Who Wants To Divorce A Millionaire?

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i stopped reading this thread around #70, but |hawkeye| if age is a number does that include 6 or even 3? I know thats just being silly, I know a few 15 year olds who are much more mature/intelligent then a lot of people twice their age.

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when the days seem to fall through you, just let them go

ps hey freshview! you stole my lyric thingy! lol

Anon@user-2iveapu.dialup.mindspring.com:

LMAO. Okay man. I was having a SHITTY day. But you made a really funny and ignorant post.

\"How come nobody has the guts to call black people \"black trash\"? How come its only kosher to denigrate whites because of their race?\"

Almost a logical as the kid who stood up in my History class many years past and asked why WHITE history wasn\'t taught. LOL

OK, after dealing with the Real World for a while, I\'ll put up my definitive post here.

Hawkeye, empirical evidence does not support your claims as far as the hypothetical situations go. A mental retard at the age of 35 is not going to magically develop into a genius at 36 (barring a Flowers For Algernon style experience. The evidence simply DOES NOT EXIST to support such a claim. Saying someone\'s intellect stops developing is not the same thing as saying that someone can no longer learn. Of course you can learn. It\'s just that your thought processes are now fixed a certain way, and you won\'t think differently. If you think outside the box, then you always will, if you don\'t then you never will.

This is Maturity (Definition 3, I believe), the definition that discusses being developmentally complete. There is another definition, which discusses developmental completness, and the characteristics thereof. That is the definition sCary is going by \"I\'ve seen a 17 year old who\'s more mature than a 40 year old\", yes, this is possible, but by the time the 17 year old turns 40, they will be far more mature than they were at 17, while the 63 year old is going to remain exactly as mature as he or she was at 40. This is statistically proven fact. Our argument is simply that the 17 year old is not at the same place in life as the 33 year old to be able to make these kinds of decisions, and whether the 33 year old is Moby or Ole Dirty Bastard, the chances are vey good that the 17 year old will be hurt in the end, one way or the other. She simply isn\'t done growing up yet, while the 33 year old is. Now hawkeye, you can dispute this, but I\'d ask you to show some hard, empirical evidence. Most studies I\'ve seen support the idea that one stops maturing mentally at a certain age range. They are then \"an adult\", per the dictionary definition. I\'m sure you won\'t see this tonight, and I doubt anyone will see it at all, but I read the rest of the thread and I felt that I had to have my last 2 cents. I don\'t really think this argument can go any further without some sort of hard evidence for either side (I know I haven\'t provided this either, aside from the dictionary definitions).

Anwyay, that\'s all I think I have to say about that, until evidence shows up.

No problem Steve... Thanks for the clarification...It was kinda lengthy

Here\'s the link, it\'s to a letter that someone wrote Stile,(again, take everything associated with Stile like you do with The Register, with a grain of salt,) but the interesting part is the story The Dalai Lama and the Master of Kung Fu. at the end of the letter:
http://www.stileproject.com/kung-fu.txt

As usual Jay let\'s it go completely over his head... ;)

Fox, WB, and UPN = television networks for white trash.

I saw an interview with the *cough* bride *cough* where she said she was a \"good Christian girl\" who could only get married \"in a church.\"

Which begs the question:

What the hell were you doing on a show called \"Who wants to marry a Multi-Millionaire,\" strutting your stuff in a bikini?

Now, Darva Conger is playing the \"victim\" card; how \'90\'s can you get? Don\'t cry for Darva, though: I\'m sure the book deal and TV movie will keep her from clipping coupons for quite a while.

Rick Rockwell? Hell, you can\'t buy that sort of publicity.

PS - Darva Conger is not a Gulf War \"vet.\" The unit she was a part of never shipped out.

How about a 32 year old and a 17 year old?

I mean, if she was cute and all.

Another request for shack 2.0: A FAQ on what YOU as webmaster want from US as readers/posters relating to the comments section. I wouldn\'t have bothered with a cut n paste had I known some of the guidelines set forth are just to be censored...

Getting to be like Ars where the posters can\'t even post about guns anymore without having a topic locked up.

No but I just was censored on a related issue. Probaly rightly so, being a tad long and not directly related. Oh well, I\'ll move my eyes and ideas elsewhere...

Wisdom or maturity, intelligence or experience, the point we \"elder\" people are trying to make that at 25 or so you will realize that at 17 *I* and my id/ego were just a pea in respect to cognitive ability to grasp what *I* now know at 25. This isn\'t saying that one 25 year old is more mature than the next 17-year old, but as you increase in age you will begin to \"see-the-light\" as it were. You\'re outlook on life will be so wider and less narrow as if you were 17... You will realize the decisions you made at 17 were not the most responsible.

Those of us that are older do not see it as age discrimination, but simply \"awareness\" and a sort of awakening. We\'re also glad the church of Scientology didn\'t nab us while we were wee lads.

This is a good thing. As children or as young adults there is a natural reason we are less mature. Curiosity assists us in education. By being unbound by the laws of maturity we are physically able to get more mental acuity and feedback in order to eventually attain that level of responsibility that is nessesary to operate on a non-defunct level when it\'s required.

peace, time to install the 4 n 1\'s and pray Wheel of Time likes \'em...

I should have added one more da and na, in case you deliverance fans are picky....

\"nothing can replace experience in life\"

thats what I\'ve been arguing the entire time. =)

experience is not directly linked to living X number of years.

a guy livning at home with his parents may still be as mature as he was in high school. a 17 year old girl who get out and experiences what life has to offer can be mature enough to be considered an adult.

Holy shit stileproject changes lives... that fire video makes me want to go rafting in the tennessee outback with three of my buds....

Banjo playin\'
\" da da da da da da da da da...\"
Guitah\' playin\'
na na na na na na na na na...\"

ASDKFJKALDSJFKSLADJFKADSLJFLKADSFJAKLSDF

I have to leave now, so here\'s my argument without points of dispute:

If you agree to my 2 statements:

A 17 year old has absolutely NOT reached her potential maturity. She is guaranteed to mature more over the next 10 years or so.

and

A 35 year old has reached their potential intellectual maturity. They will not develop more mentally over the rest of their lives.

then:

The 35 year old is in a relatively constant state and the 17 year old is in a relatively variable state. Because the 17 year old is in a variable state, she is pretty much guaranteed to think quite differently at say 30 than she does now. Therefore, allowing her to enter a relationship with someone who should know better (the 35 year old) if you are still in \"control\" of her as a parent, is irresponsible. The two people may match up now for some reason or another, but you have to realize that the 17 year old\'s thinking is going to fly around a lot before it settles, most likely in a different place.

From there it should be pretty evident that the relationship is a bad idea. If I could help it as a parent, I would prevent a daughter from doing something that I knew was a bad (and potentially damaging) choice.

* Q E D \' E D *

lock a person in a box for 35 years, barely keeping them alive. their brain would not develop. bring them out when they are 36. they would have the mental capacity of a newborn. can\'t talk, can\'t interact with people at all. let this shut-in interact with the environment now. they will develop new skills over time. yes, this person will be fucked up, but soon, he may learn to moan for his food or recognize faces..etc. his brain can still develop after 35...thats all i\'m saying. the brain doesnt shut down after 35...yes, its harder to learn at a later age, and children have a natural gift for language and such, but people can mentally develop at ANY age.

\"you can\'t teach an old dog new tricks\" has been proven false time and time again.

#157, we are saying this isn\'t] possible.

if you find even one example of this happening, bring it back with you.

I really am leaving this time.

Until later!

hawkeye, the argument ends now by necessity (I have to go).

a) Ensure all your terms are defined (get defintions from real sources
b) Come back again with real arguments based on the true definitions of the terms we are using, I\'ll need more than \"I don\'t agree with that definition\".

This has been interesting, l8r all.

what if the retarded man learns to read at age 36? what if he wakes up and understands the concept of compassion and love one morning? these things are possible. so, at 35, he was NOT fully mature. end of story.

Fuck 148, JUST LISTEN

I am NOT saying \"relatively mature\", which would mean if they act like a retard or a distinguished gentleman

I AM asking if a 35 year old has achieved their potential intellectual maturity. The answer is yes, according to developmental psych. If you don\'t agree, you\'re wrong.

we are arguing different things here...this isn\'t fun or productive any more. feel free to continue thouhg. i\'ll stick around if you guys want.

Here is maturity, Intelligence, and wisdom all rolled into one clear and concise diagram of a video:
http://www.stileproject.com/pic/?page=vid.html&file=/video/porn3.mpg&back=http://www.stileproject.com

Hawkeye Said:
is a 35 five year old man with down\'s syndrome living in his parents basement intellectually mature? not in my eyes. he can\'t read, he doesnt understand complex emotions, and he can\'t take care of himself. he is a legal adult, with the mind of a preschooler. i would refer to him as an \"adult\" strictly in the legal sense.

hes the exception that shatters your definitions. there are many other exceptions.

no, he\'s the rule that shatters your mis-definition of mature!

1)Having reached full natural growth or development:

If all he will ever be is a man with a 5 year old mentality, worldview, and intelligence, then.

B[YES]B

he is MATURE.

this is PRECISELY the point dshowcase has been trying to make this ENTIRE TIME.