Details on Hellgate: London Pre-Order Beta, $149.99 Lifetime Subscription

The lifetime subscription is tempting. I really want to play hardcore, but I know that if I do, I'll get hooked and end up playing it for years (and dumping tons of cash into it) like I did with Diablo2. Looking back, I definitely got 150 bucks worth of enjoyment out of d2...if not more. Considering there are $50 games that have barely kept my interest past the 20% point (bioshock, for instance), it's not a bad value.

I just can't let it slip...
$9.99 and 9.99 Euro? WTF?!
That's 40% more for Norwegian players than what US players have to pay...

Why can't everyone just pay in USD?

They can really just go and **** themselves.

Man I remember when I used to look forward to this game then it turned into something that just no longer appealed to me. *sigh*

Lol up till now I always had the impression this was a single player / multi player game, not a mmog with subscription etc.

I wish Blizzard had offered a pay-to-play subscription for Diablo 2, because I'd probably stil be playing it if I got a Diablo 2 + new, continuous content. I'm glad they're offering this. I couldn't give a shit about cooler-looking armor since I'm not 12, but new maps, monsters, and gear? Awesome.

I can't see them repackaging subscriber content for an expansion pack, because that would totally fuck their customers. People who play for a year and pay $100 over that time would get the same stuff as a dude who walks into Best Buy and pays $40 a year later? Talk about murdering customer loyalty.

Actually, the more I think about it, I'm going to spend $15 on Painkiller via Steam. I hope Hellgate does well, but I have a feeling I'm going to have a ton of fun with Painkiller.

right.. pay up front for a game we don't know much about, where it might go, and expanded for who knows how long ... with a subscription plan of uncertain terms.
*sigh*
I guess if you've got the $$ to blow for lifetime subscription it's no worries, but for regular folk they have yet to clarify what all you will get and should expect. Sure, more slots, cooler stuff; but really that's lame and we need more than that.. but what kind of new levels/maps/dungeons..

And really, What happens when you stop subscribing. they've said you can no longer access the subscriber-only content or your other extra slots; well what happens after you've played for a while, then decide not to pay anymore, but all your stuff is now subscriber gear. So you've got bags/inventory full of stuff you can't use that you'll just have to get rid of? I suppose that's the catch.
How exactly are non-subscribers supposed to interact/play-with subscribers ... how is that going to be fair? how is that ever fair? (see WoW:BC items vs WoW) how is that going affect monster difficulty if a non-subscriber joins up with a subscriber w/ elite gear?

Do you get to play any of the subscription stuff off-line? can you host your own servers? do you get to play with subscription stuff off-line after you've stopped subscribing?

I can't even tell what the hell is going on in all the gameplay videos, so i'm just supposed to trust that this game will be super cool like Diablo just because ex-Diablo guys worked on it?

blah blah blah *whine* i know

A lifetime sub for only $150 tells me the developer believes this game wont make it for very long. What do they expect to do for revenue a year from now?

Are they ever going to post System Specs on their Site?
I've heard rumors of an OS X port ala Diablo II and other blizzard games, but I haven't seen any confirmation on this...

Preorder bonuses make me not want to buy he game ever, because I don't buy games before reading reviews and if I want it later on, I know I won't get the bonuses.

This company makes me want to play thier game(s) less and less every time they made an announcement. They should have shut up right after they said they were making a game that's kind of like Diablo.

I was about to pre-order this from EA's Store thinking this was the digital distribution option (through EA-Link), but it doesn't appear to have anything to do with EA Link.

Anyone know if there will be a way to just download the game when it's released?

dont fall for the lifetime subscription trap. do month to month. cancel the months u dont play. If it gives u entertainment and is worth a month subscription then ur not getting ripped off. Lifetime subscription is just too risky.

I'll be wearing Silver armor

I'm actually going to sell some stuff I have so I can get this. Unbelieveable. Not thaty they're offering it, that I'd be willing to part with much to have it.

Go Flagship!

I just know in my heart this is going to be a turd sandwich, but I'll probably plop down $5 for the preorder to try the beta.

I was looking forward to play this game in Hardcore mode.... but I'm kinda pissed at the fact that I have to pay just like a mmorpg just for that.. I dont' really care about the extra content, especially at the beginning

Ah capitalism. The many ways in which you can make people feel less than the tops. First in life, now in games.

I really think this game will be sucky when it comes out. It seems like it has cool ideas and everything but I just don't think the "diablo2-esque" 3rd-person/1st-person was executed well.

I watched multiple videos and the gameplay just seems underwhelming. Some guns (specifically the laser type ones) sound, look, and "feel" so weak like they're water guns or something. I was most interested in the 3rd-person hack-and-slash movies because that's probably the route I was going to take but then I watched some videos and the combat seemed more hectic and random than Heretic 2 (which I loved ;x ).

I hope a demo comes out soon. Any beta testers or previewers that can chime in and correct my assumptions? I would love to hear from people that have actually played the game.

I don't think I will get this game because so many other great games are coming out. I am not sure their subscription service will be that popular, but they probably don't need that much of their player-base partaking to profit. Does that stuff really sound like it's worth 10 bucks a month? That translates to $120 for an expansion that you can only play with other subscribers. It also seems like they built-in inconveniences into the game experiences so they could justify charging people to take away those inconveniences. There is no way a game like this *needs* an extra subscription service, and they shouldn't punish regular players who are wise enough to save their cash.

I wish I didn't have to pay to not play my character ever again if he dies.


I want Hardcore mode for free