Quake Wars to Contain In-Game Ads

I decided I won't buy a game (like this) with in game advertising awhile ago.

However, if Valve said tomorrow that HL2 Ep2 will have advertisements and they said it will because they want to make more money, I'd be cool with that. Not because it is HL2 Ep2 but because of truth.

Just say "WE WANT MORE MONEY" please. Is that too hard?

As long as the ads are unobtrusive, I fail to see a reason for the huge stink over them.

I play a game to have fun and as long as no one is pinning me down forcing me to stare at a wall, explaining to me just why I HAVE to buy Brand X's new eye scraper.. well, i just don't care.

Bad excuse about the quality/quantum of new content relying on ads. The industry has survived so far without. If you make a good game you will sell enough copies. If you make a crappy game you will have to make money som other way. If they just admitted it was all about money instead of some lame excuse. Personally I coulnd't care less about ads. If the right one hit's me at the rigt time I might actually buy something. Allways loved ID, bought ALL their games. Lost a little respect here. Be honest damnit. Everyone want's the game industry to make money so we can have great games.

This advertisement-fascism is becoming a problem, and the worst part is the youth of today already bought into this nonsense and fully support it...the ignorant fooles.

Not buying it because of these fascist-marketing ideas.

You fucking cunts, thanks a lot for supporting this stupid trend. Pretty soon every game is going to have ingame ads, wasting our bandwidth providiing data on how long we looked at the stupid things.

I'd rather pay you $40 for an expansion pack than see shit like this go on so you can continually "support" the game. Shove the ads up your stupid asses.

I for one, couldn't care less.
I have yet to even notice the ingame ads in bf2142 (are there any at all?).

and what about Forza 2, haven't seen so many ads in a game since forever and yet no one speaks a word

Why is this a big deal?

Games aren't cheap to make, and everyone keeps harping on about PC games not selling well etc..
They have to make money somehow, and id rather it be this way than the Hellgate method of paying for extra content.

The bitching about it is getting boring.

Looking over Massive's website, which is what ET:QW will be using. It says that they can make the developer and additional 2 dolllars per unit sold. Wow so they sold out for an extra two bucks.

Welp. Not buying this game either. Developers need to find better ways of making ends meet. Bastardizing your game with tons of in-game ads is an insult to the fans. We are dishing out a nice chunk of change for the game, we want to play it, not sit there so we can be marketed to. It detracts from game, and is a big turn off to fans. Instead, try:

Ads in-between map loads. I could deal with that. However, don't do something stupid like, show ad, then load map. Figure out how to do them both at the same time so that the gamer doesn't feel as though you're delaying their fun just to watch your stupid ad.

Subscription model. Keep this competitive. Allow people to run their own servers, and don't charge the server operators fees to be a registered server or any other such retardedness. Server operators are doing you a favor. Charge players a monthly fee that is comparable to MMOs. MMOs run their own servers and provide a lot of customer support. So you should charge less than your average MMO.

Hahaha bring on the links to the anti-bf2142 posts! lol.

I'd say the game is a million times more realistic and immersive if you're blowing up a gas truck labeled "Shell Oil" instead of one labeled "Joe's Gas".

I find generic names goofy. We're trying to make games more like movies anyway. So I'd say that product placement is inevitable and makes sense.

Still gonna buy it. Its Splash Damage and id again and its gonna rock!

Someone please buy the game, track down that subnet so I can route-deny them locally.

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I can see the future of gaming...

Normal game - $50, game ads.

Collector's edition - DVD + no game ads....$80 :)

"For the last four years, we've put all of our effort into making Enemy Territory: QUAKE Wars."

I think this is more likely the reason for the ingame ads. From the looks of it this game's production has probably taken 1.5 years longer than was accounted for, so they might be walking away with a very narrow margin.

Why is it a big story when ETQW has advertising but not when Crackdown, RB6 Vegas, Splinter Cell, etc do? I'd guarantee that most of the people complaining here have bought a game in the past year that contains advertising.

Urge to buy..decreasing.. Modern ads in modern games sort of makes sense, but modern ads in games that take place hundreds of years in the future don't.

Here's an idea for a compromise...

How about making the ads optional and the people who allow the ads get the upcoming content. Patches are free to everyone but if you want the new levels, guns, etc. you let the ads in the game.

Yeah I know it would never fly but it's an idea to see if their statement is valid.

I wish they had fucking told us that from the beginning so i could have ignored all the hype about it rather than hoping they wouldn't once again FUCK THE GAMERS IN THE ASS and expect us to PAY for the fucking anal rape.
When they pay me to watch their fucking insidious fucking advertising i'll play the game. What the fuck is wrong with dev houses these days anyway; fucking cocksuckers.

I am so happy they are not hiding it. As long as you tell me before, I can make an informed decision. I will not be picking up this game.

The sad part is, I know they could do this reasonably well, but they won't.

"Reasonably well" means taking the brand/product they're hawking and adapt it to actually fit into a future world. "AXE - The Strogg Chicks Love It", "Join the US Marines and fight the Strogg Hordes!" - those would be an acceptable form of advertising to me.

But no, they'll stick a picture of the 2008 Dodge Caravan on a wall.

I did not buy 2142 because of supposid ads, which all my friends who play it say are non-existant... BUT I will buy this game. Its freaking QuakeWorld damnit! These guys could bend me over and anally rape me with advertisements and I would beg for more. Sigh.

It would be awesome to see a Shack ad in there.

we livei n a world of Blade Runner now. The ads are everywhere, bigger and unavoidable. When will we start wiping our asses on ads when going to the bathroom at a public place? I can see it now, "Ohhhh gotta save this square toliet paper it has a 10% off on all cds DVDs and video games at Best Buy"

Having ads on a truck or inside a newspaper isn't bad (like real life). It would suck if it's on loading screens or base walls. I'm confidend Splash Damages does a good job.

advertising in:

television
print magazins
news papers
post box
email box
websites
sport arenas
on buildings
on vehicles
on humans
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now in games?!

i hate advertising. i buying and pay money for a game and my brain get raped by ads from several companys. now this sucks really. i dont think i want buy any product of em, my brain remeber at this negativ feeling and i dont told/advise my friends, employees etc. to buy this product.

i dont understand why the gaming community nothing do against it. you love it? you maybe grown up in a world of ads? its seems so. brain washed.

Oh well...I had been deciding if I should pick up this or Frontlines: Fuel of War. That decision has now been made for me. If it turns out that Frontlines will have ads, then I'm not buying either one. Sooner or later they'll learn. I didn't by BF2142 and I'm not going to ever buy any game that sports ads unless I benefit. Give me cheaper prices, free mmo play (ex. Anarchy Online), or leave the ads out.

I also don't care for the patronizing comments regarding "ongoing maintenance and content updates to the game" FPS games have been providing shit like that for years. Don't tell us that now you need ads to support patches, maps, etc....it's insulting.

...and now a note to gamers: If you really don't care about the ads, pick it up. I'm sure it's going to be a solid game. However, if you don't like the ads. For fuck's sake don't buy. They love it when the community bitches then hands over their money like lemmings.

Games that has ads should be alot cheaper if you ask me.

I'd bitch and moan about this, but everyone else has already said everything I had to say.

I'll probably buy it anyway, but yes I am now honestly looking forward to the game less because Splash Damage (and id for letting them get away with it) has now shown they're not as concerned about making the game as good as it can be, but are instead more concerned about squeezing all the cash they can out of the brand.

If they do it well and looks like they belong there I wont have a problem with it, I mean I didnt have a problem with the AXE ads in GRAW and GRAW2, the whole monitoring how long I'm looking at it thing though? that seems a bit too much, is that going to effect the performance of the game?

Awfully curious how the comments on the ETQW site are only supportive. But elsewhere the critics are all I see.

What next? Maybe it could be like tv where you get an annoying animation promoting some lame tv show crawling obtrusively along the bottom of the screen. Or imagine having a big 'EA Trax' logo embedded in the lower right corner of your monitor? Great.

Like someone else suggested, I'd rather PAY for an expansion rather than be bombarded by obtrusive in-game ads which are supposed to support the developers ability to continue adding content.

Advertising in games isn't as controversial as everyone is making it out to be. In fact, it can be good as long as it stays in the game world and doesn't spill out into the startup splash screens, menus and other places we interact with the game. As buggy and problematic as 2142 is, if in-game advertising will allot additional money for updating the software and getting the game running solidly and smoothly, I'm all for it. And if it also earns 2142 players some new content (like the free maps Battlefield 2 somehow gets) then it is even better.

That said, Blizzard manages to implement advertising into it's Battle.net in-game browser for games like WarCraft III and StarCraft (and you can bet StarCraft II will feature the same advertising setup) without making it a pain. I can fire up B.net, pick a channel and get in line for a game and I'm never annoyed by pop-ups that block the whole screen and talking ads trying to gimmick me into an iPod. Sure, these ads are apart of the aforementioned game menus, but they are not problematic to my gaming experience.

You can not forget that most news aggregators have to fund their websites with advertising but that doesn't stop you from visiting them. What about servers that most PC gamers play on for free? These services have to come from somewhere and few and far between are the individuals with the motivation (and the pocket book) to make these things happen. Remember that these things are not free and that advertising helps make them possible.

Furthermore, you don't have to pay attention to advertisements and that is to say that I don't see a bunch of gaming guys running to their local convenience store to buy a pack of tampons or a new washing machine (and I know if you watch TV you've seen a tampon or washing machine commercial). Also, what about when your friend buys something and you see it only to judge it so cool you want to buy your own? It could be said that your friend has the same affect an advertisement has on you even though your friend is not an animated .gif or flash file that blinks and boasts about a product.

Thus far nobody has had to endure characters that appear in Nike shoes and Sean Jean tall t-shirts and other forms of branding/advertising without accepting the endorsement in the first place (e.g. the 50 Cent video game or any of the NFL, NBA, FIFA-esque sports games). In fact, most people who play the EA line of sports games are subjected to music advertising every game where new and popular artists and their music are featured in an in-game soundtrack. You don't buy Madden for the music, you buy it because you want to smash your friends all the way to the Super Bowl.

So let the advertisements roll. Just don't over-do it guys... 30 minute time slots usually feature less than 20 minutes of TV; It would be a shame to see games go the same way.

Well, this just slipped a ways down on my priority list. Ads combined with beta keys exclusively from Fileplanet have moved it well down on my buy list this year. I WAS going to buy it first day but now I'll wait and see whether or not it lives up to the hype before I even consider buying it.

it was a blind buy for me until now because ive played the first game for free,enjoyed it for most part and knew that id/splashdamage games are halfway "bug free" unlike the clusterfuck battlefield series. i give it to them that unlike most developers the hand out an open beta and a demo prerelease so i can see how bad its going to be but overall i'm really disappointed and consider skipping this one depending how bad its going to be.
i also feel like a fool for lobbying friends to buy it with me at release with arguments like "hey and its without fucking ads and stuff".

I think most people can understand that ads in games can be done without being too intrusive. We're just scared of what the support of games with ads in them may bring. We don't know how far they will push advertisement in games, so why shouldn't we be concerned?

It is funny that games like GTA have to create fake advertisments, fake cars, fake stores and restaurants. I bet people would complain if the fake "Pizza Shack" was replaced with the real "Pizza Hut".

jesus fucking christ. i'll play the beta, but i don't think i don't see myself buying the game now. they should have the option to display ads, atleast. i'll take no extra content and no ads.

-1 customer

The photoshop here is great: http://www.joystiq.com/2007/06/19/quake-wars-to-have-in-game-ads/