Evening Reading

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  Where in PA? If you're near both of them, does that mean you're in the Reading area? : StuMan1337
  • all aboard the Reading Mantrain : askedrelic
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    He's lying. He's close-ish. He's basically down by Strinestown, which is the last exit off 83 before yo... : ThomW
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      so by near you guys he mean in the same state : PapaBoo
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        Well, he's a lot closer to us than Pittsburgh or Erie -- we have to give him that. ;) : ThomW
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          Is there anyone out in Pittsburgh? It seems like everybody's east. : StuMan1337
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            Looking at http://shackers.gamewith.us/map/ it looks like there are five guys in the vicinity. newek wa : ThomW
            • Yeah, my folks own a home in Lebanon, PA. They live in Media now though. : newek
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            I'm here for school! I live in Harrisburg though. : h o s t i l e
            • Planning to come home the weekend of Oct 20 to do wash or anything? ;) : ThomW
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            I was in Pittsburgh from Aug '01 to June '07 (Undergrad + 2yrs employment at Univ. of Pitt). In Clevelan... : newek
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              You're going to miss out. ;) : ThomW
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                No way man, I think I'm going to drive out for this, it's during my fall break! : newek
                • Really? Awesome! I'll add you to the list. : ThomW
            • So you moved away just as I moved in. : StuMan1337
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      i guess that's... close. maybe : robbomc
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        You're out in Philly, right? Are you coming to the Hersheypark Shackmeet? : ThomW
        • He knows the highway there quite well. : drucifer
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          only if there are no highways of the aforementioned variety involved : robbomc
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            You just have to make sure korban doesn't slip anything into your drink, and stay away from him on the Ki... : ThomW
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              i thought YOU were gonna sit next to me on the Kissing Tower :( : Korban
              • I was just trying to scare him off so he wouldn't steal my seat. haha : ThomW
    • and 1.5 hours from me! : Korban
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      So about 1 hour or less from my job. Cool shiznit! Welcome to PA! : El Tigre
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        Where's your contract have you working now? : ThomW
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          I'm still in Wilmington DE. : El Tigre
          • p.s. hey riptyde, how ya do... oh shit, I forgot my wallet. BRB! : El Tigre
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  I live near El Tigre... but 83 is not close to us : flagg209
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    psst SHACKMEET : ThomW
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      We set a date for it right? I gotta get it on my google calendar so me and Bella don't forget about it : El Tigre
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        Do you even read this web site anymore? ;) I've been shilling the heck out of it so people get it on t... : ThomW
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          dude I can barely get on... network nazis at work suck my ball sack. When I get home i'm tired and chilli... : El Tigre
          • I'm just bustin' your balls. You're a busy guy -- I know it. :) : ThomW
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          If it wasn't a 3.5 hour drive I'd be there. : StuMan1337
          • lol dude, I'm thinking about coming with a 5 hour drive. quit whining : askedrelic
• Stranglehold just came out. btw do you have GRAW2 for 360? If so we need to get some shackbattles going, ... : Magus

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  I don't know why anyone turns off V-sync, it is well worth the couple of FPS drop. : node
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    If the game correctly double/triple buffers there will be NO FPS drop. : batkiwi
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      Oh, even more so then. Guess my knowledge is a few years out of date on that front. :) : node
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        double tripple buffering can give you visual lag equivalent to 30-40ms though, which is why most online ... : imperator
        • Yep. Acceptable in games like WoW. Not in games like, ET:QW. : royalally
    • Double buffering and triple buffering are different. Everything does double buffering. A double buffere : Arcanum
  • Buffering = delay. Yes I can feel it. Especially if you have an LCD with output delay added to it. It's s... : TrptJim
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  The 'silverfish' effect of an LCD is really bad, it reminds me of waking up in the morning with gunk in m... : abrasion
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    That's what IPS panels are for, they have the best viewing angle and basically no silvering. : SpaecKow
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      It's really annoying, I have the Dell 2407 - HC I thought it was IPS :/ : abrasion
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        Fuck fuck, I had 4 hours sleep yesterday so I was hoping that was what's causing it. Alas, I fired up Ob... : abrasion
        • Nope, I don't think there even is such a thing as a 24" IPS panel. And now they have fuken lotteries on t... : SpaecKow
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        No, the 2407-HC is a new mva panel (samsung). The only consumer 1900x1200 IPS panel that I know if is ... : johnny rotten
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          Everything I've seen says it's a Samsung-made S-PVA panel, same as the 2407WFP, but with an improved bac... : mn3m0n1c
          • Rumour has it that panel is in some Dells. : abrasion
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    I have no idea what the silverfish effect is, and I kinda don't want to since it's something I am apparen... : DOOManiac
    • heh, me either. : Colleton
    • The blacks look shimmery / cloudy in the corners - even the shack does it on an LCD. : abrasion
• Probably because LCDs are always set to 60Hz by default while if you've just been using a CRT you were pr... : DinK
• I'd love to game on a widescreen LCD but I just can't. I've been playing for so long on CRTs that I've b... : Rotten Deadite
• i like it except dealing with native resolutions etc. i cant run w/ the highest settings at 1650x whateve... : mankeroo
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  what? you're on crack : MoNsTeR
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    Errr no? It tears horrendously, unlike my CRT did. : abrasion
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      you just never noticed it because your eyes were bleeding from flicker : cpt_gloval
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        120hz. : abrasion
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          yeah sounds like a bit of crack consumption is going on, good luck getting a LCD to refresh at 120hz, the... : cpt_gloval
          • I mean the CRT was 120hz - the LCD tearing is fixed now anyhow - vsync. : abrasion
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      Yeah, totally on crack. With VSync off I get between 50 and 200fps in WoW depending on what's on scree... : MoNsTeR
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        I don't bloody know :/ it just does - it was tearing really really bad in MOH:AA (the old one) - my video... : abrasion
        • i noticed pretty significant tearing in quakewars until i turned vsync on. : flasher 907
• ive never even noticed anything different with my LCD. : virus
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  You get used to it. When I got my 24" after never owning a LCD before I thought I would have to bring it ... : Mustang|
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    PLEASE help with this http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=15105769 What can I do? I've moved it close... : abrasion
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      sounds like backlight bleeding... have you calibrated the monitor? might try exchanging it for another... : cpt_gloval
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        Nah on a pure black screen there is no bleeding at all, it's just that light from the corners is at a fun... : abrasion
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          is the monitor angled tilted correctly for your viewing position? if you viewing angle is weird at the co... : cpt_gloval
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            yes how far is your head from your monitor? Try sitting back farther and seeing if the 'shimmering' abat... : johnny rotten
            • You are correct, I tried last night and moved it away and it helped a little tiny bit - but what's the po... : abrasion
          • I sit about 1 -> 2' from the 24" - it's directly in front and at the right height :/ : abrasion
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      hmm i honestly havent noticed that and i have the same lcd. is it all visible in hl2:e1, bioshock or qua... : smacknca
      • I'll try some other games over the upcoming days, if I turn the lamp on in Oblivion it's fine but that's ... : abrasion
    • I have a samsung 226BW and don't have this issue, though I haven't played Oblivion in ages. Maybe take... : Mustang|
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      Your 2407-HC is an S-PVA panel made by Samsung- what you're seeing are artifacts caused by a poorly imple... : mn3m0n1c
      • i heard you could simply reduce the color brightness in the monitor's control panel to reduce the oversho... : cpt_gloval
      • Yes, you can improve it somewhat by reducing contrast and calibrating the monitor- here's a quote from X- : mn3m0n1c
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        I should note that I'm not saying the 2407WFP-HC's a bad monitor- on the contrary, there aren't many bett : mn3m0n1c
        • Thanks for the technical response - I appreciate it but I'm kinda stuck - I know I'm a picky idiot but it... : abrasion
• What make and model did you get? I ask this because I'm in the market for buying a new gaming monitor:... : Maddog_Delphi97
• Depends on the framerate now doesn't it? Logically if you see tearing than enabling vysnc shouldn't slow ... : avatar_58
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  How do you see if v-sync is on or off? : pun][sher
  • For most games, it's in the video or graphics options somewhere. You can usually 'force' it on in your gr... : mn3m0n1c
  • If it's off, on the 2407 in MOH AA with an 8800 GTS, you can't not notice it's off - terrrrible. : abrasion

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  Urgh..I don't want Orange Box though...I just want TF2, Ep2, and Portal. I already have HL2 and all that... : EvilDolemite
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    $45 is a god damn good deal. : manero
    • It really is, I can't resist. Beta in less than a week woo hoo!! It mentions giving away the extra gam... : helvetica
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    Then don't buy it..... : stump
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      Planning on doing that now. Was hoping they wouldn't screw over their prior customers but it sure looks l... : yemeth
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        How was Episode 1 buggy? it worked just fine me. : ColoradoCNC
        • It crashed fairly frequently for me, especially that one scene where Alyx is sniping and you assault the ... : yemeth
      • How was Lost Coast hyped as anything other than a one-level tech demo? : Deathlove
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        You're a genius. Lost Coast was hyped as a TECH DEMO. Not a game. That there was stuff to shoot at all... : grendel
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          All I heard before was that the "Lost Coast" would flesh out the chapter I liked best about Half Life 2 (... : yemeth
          • well either you can't read or someone trolled you really good, because all it ever claimed to be was an H... : deject
    • I was just hoping to buy the three games individually for a bit less than Orange Box, but obviously if Or... : EvilDolemite
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    Wait so I have to repurchase HL2 and Episode 1 now as well? Even if I already have it loaded in Steam? Th... : bozer
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      If you buy the orange box, yeah. But you can hand the spare games off to your friends if you like. : Orange Pylon
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        I didn't get any gift code or anything. It just asked if I wanted to install HL2 and Ep. 1 (they are alra... : freshyk
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          Valve did say that you can hand the spares off to friends, in both retail and Steam. I don't know how to ... : Orange Pylon
          • Yeah, I'm hoping they'll tell us how to do that soon. I don't have anyone to give it to since I don't ass... : freshyk
          • Man, I will buy this as soon as I can figure out how to hand it off to my other account. Seriously. : Rice-Rocketeer
    • Makes perfect sense. They know that people will bitch about it (like me) but still pay just to get into t... : ColoradoCNC
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      Think about it more like this, it's three $20 products and they're throwing HL1 and EP1 in. If you can h... : FushigiDenki
      • Yeah, even if I valued Portal to be $10 I'm still paying $5 less than what I am willing to pay. : freshyk
  • I was expecting just those three to be $50 by themselves, so the orange box is still looking pretty tasty... : sgtsanity
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    you get 5 games for the price of 3. If they said $45 for tf2, ep2, and pOrtal, would you buy it? That's... : AllYourBase
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      does anyone NOT want TF2? I'll buy your gift :( for $35 I never bought/played HL2, don't want it. Don'... : Slowtreme
      • OH THERE IS IT. I searched Teamfortress on steam, I can pay 29.99 for TF2. but I probably won't get beta ... : Slowtreme
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    YOU ARE GETTING TF2 AND PORTAL AND EPISODE 2 FOR $45 WHY ARE YOU COMPLAINING?!!!!1 : glio1337
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      I'm not really. I've always been one to defend against people bitching about Valve's bundles. I think i : EvilDolemite
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        Because the value of the 3 primary products is GREATER than that sub-$45 price you so desire, so that was... : FushigiDenki
        • I'm not angry; just cheap. : EvilDolemite
    • And hey- free Peggle Extreme! (I don't even know what that is, lol!) : mn3m0n1c
• and i'm spent. : Slowtreme
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  In the price breakdown it shows Ep. 2 and TF2 to be $50 each. Damn. : freshyk
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    And it includes Peggle Extreme! lol : freshyk
    • OHHh spit ninjas. : royalally
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    what? wasn't Ep1 like $20? : edgewise
    • Yah, I picked it up for $7 on sale! : Merconium
    • Ok, that was just a typo then. It's been fixed. Before it showed Ep2 and TF2 for $50 each and portal didn... : freshyk
• I already own hl2, but that's too tempting to pass up. I could be playing TF2 next week! : thekidd
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  if im forced to purchase hl2 again as part of this bundle, what incentive do i have not to just create a ... : marku5
  • i think you can give away games to people from your main account. : manero
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    Check out the gift box at the bottom: http://www.steampowered.com/v/index.php?area=package&SubId=469&cc=U... : CapnChaos
    • Ahah! Thank you, good sirs. : marku5
  • there's someone that hasn't played HL2??? : jigstah
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  Detailed Breakdown - http://www.steampowered.com/v/index.php?area=package&SubId=469&cc=US : Crw22
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    That price breakdown is so silly, Portals and Episode 2 are not 50$ games. : ripper9
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      good thing it says they are $20 and $30 then, eh? : mikecyb
      • he means combined and he's right. : Mad Brahmin Disease
  • You save $154.80! LOLz : Frank_Mackey
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  Is that the big announcement? : notd665
  • nope. its the medium announcement : finalthrill
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    If so, it's a kinda of a let down. $45 for all three seems like a fair deal, but why don't they have a se : zehh
    • Because the three games are worth $60 and that's what they're selling them for. : FushigiDenki
    • What they were hyping is that you can play TF2 early, not the package/price. : Zeeliv
  • you would think we'd learn by now... : jigstah
• Now where's the engineer video! I must always be waiting for something. : thekidd
• You save $154.80! I'd buy it anyway! : pieman
• UGH. I need a new computer to play (all I have is a Macbook) and I'm not ready to spend 800+ on a compute... : Yanks
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  But when can you preload? :( : aggressor
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    right now. Once you've bought, go into your game list and you'll see the games. Right click them view the... : deveus1
    • I guess people who have the coupon from buying an ATI X2900XT can't preload it :( : aggressor
• Ugh. Steam couldn't process my purchase since its overloaded. Lame. : finalthrill
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  Gordon Freeman looks 20 years older in that picture. : romulan
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    He looks more and more like the Gman every day. : pieman
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      omg spoilers! : CapnChaos
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        Gordon Freeman : manero
        • my mind is blown how did I not see these things : CapnChaos
    • I was thinking the same thing. : liqker
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    i'm supposed to believe Alex is attracted to that goober geeky mother fucker? but then again, he single h... : graceofdragons
    • I thought she was a lesbian... : walker270
    • Some woman aren't superficial, but have you seen her dad? It's like the dudes who go for the fatties bec... : romulan
• So I can expect to pay $80 for ep2, tf2, and portal? god, screw that -- I'll wait. I'm also not purch... : thief
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  TF2 PRELOADING It's worth my cash for this alone : deveus1
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    Already?! : FushigiDenki
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      http://www.crimsondot.net/pics/tf2.jpg : deveus1
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        an epic, epic day. : Foxhawk
        • srsly... i never thought the day would come. : manero
      • hahah im at 28.6 % :D : AlexXdude
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    How big is it? Just gone from a 20mbit connection to 1mbit :( fucking uni : hardfl1p
    • I'm at 44%, and the bandwidth monitor says I got 322MB so far... : mn3m0n1c
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  was this there news for today? the one i was supposed to not plan a vacation until i heard? : graceofdragons
  • I guess if you want to spend your vacation time playing the TF2 beta then it's a big announcement. : freshyk
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  Also apparently the engineer video is at steam://run/987 but I can't confirm it. : manero
  • um i dont see it.... : Shadowdane
  • no, that just goes to the list of videos : bakanoodle
• DONE. Thank you! : trOmblyj
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  Wait, isn't there a package of just Ep2, portal, and TF2? : Modulus
  • Isn't that what "The Black Box" was supposed to be? where is it? : bakanoodle
  • I thought there was... I could have sworn they announced that a while ago : bozer
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    apparently not, and that's the big surprise for the day! You get fucked! don't get me wrong, $44.95 is... : edgewise
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      Well, what would you expect the price of TF2, Portals and Episode 2 to be by itself? 45$ is a great deal ... : ripper9
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        Oh he wanted them all for $30. : FushigiDenki
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          irrelevant. I now know that all 5 are worth $45. Why isn't the option to buy just the 3 I don't have for ... : edgewise
          • Because it's not worth it to Valve to sell them for less. : FushigiDenki
    • Playing TF2 early is the deal maker for me.. : romulan
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      TF2, Portal, Episode 2, for $45. I'd say it's more like they're giving you HL2 and EP2 for free than any... : FushigiDenki
      • That's what it seems like to me, but if Valve gets burned by the public for it they'll probably never do ... : qwpeoriu
    • yeah. I'm a bit disappointed that I'm going to buy HL2/ep1 again. I guess I could consider it "HL + ep1" ... : hirez
    • yeah, I'm not happy about that at all. Just let me save ten bucks if I own the other two. : Mad Brahmin Disease
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    There isn't one now but there may be one in the future. But it all depends on how you look at the pricing... : freshyk
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      problem is, I don't know how much gameplay is in Ep 2 or portal. For all I know portal could only be a f... : Modulus
      • Yeah, it certainly varies from person to person. :/ Hopefully they release something that caters to those... : freshyk
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        i agree, looks i'l be sitting this one out unless you can get TF2 only : plat2on1
        • I might buy it. $45 bucks isn't that bad. I can probably give the HL2/ep1 code to my brother. I am wo : Modulus
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        So sell your gift tokens for HL2 and Ep1 for $15? I swear to God people get worked up so fucking easily. : pancake humper
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          What amazes me more is how people are confusing marketing for reality, their price breakdown page is not ... : FushigiDenki
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            People are complaining they already have the games, big deal. You got $50 worth of fun from Half-Life 2 r : pancake humper
            • Good for you, TF2 has a value of $0 for me I don't want it. : Chod
• .. but there's WoW World in Conflict next week. :/ : walker270
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  so has valved confirmed that they will no longer be doing a bundle that consists of just TF2, EP2, and po... : xil-reno
  • There was plenty of speculation about the pricing, but nobody at Valve ever said anything about it- even ... : mn3m0n1c
  • black box was canceled : FushigiDenki
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  Bought. So i can give away hl2 and ep1... i'll make one of those stupid competitions on the Shack for e... : romulan
  • Numbers between 1 and a billion? : alias
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    So how exactly do i give these away? I assume i need a product id code.. : romulan
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      Found it. You'll receive gift links in your games list when the orange box officially launches. http:... : romulan
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        Cool, thanks for finding that. : freshyk
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          I am to please! : romulan
          • am -> aim : romulan
      • Also, someone who allready has the game cannot receive one of these gifts. : romulan
• You had me at nothing, Valve. : pwnage1232
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  ATTN Patch-E : I caved. lol : ThomW
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    :( me too : Korban
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      Why aren't you ever on IM anymore? :P : ThomW
      • the connection at work is way flakey, so it keeps logging in and then logging out. then when i get home,... : Korban
  • haha owned, I need to get in on this too. truly they should be offering the black box with beta incent... : Patch-e
• So the path to truth and peace would be to buy this now and gamefly the 360 version for achievements and ... : Jenings
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  So yeah, Valve is basically forcing people to buy a bundle with perceived savings, but most people are st... : ovrlrd
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    i think i missed the part where the forced you to buy it : manero
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      I didn't mean forced in that sense, I meant as in if you want to play episode 2, tf2, and portal you are ... : ovrlrd
      • We're still quite a ways from Launch, I bet they'll make a Episode 2/TF2/Portal package closer to launch. : deject
• Oh man, purchased. Can't wait to play TF2 on Monday! : suqur
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  Does this work with the 360 release as well? : neblix
  • Doubt it, how would they let you play TF2 early? I don't think Valve would want to bother working out a d... : ovrlrd
  • Nope, that version is $60, steamless, and no beta. : FushigiDenki
  • no, just Wii : dael
• Peggle Extreme is kinda fun! : ImageOmega
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  I still can't believe people are complaining about the Orange Box. Think of it as 50 dollars for TF2, P0r... : feek
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    I think most people are complaining because they have been expecting TF2 and Portal to be a free bonus wi... : ovrlrd
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      30 dollars for all that?? How could you expect that at all? WTF. And individually priced I think you're p... : feek
      • I'm not trying to say you expect that, yourself, but how could anyone expect that. : feek
  • Yeah, people are pretty fucking dumb and will complain about something that isn't actually anything even ... : pancake humper
• Sweet, now I get to play through Ep1 without having to purchase it separately. High 5. : DrZettl
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  lol exchange rate. �‚£26, good buy. : hardfl1p
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    Dont forget they add VAT and some other charge, also my credit card company charged me an 'overseas' char... : pieman
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      Hmm. Well I checked my bank statement for the id superpack, I was charged $73.97 for it via Paypal, got i... : hardfl1p
      • I got a visa, maybe cause I dont pay off my full bill though. I cant remember exactly how much it was but... : pieman
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  That sounds like a good deal, considering I still haven't played EP1 I may jump on this. : ieGod
  • EP1 was really good. : trOmblyj
• My plan (was hopefully) to get TF2 and Episode 2 and Portal on the PC... get the full orange box on the 3... : bozer
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  Definitely picking this up once I get paid later this week... : Magus
  • yep I get paid of the 14th.. so gonna pre-order this even though I already have HL2 & EP1. I can't be... : Shadowdane
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  Hilariously enough, the Fortress Forever team was going to release on September 17th too. Talk about bein... : sgtsanity
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    Thank god they took grenades out of TF2. That shit is fucking retarded. It makes the game way less fun fo... : Zeeliv
    • There is a balancing act to be sure. The fun to be had once you become proficient beats everything else ... : alias
    • Counter-Strike became so much more popular than TFC because it's so much easier. Anybody that's played an... : rock elf
  • lol yah FF won't last.. Im sure at release there will be a semi-decent amount of people playing it. I... : Shadowdane
  • I think that's ridiculousness is what is going to keep people coming. I personally enjoy that type of gam... : TrptJim
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    This is why they should have had incremental public releases from day 1. They would already have a decen... : Begawkiness
    • yah i never understood why they did a closed beta for almost one fucking year! lol wtf : Shadowdane
  • Too late.. They should do it for UT3 instead. : razlebol
• unffffffffffffffffffffff : deject
• Too bad the Orange Box stuff isn't included with the Valve Complete package (yet, anyways). :( : RevRaven
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  TF2 "beta" just three weeks before the official launch date? Hum... : Nitrium
  • Valve seem to fix things pretty quickly. I'm not worried. : hardfl1p
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    I'm sure it's just a way to word it so that they're not breaking their agreement with EA. : ThomW
    • thats what i was thinking too. also this way the can cash in on preorders over steam and not upset the us... : Hoax
    • The game is an online game, so it's going to get tons of updates either way, them calling it a beta is de... : ovrlrd
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  How the gift thing will work: http://support.steampowered.com/cgi-bin/steampowered.cfg/php/enduser/std : sgtsanity
  • owned: http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=15104287#itemanchor_15104287 : romulan
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    Kind of silly I think. Because if I give someone HL2 as a gift, then when they want to buy more episodes ... : bozer
    • and they can turn around gift those keys to someone else, in the hopes that the next person will want to ... : qwpeoriu
    • so, not so silly from Valve's perspective after all, really : suqur
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  This is just a bad idea. It will have record sales, but it will breed resentment. People are excited fo : Cottc Cid
  • Well if TF2 is going to be played for hours on end it really doesnt matter : bozer
  • For me, Episode 2, TF2 and Portal are all worth $20 on their own. : deject
  • what's with everyone expecting free shit!!! Your basically getting 3 games for $45, that is $15 per game... : Shadowdane
  • 6 Maps is fine for me. Counter-strike is worth my money and I only seem to play the same 3 maps every tim... : deveus1
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    its a sub-par game. thank you for proving my point : oHnOES
    • orange box that is : oHnOES
  • Real men only need one map: 2fort : liqker
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    Selling your gift may result in having your steam account disabled. : romulan
    • valve and their mob tactics : spaceless
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      lol what? They are gift codes to give to people, you can certainly sell them. : pancake humper
      • May I Buy, Sell or Trade gift subscriptions? No. This violates the Steam Subscriber Agreement and may : romulan
  • Micro games, are you kidding? I suppose Counterstrike is a microgame? I was willing to pay up to $40 just... : Slowtreme
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  here's how I see the pricing HL2: own it EP1: don't want it EP2: dont want it TF2:45 Portal:dont w... : mista mista
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    but Episode 1 was kick ass, and I'm betting 2 will also kick ass. : deject
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      from what i've read you gays say about ep1 I didn't want to buy it. So i'm not looking forward to ep2 or ... : mista mista
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        If we told you receiving a blow job wasn't all that great would you turn one down? : romulan
        • if ep1 gave all you guys blowjobs i'll buy 2! otherwise what the hell kind of question is that? : mista mista
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        what is it that we said that caused you to not want it? : carnivore
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          That ep 1 was like HL2. Some pitch dark part(which reminded me of doom) I didn't like HL2 that much. I... : mista mista
          • The reason I liked HL1 so much was because of the badass story and interactions with characters. Hl2 had : deject
          • Oh, pfft. That part was short. But awesome. : Rice-Rocketeer
          • yeah, i could see how Doom would really make any pitch dark sequence kind of annoying. That being said... : carnivore
  • you didn't like HL2? because EP1 is more of the same goodness, but condensed! : suqur
• Well I bought the Orange Box and am pre-loading TF2 now, despite the fact that I already own HL2 and Ep1.... : Begawkiness
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  some gift me EP1 please :( : anthonybean
  • Can't until Orange Box release, Oct 9 : trOmblyj
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    I'm wondering: Who here doesn't own HL2 or EP1? : romulan
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      I don't own HL2 (well I do now, thanks to Orange Box) because when it came out, I had a roommate. He had ... : ConfusedUs
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        you can gift it to me. I only have hl2 and never got around to ep1 : epit
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          I will likely gift Ep1 to someone here on the Shack come the 9th. I have no use for it. : ConfusedUs
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            From what I understand, you get two "invites" to the Orange Box Gift program. That means you can actua... : Rice-Rocketeer
            • uh, no. You get a Gift code for whatever you already own in your Steam account. If you don't have Episo... : deject
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      I own HL2, but not EP1 : Zero|DPX
      • Same, keep holding off because of OB : Ebu
    • Ive never even seen HL2 in real life. Just that demo video before it came out. : Squirrely
    • me. in fact i've never played either : Mr.SEX
• At least it is a pc betas. I have been struggling with COD 4 beta on 360, I need my pc controls. : xtofuconsumerx
• Lame, I was hoping we'd be playing today. preordering now... : Noobler
• It's going to be a long week now until next Monday :( : AlexXdude
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  Any word on what the system requirements are for TF2 and Portal? It should be safe to assume that I can ... : Prozium
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    All the sysreqs are posted on our Storefront pages. Minimum: 1.7 GHz Processor, 512MB RAM, DirectXĂ�â€... : locash
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      DirectX�‚® 9 level Graphics Card...could they be any more fucking vague. : skinlab133
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        What card do you have? : locash
        • 7800GS and I have no clue how it'll run it. I do plan on upgrading when the next line of Nvidia's come ou... : skinlab133
    • Is it any more intensive that DoD: Source? Like if I can run that at high 16x10 will I be able to run TF2... : h o s t i l e
• oh shit the wife leaves town that day. new TV + TF2 + no complaining! : bozer
• Done and done. FUCK YEAH : Vangoghs Ear
• I can't wait. I want my Team Fortress 2!! : Maddog_Delphi97
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  Just an FYI, the full pre-load for me is 1,168.3 MB. : deject
  • Yeah, my TF2 preload was around that too. Can't wait until next week. : AlexXdude
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  Reading the info on the 'gifts' you can't sell HL2 or HL2 Ep1 to friends / ebay - you must give it away :... : abrasion
  • I had some kind of counterstrike gift for ages, and now it's disapeared? :/ : abrasion
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    Just don't get caught? : romulan
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      I don't intend to ;) P.S Why haven't my gifts appeared and why did one of my CS ones disapear? : abrasion
      • The gifts show up when the OB is officially released, i think i read oct 9th somewhere in the thread. Yo... : romulan
• Purchased! Can't wait!! : helvetica
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  I like how the big Click for Details! button doesn't do a goddamned thing unless you have Steam installed... : MoNsTeR
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    ah so that's why it doesn't work at work. : skinlab133
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      Wouldn't work for me at home either, I don't have any Steam products. Pretty stupid limitation to put on... : MoNsTeR
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        Not if you have Steam : graceofdragons
        • Not terribly inclined to install it just to see the terms of their pre-order deal... : MoNsTeR
      • Thats why it's not web marketing, it's a "news" popup you get in steam. If you go to the main site http:/... : ovrlrd
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  Bought! I have to hide the credit card bill from my gf :P : razlebol
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    Oh grow a pair. : trOmblyj
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      She is holding them! Actually it is just because we have lots of stuff to buy for the baby in the next... : razlebol
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        Better hurry and play all the TF2 you can then before it's too late. : AlexXdude
        • I might as well just stop sleeping. At least I will have 6 months off to take care of the kid and play wh... : razlebol
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  BOUGHT! Pre-loading my stuffs now! : ieGod
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    This is dangerous though because I see myself buying CS:S just to round it out now too. Uh oh. : ieGod
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      Trust me when I tell you not to buy CS:S. Do not buy CS:S. : AlexXdude
      • Oh I know. The only reason I stopped playing at 1.6 or whatever it was at was because I went off to schoo... : ieGod
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    Stuff(s)? I can only preload TF2. The other two won't let me. : avatar_58
    • Same here, can't Pre-load Portal or Ep2 : AlexXdude
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  So basically they've made it so even if you have HL2, EP1, etc that it's still cheaper to buy it all agai... : Fred Garvin
  • That's what I'm trying to figure out. : skinlab133
  • yes, which is going to put a lot of free copies of HL2 out there, bringing more customers to steam : Draugluin
• next monday should be fun. : deviantpaul
• Now that's just great, of course purchasing works fine but when I try to load up Steam now it freezes the... : Mad Brahmin Disease
• Just purchased. Oh god, between TF2 beta and Hellgate:London beta, I am going to be busy. : pancake humper
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  Does anyone have any idea if there will be another TF2 + EP2 bundle or is this it? I definitely want TF2 ... : skinlab133
  • NM I found the sub-thread in this that discusses it. : skinlab133
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  Anybody know when this deal will end? Does it last up until the day before release? : famine101
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    Valve's pre-orders deals always last until the release date. Lots of time to get the discount. : Tincan
    • cool, thanks : famine101
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  Anyone having troubles getting it to pre-load? I purchased via STEAM with a credit card pretty much imme... : finalthrill
  • Yep, I get the same shit. Did the purchase as soon as it was announced. : Tripps
• Done and done!! We need a shack clan! : warcrow
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  Anyone else order this afternoon and not get conformation, but steam tells you that you've already purcha... : liqker
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    i ordered with Amex and got an email immediately. TF2 is pre-loaded and ready to go. : cltcprd
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      When was that? I put my order in around 1pm EST : liqker
      • I'm having the same problems. I used AMEX right at 1pm. I just checked my charges online with AMEX webs... : finalthrill
      • around 3pm PDT. : cltcprd
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  Any chance I could get an invite to the Shack Steam Community Group? I'm ConfusedUs. Go figure! : ConfusedUs
  • Same! Audhum : Audhuml4
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  The absolute best part about having TF2 preloaded is poking through the GCF file listening to the taunts ... : Helter Skelter
  • Ahgggh, do not tempt me- I don't have GCFScape installed on this machine (yet)! I'm trying not to spoil a : mn3m0n1c
• i envy you guys i could buy that shit, but then i have no friends to play with :( sucks to be in th... : doomed
• Done and done. : moz
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  One thing that just crossed my mind, will TF2 have bots? : freshyk
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    http://www.planetfortress.com/tf2/gameinfo/bots.shtml According to this, it will. : Maddog_Delphi97
    • Thank God! It'll be easier to get my friends to buy it. We can do 4 of us vs. Bots over LAN. : dmason
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      I think that info is incredibly old. The commander role was for the old version of TF2. : freshyk
      • Well, we'll find out for sure next monday if it has bots. It seems like a definite possibility. : Maddog_Delphi97
    • lol that hasn't been updated since they announced it. : pancake humper
• GOOD CALL! PURCHAS'D : kainen1