Lord of the Rings Online Pre-Order Program Announced

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  PvP is dueling and Monster Play. Monster Play is where low level char's can create level 50 trash mobs a... : Dessicator82
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    The monster-play thing is innovative. I like that. Still, anything less than full-scale pvp is someth... : phreakshow
    • after all the crap in WoW about PVP this and that i wouldnt mind a game with LESS PvP focus, atleast then... : donlo

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• I as well, get them to do that will ya, I'll be over here. : fuji-juice
• well now you wont know for at least another 6 months as it's been delayed ..but I'd definately pay $199 f... : cptstern

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  Congrats, but didn't you just break your NDL? :) : Sylvanus
  • Er.. NDA : Sylvanus
  • Yes that breaks the NDA, but its not a real huge deal unless youre doing somthing really wrong. : tyrelhill
  • no because he has not acctually agreeded to the NDA at this point. : Nation

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  That would be awesome for EVE Online. : pebui
  • IAWTP If I could get a flat rate sub, I'd probably play Eve, as it is, I can't bring myself to pay mon : Toraz Chryx
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  Would you say the same for Guild Wars? They're even cheaper at $49 Liftime if you choose to look at it t... : Sylvanus
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    Guild Wars isnt an MMO : johnny skidmarks
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      How is it not? : Sylvanus
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        Because MMO usually refers to a persistant world game, which GW is not. GW is battle.net with 3d chat cha... : johnny skidmarks
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          Um.. how exactly isn't it a persistent world? Sorry, I just don't see it the same as you do. By your de... : Sylvanus
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            I don't DDO an MMO either. : TrptJim
            • don't consider* : TrptJim
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  It's probably largely due to the fact that the average MMO player subscribes for 18 months. : Chris Remo
  • I would of assumed a lot less, I know it's stupid to use my own experiences but I doubt I've ever made a ... : yourname00
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    Wow, that long? Is there some sort of an article about that? I think it would be interesting to see ave... : pyrogen
    • I thought that the average subscription length was two to three months? : MH Knights

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  stupid nda otherwise id speak my mind on it. : smacknca
  • When does your NDA expire so we can get your thoughts? I trust a fellow Shacker more than posts on the o... : Dechter
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  Of corse all the beta journals make the game look like the second coming. Do you honestly think they wou... : MH Knights
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    I dunno actually... I hopped over to read some of the beta journals and so far they can be summarized as:... : Johnny Law
    • Well, it does have a precedent in The Hobbit, where Bilbo engages in a riddle game with Golem and Bilbo's... : sinclair4217

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  EQ2 is probably only about 10% or 20% instanced as well? : yourname00
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    ya right... TeamSpeak EQ2 eample.. P1 - "Dude what zone you in?" P2 - "I'm in Green Forest 14" ... : ShadowRam
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      uh, EQ2 rarely splits a zone beyond 2 copies.. : Bantis
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        It's less instanced than WoW really, it annoys me that people complain about EQ2 being instanced, at leas... : yourname00
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          he's talking about when a zone splits; which like I said isn't common, and nor is it instancing; it's a ... : Bantis
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            Yeah I know, but I also know how many people pick up on it that don't play EQ2, that was kinda my point a... : yourname00
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              nah, I understand; I try to defend the game whenever I can; most people judge it based purely on its laun... : Bantis
              • I liked EQ2 much more than WoW. : Sylvanus
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            it might be more common if there were more people playing ;) : alexthegreat2
            • They have good numbers actually : Bantis

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• Indeed. : jhof
• yea the lifetime deal seems like a good idea. More folks should do that. : jonin
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  I don't know. It almost seems like the game most certainly is not good with them trying so hard to pre-se... : spl
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    Every game and MMOs especially try and push preorders. : yourname00
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      _so hard_ : spl
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        How can you interpret that from this? Because of the lifetime buy-in? If every new product came out wit... : trove
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          Lowering the per-month price by 1/3 of industry standard for people who pre-order, indefinately. That's p... : spl
          • Or, maybe they are pull people away from WoW that would otherwise never try LOTRO and are using these tac... : pyrogen
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            It's a great idea though because people that do it will be less likely to cancel. : yourname00
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              Well, I certainly never denied it was a good idea, at least from some standpoints. : spl
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                I think from every stand point. Most people here seem fairly indifferent to the game, but I couldn't imag... : yourname00
                • I agree with everything you said except for the word "every". =D I'm sure there are massive amounts of... : spl
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            Yes. Even more so; Guild Wars. Rolls eyes - 7 million may say differently, but WoW is NOT the end-all : Sylvanus
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              That's cool. I'm not really sure what part of what I said that you are trying to make respond to though b : spl
              • I'm definitely not trying to twist anything. :) "Bottom line is, they know they have a product that wi... : Sylvanus
  • It's a fun game. A super casual friendly game with great lore and pretty graphics. Will it replace my R... : Dessicator82
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    Since when did offering good deals become indicative of a game's quality? : megarust32
    • _so hard_ : pyrogen

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  you should discount everything you hear because it is still under NDA. If someone acctually broke the ... : Nation
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    Why would it be either extreme? I don't get your logic. : r_picmip 5
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      why would someone break their NDA agreement? I see three reasons: 1. they are so excited they forget ... : Nation
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        Do you have a significant other or good friend? MMO NDAs don't scare anyone. No marketing person will e... : r_picmip 5
        • Unless you do something like post three hours of footage on YouTube (with your character's name visible),... : MH Knights
      • So stupid to not take is seriously? LOL. An NDA is like taking the Pledge of Allegiance. : trove
• You heard wrong. : Sylvanus
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  No you heard right. This game will fail. : datim
  • Based on what? : Sylvanus
• +INF please : Ride-My-Rocket
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  Limitations on classes and races, really stupid quests (ex: run back and forth between two NPCs that can... : datim
  • WoW has about a dozen quest lines or so that have that. : Turd Ferguson
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    YOU HEARD IT HERE FOLKS!!! : Bantis
    • sadly, he's right. : grandmasterlee

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• they also make lots of money. : doomed
• I would pay $30 a month and still save money...when playing an MMO i'm garaunteed to but at least 1 less ... : graceofdragons

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  but what if you had put down $300 for WofW? : Nation
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    That means you can never quit though, is that such a good idea? :) : yourname00
    • sure you can, it just gives you the option of playing or not without having to decide to pay more or not.... : Nation