their EP1 key, I'm offering a service where you can give it to me for a ... : basketofkittens
• Yes you're "re-buying" the titles for a cheaper price than if you had bought all of the items singularily... : moogle
• I look at it as Valve giving away HL2/ep1 as incentives for people not in the franchise. Those sonsafucki... : Audhuml4
• Yep. That's how they set it this time around. It's up to you to decide if it's worth paying for, even tho... : Orange Pylon
• Best Buy or Circuit city will undoubtedly have the Orange Box PC for $39.99 or less within the first week... : PenicillinX57
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  orange box. 15 bux each for ep2, portal and tf2. : mista mista
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    what?! i cant buy tf2 for $15? i don't see it on steam :( : papaskot
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      I don't think TF2 will be sold separately. You need the orange box IIRC. : -efx-
      • nm, I need to learn to read. : -efx-
• They'll most likely be having just Episode 2/TF2/Portal in their own package sometime around the release ... : deject
• Even if you already own HL2 and Ep1, Orange Box is the best value your are going to get out of any releas... : aeg1x
• Are you people all on crack? $15 each for TF2, Ep2, and Portal. Great fucking deal. I will get more gamin... : Magus
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  This is really killing me tbh. I have zero interest in playing ep1, ep2, or portal (yell and scream all y : InfoBiter
  • UPDATE: I just bought the Orange Box ... call it an impulse buy. I figured I'd come to the conclusion tha : InfoBiter
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  LEAVE VALVE ALONE!!! : scottythejock
  • I mean it!!!!! : DingoStoleMyBaby
  • hahahahaha : razlebol
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  If Valve was smart, they would have charged the $50 ($45 for preorder) for just TF2, HL2:E2, and Portal, ... : bipolar
  • $51 ($46 preorder) total, not additional. Just to clear that up. : bipolar
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  The package would probably be the same price without those titles. Consider them freebies at this point.... : Zips
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    it was $39 http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/45383 so only 5 bucks less, but this is the special pre... : pyide
    • Seems like it was 10 bucks less, given Black box should have been subject to a pre-order discount as well... : Pneum0
• Valve should of put a checkbox on the purchase of the orange box, that said "yes please give me hl2 and e... : pieman
• God man, stop being a cheap ass. It's 44 bucks for a mountain of gaming, HL2:EP2, Portal, and TF2 is a h... : kainen1
• just buy it.. its the cheapest way to buy it and HL2 & EP1 are free. Your not paying for them : Shadowdane
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  To all of you who say that TF2 is going to be awesome...how many of you still play DoD? : deathofrats
  • I have the Black Box...courtesy of my 2900XT...got Stalker with it as well for only $420 including shippi... : Skyburst101

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  http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/3513/76624131wj3.jpg : boomstickah
  • what the hell : Degenerate
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    damn is suge knight getting out of jail or something ? he used to be out of shape like shit : qwpeoriu
    • afaik Suge has been out of jail for a couple of years now. : riptyde
  • thank you. back to the pull-ups : lacker
  • holy crap : riptyde
  • holy crap : filtersweep
  • Holy Crap : devi| dog
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    holy shit, he used to be kind of pudgy. : pigvomit
    • http://www.rocklibrary.com/images/EntityImages/2200/2225/dr%20dre%202%20rrl%20ready.jpg : redfive
  • ??????! : pyide
  • steroids : JINKY
  • Crappy Hole! : cockoftehwalk
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    big deal he is wearing a different type of shirt. : CoRDS
    • with more muscles underneath : scottythejock
  • i'd hit it : PapaBoo
  • Andre Young aint nothing ta fuck wit : SpaecKow
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    Yo, you want to talk about this concrete? Ngz, I'm a scholar. The incredible, hetero-sexual, credible - ... : kainen1
    • wow... he IS a scholar : MagicWishMonkey
  • Damn, get out the gym and put out a new album already. : Pettytheft
  • He must be working out with Reznor : wykd
  • http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/8b/Arrested_Development_-_In_God_We_Trust2.jpg see left : JINKY
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  what the fuck happened to his left index finger : not work safe
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    Wish 1: I wanna be rich. Wish 2: I wanna be ripped. Wish 3: I want my left index finger to be a cig... : pupismyname
    • lol : anthonybean
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      Lol you just made me choke on a cooky. : [7]kami
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        Who spells that word with a y, seriously. Is it a Canadian thing? : c0bra
        • I can assure you it's not. : digitalsneek
        • Someone who doesn't have enlish as a native language, smartass. : [7]kami
    • you rang? : MagicWishMonkey
  • completely calloused over from the burns : painangel
  • Last night I was attending one of my classes and realized (after 3 or 4 classes) my professor has one fak... : xtofuconsumerx
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  Same thing happened to my CJ from San Andreas : spiderfill
  • He constantly held down X? : pigvomit
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  First thing I said to my wife when he walked out "He looks like he has been in prison for the last 3 year : hoopfam4
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    ugh *now* completely afraid. fuck, jokes lost by now... : hoopfam4
    • no your post is still funny, but for a different reason : alarm cock
  • He can afford a team of trainers, 3 life coaches, 6 nutritionists and a dolphin. : skitzo
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  On getty there are pictures of him from 2006 and he looks very fit then too. I definitely wouldn't wanna ... : h o s t i l e
  • I guess part of their contract is joining the Aftermath gym. : skitzo

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  well that's a different angle... Part of me thinks it's a good commercial and another part of me sort of... : dedgecko
  • cheapens their fictional accounts of a fictional war? what : gokart.
  • oh lord. : broly1718
• here we go : jonin
• awesome. : broly1718
• Wow best game commercial ever that doesn't show any gameplay : bozer
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  This is why Halo is such a good universe. Their ability to portray different areas of the game universe i... : Sailor of Fortune
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    Oh come on :) It's just Band of Brothers style interviews and you could do this for any number of fps/ac... : GeorgeB3DR
    • Yeah, I don't think its anything ground breaking. That said, its refreshing to see at least the marketin... : SolrFlare
    • True. Kind of reminds me of the Gears of War mad world trailer. That kicked ass too. I wonder if its the... : bozer
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      True, but do they? To me a successful sci-fi franchise/universe does more outside the main scope than ... : Sailor of Fortune
      • I agree. This is why stuff like Firefly and Star Wars will always be > Star Trek. : action wombmate
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      I don't think you'd be able to pull it off with those other games. Master Chief is a pretty heroic char... : YamatoTwinkie
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        follow freeman : bradsh
        • which mostly consisted of getting in freeman's way : vigilante
        • yeah, I considered that, but they're not really "soldiers" that can evoke the WW2 thing, just civilians w... : YamatoTwinkie
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        But that's a moving target. The issue at hand is whether a rich universe is required to support this kind... : sgtsanity
        • while I'd agree that it's not *required*, it certainly makes it more effective. : YamatoTwinkie
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        I think HL2 is the only other game you could do it with. Imagine a rebel re-telling the story of when ... : Beady
        • it would be like 300, only in HL2.... and only about 1 guy.... : dedgecko
    • bah, totally disagree. Doom.... nobody around to even care. Quake? Uh quake.. Maybe quake 4 but your ch... : paravis
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      duke nuked >:( (seriously do a parody of this for DNF plz) : mikecyb
      • okay I meant duke nukem... I'm going to bed :( : mikecyb
  • I think this is why Halo has such a good marketing team :) : spiderfill
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    lol...what is so special about the Halo universe? It is simply a war story. The same commercial could hav... : byorn
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      What FPS has the main character as a worldwide/universally(within the game's universe... ) known solider/... : paravis
      • Half Life 2? : Autocrawler
• I really like this commercial. So different from every other game commercial that I have ever seen. It so... : eldiablo01
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  So basically this spoils the whole series and shows humanity lives on. : ashkie
  • oh i know. its so totally shocking and unexpected. : HojuSimpson
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    haha, didnt think of it that way... : cyclonebee
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      If you notice, the man in the ad retired from the UNSC Marines in 2581 after starting in 2551. 30 years o... : Sailor of Fortune
      • he goes on to spawn a long series of sequels and spinoffs, making everyone millions of dollars : Gauss
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        My great wish is for him to die nobly : EvilDolemite
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          He defeats the covenant only to die the next weekend in an ATV accident while driving DUI. : pigvomit
          • Killed by Donut. : snagger
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    Like I said in the last thread, I really doubt Bungie had any say whatsoever in this ad, and in turn, how... : glio1337
    • No, Bungie had approval of everything. : Chris Remo
• I absolutely love it. : EvilDolemite
• Great commercial/marketing idea. : thief
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  1: You only saw human soldiers in that diorama. No enemies? 2: That commercial promises a lot or charact... : Tissen
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    3. it's a lame commercial, not the actual product. : pyide
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      Well, unless it's totally lame, it should bear at least some resemblance to the real product. : Tissen
      • it's like, totally lame, duder. : pyide
• I will play Halo 3 because the games are great fun, but that commercial would not make me want to purchas... : theghostofsmdever

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• im afraid that the awesomeness from the screen will blow the clothes right off me and Ill be forced to wa... : klearlyunseen
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  He was cooler when he fought commie than he is now, fighting terrorists, but that's just me : melt_core
  • yes, it is just you. : klearlyunseen
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  it looks awesome but it also looks like favreau may be taking the bit too hokey jokey approach like raimi... : pyide
  • Impossible. Cant be done. Schumacher has set the bar and it will never be bettered. : scottythejock
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  batman kills fucking superman, you think ironman stands a chance? : boring gegtik
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    Batman more like buttman : SpaecKow
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      buttman can still take on a bucket of rust : boring gegtik
      • this is getting hot : klearlyunseen
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        I do not make myself completely clear - when I say buttman I say so because batman likes butts. The butts... : SpaecKow
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          just to be clear the ironman movies going to be shittier than hulk while the batman movies are basically ... : boring gegtik
          • just to be clear your'e a quear : SpaecKow
          • YOU'RE OFF MY CHRISTMAS CARD LIST NOW JERK. : Rauol Duke
          • You'd think after that 5 hour setup/introduction of a movie they called The Incredible Hulk that they'd m... : ImageOmega
        • this is getting hot : klearlyunseen
  • Universe man would pwn all Universe man, Universe man Size of the entire universe man Usually kind t : Lightbulb
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  I'm usually angry and drunk, just no superpowers. : gmd
  • Keep Drinking, they'll show eventually. Usually it's something like invulnerability. : theargent
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  because deadpool exists? :/ : alarm cock
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    deadpool can't fly god dammit! : SpaecKow
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      Iron man can't break the fourth wall : alarm cock
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        Iron Man doesn't roll with Bob either. : Rauol Duke
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          Or the Penitraitor! : lightsam
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            hehe. The last arc was awesome. I hope Cable doesnt come back. : kikilupo
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              I read the other day Cable & Deadpool was going away and was going to be just Cable. I hope Deadpool eith... : Rauol Duke
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                Where'd you see that about Cable? I dont see how that's currently possible. But I dont really keep up on ... : kikilupo
                • It was on Newsarama. I don't read any of the other X books either. Apparently they're doing something lik... : Rauol Duke
    • He can fly... when someone throws him. : lightsam
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  the fact his actions led to the cap being killed makes fans hate him even more. Don't forget about how ... : grabbie
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    What I'm wondering is if he stays an ass after he becomes Iron Man or he becomes some feel-good, complete... : Degenerate
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      In the comics, he changes after becoming Iron Man. : lightsam
      • He's still an ass in general though. I just dont want them to turn him into a boy scout. : Degenerate
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    Cap is alive, and on life support or some shit. : lightsam
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      They buried his ass in ice. The guy writing it has said over and over that Steve Rogers is dead. He hasn' : Rauol Duke
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        Yeah, The Chosen might be taking place just before. Then again... who knows. There were rumors of the : lightsam
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          I think it's going to be Clint Barton. He turned it down in that one where he hangs out with Iron Man and : Rauol Duke
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            Or Bucky. He has the shield and Punisher gave him Steve's mask he picked up just after Steve surrendered : lightsam
            • I hope not, he's kind of cool now and too "hard" to be Cap. : Rauol Duke
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          Isn't "The Chosen" one of those Marvel Knights books that takes place out of Marvel continuity? (Kinda li... : wretchedradio
          • Exactly. Chosen isn't in the "actual" Marvel universe. : AxeMan808
  • NERD TIME: I hate how in other books he's all "YAAAR!!! I'm Iron Man and a gigantic cock and you guys ar... : Rauol Duke
• I've never been a huge fan of Iron Man for some reason, even though I like the idea of a regular human ab... : Dynotaku
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  Read the new issue of Thor (#3) that just came out. Thor > Iron Man : HojuSimpson
  • Hell yes. I've been waiting for that to happen. : kikilupo
  • I picked that and issue 2's reprint yesterday. I think I'm going to start reading this monthly now. I lik... : Rauol Duke
• Screw them all, where's my Lobo movie? : Mad Brahmin Disease

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  I've seen the Wii in stock at a few places now. However, I still have a lot of fun with it. MP3, RE... : Rice-Rocketeer
  • Funny..all of the popular nintendo games are either sequals or new versions of old games. : xtofuconsumerx
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  The Wii is running on a hype train out of control, I know at least 3 people who have purchased them, love... : abrasion
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    Tell that to Zelda and Metroid Prime 3 dude. If more games of Metroids caliber come out for that system t... : NastyJack
    • I'd really like to see an influx of FPS games for it, blatantly copying Metroid's control scheme. What Re... : Entity
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      So 2 games....... - hell let's add RE4 for 3 games - I bet the regular gamer loves that. The Wii is so : abrasion
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        Ehh I disagree. I play alot of games and like I said I use it just as much as my 360. : NastyJack
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          I agree with abrasion. I don't personally know of any dedicated gamers that use the Wii more than the 360... : Drewus
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            lol what the hell is a dedicated gamer? : NastyJack
            • Regular gamer, 'normal' gamer, not a casual gamer. : abrasion
    • just like most Nintendo systems. 1st party games are great every 6 months, and then... : derelict515
• I play them about equal. For 360 I've got Dead Rising, Bioshock, Gears of War and Tiger Woods. For Wii... : NastyJack
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  It's almost like one system has had a year to build library and one hasn't : geedeck
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    This means nothing anymore, not to me at least. The system is almost a year old, and between now and this... : qwpeoriu
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      I don't know really what to say. You hate games? SSBB, MP3, SMG and gaggles of other titles? Also I th... : geedeck
      • <3 : MoreVespeneGas
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        I hate games because I'm not interested in most of what's coming out for the Wii ? Actually I'm not even ... : qwpeoriu
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          Haha, yeah I was being a skosh silly about the you hate games things. Guilty. -I admit to being a Nin... : geedeck
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            what the fuck does skosh mean? Are you Scottish or something? : bozer
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              http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_English_words_of_Japanese_origin : geedeck
              • interesting. I thought I was maybe the only person who didn't know what that meant : bozer
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            Oh crap, yes. Fire Emblem I forgot about that one also. I'm also thinking I wouldn't mind seeing Intellig... : qwpeoriu
            • So yeah, I think even if the Wii doesn't have what most people want now, they have fantastic momentum for... : geedeck
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            I really hope Wii fit fails miserably and people think about what it means to be fit. : lacker
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              what? : MoreVespeneGas
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                he thinks trivialising fitness into a game is a stupid idea : scottythejock
                • It's like the guitarists against guitar hero thing. I think Guitar Hero is the perfect analogy too : geedeck
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          What decent fighting game is actually online? : atom519
          • SF2, Mortal Kombat 3, Dead or Alive 4 are all online. Fighting games are pretty much over for me though I... : bozer
          • Not many, that's why I don't buy too many of them. Guilty Gear on xbox 1 was fun. I picked up SF2 for XBL... : qwpeoriu
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        I agree, this is the first time a console has done anything differnt with the controller. It's a whole n... : Pneum0
        • Not really. Before the NES Atari and Intellevision mostly used a joystick (and paddles and other stuf... : MoreVespeneGas
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    tell me about it, i hate how people always compare the xbox 360 liebary to the wii and the ps3. they just... : knightblade87
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      Yeah, the first 3-6 months of the 360's existence was to be a Geometry Wars machine. It's like we games h... : geedeck
      • or gamers are blinded by nosaiga. i played super metriod the other day i liked all 3 prime games better, ... : knightblade87
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        You're wrong. Fight Night 3, Oblivion, GRAW, were all out within 5 months of the 360's release. : sigpro
        • dead rising, fortza, burnout revenge, They had quite a few releases not very far in. : carazy
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    I will make you a bet. One year into the Wii launch. Compare the Wii library to the 360 library from No... : EvilDolemite
    • Do you think we really even have to make that? : geedeck
    • Whats the answer? The 360 right? : bozer
    • I will take you up on this bet : carazy
• A friend has both and was just saying he has an equal list of games he's interested in. : drodver
• whenever i have my friends over after a night out, we go right for the Wii. it definitely gets played mo... : Korban
• This is really the wrong website to judge Wii usage. : MoreVespeneGas
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  I've played about 8 hours of Zelda and 5 hours of wii sports and that's it. : red2lucas
  • Pretty much the same here...with about 10 or so hours of Resident Evil 4. Don't get me wrong, I love t... : MacemanInTW
• i'm sure it's been said a bazillion times but xbox is great for hardcore gaming. the wii caters to a mor... : xindiren
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  I have unfortunately been very disappointed with the games that have come out on the Wii. When I fir... : devi| dog
  • thats pretty much exactly how i feel. i think i make one of these posts every few weeks where im on the f... : bozer
• i'm going to love playing the wii for the first time in the next year or so. there will be too many aweso... : pyide
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  I somewhat see your point, but the people on the shack aren't your typical Wii gamers. Also, it took... : atom519
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    i'd just like to see games that aren't a whole bunch of lesser games packaged together. : erotic sock
    • Yeah i've whinged about the amount of mini game comps, but we won't see that change because they are chea... : shavenewok
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    Im not sure I agree about the devs all flocking to it. I think that in a way they will, but they will wit... : bozer
    • Also, i need to go to sleep. I cant type : bozer
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      why? graphics over moneyhats? : ermac
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        Graphics = moneyhats for quite a few things. You know how we drool over screenshots that get released wi... : devi| dog
        • graphics are good for certain types of games. the wii, like the ps2, will be a great place for developer... : ermac
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          I think art tends to have more of an impact than graphics. WoW and Metroid Prime 3 (well, not the first ... : walker270
          • exactly art direction has a LOT to do with how the game is gonna look... you can have all the pixel pus... : Shadowdane
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    I agree with almost everything you say but i think most gamers are casual gamers also. I hate this whole... : grabbie
    • the whole casual/hardcore games have been around since nintendo release brain age and nintendogs, to me i... : knightblade87
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    I really hope you're wrong about the devs flocking to it, there might be 10 million out there or whatever... : abrasion
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      Devs realise the audience who own the Wii and it gets a tonne of shovelware / brand name rubbish and ends... : EvilDolemite
      • Which means it COULD impact PS3 and 360 sales - hardware and software - bad for all of us. I've also h... : abrasion
      • Well yeah. I definitely think the Wii is already getting a lot of shovelware crap. But the PS2 (and PS1 a... : qwpeoriu
    • I think if you have say 100 devs, 80 of them will work on the flagship "omg -- amazing online feature hav... : bozer
  • Yeah, the 360 is still the only console I hadn't picked up at launch date since the original NES. In fact... : qwpeoriu
• You all know that the Wii plays Gamecube games right? I just picked up 8 gamecube games to tide me over ... : rastafar1an
• Go ahead switch the style up and if they hate then let 'em hate and watch the money pile up. Shigeru M... : vigilante
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  I wish they'd come out and just say HEY GUESS WHAT SMASH BROS HAS NO ONLINE so I could just sell the fuck... : Bantis
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    if online play is the only thing holding you back from SSB, you have problems :[ : ermac
    • how so? : Bantis
  • just sell already. : hamachi
• Not as many people want what the 360 has to offer. People don't want to play games all the time, they do... : Boxelder
• I'm hanging onto mine for Nintendo's first-party games and that's really it. Bring on the 360, I say! : snagger
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  I go back and fourth so I think it's pretty even for my but I can get more utility out of the 360 with th... : melkore
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    Yeah thats true too. I can do a lot more with my 360 - watch movies, listen to music and all that streame... : bozer
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      you can do that with the Wii also : MoreVespeneGas
      • you can steam all the stuff from your PC with the Wii? I had an SD card in mine and it let me play photos... : bozer
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  kids love the ds and the wii, and their parents like the price. : Tommy Toolbag
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    also, Ive thought about buying a Wii just for Carnival Games, which looks like a complete blast to me, re... : Tommy Toolbag
    • you have to be sarcastic. the DS have a more "hardcore" games then the PSP. : knightblade87
• I have played 40+ games for my 360 including XBLA and I've only played 6 (owning only 3 games) on the Wii... : Sailor of Fortune
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  I'm broken you see. Dead rising, Gears of War ... the thought of playing through those titles bores me. : rosewood
  • I thought the same thing, but then tried them... specifically those 2 games and was hooked. The 360 is a... : carazy
• I think the last game I played on my 360 was Pac-Man CE months ago (whenever it came out). I played Bios... : Boxelder
• yeah mine has collected dust since about a month after launch...just no interest in any of the games avai... : agentlead
• It's probably about half and half, with most of my gaming time going to the PC now-a-days (fuck WoW). ... : walker270
• I have all 3 consoles and the only one I've really played in the last 8-9 months is the Wii... my 360 has... : MagicWishMonkey
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  I can already tell you who is going to post in this thread without even reading it. It's the same half-d... : aethyr
  • I will say, the DS is my most played system of the past year, easily, and if I get half as much playtime ... : aethyr
• I bought the wii on release date and was super excited about it. Even had the first one or two days man ... : carazy
• i dont play mine because i have no friends and no multiplayer capabilities : multisync
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  This is exactly why I sold it two weeks after having it...the thing just didn't do it for me. The control... : lookitzpancakes
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    I may not like the wii but when this comes out, the world is going to be a little bit happier. http://... : xtofuconsumerx
    • sure you probably won't see this but I'm 95% sure this game got canned. : carazy

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  Sniper for sure. : pigvomit
  • Scout/Medic/Engineer : lodit
• Demoman. : fleabug
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  Spy parce que j'adore le franc(edilla)ais. : Modica Sol Solis
  • Toi aussi? Ça alors! : ArtilleryMarker
• umm all of them? But if its anything like QWTF were then Scout, Sniper and Engineer were my favourites. : Arsenal
• I want to play engineer or HWguy but I'll probably play soldier so all you guys can call me a n00b. Same ... : Old_Fart
• Probably Pyro, then Soldier. Gonna start with the basics. : Vangoghs Ear
• I'm thinking Engineer or Heavy. : action wombmate
• will there be scripting so we can bind stuff to a single button? : Old_Fart
• Engineer, baby. : pwnage1232
• Engineer. : sgtsanity
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  Engineer. Sometimes spy and medic : Izanaki
  • My exact choices back in the day. Also enjoyed being a sniper depending on the map. : johnny nada
• Leathercop : Mansmells
• Demo man or Soldier. : Magus
• Wheres the Soldier love. The most versatile powerful awesomest class. : soggybagel
• Based on this thread I won't be playing on the shack server... I'd never get healed :< : aeg1x
• Random! : Orange Pylon
• Medic, support positions are a good way to learn the map : snagger
• Scout : vynn
• Pyro, I like fire. : locater16
• Judging by TFC, I'll be back and forth between Engineer and Soldier - or whatever specific class we need ... : Kniggit
• I'm thinking Soldier initially while I learn the maps. : Bonestormm
• Fanboy. : seven
• HW Guy : MONGOLOID
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  GREAT overview on classes here: http://www.totaltf2.com/classes.php : vynn
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    ROFL @ the Weakness list for the spy: Weaknesses: • Bad on Defense. • Useles... : Kniggit
    • the scout description is great too. lists ritalin as a weakness :P : seven
  • gifs? wtf : GloriousCow
• Soldier and sometimes Sniper, depending on whether the team needs offense/defense : dopeman
• Medic, always Medic : Frozen Pixel
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  Sniper and Scout are the only classes I'll end up playing for any length of time I'm sure. Medic can ... : InfoBiter
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    Medic won't be as strong by himself as he was in the original TF. He's very support oriented. : vynn
    • ugh what, he can't infect people anymore? That's crap. : Arsenal
• Soldier while I learn the maps. : Serpico74
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  Wait, wait, WHAT? the Scout can double jump?!? : Kniggit
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    and change direction in midair :) : vynn
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      I can see that being used to absolutely confound console players... charge them, jump right over them, as... : Kniggit
      • Can't wait to club people over the head with the aluminum bat : vynn
      • One of the best things with maps like 2fort with the scout used to be tossing the stun grenade at the wal... : Arsenal
      • It's a replacement for conc jumping . : chazums
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  While on the subject of classes, I ran across a pretty sweet wallpaper. http://www.flickr.com/photos/w... : vynn
  • Also a bunch more in the TF2 set. Great class specific ones. : vynn
• Engie! : DasCracky
• Sojer-buoy! Then either Pyro or Engineer. : AxeMan808
• Annoying Pyro, then Spy, then Medic : kramweil
• Scout, I love FPS games where player movement is a complex skill and your biggest advantage. : peanut-
• Sniper. No doubt in my mind. : Zips
• All of them? : Pneum0
• Scout scout scout scout scout scout! : finalthrill
• Engy & Medic : Shadowdane
• engineer... but I'll be rotating to demoman and scout as well. : Grumbeld
• who the hell plays just one? Not any good player. You gotta change it up depending on the map/enemy : Slowtreme
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  I pretty much exclusively play as Medic in any game that has that class. : freshyk
  • But I'll probably play as Pyro too. : freshyk
• Engineer and HW guy. : guido anchovy
• Definately the Spy : kbaxter1
• Soldier. Rox of Steel. : ImageOmega
• Demoman, because it is and always has been the best class. : Sexpansion Pack
• Scout, easily. : Amnesty_intl2
• engineer : Tommy Toolbag
• Engineer or Heavy, most likely- I loves me some big guns! : mn3m0n1c
• Engy and Soldier. I love the rocket launcher and building turrets : handofthrawn
• engi/medic/maybe pyro? : stgulik
• Druid, healing-tank-dps FTMFW : sesmaster
• Scout : rt702

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  People are going to laugh at you because you are old and creepy to them. Mostly creepy. : Rauol Duke
  • 26 isn't too creepy. Its the ones that are in their 40's that really stand out. : Tincan
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    Not unless he goes to community college, the age range is 18-50. : skitzo
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      Try 18-death. I'm at a CC and there are grannys. : NFXFSX
      • They are just their for the young cock. : skitzo
  • ^^He's creepy for a totally different set of reasons separate from the age. : Rauol Duke
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    I don't fucking care. I am past that. I am there to get an education, not worry what some shit head 19yr : pancake humper
    • haha yea, you'll show him : Mondo
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      Duke is (respectfully) full of crap. No one will care, CC or not : geedeck
      • I know. I just had to find a way to work the joke into the thread. : pancake humper
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        Apparently you don't understand the age dynamics of college, it's not like the classic "Back to School" w... : skitzo
        • While I've never seen anything like what you're over dramatizing, it is true that for the most part he'll... : MoreVespeneGas
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          lolol I am 26 not 40. I also shave my pubes off so lol to you on both counts! : pancake humper
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            I know your 26, if you were 40 I woulda changed "hey, your old enough to be my dad, why don't you go work... : skitzo
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              26-19=?? : duncandun
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                Look, I can't do math since I stopped going to college for the very reason i posted. :( : skitzo
                • I HAD MY BABY AT 7 MAURY! : devi| dog
      • I'm just poking a lil fun at our friend here. LEMME TUSSLE THAT HAIR KID! : Rauol Duke
• I didnt do it this way but i imagine that going into college with the determination that it sound like yo... : trevis
• Don't worry; first semester might be hard, but you'll get in the groove after that. Just stay on top of ... : Modulus
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  I did the straight-through thing until I finished my Bachelor's, took a few years off, and then tackled t... : buroja
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    I am at the point of planning to start a Masters program and it freaks me out that I haven't been in a cl... : riptyde
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      it'll come back to you, most of your fellow students will be just like you. : PapaBoo
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        incredibly handsome and quick with a joke? : riptyde
        • um ... maybe we're not talking about the same poster ?? : PapaBoo
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  Did you already sign up for classes? There's nothing really to worry about, I had like 3 40 year old peop... : Mondo
  • No, not yet. I want to get all my ducks in a row first. I need to think this out logically first and figu... : pancake humper
• I'm 34 and in two years i'll be going back to school to finish as well. I did the same thing. I went to s... : huds0n
• Congrats! You'll feel better once you get back into the swing of things. I know because I was off for a... : guido anchovy
• go ahead and fill out a FAFSA and apply for financial aid now if you want to start in January. You've go... : PapaBoo
• The average age of students in one of my courses is 24. I'd say it's more "normal" to take a year or two ... : aeg1x
• You poor bastard. : ThomW
• 99'?? gawd i feel old. : m0rfus
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  Yea, just keep truck'n forward. I was 24 when I started college. I'm glade, cause I respected my time the... : Jiven
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    Yo dude, I'm totally gladed right now : Mondo
    • bah :P : Jiven
• It's not going to be easy. The process is long. 1) Get your transcripts and send to the school you wa... : dudehoyt
• I've got a friend who's doing the exact same thing as you at age 28, so don't worry. I bet you'll do much... : owtwerd
• I had a 40 year old in my class who mostly kept to himself. He worked hard and did alright. Just make s... : handofthrawn
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  I just went back as a new freshman at 26. I did the straight to college thing after high school, got a B... : Thud
  • Who the hell can tell you are 26? I can't judge age within 4 years, I mean 18 sure you can tell, but 23-... : devi| dog
• You'll do fine. While they'll have a slight leg-up from being fresh out of high-school, it's far outweigh... : sgtsanity
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  Be prepared to write a lot of papers. A. Lot. Of. Papers. :( : silent77
  • Yeah, I think this is the thing I am not looking forward to :( : pancake humper
• I love school, my teacher is currently giving us candy! : laurgasms
• I need to do this. : voodooraze
• Yea, good luck. Seriously. I haven't been in school for 11 years or so and I'm starting my first class ... : knitemare
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  Dude, that's great! Good luck! If you need advice any anything specific let me know. I'm 32 and also w... : geneshifter
  • BTW, heck yeah I feel good about going back and finishing! The best advice i can give is to really give ... : geneshifter

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  Of note are that crits are rewarded to players doing well - not players performing poorly. Thus negati... : seven
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    that is absolutely a huge releif. Reading this has restored my faith in the depth of the game. It's gonna... : aeg1x
    • it was totally awesome reading - it really lays out a logical, well researched, creative and well tested ... : seven
  • That's the coolest thing i've ever heard about a FPS. Totally gives the player incentive to play well an... : Pneum0
• Sounds pretty awesome. I love all the comments about play balancing and making classes equally compellin... : MONGOLOID
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  I wonder how well they'll get the twitch aiming to translate to x360 : chazums
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    well - as everyone's using the same controller - it's an even playing field. So - it sort of works itself... : seven
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      Boy do I miss that pistol. The battle rifle is the only weapon in the series that is in that league of a... : Chris Remo
      • The pistol - especially in single player - was Halo's crowning achievement. God it was good. Taking... : seven
      • That's the one in the first game right? Because the assault rifle was total ass. : chazums
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  The team that's winning gets slightly faster respawn times and more forward respawn points, a positive re : Old_Fart
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    That happens in all team games. : chazums
    • not if the amount of time needed to finish a round is low. : Old_Fart
  • entirely possible. sore losers will always be sore losers - especially if they can't stall the inevita... : seven
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    Good riddance. I don't want those players in my game anyhow. : InfoBiter
    • Hahahaha. : d0gbert
  • Ugh, that sounds like a terrible design decision. :( : Arcanum
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    If they wanted mroe competition shouldn't they let the losing team respawn faster? But I guess they are s... : xtofuconsumerx
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      they are aiming to avoid stalemates because they are unsatisfying for everyone : aeg1x
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        Hmm I know it can be frustrating when games go back and forth but to me I love it, I love having to fight... : xtofuconsumerx
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          there is a time limit though. the games don't last forever : aeg1x
          • True. : xtofuconsumerx
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            I'd still count the necessity of giving the winning team artificial advantages as a significant design fl... : Arcanum
            • I think it works well in concert with their other mechanism which sounds like an adaptation of how arcade... : boring gegtik
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  Awesome read. Thanks for this. Can't wait to play it.. hope it performs as well with high ping as ETQW.... : Ravenkettle
  • Reykjavík - noone ever says Reykjavík in a song. : seven
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    Is there an Icelandic steam community? We should be able to get some local games going using that. : dael
    • No idea, if there isn't we can start it along with an IRC channel with a pickup bot. : Ravenkettle
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  "Playtesting showed that it was more fun to have the teams waiting as a group as soon as the doors open. ... : dael
  • The Waiting period in Dustbowl was fun. Defenders rushing around like nutters to get their SG's ready ... : Beady
• I find extremely cool and fantastic when developers put so much passion, art direction and artistic think... : Nitrium
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  They had me at Scouts double jump. : Grumbeld
  • well u have no conc grenades anymore.. i think it evens out alright : Shadowdane
• Oh fuck, they linked the fucking sniper dit charge to the ZOOM...sigh. : headless
• This seems like exactly the kind of design stuff that they DIDN'T do in QW:ET : Zeeliv

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  Steam community sounds like some kind of filthy sex club : CoRDS
  • Bathhouse Steam community. : Super Sparker
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    a couple of Christmas's ago the harley shop in the Melbourne CBD burnt down. Anyway they reported tha... : shavenewok
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      I bet you like to imagine that scene quite vividly : Turd Ferguson
      • lol : boring gegtik
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  Is the Steam store b0rked for everyone else? Half the time the pages are blank and if I refresh enough to... : nudel
  • I noticed some strange behavior when setting up my community details. The page wasn't refreshing and my a... : paroxym
• steam is completely fucked for me, the front page won't even load, i just wanna buy orange box! : snowwolf
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  It certainly looks great, but i don't like the fact that you talk to live people whilst dead in cs:s thou... : chazums
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    if it's a problem you could just play on servers without enemy spectating. I don't give much of a shit on... : aeg1x
    • The mini-map shows enemies when you're dead, which is more than enough. : chazums
  • eh... vent/teamspeak/cheating is prevalent enough that if you're worried about that sort of thing you may... : SenorSpine
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  If anyone needs an invite just paste your steam id page here, or join the chat room and one of us will ho... : liqker
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    http://steamcommunity.com/id/phumper : pancake humper
    • sent! : liqker
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      Also, don't laugh at my Peggle playtime :( : pancake humper
      • Mine says 14 hours but thats waay wrong. I only played for maybe 40 minutes last night :\ : liqker
      • That's OK, my steam rating is still currently 'Teh Suck'- haven't had much time to play lately! : mn3m0n1c
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    http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197961273727 (Why is mine a bunch of numbers?) : moogle
    • you can set your desired id in the account options : aeg1x
    • sent! : liqker
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    Ooh, can I get an invite? SteamID is mnemonik; Thanks! : mn3m0n1c
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      Wait- this is for the Shack Group, correct? : mn3m0n1c
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        yep, the private shack group : liqker
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          also, sent! : liqker
          • ...and accepted. Thanks again! : mn3m0n1c
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    http://steamcommunity.com/id/Audhum ! : Audhuml4
    • sent! : liqker
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    Cool. ID is geneshifter. : geneshifter
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      Link me your steam id profile, i can't find ya. : liqker
      • http://steamcommunity.com/id/geneshifter : geneshifter
      • sorry about that earlier. I must have quit out too fast. : geneshifter
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    http://steamcommunity.com/id/skinlab133/ : skinlab133
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      sent! : liqker
      • w00t I say. : skinlab133
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    http://steamcommunity.com/id/hoohaaa : logik?
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      i dub thee shacker : liqker
      • <3 Thanks! : logik?
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    http://steamcommunity.com/id/lodit : lodit
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      Totally digging your steam avatar -- sent! : liqker
      • Thanks. Starting September 17, people will die. : lodit
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      http://steamcommunity.com/id/shirif : shirif
      • Again, I misreply, please add nonetheless. : shirif
  • http://steamcommunity.com/id/poopstewart yesh plz : PoopStewart
  • http://steamcommunity.com/id/chuckiesmals : smalakar
  • http://steamcommunity.com/id/rockelf plzthxlol : rock elf
  • ^^ - PoopStewart, smalakar, and rock elf have been invited : liqker
  • Come on people, join up- The SA Goons group has over a hundred more members than we do! : mn3m0n1c
  • http://steamcommunity.com/id/andy is this is a new group or something? or is it the old one from the ... : oHnOES
  • http://steamcommunity.com/id/Liability : paroxym
  • http://steamcommunity.com/id/asylumn : asylumn
• jesus christ is it slow : oHnOES
• http://steamcommunity.com/id/prototype can ya hook a brotha up. : Prototype
• http://steamcommunity.com/id/gulik : stgulik

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  The engine has acceleration for the mouse built in - and it's got a low FOV. The accel is built in to ... : seven
  • Well the FOV I can deal with using a patch but this mouse is just moving so 'janky' and stuff - Like ALL ... : abrasion
  • it is my #1 complaint about the game : aeg1x
• Move the mouse around a bit right when it...lags, and it goes away. : Rice-Rocketeer
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  FOR FUCKS SAKE DUDE, GET A 360 : ) plz i want to play doom with you : CoRDS
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    Microsoft blew it with the late release of the Elite here and the reliability problems - they'll get my m... : abrasion
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      aww diddums. also lol : CoRDS
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        Dude, you know I want one bad, the shack does, half the internet does - this is Microsofts fault, not min... : abrasion
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          that sound like a challange dude. but i much prefer co-op doom. also JUST FUCKING BUY ONE DAMNIT D... : CoRDS
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            Nope, I'm not sinking money into unreliable hardware - be patient, I have been. : abrasion
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              dude i'm loving my elite. sooo many good games are coming out RIGHT NOW. best time to buy. : erotic sock
              • The games won't dissapear. lol : razlebol
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    A high end PC and a 360 are kinda redundant IMHO, plus, Skulltag! : Autocrawler
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      Nah I intend to have both for a breif while - eventually I'll let the PC phase out though. : abrasion
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        Well, your choice, I guess. It worked backwards for me though-I used my 360 for a while, and recently swi... : Autocrawler
        • I specifically didn't want a new PC but MS took so long to bring the Elite to Australia, I got sick of wa... : abrasion
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  I'm not convinced that it's the game/engine itself, at least not on its own. I played through the whole g... : nudel
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    As a PC gamer who lived through the days of shit mouse code in games (lithtec, epic engines long ago) I a... : abrasion
    • Agreed. Unreal engines have always felt off to me compared to the Quake branch (Q1 through Doom 3 and HL... : Horn
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    My work machine is a quad core 8800gtx macine with an mx518, on which i tried with a microsoft mouse too,... : imperator
    • The question is, will it be fixed at all? : abrasion
    • Changing the physical mouse wouldn't affect much if it was still using the same mouse drivers. I'm not... : nudel
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  Bought the game, its unplayable... mouse control is so broken. And i've tried on 3 machines now. : imperator
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    I like it, someone as harsh and whiny as me. In all seriousness it's not REAL bad but.. it's totally a... : abrasion
    • I'm sure i could play through it on easy while battling my mouse, but it's easily a big enough annoyance ... : imperator
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      Alt-tab works in Bioshock for you? You lucky, lucky bastard! I don't know if it's the game or DirectX1... : nudel
      • I didn't have trouble alt-tabbing in and out of it either, just press alt-enter before doing that to ente... : Autocrawler
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  I don't know, but I just beat it and I never felt comfortable with the mouse the entire time. The accele... : dopeman
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    Funny enough I just had the same thought - but I don't think you can buy the 360 Elite controller in a ca... : abrasion
    • Wouldn't a wired Elite be the same as the wired Core controller, except for the colour of the thing? Do y : nudel
• Try what Vynn suggested at http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=15024739#itemanchor_15024739 : cause&effect
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  We need a "buy abrasion a 360" fund. Where everyone chips in a few dollars to finally buy you a 360 becau... : Drewus
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    I could currently buy 73 Xbox 360 Elites for cash as we type this. That being said, the reason I have th : abrasion
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      You're an amusing little vignette. : boomstickah
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        boomstickah response to my posts. : abrasion
        • I'm jealous of you, I used to be as much a subject of his attentions as you. Now he has eyes only for you... : SpaecKow
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  I just noticed, even when I'm standing dead still in the game, if I move the mouse to look another direct... : abrasion
  • It's even creepier when you're standing in water and expecting to be ganked. Turning around and hearing w... : Drewus
  • It's not the first game, actually. Games with "full body awareness" have done that for quite some time-FE... : Autocrawler
  • The Darkness did this and did it very well (once you got used to it -- it was a little strange at first a... : nudel
• I played the demo with my 360 wireless gamepad. : razlebol
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  am I meant to lose shock when i get fire at the doctors labs? did i drop it into the wrong slot and ov : abrasion
  • Yep, you'll need to buy more plasmid slots at the upgrade machines. Any plasmids you've collected will st... : Drewus
  • you must have, but don't worry, you can get them back really soon, there are stations called "gene-banks" : snowwolf
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    fucking cunt i just got telekenesis and i clearly accidentally over-wrote my shock by clicking the wron... : abrasion
    • I did that several times. Be careful because if you use the buttons on the left then you don't have to *c... : nudel
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      it just goes in to your gene bank... you can swap it back if you find one : aeg1x
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        I just found a key I need but I'm new to using telekensinsinsisnsins so I found it through a smashed wind... : abrasion
        • I did exactly the same thing. Spent ages trying to get it but I couldn't even see it. My save was from a ... : nudel
• WTF is Bioshock and why does everyone mention it? : Super Sparker
• turn off windows' mouse smoothing or any other crazy shit some other mouse driver may have installed : ttyRazor
• lending you his copy violates the usage rights, its one copy per USER : multisync
• Set these values to false in your Bioshock.ini file found in the ...\Application Data\Bioshock folder. : speon
• Also, try the Boshock tweak guide at tweak3d. It goes through all the settings in the game. But the mo... : Silent Sorrow

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  customization through levels, unlockable weapons and addons. fast and fun multiplayer. you dont like anyt... : maulla
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    ^^What he said. I played for a couple hours tonight and loved it. The maps are well done, especially th... : stump
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      that's bar none the worst map out of the 3 : -=kodiak=-
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        And yet, my opinion is that I like it. : stump
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          I like that one the best. I hate the one that is outside with the houses and all the tall grass the most... : carazy
          • if you know the map and use your uavs to decent effect, snipers are just free kills; there's nowhere they... : Foxhawk
• It gives me the same fix that Counter-Strike does. Realistic setting with arcadey gameplay. That being sa... : SockMonkeh
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  You are bradsh. You cannot enjoy. You can only ask why you do not. : Morgin
  • puh. I like CS:S, Supcom, Bioshock, NFS:MW, R6:V, Gears of War, Crackdown, HL2/EP1, ETQW, ET, UT2K4, ever... : bradsh
• Are you any good? : Cygnus X-1
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  Controls on the console are only as bad as the player. : VegasX
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    I disagree. There are some console games that I can control fine with analog (Metriod, Halo, Bioshock, R... : pigvomit
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      i could control halo, R6:V, and gears without any problems but bioshock and this, not so much : bradsh
      • Same here. I had no problems with Gears once I practiced for just a little bit, but Bioshock kicks my ass... : Silent Sorrow
    • that's funny, cuz this beta has the EXACT same control scheme as CoD3 : -=kodiak=-
  • This is absolute horse shit. Take the best CS player vs the best Halo player. the PC player will always w... : Sgt_Boomstick
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  I didn't really like it much at first either but it definitely grows on you. Also I disagree on the cons... : Begawkiness
  • i thought it was pretty neat but the more i played it, the more i hated it. i'm still interested in the s... : pyide
• If halo is your standard you're blowing it. : DasCracky
• terrible controls? they felt really good to me : OrkO
• some of the most fluid console controls ive ever seen on an fps, the combat just feels right : klearlyunseen
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  i cant stand any fps game where the reticle grows to a humoungous size when you move..if it just stayed o... : agentlead
  • It's realistic man. Are you saying your reticle doesn't grow when YOU move? : Drewus
  • ಠ_ಠ : boring gegtik
  • Steady Aim perk is what you need :) : Neech
  • He likes games where you dont really have to worry about headshots or hitting a guy with one shot. He lik... : bozer
  • Friggin' signed! : geneshifter
• i'm not nuts about it either. the perks are a really good idea though but the rest of the game feels lik... : ^-SeaWolf-^
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  from everything I've been hearing about it I don't think I will enjoy it much. games that require you ... : MagicWishMonkey
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    games that require you to shoot someone 50 times to kill them are not for me. the *combat* always boils d : pancake humper
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      yesterday someone was comparing it to quake 3, maybe the comparison was wrong? i haven't played it yet... : MagicWishMonkey
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        It's about 2-4 bullets to take down a guy (unless it's a sniper). : guido anchovy
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          here is the thread my impressions were from, http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=15114865#itemanchor_1511... : MagicWishMonkey
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            That is pretty much not true at all. Those impressions are pretty far off. Not sure what he played. It's ... : pancake humper
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              ok i'll try and grab a beta key later then : MagicWishMonkey
              • going up in two hours at Gamespot. Make an account now if you don't have one. : pancake humper
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        That game is nothing like Quake 3... I dont know what that guy was talking about : bozer
        • ok this is starting to sound like my kind of game, maybe that guy was crazy. (here is the thread http://w... : MagicWishMonkey
  • not sure where you heard your impressions from but it definitely does not take very many hits to kill you... : c_man_tmt
• The controls are some of the better ones on consoles. Also what game types did you play? If you like CS... : c_man_tmt
• I hate console shooter controls, but it wasn't any worse than the rest. Now, what I'd really like is for... : guido anchovy
• This game is going to be awesome for long time COD fans, but maybe more of the same for random FPS player... : xtofuconsumerx
• I'm tellin you guys, play it for a week and it gets better. I felt the same at first : bozer
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  very fun; high polish, good controls, fun gameplay (fast with generally very deadly weapons), and great c... : Foxhawk
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    Agreed. The controls are just fine. I'm hoping they bump the level cap again tomorrow. : sigpro
    • that would be glorious : Foxhawk
  • very deadly weapons This is the only reason I'm excited about COD4. : Sexpansion Pack