Evening Reading

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  It's not like we're going to throw it out once you've spent 4 hours on it champ. Hang tough! : geedeck
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    But it's like dicking a hot chick and then going to work at your 9 to 5 desk job all day while she stays ... : TastyWheat
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      But she's tweaking her makeup and making sure her boobies don't fall off when you're having your way with... : thaperfectdrug
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        Women wear makeup? : TastyWheat
        • Its not just for guys anymore : thaperfectdrug
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      How do you think we've felt tooling around with this hot chick and haven't been able to tell anyone? :) ... : geedeck
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        the « reply button was very notably missing and i use it all the time :( i don't want to have to... : electroly
        • Yeah I love that little guy. I use it almost exclusively to reply to posts. : TastyWheat
      • I think something feels off about the margins of the comments section. I also think that the top bar or m... : Modica Sol Solis
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        a/z navigation! : ThomW
        • This is essential! Also thom will have to rewrite all of his scripts so please pay him : kgargonmagrix79
        • This is a MUST, mousing down through the replies is painful. : Hiro
        • This is already on the to do list. : Degenerate
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        I DO. I reckon ThomW should also incorporate some gamewith.us stuff. ALSO Keep it called Latest Chatty! A... : TastyWheat
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          what do you mean PSN tag? : wtf242
          • Playstation Network tag. : crummynz
        • I'm imagining some amazing integration with gamewith.us. It'd be more than greasemonkey would be capable... : spazzium
        • Yes: Gamewith.US integration, and shacktags somewhere in the reply box. : zohar79
      • Keyboard shortcuts for writing posts that work in Firefox 3.0, especially if you can get them to also wor... : sgtsanity
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        I was confused about collapse. It looked like every post had the collapse button, but you could only coll... : qwpeoriu
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          I could collapse subthreads fine... you had to mouse over the node of the tree you wanted to collapse and... : aeg1x
          • Subthreads still don't collapse for me either. Puuuuup! (you know how that sounds like poop if you say it... : geedeck
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        MESSAGE POPUP : Ebu
        • ^^^^^ : yosemiteclimber
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          you talking about shackmsg popup? i think i forgot that : wtf242
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            no, message popup = hover over the #1234 post number to the left of the reply and the full post magically... : electroly
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              You don't really need that now that you can just click a post and POOF it opens up right there. : omnova
              • not the same, not as fast, not as hottt : bradsh
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            No, 'mouse-over/hover popup'. That thing which used to work (and was awesome) but has been broken for a ... : Nixx2004
            • It works now (thanks to Greasemonkey) : Ebu
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          Absolutely no need now with the inline display of the posts seemingly instantaneously. : TroZ
          • hovering is still enough faster to make it a neeeeeed : Ebu
        • I agree. We need message popup. If it's not feasible for you guys to do it, I hope that ThomW will update... : zohar79
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        I would like an edit button and avatars, maybe a ranking system by post count. Oh, and signatures! : SockMonkeh
        • Don't even joke about that shit. :( : Arcanum
      • Post preview would be nice, but more importantly, keyboard shortcuts for tags (like the alt post form). : crummynz
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        yes, it was very hard not to tell. gee, how about a +inf suggestion thread? get all the whining/yaying et... : Frozen Pixel
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          We have an unofficial rule not to +inf our own posts :\ I hate to break that : geedeck
          • yeah, I know, but ubers and steve/maarten don't have to follow that rule. :/ : Frozen Pixel
          • Hi. I'm with the mod police. I'd like to ask you a few questions regarding a alleged self-inf that occure... : zakk
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        the ad banner at the top of the page is really ugly and seems out of place. chat thread functionality was... : feek
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          I agree. ad at the top seems really tacky and out of place, it feels like an afterthought, instead of bei... : bradsh
          • Yeah, by itself. If anything, it should also be blown away by Mercury. I like my shack logo right up the ... : TastyWheat
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        simple css change - all comments should be in comic sans : mallrice
        • and Yakety Sax should play everytime you view a sexninja post : TastyWheat
        • Greasemonkey to the rescue! http://lmnopc.com/greasemonkey/0-6-0/haiku_just_barfed.user.js : ThomW
      • I'd love to see a tag button. Put a new icon next to the "shackmsg this person" or on the right hand side... : Flynn
      • While I think the comment system overhaul is nice (where are the post numbers?) I dislike the new ad plac... : Vantage
      • black background on main =[ : lord cecil
      • Digg buttons... for real. I think having those for the frontpage articles would help the site a lot. ... : MikkleThePickle
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        how bout a collapse/expand link on each thread branch :) : cpt_gloval
        • those were there... you had to mouse over the node for them to become visible: http://files.eatpolys.c... : aeg1x
        • Yep, that's already done... it's hawt! : edlin
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        So long as the alt post form remains it's all good. : timmie
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          Then it is all bad, because that is gone. Everyone posts things the same way now. : haiku
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            <EmoVader>Nooooooooooooooooo!</EmoVader> : timmie
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              http://omnova.net/files/images/shack2_3.png It looks great to me. The only reason I like alt-post is s... : nyranger66
              • Yeah, just saw that it did that. I guess that's an acceptable alternative ;) : timmie
              • Also you can keep the post window up while clicking through other posts. Makes it so much easier to prope... : qwpeoriu
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                my only complaint is you don't get the preview text like you do with alt-post. : aeg1x
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                  More incentive to actually learn how to tag shit properly. : brickmatt
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                    The alt-postform also has keyboard shortcuts for the various tags, which is pretty handy. Preview text, t... : Helter Skelter
                    • If they incorporated the keyboard shortcuts, that would be nice. : DM7
              • Aw, man, that's what I missed by fucking sleeping!? *cuts off eyelids* : woddemandred
          • Yeah, the loss of it isn't *too* bad since the reply pops up right under the post. Except now I can't ... : Rice-Rocketeer
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            Will we get keyboard shortcuts for shacktags like the alt post form/ : crummynz
            • I can't really say, because that isn't a design thing. Up to development on that one. : haiku
          • that's one way to solve the cut+paste bug : qwpeoriu
          • motherfuck. : dopeman
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        I have several suggestions: - Please re-think the color scheme. Its hard on the eyes. - Please find... : DOOManiac
        • - Please re-think the color scheme. Its hard on the eyes. Lols, aye-aye captain! : brickmatt
      • I didn't play with commenting much, but when I did post I didn't see anywhere to add tags (colors/text st... : sparkly
      • Can there be a built in white/blue colour scheme for the comments for when I am at work please. : marmite
      • When I would click a post, and it would open the little grey window, it didnt center that post in the win... : Rauol Duke
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        What's the consensus on letting the community tag posts? I would think it would be helpful. : zohar79
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          Except you get nuked for tagging posts these days... :P : SilverSnake
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            since when? I thought it just went out of style. : Slowtreme
            • No, saying "Tagged" as a way of bookmarking a post will get you a nuke and automatic 30 minute ban. : zohar79
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            I don't mean bookmarking, I mean tagging for classification. Adding tags like LOL, NWS, house buying, law... : zohar79
            • Anybody in the know have an idea on this? : zohar79
      • I missed A/Z nav, Alt-post form preview, quick reply links on each comment (it's now two steps vs 1) : suqur
      • I like it just the way it is. : voodooraze
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        Are nuked posts coming back : boring gegtik
        • I'm guessing Mods and select others will be able to see them via some secret filter page. Nuked comments ... : zohar79
      • I haven't seen the new site. Does it store settings in the account now rather than a cookie? What about d... : xelencin
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        CTRL-ENTER : Jayx77
        • ok the alt post form has failed me for the last time CRTL-ENTER A/Z navigation comment preview (the : Jayx77
      • I'd love a search filter, something that will allow me to search for/within intresting or nws tagged post... : forktaileddevil
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  The more you make me read about how you miss it, the less time I* have to perfect my Internet creation AA : tomservo
  • That's ok, I'm not really a cereal : TastyWheat
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    Not really a developer? developers developers developers! : sgtsanity
    • You logged out of googlechat before I could show you my newest beauty: http://geocities.yahoo.com/ : tomservo
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  So you get the new site design, you love it at first, then you find faults with it. Eventually you just ... : Zips
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    Two words champ. Collapse. Button. : TastyWheat
    • Fucking FINALLY. : tomservo
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      And monster threads that you can actually load. and a thread refresh button! : GloriousCow
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        I just click the thread number link to the left of the poster's name. : basketofkittens
        • but then it pulls the thread to its own page... fuck that shit : aeg1x
    • I agree, that was damn nice. I'm not knocking the new design, not by any means. Just saying what the cy... : Zips
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  what's laryn.x? : Bantis
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    The future, Bantis. The future. : AlexXdude
    • Okay, but what is it? : Yoshifumi
    • You can take yer ga'damn future and you shove it up yer lily livered tuckus, buster! You heard me! < : PlanetPerfecto
• Lols, still loving it. : brickmatt
• I missed it altogether :( : ColoradoCNC
• it should be getsyou.chicks : CoRDS
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  can someone link me to the original post announcing it or whatever : mXENO
  • http://www.shacknews.com/ja.zz?id=14562587 : RikiTiki2
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  what's the ETA on this? : mXENO
  • Steve said they're looking at weeks, not months. : dmason
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    0.015 DNF. : aethyr
    • Hahaha. This should be made into some sort of official measure.. : pillzer
    • ERR: DIV BY ZERO : sgtsanity
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      But 0.015*infinity is infinity.... : Arcanum
      • Is it really infinity if it never comes out? : fluffy64
• OLDE AND BUSTED. No, really like this place is coming apart at the seams and fixing ja.zz isn't an option... : geedeck
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  We should have a "soft opening" (why yes I did see Ocean's Thirteen this weekend, it was ok). Say account... : Jonathan
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    Oh shit I just realised I passed 15,000 posts today : TastyWheat
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      i'm over 12k now jeez : Jayx77
      • Christ, I hit 20,000 in less than 500 posts.... : Arcanum
  • Shit, I need to add 300 odd posts to make it! : thaperfectdrug
  • Sweet, I'd be IN! : Slowtreme
  • Let's do it. : NFXFSX
  • How about 5.5 years and 1500 posts? 'cuz i am not a chatty kinda guy... : Enkidu

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  It doesn't really tie together for alot of the first book but I think it's worth it if you have the patie... : boring gegtik
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    I think what's really grating on me is this huge focus on magic and the arcane. I've grown so tired of th : Modica Sol Solis
    • it reminds me of The Death Gate Cycle in that the very nature of sorcery is actually complex and its disc... : boring gegtik
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      Well, the series is definitely high fantasy. It has a much larger, epic scope than any other series I've... : Vantage
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        I guess I'll keep reading it, but I hope it improves soon. What I'd really like to see is a series tha... : Modica Sol Solis
        • you will get your wish there. : stgulik
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      haha traditional? i don't see how there's anything traditional about the series. : lakren
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        yeah I don't get that one either, magic in the malazan world is downright weird : Gauss
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          From my limited experience, magic is treated as something reserved to a select few and generally distrust... : Modica Sol Solis
          • It's an extremely magic-rich world, with magic ranging from subtle to flashy. Flashy is just what you se... : Arcanum
          • you need to keep reading :P : Gauss
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  Gardens is such a tough read. It's painful, but the books do get better. I still think SOIAF is a much be... : wtf242
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    5 is my least favourite I think.. it was too weak on the awesomeness scale compared to the other books : boring gegtik
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      some of the characters seem interesting... just not a lot happens.. it's very slow paced. with the previo... : wtf242
      • It was a bit like Gardens for me. Started slow, but the characters you meet a bit later in the book are ... : Vantage
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  I felt exactly the same way you do. I almost gave up about 150 pages in actually since it was such tough... : Vantage
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    Seriously NONE of the people who rave about the series had fun with their first time through those first ... : Vantage
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      Well, I'm wondering if it's a character driven series (SoIaF) or if it's a world driven series (LotR). If... : Modica Sol Solis
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        It is very much both. I'd say it combines the dark, gritty, realistic characterizations of SoIaF with th... : Vantage
        • Vantage and I don't see eye-to-eye on a couple of books, but this analysis is good. : brickmatt
      • I would say it is more of a world driven series as opposed to a character driven series. IMO it peaked... : Torgo
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        It's much much more world driven imo. Most of the characters, especially in the 1st couple books are just... : wtf242
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          Yeah, it is definately the Dragonball Z of fantasy series, especially the latest book. I would agree t... : Torgo
          • it's definitely not the dragonball fantasy series.. i can't stand when people make this comparison, it's ... : lakren
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            Hahaha. WUT. DBZ of Fantasy series!?! Are you kidding me? : Rice-Rocketeer
            • I think he means in the sense of MY POWERLEVEL IS 80000 RUAAAHHHHHH : boring gegtik
          • The latest? Reaper's? Nah, not really. I think he's found a balance that works. : brickmatt
        • I'm not sure if we're reading the same series. :| : Rice-Rocketeer
      • More world driven, although honestly there are some characters and groups of characters I came to really ... : yAak
    • Yup. The first time I read the first 100 pages of Gardens of the Moon, I was like: "WTF IS GOING ON." ... : Rice-Rocketeer
• The first book is a major, and I mean major, pita to start. It really gets interesting in the last two ch... : Visceral Monkey
• I'm about 3/4 of the way into it right now and I'm enjoying it. I completely agree with you though tha... : moogle
• so put it down if you don't have the patience to stick with it, no one has a gun to your head : kydaimon
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  it's currently my favorite series of fantasy novels... but I hate both jordan and martin, so I'm not sure... : Gauss
  • I have a very hard time reading martin anymore =( used to love it till this : kelerian
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    by the time you finish, you'll have several favorite characters [...] Yeah, unless he fucking kills th... : smoove
    • its ok, he'll make more! : Gauss
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  Tangent! I want more books like American Gods. I've already read Anansi Boys, which was great, but los... : Modica Sol Solis
  • You're probably looking for magical realism. I read The Wind-Up Bird Chronicle by Haruki Murakami right a : sgtsanity
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  Amen. Bored me to tears. Tsuba seconds this. : TheMonkeyWench
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    I may have to summon a monkey council to discuss your monkey card status -:( : Visceral Monkey
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      My army of ninja monkeys will back me up. I don't think I should have to slog through a boring book to ge... : TheMonkeyWench
      • Nobody is trying to punish you. We just encourage people to slog their way through because we know the p... : Vantage
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        I think this 'army' you keep referring to is a sham. Some sort of hoax to keep everyone in line. >:( : Halen
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          It's worked pretty well so far. :P : TheMonkeyWench
          • Well then check your shackmsg's. I sent a protest in regards to this tomfoolery. : Halen
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  I just finished Reaper's Gale and holy fuck it was awesome. : brickmatt
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    Fuck, fuck, fuck. I still don't have it. :( : Visceral Monkey
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      It wasn't my favorite, but it was really good. He's gotten much better at wrapping up a self-contained s... : brickmatt
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        Oh mother fucker, it had better not be who I think it might be. NO MORE TALK OF THIS! : Visceral Monkey
        • I was really fucking sad. Not all of my favorites died, which was a good fucking thing otherwise I would... : brickmatt
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        RIP Trull >:( Fuck you, Errant! : smoove
        • Hey, asshole, the book isn't even in north america. fuck off faggot. : boring gegtik
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  I recently finished the second book in the series(after reading the first, and not really liking it too m... : YamatoTwinkie
  • If you think they are all the same, you apparently aren't reading right. Those characters aren't even rem... : kelerian

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  and by dead, I mean the banned and by earth I mean shacknews :( : AlexXdude
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    Seriously, what the hell's going on? : guido anchovy
    • hold me. =( : mindmann
    • ppl who were banned can post in the future shacknews section. : ant_hillbilly
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  I just want seven and LeSeid back :( : felicia
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    TFO come talk about cockrings please : crummynz
    • viscid, come dance : GloriousCow
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  The funny thing is that they still obviously lurk like crazy. : digitalsneek
  • I get SMs from banned users all the time. Kinda cool. And those sms are typically the most helpful. : dmason
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  How did they return so quickly? It's like the damned Shack Symbol went up in the night sky, and like Batm... : mmogger
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    Thats what i was wondering, meelks been banned since like 04? It's like they all have eachother on an ... : great-white
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      Maybe the shack forums are alive and we don't know about it. : logik?
      • TRON! Im so excited. : great-white
  • I still have shacknews as my main page, I read it all the time. : gmd
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    Its interesting. Some kind of amnesty, at least until they offend again, would be kind of cool. : re-verse
    • Completely Agree! : --Viscid--
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      If we could read the modboards right now, I'd bet there's a lot of OH HELL NO going on. Interesting, I... : mmogger
      • those modboards kinda pissed me off, some of the mods come across as jerks on it, but i guess they never ... : donlo
    • It would be interesting to watch. Some people are already cruising for a re-ban. Others, maybe not. : Arcanum
  • Just reading the comments daily can keep you up to date on things that are going on, sure it sucks not to... : mattfl
  • Many of them never left. I even got shackmessaged by a guy about one of my comments, and he's been banned... : Magus
• Close shut the doors of !!OBLIVION : Mister Groin
• my fault; I started Doom 3 from scratch after switching it to 1600 x 1200. : the archvile
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  if i got banned i dont know what i'd do :( : GloriousCow
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    I'd probably still read the shack as well.. then cry when I can't post comments! : Shadowdane
    • i cry a little when i hit the prl :( : GloriousCow
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    Go out to the real world and meet hot girls. : mojoald
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      but shacknews gets us chicks : RikiTiki2
      • Not anymore it doesn't. : Kentor
      • Has anyone, ever, verifiably gotten chicks as a result of shacknews? : mojoald
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        Have you seen yesterday's pic? http://img454.imageshack.us/img454/2755/chicksvx0.jpg The problem i : laidback
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          bahahahahah...is that a shackmeet?? lolol, way to go guys. : Mister Groin
          • yeah, the recent SoCal shackmeet. poor missylu. or maybe she lucked out : RikiTiki2
          • I'm pretty sure she was watching some guys play GH2. : logik?
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            Had I been there I'd at least have chatted her up a bit, I mean damn, guys. (Dear wife, this is a joke... : mmogger
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              Seriously, she's pretty, I'm surprised no one was all over her or something. : AlexXdude
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                she has pointy elbows. : tsteltz
                • hahah i love you : AlexXdude
        • lol excellent pic : Barnahog
        • That is a seriously sadly hilarious picture. : AxeMan808
        • hahahahaha : Magus
        • hahahahahahahahah HAHAHAHAHAH wow that is some good stuff right there. : NastyJack
        • Can someone inf this? so we can see what the tag looks like. plz? : Mister Groin
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          I really don't see the big deal. I never understood why just because there is a nice looking girl means... : dilutedq
          • Im with you dude. Girls are icky! : nofxsux
        • Props to crummynz for making that btw.. :) : laidback
        • lol : PapaBoo
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        not anymore, check the front page. :( : Mister Groin
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          Where does it say that on the front page? I looked. =( : Zhaneel
          • it's missing from the header of the new main page. : Mister Groin
    • lol I see the character limit has been reduced to 5 characters. : freshyk
• And they're voting Republican : Thresher
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  where's hxman2k, chrono trigga and veggie?! : Mondo
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    hxman would probably come back. He's a nice guy too. : --Viscid--
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      I think we should petition for an amnesty for bans older than a year : GloriousCow
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        except perhaps in extreme situations.. perhaps like frosty or floated? : itsjames
        • and meelk, and 90% of other stoofooers / d3fxers. They'll just come back and make fun of all your posts. : --Viscid--
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    I am Chrono Trigga! And it's crazy people still remember me. I still read the shack everyday 24/7 and m... : redshak
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      The only one who probably remembers me is Degenerate since he had a crush on me. : gmd
      • I remember late night posting sessions with hawkeye and boogieman until 3 am...good times. And Teratogen... : redshak
    • Cause you made me laugh my fuckin ass off more then once : Mondo
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  Some of us have been reanimated for a while. : Wolfanoz
  • hey, Normality needs his zombie fix : RikiTiki2
• It is nice being unbanned even if it is only temporary, what isn't nice is paying $350k for a 1 bdr condo... : gmd
• I'm sorry. That was me. The chili I made this weekend was a little more potent than I anticipated. : capt tripps

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  Compression. : Lone Swordsman
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    Even with a 10:1 compression ratio you're still looking at only 5 levels like that tech demo to fill an e... : aeg1x
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      You don't think a lot of those textures are going to be re-used on each level? : liqker
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        I thought the entire point of the technology was that every level has a unique, gigantic texture? That's ... : aeg1x
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          yeah, but to my knowledge the texture is divided by something like a quadtree so you know what to load de... : moshman
          • Right, obviously there is a set of base textures artists are blending together using the dev tools when t... : aeg1x
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  5 dvds, duh!! : DingoStoleMyBaby
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    Nah. 270 Zip Disks. : dmason
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      98,345 Floppies. : changejar419
      • 328,058,714 perforated cards : pillzer
• I brought up the same question at work today. I guess we'll be heading back to the PS1 days of multiple d... : Drewus
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  Maybe by 20gig he means if the textures were stored normally. They could be generated algorithmically or ... : nudel
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    rediculous :) : chazums
    • You shouldn't of said that :) : -efx-
  • just because it can be done doesnt mean it will be, its nice to have crazy limits : kelerian
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  Procedural textures, they have to be. : nomaad
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    Yup. : Merconium
    • i highly doubt that, because that would be horrible for the artists and wouldnt give them the freedom car... : moshman
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    except for the part where they said the artist could paint whatever surface they want. doubt it's proc... : manero
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      I'd assumed it was some kind of streaming memory management, some kind of highly optimized thing. In o... : Rotten Deadite
      • That was my thinking, like if you combined mega-texture with the streaming tech from gears and applied it... : chazums
  • nope. : vigilante
  • I recall Carmack speaking against procedural textures and that his technology is practically the complete... : freshyk
• i'm guessing the game will be released closer to when bluray/hddvd becomes more standardized ? /yes : mrsparil
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  You download them from ftp.idsoftware.com before each level : red2lucas
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    So like 6 hour load times? : Sixcos
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      It's called episodic texturing. : Merconium
      • lol : pillzer
  • could be worse.. ftp.punkbuster.com : stonedonkey
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  pfft... I prefer this game. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.kkrieger : razlebol
  • mind = blown : Omning
  • woah, .. that's.. just .. woah. : Hiro
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  So, I just read on a dev site (no, I can't repost here, it's a private site) and it sounds pretty cool, b... : Fred Garvin
  • ids stuff always makes Pcs cry. : chazums
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    I wonder what the specs were of the Mac the demo was running on. : freshyk
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      It seemed to be running OK on that system- I saw a little 'hiccuping', but nothing too serious (of course... : mn3m0n1c
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        He said they knocked up the demo level in about 10 days so a little roughness is to be expected. : chazums
        • I think he meant getting it running on a Mac in 10 days. I highly doubt they buitl all that in 10 days as... : Fred Garvin
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  please, it's 'id' not 'iD' : Frozen Pixel
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    lol...really now. : VegasX
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      Also, it's "Please" considering you are starting a sentence. : VegasX
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        he also forgot a period. : manero
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          he She : sigpro
          • oh shi : manero
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        she's fucking right though. where did this iD shit even come from? http://www.idsoftware.com/ look... : mikecyb
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          it probably goes back to the Wolf3d days: http://www.classicgaming.com/rotw/wolf3d1.jpg : manero
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            http://www.loonygames.com/content/1.11/feat/images/q4_spear.jpg it's always been id on their boxes. : sigpro
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              Hahahahaha! That is such awesome box art. I like the AK-47 in World War II. : freshyk
              • yeah lol, wtf. : pigvomit
            • find an original wolf3d box.. since, you know.. SoD came out after Wolf3d. : manero
          • Back then it was ID though. : Nali4Freedom
        • Paris Hilton is back in jail! : VegasX
        • Also it's not pronounced "eye dee". The id logo is clearly on top of a Freud-like skull, indicating the ... : EvilDolemite
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  are there screenshots available anywhere? Most gaming sites are blocked here at work :( : kevp
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    http://freshyk.com/idtech5/ : freshyk
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      Awesome, thanks! has there been any discussion why this was displayed at WWDC on a Mac? : kevp
      • id will be supporting Mac as well as PC, 360, and PS3. And there is some other Mac announcement that will... : freshyk

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• bring it back : burgertime
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  It's not that bad, but whats with the cream colors? This site has always had dark designs that I've remem... : Yoshifumi
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    Black backgrounds, for the time being, belong in the 90's. Until someone does a truly stylish design for ... : SpaecKow
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      Couldn't have said it better myself. While I enjoy the Shack, the whole black background with white text... : Matt Burris
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        Easier on the eyes though : ejectorpod
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          False. The Shack makes my eyes bleed. The sacrifices I make for you... : Albemuth
          • Except that it's true. Also, nineties shmineties. : eldersveld
        • There's a huge discussion about this and it seems that to pull off good readability with black bg/white t... : Matt Burris
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        thanks, we went through an insane amount of redesign choices, maybe haiku saved some of those for some lo... : Steve Gibson
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          How many rape dollars was he paid? : Blackdawgg
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            What is the going rate on my dignity?? : haiku
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              Buck fifty. : brickmatt
              • I bid tree-fity! : theamazingrand0
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          One thing I've found over the years is that it is very difficult to please the majority of your community... : Matt Burris
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            This has to be one of the most difficult communities to try and please, because the forums are so entrenc... : haiku
            • If we didn't care as much as we do, you'd have walked out on us ages ago. The reason you're still here is : edlin
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              I think it's solid, tweaks aside, looking really good. One thing I will mention though, I couldn't pl : NoCopy
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                It went through several revisions. Consider that myself and some other people have been using this new sh... : haiku
                • Yup, as a web designer myself I understand the importance of taking some time to get used to it; and in f... : NoCopy
            • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0owRk-zYOk Everyone has aids. : [7]kami
            • i'm not sure i like the lines, connecting the different replies. ja.zz's subtle indentions to define hie... : dextius
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        the black background was always my second-favorite thing about the shack : AbortedFetusChristi
        • agreed, especially browsing late at night. switching to a white site like the SA forums just kills me at... : slax0r
    • I like the black and gray for the comments. Easier on the eyes, at least for me. Front page can be orange... : TheMonkeyWench
• As a picky web designer, the new design has my full approval. I can't wait to see it in action. : Matt Burris
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  Please call it Latest Chatty, not Chat Thread :( : TastyWheat
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    I was scared for a good 2 minutes trying to find the latest chatty button. I didn't know what to do with ... : DarkWolf5
    • what about chatty bitches? : shavenewok
  • I'll jump on this boat : megarust32
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    Chatty is a really gay word, I'm sorry. It is so fucking gay. : haiku
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      Because "Shack News" is the pinnacle of sophistication.... : Super Sparker
      • You haven't noticed the change in direction and attitude with the Shack lately? They want to reinvent th... : Matt Burris
    • How about Latest Comments or something : megarust32
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  I loved it. the comments section was sweet, but I found the front page layout the most encouraging .. it ... : strider_
  • Definitely better organized, but it looks half finished to me. It's a good thing I don't visit the front ... : red2lucas
• Good to hear it's in the near future. It's good timing with all the people working on content now. I thin... : ovrlrd
• Overall it was nice. At first I thought it was a joke because it was so very different. : Halen
• good to see you arent just playing wow all day. : mavmavv
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  let us play with it at night, we promise not to tell anyone about it. swears. : lowpoly
  • jesus cries when you play with it at night. : jake2000
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  It's great. Close enough to a blog format so that most Kotaku-type readers will know what to do, while cl... : sgtsanity
  • that analysis right there is music to my ears. :) : Steve Gibson
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    Not sure I understand your last sentence - can you explain further? : eldersveld
    • A quality backend can be the difference between productive writers or frustrated writers that avoid posti... : Matt Burris
    • Right now, the long articles kind of... take over the front page. It creates a tradeoff between quick-sca... : sgtsanity
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    Close enough to a blog format oh sgtsanity you did not. There are very few people here who have an : haiku
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      And of course steve is like hey sgtsanity, nice feedback! music to my ears HE CALLED IT LIKE A BLOG ... : haiku
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        hahahaha i took it a little different... pretty sure he just meant the interface still felt intuitve. ... : Steve Gibson
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          i'm gonna go blog now about being compared to a fuckin blog. shit. blog. ugh. now i'm angry... :( : Steve Gibson
          • Talking to you like this is like a interactive textual podcast, Steve. We should do this more often. : sgtsanity
        • steve face it, you just spent hundreds of thousands of dollars developing a slightly better wordpress. : Morgin
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          mood: apathetic : aeg1x
          • hahah : strider_
        • select * from `news` order by `date` desc; = blog : pupismyname
      • Well unfortunately for you, blogs have become such a broad word, that anything dynamic posted daily is ca... : Matt Burris
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        this is what you get for not fixing collapse and hover for so long. EAT IT : Halen
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          It still isn't fixed in the new site. In the spec, the collapses you set are supposed to be stored for 10... : haiku
          • taco jack is back?! : Morgin
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      I meant in terms of information design and knowing what to click, not in terms of "Rumor: id's next game ... : sgtsanity
      • That game sounds awesome. : c0bra
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        Ok this comment is acceptable and the type of well written sgtsanity text porn I like to see. You did... : haiku
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          i have expect to come home one day and find you hanged from your pull up bar after the shack launches and... : not work safe
          • have halve halv halfe half HALF : not work safe
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            i can't wait for the "shack my roommate sucks" haiku posts in a few months. : wtf242
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              I am a great room mate. I own a dyson. : not work safe
              • so now the apartment has two dysons? Where is drucifer? I need you to reply 'sucky' : Morgin
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              I don't complain, I'll just beat the shit out of him. He knows the score and is buying some head gear to ... : haiku
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                and a mouth guard : not work safe
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                  and a cup : haiku
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                    but really, this is worse than the talk of the shack women having sex with each other. How the hell did t... : Morgin
                    • I bet the sex is great : nomaad
              • Like you know shit about beating people up. More like post a friends-locked entry to your livejournal... : zakk
          • you guys live together? lol. I can just picture you hanging yourself on meathooks in the bathroom w... : Morgin
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        I admit I fell into the trap of becoming so hardwired into the existing layout that the idea of an altern : eldersveld
        • Ooo, thanks for the link to writeroom! This is good stuff. : Hiro
    • sorry man, but it is blogesque. im glad it's simple looking, i really hate crowded looking sites. also... : anthonybean
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    The blog format overtones is the only thing that rubs my vag the wrong way, really because fuck the Kotak... : SpaecKow
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      Constrains my preferred shacker, constraints. You have a decision at the very beginning to go fixed wi... : haiku
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        Oh no listen I totally support the fixed width thing for the 8-12 word reason if nothing else, that's jus... : SpaecKow
        • Keep in mind that they have to make sure it looks the same in all browsers out there (Opera, Firefox, IE,... : Matt Burris
      • Yeah, there isn't much to be done with such high requirements. I can respect the struggle you guys wen... : Hiro
• What did I miss? I was on an aeroplane. :/ : ScrawnyJohnny
• I would like a little more clarity between news stories that are normal stories, and those that are eveni... : Hello Kitty
• needs more use of the blink tag. and a background midi. : porp
• I like it for the most part. There a few things I would change were I at the helm: - Make the ad spac : omnova
• I really dig it. the readability to me anyway, is way the fuck better. that new front page is more like s... : thebigbeefsandwich
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  Still think the cream, red and black don't mix at all. The cream part looks like it's just plonked there. : red2lucas
  • Man I wish it was cream, but it's not, it's creams desaturated, funny smelling weirdo cousin who wears sw : SpaecKow
• hey who is in charge of all the images for game previews and that crap? Are you able to just use the sam... : Morgin
• Props to all involved, I was only able to see a few pages because for me the site was really slow at the ... : bcyde
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  I missed it :~( Was there at least liberal use the the <marquee> tag? : timmie
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    I don't understand why folks do ~ for crying, it just looks like a runny nose to me :( : SpaecKow
    • or he is owen wilson : Morgin
    • I don't do that for crying, I do it for the "long face" thing. : timmie
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  i'm curious about the forum software.. are you guys thinking of opensourcing it? I *think* wtf242 was tal... : snicker-snack 2
  • No. Those conversations were happening before wtf242 got involved on the Shack work. : ThomW
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  Meh, You should change the name of the site back to Scary's Shugashack. Porn inuendos be damned : Yoshifumi
  • Click here so sCary can eat tonight! : c0bra
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    nevar forget http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/11084704/ : AbortedFetusChristi
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      There is a huge and very conscious nod to that image on the new site homepage. I don't know if you caught... : haiku
      • Hahaha. I saw *something* behind the chat bubble, but didn't get any pattern recognition, 'cause I was go... : Rice-Rocketeer
      • heh, that is cute. I had caught the dish, but missed the fence. I still cannot forgive you if you really... : AbortedFetusChristi
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        Wait, is that the return of random comments on the main page?! : timmie
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          No, that is what we are calling Post Of The Moment. Basically people make great posts all the time that a... : haiku
          • Clever. I figured it had to be a new moderator feature in order to not display something about goat cocks... : bradsh
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  Too much black on the front page, ruins the tan. : bradsh
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    I'm seriously upset about this. It seems like the black was only kept in to keep people happy instead of ... : bradsh
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      have fun with that, you'll find pup's CSS a joy to work with : haiku
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        You know the best solution to these issues is to just make multiple themes so people can choose, right? I... : bradsh
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          I've worked on countless projects. It actually is that involved and we don't really want to spend the tim... : haiku
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            You need to learn to love to work pro bono : bradsh
            • Also, it's much easier to make custom themes if someone accidentally "leaks" all the psd's and font files... : bradsh
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          the shack is a brand. Allowing people to choose different themes on a site like stoofoo is fine because t... : Morgin
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            The brand doesn't matter to regulars, who are exactly the people who sign up anyway, and those are the on... : bradsh
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              the regulars are the distinct minority in shack visitors though. : moshman
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                So because they are a minority, they dont need love with custom themery? That's corporate speak man, I th... : bradsh
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                  Fax me ur resume please. : brickmatt
                  • I don't have a fax machine, but I have learned their language. I may have to brush up on my beeps and wig... : bradsh
                • lol :) No, it's just a fuckload of work, and because of that, it's deal with how it is or do it yourself : moshman
                • Money talks my friend, and regulars will do what regulars do, adapt, or leave. : Hiro
            • Perhaps, but maybe they would prefer to control how the shack looks in general? Obviously the people comm... : Morgin
            • Actualy, the brand creates more regulars. How about them apples. Also, try not to confuse your own opi : [7]kami
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      hey you should seriously make a redesign of the redesign and pitch it to steve maybe he'll adopt it and t... : not work safe
      • Last thing I made was this clusterfuck: http://woggle.net/ it never got done and it still took me a solid... : bradsh
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  I love it, but what took you guys so long! But seriously, how long have you been working on this? : nyranger66
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    The design was finalized in January. And then it just took a really long time because there was no full t... : haiku
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      waaaay on the side : pupismyname
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        Not even the side if you think about it. More like this slot of time that people have that doesn't really... : haiku
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          you and your fucking case statements : wtf242
          • In between asking the entire shack if anyone has ever eaten steak, you managed to hurt yourself writing ... : haiku
        • HE ONLY HAS ONE FINGER? YOU AND YOUR GODDAMN EQUAL OPPORTUNITY EMPLOYMENT : TastyWheat
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      so is what we saw the final design? No lol buttons or post bookmarks? Where are the tag clouds? :( : snicker-snack 2
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        What you see is mainly what you are going to get. - Post bookmarking/tagging was in the spec but got s... : haiku
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          Stick the tag cloud in a lightbox covering the page and have it animatedly swirl around whenever someone ... : sgtsanity
          • See if you can work in some CPU draining flash animations as well : bradsh
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          I want you to Katamari-bomb the comments page again. : TastyWheat
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            Oh you have no idea. There are some serious secret lols built into the new comments that I plan to let lo... : haiku
            • Keep ED-209 please. : Serpico74
            • it's no fun when we can't use it :( : Slowtreme
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  ARRrrrhhhhh I missed it! Did anyone take a screen capture so I can at least look at that? : fuell
  • Nevermind, it was in the third thread I looked in about the new design. : fuell
• I just checked out the screens in the other thread. I think it looks great. Can't wait until it launches!... : SilverSnake
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  contrast and compare http://sanfrancisco.giants.mlb.com/index.jsp?c_id=sf hmmmmmmmm..... : not work safe
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    http://haiku.shackspace.com/shackgiants.jpg : haiku
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      I think its pretty clear where you got your inspiration from. : not work safe
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        yeah, tell your mom I said thanks: haiku (#2362) « : Frozen Pixel
        • haha classy : askedrelic
    • For a minute there I thought that was a screenshot of Gamespot. : Matt Burris
  • Yeah, that's a totally different site. But it has orange. Right? : [7]kami
• 52 weeks, amirite?! : losimagic
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  it's a nice design, but it loses the distinctive shack look that I like to open my browser to :/ : brewsterdog
  • The Chatty Chatty Chatty (screw u haiku >:D) looked the same. : TastyWheat
  • I think that's my only issue with it really. : node
• liked it most of all, but the front page was very "Xoops"/Templatemonster.com template-esqe.. : g0nk
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  where are the screenshots bitches? : OrkO
  • nevermind, http://www.shacknews.com/ja.zz?id=14565344 : OrkO
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  what the hell are you people talking about? : rosewood
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    haha, you lose : Patch-e
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      I do some work and spend some time with the family and this is what I get? They change stuff on me? : rosewood
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        Take a look at the screenshots and weep with me. : Mad Brahmin Disease
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          I did and I don't know what I'm going to do. : rosewood
          • Freeze yourself until WHEN IT'S DONE. : Mad Brahmin Disease
  • We're all on drugs, rosewood. You may safely ignore us. : dognose
  • http://www.shacknews.com/ja.zz?id=14565344 : Arcanum
  • Steve opened a portal to the future : enigmatic
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  well i like the new comment system : Arsenal
  • is it completely missing post numbers? makes it a lot cleaner. post numbers starting each comment actu... : mXENO
• Fucking PDT. I wake up and my world asploded. : Squirrely
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  bring back shugashack!! : mikecyb
  • Quit living in the past. ;) : trOmblyj
• Please kill the late night PRL or just kill the PRL all together : rosewood
• i'd like to see it in green instead of red. the red contrasts too much for my liking :( other than that... : Korban
• Eh, it's OK. It does look sleeker, but I like the black background that we have now more that the redesi... : MurrayTheSkull
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  I demand rounded corners. I almost cut myself on those rectangles. Tag clouds are also vital. But ser... : freshyk
  • If haiku added round corners Ars would prolly sue Shacknews Ltd. :D : mn3m0n1c
• are you keeping the 'bookmark' link below the logo? : rock elf
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  I really dislike the width of the news on the front page. I don't want it all squished over on the left. ... : Zeeliv
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    you dont use dthread? o_O : Slowtreme
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      Nope, I don't like it. : Zeeliv
      • how do you even keep track? The mind bottles : Slowtreme
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    flat mode pls : nomaad
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      I believe there will be no flat mode. D-Thread only, no options, no confusion. : geedeck
      • booo. no non-d thread makes dead baby jesus weep. : AbortedFetusChristi
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        ein volk ein reich fine by me, I only ever use dthread :p : nomaad
        • It's an improved DThread, too. : Arcanum
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    comments aren't configurable anymore. The only options you can change are your filters. : wtf242
    • That combined with the lame* fixed-width front page make me sad. it wouldn't be lame if it were a wi : Zeeliv
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  REPLY button is way too big : VegasX
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    your REPLY button is way too big! : Degenerate
    • Why must you REPLY to my post?! : VegasX
    • How do I tell the redesign I can't use it until its REPLY button loses 30 pounds?!? : thaperfectdrug
    • your mom : kevp