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  That taser shot was pretty unnecessary : melt_core
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    Yeah, she wasnt really that uncooperative?.. Guess they just lost patience. : bundy
    • I really think you have to be much more than uncooperative to legitimize such a use of violence. And no, ... : melt_core
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  OH GOD LOL!!!! I really REALLY don't like un-necessary tasering, it makes me so angry but that tasertaser... : abrasion
  • I really would love to know if she got shocked again after that. : abrasion
  • actually it's like watching c3po drop stone cold. : abrasion
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    hahaha new favorite phrase: "dropped like a penguin" : festivalman
    • I _NEED_ to see animated gifs from SA of this - or a YTMND - badly! : abrasion
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  lol she sends that chair flying. : ayesel
  • I also loved that. : Mad Brahmin Disease
• Now...are you going to cooperate? Are you going to cooperate? LOL : Totenjaeger
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  Wow they really are strong weapons, check out this blatently homosexual video. http://www.youtube.com/wa... : abrasion
  • looks like they wired up his cock there. : steelsamurai
• cops are such pussies nowadays. it used to be if you dont cooperate they smack you upside the head, and t... : eggnoodles
• "youre a man! get your hands off me!" lol she sounds like some prude old lady : deep gray
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  LOL taser taser taser DEPLOY : oHnOES
  • when i was a power ranger i used to say that too : justsayno
  • That's like what I say before I like do a chick. Uh, huh. : Snif DeCrac
• I can hear you breathing Christine! Are you going to co-operate? Cop mistakes sign of life for sign of... : steelsamurai
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  and what is with people who get drunk and become complete fucking morons? I've never understood that. : steelsamurai
  • God, I know. I work as a bouncer, and some of the retards I see are stunning. : MaJeStu
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  looks very fake : oldschoolbob-o
  • yeah totally! : abrasion

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• That is such a fantastic game. : ieGod
• It came out in Europeland on Friday, so I would say that's very plausible. :) : SilverSnake
• I'm still compelled to buy it, even though I already have it. I mean... it's Ocarina. I won't, though. ... : David Craddock
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  Sucks that I already have it for GameCube. Would have been nice to get Super Metroid :( I wish they'd ... : K1Bond007
  • i agree. super metroid. now. : porp
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    I think the VC release schedule is pretty good. We've had atleast one title, often two or three a week. E... : RevRaven
    • It's been more like three or four weekly. As far as I know there's only one this Monday but that's very ... : Chris Remo
    • Well Nintendo has recycled these games on different formats so many times you would think it wouldn't eve... : K1Bond007
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      11/19/06 x 12 11/21/06 x 2 11/27/06 x 1 11/28/06 x 2 12/04/06 x 3 12/11/06 x 4 12/18/06 x 3 12/25/ : Korban
      • there were 3 released today.. : ermac
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  They need to release the Master Quest version for all the people who didn't get ahold of the GCN cube dis... : SolrFlare
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    what's different? : the_doctor
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      The difficulty has been bumped up. I think it may have new dungeon layouts too. : Prozium
      • dude! i would so play that. my only complaint with the zelda games is how easy it can get. : the_doctor
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        Dungeons are harder, overworld is unchanged. It's pretty fun. : David Craddock
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          are all the dungeons in the same place, or is it like the second Quest of the original Zelda where they s... : Omaha
          • Dungeons are in the same place, but the dungeons themselves are completely different. With much harder e... : SolrFlare
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  is it listed somewhere that isn't editable by random people? : RikiTiki2
  • It was announced by Nintendo on Friday. : Chris Remo
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  Why are the VC games getting more talk than the full games? : EvilDolemite
  • because the nobody cares about the full games :P : RikiTiki2
  • it takes less time to pull out an old file and emulate it correctly than to come up with a brand new game... : ki11_viru5
  • Because they are continuously being released. There's also a lack of new games for the Wii at the moment.... : K1Bond007
  • Because several come out every week, and people already know which games are good, which facilitates disc... : Chris Remo
  • because there are no good upcoming games for the wii (like upcoming tomorrow or next week etc) : carazy
• confirmed: http://press.nintendo.com/articles.jsp?id=11505 WOOOOOOT : slickdoody

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• I'd also be interested in any suggestions for HD-DVD or Blu-ray (also ordered a PS3) test discs. I've got... : connor
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  Mine had the remote but no king kong. Annoyingly I'd already bought the remote anyway so now I have 2. : marmite
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    Sweet. That's what I needed to know. Any thoughts on what the best test disc is? : connor
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      I have Batman and Jarhead and both look stunning but Batman is the better of the two. I'm in the UK and I... : marmite
      • I am also in the UK. Good to know. : connor
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  This is tempting. I'll be trading a lot of DVDs and some games at EB/Stop soon, might spring for one.... : Ebu
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    Can you use the HD-DVDROM to playback normal DVDs also? (saving wear and tear on the system drive) : Ebu
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      from what I'm seeing on the amazon.com reviews, yes you can. I remember reading on the shack that the sam... : connor
      • You can use it for Films but not games. It might be my imagination but I thought it made films look diffe... : marmite
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      Yes, and regular DVDs look better in it than in the 360 drive. : EvilDolemite
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        why does it look better isn't it still 480p? : monikerdaven
        • Shit, if it upscales I'm buying one yesterday :D : Ebu

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  Xbox 360, or Xbox 180? : EvilDolemite
  • 360 of course : batkiwi
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  You should have purchased an extended one - 12 is not enough, considering the ones they are replacing the... : abrasion
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    How soon do you have to purchase the 3 year warranty? I also have backup though: I bought it on my go... : batkiwi
    • wow, how much is the yearly fee for that gold card and how does it work for that 3 year warranty? also... : abrasion
    • You can purchase the extended warranty at any point while your current warranty is in effect. MS also ... : Helter Skelter
    • So who gives you that 3 year warranty for the gold card if you already have to go through MS now? Or w... : DinK
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    how the hell do you even comment in this thread. you dont even have one : CoRDS
    • how can I _NOT_ comment in this thread when the thing is a KNOWN problem, do I need to have aids to know ... : abrasion
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  If it's not national security, JB doesn't have to exchange it! sorry : Bingo
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    What? There's plenty of national security training that happens in SC and Rainbow Six games. : tsuba
    • lol my bad... I should have made it more obvious that I was joking, like replacing JB by Jack... I guess ... : Bingo

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  Everyone gets their ass kicked on Volk because they don't have max strength/health by then usually and th : Lunatic Angelic
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    Grenades and rockets were annoying, but my problem was the sheer massed fire you run into in a lot of cas... : Arcanum
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      Oh, heh, when I got there I still didn't have 1 star strength/health. I coped and you learn to let you : Lunatic Angelic
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        Yeah, I did that. BTW, this problem was on Relentless difficulty (the middle one). I got tired of assau... : Arcanum
        • And by "that", I mean waiting for the shield to recharge. : Arcanum
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      same. The amount of bullets is insane. I have 1 star of strength and I was getting eaten alive. : byorn
      • even w. strength maxed out the Shai gen hit sqauds will tear your shit up if you aren't careful. : sigpro
• I have yet to play this on live... I think I'll need to do this tonight. If anyone's interested my xbox l... : voodooraze
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  I started on psychotic because the Los Muertos island was so easy. That didn't last. I went back to t... : Sexpansion Pack
  • Suck it up Psychotic is the only level to play on. Sure you get your ass handed to you but that is half t... : woodchuck70

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  out of curiousity, what's wrong with safari? : kramweil
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    I don't like how flash plays in safari. Also, the extensions in firefox seal the deal for me as well. Saf... : pancake humper
    • same here... I never use Safari. Firefox because I use the extensions and I like the browser to be the s... : gummijoh
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    well that... and ja.zz doesn't work. : davantalus
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      doesn't it? seems to work for me (I think) : jcupitt
      • For me popup replies don't count the text you enter. "Less than 10 characters can't be worth posting" etc : davantalus
• Thats what mine looks like, but I guess you could fiddle with the font options in Firefox. : peanut-
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  dude, don't use waffleimages like that : moshman
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    why? I'm posting it in SH/SC later. I uploaded it from home. : pancake humper
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      ok, fair enough. But too many people have been using it as an imageshack etc. replacement : moshman
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        I was a goon way before I was a shacker. I know the deal ok. : pancake humper
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          ok ok, calm down. How the fuck was I supposed to know that? Why are you so hostile : moshman
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            ummm I thought you could sense my joking around with you....guess not. : pancake humper
            • i guess it's a case of the mondays. sorry :) : moshman
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  Mac default fonts are not the same as windows. I like the mac fonts much better. : lordlobo
  • I dislike the fact that everything is bolded (I have this problem too). I believe it's the way that ... : Hiro
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  That looks pretty normal to me. Did you have font anti-aliasing enabled on your PC? : emcea
  • I have ClearType enabled on my XP machine with a 20" LCD. Everything just looks crunched together. I only... : pancake humper

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  thanks I need to figure out how to use these. I installed the newest xbmc about 5 months ago was there a ... : pokerman33
  • there's a new version as of the beginning of this month, if not since : dopefish
• Is there a way to tell if a folder has unplayed videos? I wanna do this wide icons thing, but I don't wan... : gameindustryplant

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  lol @ quitting because of a patch : grifter
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    druids really didn't get nerfed that much, and they were pretty much awesome at everything :( : Clay
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      exactly. every druid in my guild just kind of shrugged it off going "it was bound to happen some time and... : grifter
      • I would love to shrug it off, if I didn't get random tells every 5 min Corksuxer wispers: HAHA YOU nerfd : Slowtreme
    • Level your priest. : Crimsonbeak
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    Well, yeah. And it's taking too much time away from other things. It's hard juggling a girlfriend and W... : wykd
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      That's why I rolled a female BE : Phreakin
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        My girlfriend rolled a female BE, should I be worried? : Chunks
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          no, no my friend, that is what we call an invitation. : pigvomit
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            my gf and I started BE's at the same time, she has a 52 mage now! : multisync
            • I would do this but I would have to pay $500 to build a new machine. : wykd
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      once you upgrade the girlfriend to wife status it becomes a little easier : Clay
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        What level can you do that at? : dante2010
        • Some people do it as early as 18 or 20, but most do it later. And as a warning: The upgrade usually req... : Arcanum
    • Yeah, the size and weight difference makes everything really off balance. Hard to keep a rythm going. : PenicillinX57
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    Whats changing in the patch? : carazy
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      40% damage reduction in bear mangle, loss of hp/armor, among some other things. I was about to quit anyw... : wykd
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        * When the duration of "Cyclone" ends, area buffs such as "Leader of the Pack", "Tree of Life", and "... : multisync
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          All these changes were a must. Feral druids were just too strong. (and I don't 'blame' players, Blizz j... : Force[FED]
          • The problem is that they took away our threat generating abilities, and the damage was the only thing rea... : wykd
  • but it's not fair they should be able to do the most damage while tanking that's balanced : Zibro
• QQ and l2p :) : Phreakin
• Melodrama, thy name is wykd. : ChibiJosh

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• You know a lot of restrictions that I saw didn't seem to be enforced; I think I remember stamps.com sayin... : gameindustryplant

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• I still don't get many that get through the filter, the ones that do, are being forwarded from my univers... : dodecapus
• Yes...it's really weird. One even got through to my inbox. :( : cookblaze

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  none widescreen SD tv looks like shit on LCD tvs. It looks a lot better on old style CRT/ RP tvs. : sigpro
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    Yeah, I always thought it was just poor set ups in the store, but it just looks washed out. Oh well, Igue... : Fred Garvin
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      OTA is good for me on regualr channels. I need a 2nd hd tuner for my back room tv/ monitor. : sigpro
      • Yeah, I don't even know if we get OTA HDTV in my area. : Fred Garvin
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  Digital or analog? Our stations (Comcast/Chicago) look great even in non-HD. : Deathlove
  • Some channels were kind of poor even on my old TV, but now it's really bad. I am going to call the cable ... : Fred Garvin

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  Anyone else here tried Joost yet? : fusionrx
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    Have any invites? : suqur
    • not yet but I will. message me your info... : fusionrx
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  I keep asking this in joost threads: is there any content yet? The few lists I'd seen, before the Viacom ... : maddy
  • Alot of BBC content... bunch of canadian stuff, some american... not much.. worth a look... I haven't had... : fusionrx
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  Does it support overly so you can watch it on a normal TV? : Fred Garvin
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    And by overly I mean overlay. : Fred Garvin
    • o rly? : doomed

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  someone already invented a reply button lol :) : moshman
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    oh it's not that long, keep your whining to yourself : Clay
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      oh, I thought you meant to reply to the plane experiences thread on this page. I don't care how long post... : moshman
      • mine wasn't about getting delayed, it was about dreadful in-flight experiences :D : Clay
• Business Class is the only way to fly these days : spiffymc
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  I think you should hate people, not planes in that case. I personally hate people & planes. Or rather peo... : tcs
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    oh, I hate people. I thought that was a given. I did have one flight where I was the only guy in some ... : Clay
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      Ah, sounds so nice. I despise those 5h+ flights. I'm a tall guy and my knees just don't fit into econo... : tcs
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        yeah, i'm about 6'3" and have that problem to. Somebody tried to lean back on me during one flight so I j... : Clay
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          lol yeah, same here ;-) I like the cheap European flights and for 1-2h economy class is totally fine. ... : tcs
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            damn, only now I realise who you are. you do some awesome graphics stuff, I remember the old days of flip... : moshman
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              he did the gcr logo too :D : Clay
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                artistic talent + excellent programm = worth a lot : moshman
                • *programmer : moshman
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                  I'm sure that logo wasn't me ;-) There's actually another guy who also works / worked in games with th... : tcs
                  • i used that elipsoid idea in my thesis code : moshman
      • Ugh, yeah, the reclining seats annoy me so much. They have these carefully measured seats that leave just... : maddy
• I had a similar one flying back from mexico city, thankfully only 4 or so hours to chicago. I was sat nex... : moshman
• I was flying back from Dallas after Christmas, as we started to descend into Dulles the little girl in th... : asylumn
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  they like to be called flight attendants you jerk! : pancake humper
  • the guy was fairly effeminate so I felt the term "male stewardess" was appropriate. : Clay
• planes are awesome :(. people, on the other hand... : FrayLo
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  You think you had it bad... try sitting next to a teenager who *craps* her pants sitting next to you, ... : oo7|bond
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    was she hot? haha, for real? How old? Afraid of flying? : tcs
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      She must've been about 17.. no older than 21. I think she was sick. It was a flight back from from the... : oo7|bond
      • So horrible, for both of you ;-) Guess I can consider myself lucky! : tcs
• I lol d at male stewardess : peetabix01
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  On my last trip back from Germany I was put next to a kid of about 12. Yeah 11 hours of him asking me qu... : Crimsonbeak
  • Whatcha doin? Why? Why? Why? Why? Hahaha. : Arcanum
  • Buttons was the dog. Buttons and Mindy. Also lol curt schilling is fat : Deathlove

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• :-) I AM KIDDING :-( I AM SERIOUS Wow. Thanks for this link. :) : tomservo
• totally tubular : Experiment IV
• I am happy there is still no cursing on "Internet." : ChibiJosh
• I <3 Internet : davantalus
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  "There's nothing personal. There's no screenfuls of 'go to hells.'" Oh, simpler times. : EvilDolemite
  • go to hells, i will drop you like a penguin!!! : steelsamurai
• Canadian news! Go CBC on the internets. : oldschoolbob-o
• I like how they have the swedish flag when there is a message from someone in Oslo : OrkO
• LOL, "sharing scientific ideas and cultures" should actually read "porn." : PenicillinX57
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  Oh, that's great I've been using Internet since 93 myself, what about you? : SiW73
  • 91! : adhy
  • '97 or '98. I remember shugashack. : SlamDunk
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    My first experience was with Prodigy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prodigy_%28ISP%29 back in the early 90'... : voodooraze
    • Same, Prodigy and Compuserve. Prodigy around 92-93, I think. : king_darius
    • fuck yeah, little yellow box crew. Had a unix account I used at school through some friends (uhuru.uchica... : Deathlove
  • 1988 i am old].s : steelsamurai
• WELCOME TO INTERNET. : nomaad
• "Borders still count for something" hahaha nice. : Mustang|

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  Wait until May when they release the revised hardware version that doesn't break after 90 days. : PenicillinX57
  • I was consider waiting for hardware revisions, but I still want to know this information. Also, last I r... : amrbean
• You can stream WMV with XP, if you have vista home premium, ulitmate or MCE 2005 you can do WMV and mpeg ... : sigpro
• The 360 is the best console I have ever bought. I can stream music from yahoo music engine. I have th... : carazy
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  Update to Question: What are the "must get games" for the system so far? What kind of downloads are avai... : amrbean
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    By my question on Live content, I meant, like the arcade games. Are some free? Any good? : amrbean
    • All arcade games have free demos to try, some are good some are just meh. It has stuff like doom, geometr... : sigpro
    • I enjoy texas holdem, marbel madness, and geometry wars on live arcade. : carazy
  • Crackdown looks pretty sweet :< : tomservo
• Check this out: http://www.xbox.com/en-US/hardware/compare101.htm : nomaad
• I can stream music from napster (subscription plan) to my 360 using it as a MCE extender, .wmv video also... : Jayx77

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• Oh yes, another lame attempt for over-the-hill women to "reclaim" their sexuality and spirituality... : EvilDolemite
• Ew :( : genjuro
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  i can't believe you guys are complaining about women trying to be sexy. i bet these women's husbands a... : dahanese
  • there's another thread about people being pleased that Costco nerfed their return policy. On the shack... : Clay
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    This type of "sexy" just reeks of insincere trying-to-hard desperation though. Sexy is being confident... : EvilDolemite
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      meh, sorry, confidence is walking into a pole dancing class when you are over 40 with 3 kids. and i bet i... : dahanese
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        Eh I don't automatically have to think pole dancing is sexy just because I'm male. I'd probably find i... : EvilDolemite
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          well, there you go. you don't think pole dancing is sexy! that's okay. i'm just glad that older wom... : dahanese
          • That skanking out and overcompensating thing is what I think of, honestly. I'm sure most doing these c... : EvilDolemite
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          Plus you can't just have the pole dancing, you'd need to simulate the environment around the pole. You'd ... : genjuro
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            beer? you mean wine coolers, right my chocolate stay-puft marshmallow man? : Bean
            • They only serve those at the male revue :/ : genjuro
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            wtf strip clubs you go to that play bon jovi? : creep
            • I've seen and heard horrible things, creep : genjuro
        • I'm totally in agreement. Even further, I don't think I'd have a super awesome time at a strip club (with... : tomservo
      • She has a point you know. Reality-check: people get old. Thats no reason why they have to stop living. : avatar_58
    • I bet it makes their husbands get "to-hard"! ;) : Bean
• unsurprising baby boomer move :/ : mattsull85
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  Christ. : Phil
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    now that explains the extra money Mrs Phil spends. : creep
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      That would be asking a lot of that pole. : Phil
      • oh god that's mean : Clay
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        Dude, just get a divorce and be a hppy, but poor man. I mean all you really need is a net connection, a P... : Fred Garvin
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          lol... "just"... : melt_core
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            Well, it seems to me he spends a lot of mental engery hating on his marriage so... : Fred Garvin
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              so do I... : melt_core
              • If you are really that unhappy why stay? : Fred Garvin
      • Phil obviously hasn't been to a strip club on amatuer night. : trOmblyj
• Oh hellllllllll yes. : tomservo
• Oh that's hot! : phoenixarisen (#2168) : FormerHPB
• http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_NCijnCHdo : ultramega

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  I wish it had a stats thing to tell me how many agility obs from each city you have. Fucking 499 found an... : sigpro
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    oh man that kind of sucks. how many hidden orbs have you found? : carazy
    • 176 or so. : sigpro
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    Oh god. that's gotta suck. :[ : burningtrees
    • Yeah I had like 491 or so then went though 2-3 areas and got upto 499. This last one is killing me. I hav... : sigpro
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    Have you found the one on top of the Agency building in the middle of the three islands? You know, the or : voodooraze
    • There's a couple up at the top of it that I have gotten. : sigpro
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    I'm at the same spot. I have been everywhere, I mean EVERYWHERE. at least 50 times. Nothing. :( perhaps i... : Frozen Pixel
    • Yeah It would be so nice to just have the stats say you have xx/some many orbs on this island. Then at le... : sigpro
• Yeah that would awesome. It needs a stats system like the one in GTA. : voodooraze
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  how do you get to the top of the agency tower? I got pretty far up there - to the point where there's ... : Clay
  • hint: look at the rear of the towers, there will be a pipe that you can leap up to reach the rooftop. You : Fyunch Click
  • should be videos of how to do it on youtube. Make sure you are level 3 if you want to get to the very top... : sigpro
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  once you beat all of the gang bosses, are there any gangs at all left in any of the cities? if not, can ... : busdriver3030
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    you can start a campaign w/ no bosses but with random crimes on so you kill gang members, but not bosses.... : sigpro
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      awesome! thanks. do you know if when crimes are turned on, you can still get hit squads to come after y... : busdriver3030
      • yes : contentious roy
      • I think it still does hit squads yes. I just beat it last night and didn't turn them on yet because I wan... : sigpro
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    after you beat it, you can still play with random crimes on. i dont think there is a way to restart the ... : pandastrong
    • "Random crimes" is a bit of a misnomer, though. What it really does is re-enable all the gang spawn poin... : Arcanum
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      they need to do this somehow. patch or otherwise, I think my interest in the game would still be high if... : contentious roy
      • I agree. I'm really surprised they didn't include this to begin with. : Arcanum

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  Nevermind, here is the orginal post: http://www.shacknews.com/ja.zz?id=13912384 : knitemare
  • Dawn of Sorry for $10! I might have to check this out. : helvetica
  • Sweet damn that's an awesome list... I think I'll be taking a detour on my way home today! :) : voodooraze
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  Yep its true, just posted about it. : lohke
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    Yea I saw that right after I made this post. I'm definitely going to go see if I can pick up some of tho... : knitemare
    • all i really want is metroid prime 2. :-( : dahanese
    • which GBA games are good on that list? : c_man_tmt

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  I also enjoy the Mexican Food commercial: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wA8C6m5h3dE : Rag and Bone Man
  • fucking lol.. OMG my face hurts! : Shadowdane
• !Diabetes¿¡ I love me some DrTran, America's Greatest Action Hero : Lunatic Angelic

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  Has anyone played it yet? How is it? : marmite
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    The SP demo was good, if you liked the first game. I'm expecting more of the same from the GRAW MP demo a... : sigpro
    • I liked the single player demo a lot. I'm keen to find out what the multiplayer is like because in the or... : marmite
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  GRAW2? : Clay
  • God Rewards All Waiters 2 (It's a religious restaurant sim.) : ChibiJosh
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  There is also a MLB 2k7 demo on there now it seems. : sigpro
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    I am currently downloading both. Will report back! : Yanks
    • I so need remote wake-on lan for my 360 + remote desktop. : sigpro
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  wait, can silver members use a multiplay demo? : mavmavv
  • for system link I guess. : marmite

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• Recently? Company of Heroes. I think so many people have passed because WW2 RTS makes it sound boring and... : marmite

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  well now we know who wears the pants in this relationship : darkT
  • actually...she does. she hates skirts, and i own a utilikilt (www.utilikilt.com). so....yeah.... : mindmann
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  Fun until Nightmare, don't fuckup your build :D : Nighteyes
  • Hehehe. Oh, damn. I was playing with cpt.ken a while ago, but we haven't had a chance to finish Hell yet.... : Rice-Rocketeer
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    not quite sure what i'm doing yet. my friends said a fire sorc with most points in bolt, meteor, and fire... : mindmann
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      I made a blizzard sorceress. Not quite done the build, but I am doing like...10 000 damage. It's *hot.... : Rice-Rocketeer
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        where's good info on real builds? i was just thikning of maxing out meteor and fireball. me and her ar... : mindmann
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          Diabloii.net has some really good build guides. Just look for "sorceress build guides" in Google "+[in... : Rice-Rocketeer
          • Really, there's not much to making a good build, just max out your synergies in the skill that you want (... : Rice-Rocketeer
      • Static Field, and you need to play on co-op. Hell is SO HARD soloing. : David Craddock
  • i always thought bone necro was the best build/class for hell, just spamming bone prison and bone spear ... : Fish_Bulb
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  fun to play together until a unique ring drops off of a boss and you fight over who gets to keep it. (i ... : cpt. ken
  • Haha, I was thinking about the same scenario (in-game) but your comments to the whole thing was gold :D. : GodZilly
  • WHY ARE WE UP SO LATE? : Rice-Rocketeer
  • ^^ Awesomo ^^ : filthysock
  • its all fucking peachy untill and fucking SOJ droops off fucking mephisto, god damnit. : mojo the helpr monke

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• I want an earth F1 car. I could be like Stallone!!! : mavmavv
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  To help raise awareness of the environmental issues facing the planet, the RA107 F1 car will simply featu : peanut-
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    shut up. you know race fuel is good for the earth. : mavmavv
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      The car will only emit baby foxes. : peanut-
      • this made me lol. I was picturing the firefox fox being shit out of the exhaust pipes at high speed. :) : mavmavv