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• Do you like programming? If so, start learning. It's never too late. If not, then there's no reaso... : DOOManiac
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  Programming is sweet. I'm only on the second semester of a basic class in high school, but I plan on taki... : DrFlammable
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    lol, soon you will learn the hate that comes with Java. : devi| dog
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      I really don't get the hate. It seems like it comes mostly from people who started with C/C++. Its not pe... : derelict515
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        compile and run it, then get back to us : jaga
        • It's not like it's Java's fault that someone's code is not perfect. : DrFlammable
    • i love java fuck that : SockMonkeh
    • I too hated Java when I didn't understand it. : Audhuml4
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    lol, I used to think that too in high school. Then we did Visual Basic and C++. : AlexXdude
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      I'll report back in a year, don't worry. : DrFlammable
      • Well, good luck either way! I do hope programming is the thing for you. : AlexXdude
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  Start with PHP, it's easy and fun! : helvetica
  • seconded : zipper76
  • i am learning PHP off-hand and as programming languages go its fairly simple and easy to learn. im enjoyi... : hobosapien
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    And unemployable. : mojoald
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      It brings in the money hats for me! : helvetica
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        And me. Yay moneyhats! : SwiftyPants
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          And also me! : DOOManiac
          • Sexy PHP party time! ♥ : helvetica
    • Oh please. There are several dozen good reasons not to choose PHP. This is not one of them. : action roommate
    • 1. You're wrong 2. I'll grant that it is more difficult to find employment using PHP (sad face), but I : Ebu
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    As much as I ♥ PHP, I wouldn't recommend it to beginners. It's very easy to get into some ... : DOOManiac
    • iawtm : Clay
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      java is indeed a good starting point. i started with c++ and it's been pretty good to me. i understand ... : the_doctor
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        Java is a good place to start, tho I find all the 'packages' and 'java beans' and the lack of being able ... : downrightevil
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          This message makes no sense. If you had no knowledge of the libraries in your C++ environment, you couldn... : taronish
          • I wasn't talking about the library packages, I was talking about the strange project layout... in netbean... : downrightevil
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      I'm going to go off on a large informative post here for a second. It all depends on your focus. Start... : MrAdults
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        I don't disagree with you about C++ being requisite, especially RE: any kind of game development. The top... : DOOManiac
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          Am I going to have to retrain myself if I do Java before C++ if I want to program games? :[ : DrFlammable
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            I think it's possible to start slowly with C. I did the majority of my learning in C, and I never felt li... : MrAdults
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              Also DrFlammable: Despite what you may think regarding MrAdults' and my back-and-forth, neither of us is ... : DOOManiac
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                That's why I try to emphasize to people who are getting into programming, how you should start largely de... : MrAdults
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                  You're talking about coding a mod, right? I'll definitely give Q3 a try soonish, but have you heard anyth... : DrFlammable
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                    I personally recommend staying away from HL2, even if you know how to program. ;) But yeah, Q3/JK2 are al... : MrAdults
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                      So I don't need any extra programs? I can just jump into the pk3 files with notepad? : DrFlammable
                      • You still need to download the actual Quake3 SDK, but it comes with the VM compiler: ftp://ftp.idsoftw... : MrAdults
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            C++ is harder to learn than Java. Modern game programming (in any language) is even harder. You've got... : DOOManiac
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              C++ at this point is showing its age. I think you're right, though, that at some point he should learn so... : taronish
              • My current plan is to major in computer science in college, but I haven't really done any research or tal... : DrFlammable
      • When I had to code in assembly with sixteen registers I wanted to die. : helvetica
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    although php is cool, I would not recommend someone new to programming to start with it. It does not have... : wtf242
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      But all variables have dollar signs that make you feel rich! It's a very easy language to understand, : helvetica
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        Whoa, I've never seen C/++ code before, but that looks fairly easy to understand. Maybe it's just the com... : DrFlammable
        • Well, besides the vocabulary of the language. (I forgot to post this part. :x) : DrFlammable
        • Yeah it's very readable. The pointers in some parts of the code get really crazy though, that part goes o... : helvetica
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        i think python or ruby are better learning languages. I would never recommend c. It's very confusing for ... : wtf242
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          pffft. I learned to code by reading K&R. You kids. : zakk
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            so did i : wtf242
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              I really think the most important thing when 'learning to program' is to actually have something you want... : zakk
              • This is a really good point. Figure out what you want to do, and then ask the Shack when you get stuck. ... : helvetica
              • Having a project is KEY. If you don't have a goal you'll never learn it. : ThomW
              • I agree. This is the other big reason why Java and VB are good beginner languages. You can pretty quickly... : DOOManiac
              • oh, absolutely. great point. : warpdude
              • yeah definitely. When learning a new language, I always start with a specific project in mind. With Pytho... : wtf242
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      i hate that sometimes it is search(haystack, needle) and sometimes it is search(needle, haystac... : sikander
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        PHP drives me nuts because of that shit. It makes me want to write my own String class to replace all th... : ThomW
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          IDE. IDE. IDE. : action roommate
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            haha no shit. You crack me up. Why don't you help me out and buy me Zend? ;) : ThomW
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              eclipse has a php extension : wtf242
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                Or komodo : action roommate
                • If I'm spending money, it's going to be for the Real Deal. I've lookedd at their site and I don't think ... : ThomW
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                Couldn't get it working with FTP and I wasn't that jazzed by it. I'll pay the $250 if it's worth it. ... : ThomW
                • well if you're using subversion, you can just ssh to your server and extract your code there. no ftp requ... : wtf242
          • We're stuck on Dreamweaver at work. Someone needs to invent something better that has a similar file chec... : DOOManiac
      • Yes, this is one of the language's biggest faults. A problem from when it was much more amature-ish. Thi : DOOManiac
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        yeah, jesus fuck. also, the standard libraries for it are a fucking mess (though, admittedly, well-docume... : warpdude
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          and the seperate methods for mysql_ and pgsql_ ? wtf? Why not just have a "db_connect" method handles con... : wtf242
          • because they're all separate, native drivers? I'm not saying I think it's good the way it is, but if y... : action roommate
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  if you invented a time machine, i doubt you'd need to get into programming. : jessipoo
  • constructing a time machine probably requires some skillful coding. Oh cruel fate! : DinK
  • lol, wut? If he invented a time machine and then went back and told himself to become a programmer he wo... : devi| dog
• Learn yerself some .NET. : thaperfectdrug
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  Learn Ruby, pick up good object oriented techniques from the start. : tacocat
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    ruby's loop contructs took some getting used to. Now they seem natural, and I dislike writing scripts in : BulletPro
    • I'm afraid I don't have any good advice on the GUI issue. (Personally I hate GUI programming but Cocoa /... : tacocat
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      ncurses-ruby, obviously : egg5hen
      • I've never done curses programming, but I think this is what I want. : BulletPro
• Being a programmer sucks. I want to be a supermodel. : MrAdults
• thank God there's no time machine. programming is miserable, miserable work. : BulletPro
• I just started C#. At first I thought it was cool, you can just use the ui to bind data, but apparently t... : Smellsy
• start with COW: http://www.bigzaphod.org/cow/ Then move on to Malbolge: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M... : DonkeyPopsicle
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  VBScript / Classic ASP is a good way to learn the basics: methods vs. subroutines, passing parameters by ... : Ride-My-Rocket
  • vbscript and it's english-based operators, retarded string delimitation and commenting syntax can kiss my... : action roommate
  • I wouldn't recommend that to my worst enemy. If ... Then, stupid errors caused by a poorly-implement... : ThomW
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    How much is VBscript even used outside of virus writing these days? : DOOManiac
    • I use it for screen scraping and quickly automating repeated processes I do at work. Nothing like 5 scree... : intothefray
    • I don't think there's much new development being done on the platform, but you can bet your ass there's t... : action roommate
    • VBS is used a lot in Network administration, scripting events and crap like that. As for full application... : woodchuck70

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  Oh, this isn't the crappy tilting-based one from before too - its the full on pointer & tilt etc. : 60days
  • So is there a link to this mod ? : imperator
• woah : AbortedFetusChristi
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  Jesus, I don't even want a Wii anymore...just the remote. : alarm cock
  • incredible as it sounds, you can buy them by themselves, and, well, they go for pretty cheap : barichnikov
• thats awesome : SockMonkeh
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  so he had to modify the game so that it'd show the gun rotating and his arms moving into those positions?... : edgewise
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    The gun models are 3D and in the game - SMOD already made them movable. He definitely took it to the next... : Damodred
    • i just really, really, really love the free-aim : SockMonkeh
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  Oh wow. AI in future games will have to adjust to initiatives like this I would imagine. :) : tomservo
  • Uh.... Why? : famine101
• sweet.. i may have to pick up a controller now : Mr.Fusion
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  I've only played Red Steel once, but these controls look very similar to it. And I didn't really like Red... : Bingo
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    Red Steel was the worst fucking game I've played in years. This guy just made this, and of course will pr... : d0gbert
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      I hope I'm wrong! As I said, I've only played Red Steel once so I'm not the best person to say that these... : Bingo
      • red steel is poor even for the wii itself. CoD3 is much better in every way. : alexthegreat2
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    I played Red Steel for the first time a couple of days ago. I found the controls to be very difficult to ... : basketofkittens
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      I also played the minigame Monkey Wars in Super Monkey Ball and thought that the controls were great afte... : Bingo
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        there's LOTS of hope for Metroid... just trust me. I've been sworn to secrecy. : phokz
        • awesome tell us about it : aurealis
        • NDA's are for pussies... spill the beans : buzzbat
      • Indeed, Monkey Wars is a surprisingly viable FPS. : Conan
    • My biggest gripe is that Red Steel's control neither manages to be a good alternative to kb/mouse nor doe... : Vorlonesque
• nice. give the success of the wii i think chances aren't that bad that we will see some kind of device li... : Hoax
• damn. smart dude : aurealis
• awesome. : moe6
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  oblivion's weapons need this : thebigbeefsandwich
  • that'd be awesome. : sKetchflow
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  Why is the nunchuck flailing around? : Fred Garvin
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    i think it's a 3d representation of what the accelerometers in the wii remote are reading. : cltcprd
    • err.. wii nunchuk : cltcprd
  • He's chucking nades. It's not showing the full motion of the controller components, just the rotation. ... : alarm cock
• http://www.shacknews.com/ja.zz?id=13699999 I picked up some IR leds today, so I'll have an actual sens... : basketofkittens
• super-hero-like-even! : m0rfus
• Niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice. How are they going to make it so you can spin around easily, though!!! : Rice-Rocketeer
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  haha, that's neat. : Dan 101
  • You're neat. : SenorSpine
• Shit that's awesome. : thejm4n
• Does this guys project have a homepage or blog? : jake2000
• Fuck I can't wait to drive the buggy with Wiimote + Nunchuck. : Mad Brahmin Disease
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  That's pretty nice, but I wish it'd show the gameplay together with the guy's (real) hands moving the (re... : zehh
  • ---> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oscbzu3J2ak <-- : jonas54
• Damn, that is so hot!! :) : Maddog_Delphi97
• Shit, that was very smooth and awesome. : askedrelic
• Holy crap. I want. Now. :O : DOOManiac
• This is the badassest badassery that has ever been badassednessed. Can't wait! : fleabug
• Yeah, I knew this would happen. Just not so freaking soon! : spazzium
• Does everyone realise that the Wii controller drivers are already out? http://www.wiili.org/ They're n... : protozone
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  not impressed.. same control issues that red steel has.. when you want to turn your body, you give up the... : dextius
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    you're a lost cause. you don't seem to understand how incredible it is that a casual gamer was able to do... : Korban
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      Casual gamer? Likely took more effort than that to bring the pointer into the engine. : spazzium
      • meaning, he's not a developer... yet : Korban
  • agree...impressed with what he did, still require Camera locked with Targetting : graceofdragons
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  I am sick of these 'wiimote & HL2' articles floating around the net. Real genius is using an atari2600 j... : furiouscrak
  • I'm sick of your face. : voodooraze
  • So you're at... the 1980s? : Ride-My-Rocket
• Ok, that's neat and all, but what the hell is the music? It's damn catchy. : Helter Skelter

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  it's a fun play for a couple of days but it lacks depth; although maybe the latest versions are better. ... : alexthegreat2
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    yes, the dated graphics and lack of depth are apparent. they combat is fantastic and i hope someone picks... : SockMonkeh
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      The game is being actively developed. It's not even out of beta yet and you're talking about a sequel? Cr... : DrZettl
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        No, no, no, I'm just saying a full-blown game company should pick it up and turn it into something huge. ... : SockMonkeh
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          I'm ambiguous about a studio picking them up. On one hand, moneyhats for very deserving people and potent... : Damodred
          • they should sell it on steam : Modulus
  • capturing the castles should take you a good while. : thebigbeefsandwich
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  It's one of those games that can't stand on it's own, but if the combat system was incorporated into an o... : kingdepork
  • That is my biggest "Hate" for oblivion, complete lack of mounted combat. The only reason to get a horse i... : Githyanki
• when I tried it a year and a half ago there was really nothing to do once you got bored of the arena or t... : johnny sanguine
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  Different towns have different arenas. 4v4v4v4 rocks. : Damodred
  • plus the payout on multi-team bets is huge! : boring gegtik
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  Awesome awesome game. I haven't played the latest iteration. But it's one of those games you buy, play... : DrZettl
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    Oh I love jousting. You get yourself a nice charger and a great lance. Cover yourself head to toe in heav... : SockMonkeh
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      I love ploughing through a field of soldier with the lance, then coming around for a followup pass with a... : DrZettl
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        I prefer a bastard sword for its versatility. I can stab with it to penetrate armor or I can slash with i... : SockMonkeh
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          There's something more badass about swinging a huge axe from horseback than a sword. : DrZettl
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            You might change your mind when you have my bastard sword sticking through your face, buddy. >:[ : SockMonkeh
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              How you gonna stick it through my head when yours will be cloven* off? * did I just make up a new word : DrZettl
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                Nope, it's real. And this is why M&B needs multiplayer! : SockMonkeh
                • also they should get together with the dwarf fortress dudes @_@ : boring gegtik
• Gotcha, bitch! : SockMonkeh
• I loooooooooooooove Mount & Blade. Combat system is AWESOME. : Rice-Rocketeer
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  the story mods are pretty worth it compared to vanilla. : azenmaster
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    what where : boring gegtik
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      Check the mod boards. Lots of added stuff in there, easy to install. : Damodred
      • love the username :P : boring gegtik
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        hey is there a way to make the overland map less annoying? specifically it's automatically on pause, unle... : boring gegtik
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          I tend to race ahead of caravans, then hold down space to make time pass - then they catch up. When they ... : Damodred
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            nothing wrong there's a damodred hero in one of the arenas I was conquering :P : boring gegtik
            • o_O I had no idea. : Damodred
• I spent my Sunday playing this damn addicting game >:( : hadokennn
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  I'd have to say it's great, and for that price it's worth every penny, each release gets a bit more expen... : maxmc
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    Those 20+ warriors are no problem if you're wearing black armor, guantlets, black greives, and a great he... : SockMonkeh
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      But you have to get the black armour first! :) : maxmc
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        In this game, you gotta make the money first. Then when you get the money, you get the black armor. Then ... : SockMonkeh
        • my knight rolls up on coke deals with a chainsaw : boring gegtik
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  What are the systems requirements? Could I play this on my laptop, on the road? : The Key
  • probably but it's mouse controlled. My PC is modest and it runs full detail@1920x1200 : boring gegtik
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  ok so i bought the fucking thing >:-( : boring gegtik
  • nice play, i love it : SockMonkeh
• Bookmarked from the future. : Ojalo1982

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  I suck at bowling. Played it for the first time yesterday and I bowled a 56. :( Worse bowler ever... : K1Bond007
  • at least you didn't kill your TV. : the archvile
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  I'm coming over this week to check this wii crap out. : sigpro
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    lolz : Degenerate
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      don't let him play, he's spewed too much Wii hate and can't be saved. : cltcprd
      • i'll still spew wii hate for anything other than party games just for you. : sigpro
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  lol Get over 200, then we can talk. ^__^ My Eddie Vedder Mii will bowl all over you. ;P : DM7
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    I actually just bowled a 215. I'm pretty inconsistent still though. I usually bounce between 150 and 180.... : Degenerate
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      Nice, four more points and you got me. I had like 219 or something. :P My friends and I are so good i... : DM7
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        yeah I probably wont break 200 again for at least 10 more games : Degenerate
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          263 or something like that. I was one frame off from a perfect game :( : oldschoolbob-o
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            I had 7 strikes in a row last night before a 9 and 1 spare. FUCK YOU LAWS OF PHYSICS. >:( : Rauol Duke
            • it was a 6/3 for me in the 6th. I striked out after too :( : oldschoolbob-o
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    243 is my highest : zagzig32
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      i can make the ball spin backwards : zagzig32
      • how far have you got in the spin control game? :P : oldschoolbob-o
      • I did that once before, it cost me the game :~( : DM7
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  135... lol : cltcprd
  • YOU ARE JEALOUS NO? : Degenerate
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  Does the Disco Bowling Lane open up when you bowl 300? : dirtboxer
  • that would rock : Degenerate
  • Disco Bowling lane? That's not in the game, is it? :o : DM7
• my high is 220 and i don't even own a wii !! : barichnikov
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  i used to bowl >200 IRL but that's because i was taking bowling at community college and i played every m... : cpt_gloval
  • Bowling is such an amusing sport in the way an extra pin here or there can swing your score 100pts. I've... : riptyde
• my sister-in-law, all 5'5, 100lbs. of her, rolled a 238 just saying : Deathlove
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  I rolled 250something last night. Goddamn I wish that shit was online. : Rauol Duke
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    Youre lucky that its not : Degenerate
    • I need 15 points and I'll be Pro yo. I WOULD BREAK YOUR FACE. : Rauol Duke
• I got over 135 when I was trying to lose to my son to keep him happy. He got 120, and he's 4 : red2lucas
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  So when do the Regional Qualifiers start for the Wii Sports Shack Invitational to be held at Quakecon? ... : loboca
  • i've never lost at tennis either. : cltcprd
  • Wii Sports, LAN style. SOLD! : hosty1e
• My 5 year old bowls a 188. I cannot beat him. : project13
• Haha. That game is pretty damn broken. slide all the way to the right, aim for the pocket, hold b, wait f : tostador
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  My wife rolled a 280+ . : rosewood
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    my high is 280. also got 278 and 277, but i always bottle it and miss out on the 300 :/ : burgertime
    • Pretty much the same, here. I seem to miss one strike every single time. : BoKnows
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  Speaking of the Wii, why are the Wii play commercials showing Rayman as 16:9 ? It makes me cry. : rosewood
  • I dont know but Tsuba showed up in my Wii parade today : Degenerate
• I just found out you can get lanes with 80+ pins on them. It's fucking awesome to watch all those pins fa... : sammyl
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  I'm at the entrance to the Water Temple and am putting it off. I absolutely despise swimming in games. : hosty1e
  • ugh.. mis reply ftw. : hosty1e
• how do you do the special tennis serves? :( : maulla
• I am so close to hitting Pro level in Tennis. I am playing nothing but Pro's now and they have like 3000... : woodchuck70

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  As The Recording Academy prepares to present the 49th Annual Grammy Awards on February 11, celebrating th : MorrisatCNN
  • lol : skruff
  • who the fuck watches G4 : boring gegtik
  • oh god.... : carnivore
  • Ahaha, oh dear god. : brickmatt
  • The words "ear rape" come to mind. : baron calamity
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    Oh hell yes! Bring on the cheese! : helvetica
    • but when they do cheesey it's never really funny :( : Mr.SEX
  • Actually X-Play's special concept episodes are usually pretty good... the Breakfast Club parody was aweso... : Carnivac
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    G4 is still on the air? : mancide
    • Yes, about all they play is reruns these days. Xplay and Attack of the Show are their only regular series... : baron calamity
  • Iv herd enough of morgan and adam's lame awkward jokes.... then some how attack of the show managed to ma... : godm0de
  • uuunnnggghhh : sgtsanity
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    I'm so sick of those two, can't they find new hosts? : grandmasterlee
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      With any luck this will be their swan song. : baron calamity
      • Tell me what/who I need to sacrifice to make that happen : grandmasterlee
    • it's not the hosts that are the problem, it's the overall presentation of gaming and gaming related news ... : edgewise
  • only if the american idol judges roast the shit out of them during each one : Downforce
  • I saw this commercial during BSG last night and threw up in my mouth. : Salad Sammich
  • Jesus god. : tomservo
  • The first seal has been opened. : ayesel
  • Morgan Webb is even turning me off now.. yuck yuck yuck!!!! : mystifier
  • Man-Jaw Webb kinda has a nice rack. :( : bitter ego
  • Why can't I get money for stupid ideas like this? : Sylvanus
  • "One Out of Five" = infamous rating system???? : king_darius
  • gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyy : das_runt
  • oh, fuck no. : skryte
  • Adam Sessler is a G : Subarushian
  • this sounds pretty cool : klearlyunseen
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    Bad filk. Very bad filk. : Fyunch Click
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      Is there good filk? : Zhaneel
      • rare, but it's out there. : Fyunch Click
  • *sigh* : virus
  • G4 is joining FOX in the "new low" league. : Mad Brahmin Disease
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  I like to watch Olivia Munn... she's dreamy! : bluntage
  • This bud's for you. http://gamewad.com/olivia-munn-modeling-pics-so-hot--1910-p.html : notd665

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• lol, an Admiral would NOT be suggesting crap like that. : byorn
• whoa! we get to meet Jack's Dad! : byorn
• ***SPOILERS PLEASE*** some of us can't watch it till we get home from work : Korban
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  Jack has family? Is Awesome hereditary? : Rotten Deadite
  • Apparently not :( : AlexXdude
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  OMG OMG OMG : loboca
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    Where do I recognize that guy from? He's been in the series before! : Rotten Deadite
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      he is one of the wisemen, the 4 in the room controlling the president last season : ra1n
      • whoa! your right...very cool : byorn
• oh shit all of jacks family is involved! : ant_hillbilly
• WTFBRO : egg5hen
• no. way..... THAT BASTARD!!!!!!!! : infiltrator`
• oh snap, Jack's vs Jack's Brother. : riptyde
• WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT. That motherfucker is Jack's brother? : K1Bond007
• holy shitballs! : ra1n
• whoa.... : Rauol Duke
• hahahahaha, that's fucking hilarious. : dirtboxer
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  I feel really lucky that my brother has never said "We should have killed him when we had the chance" whe... : trOmblyj
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    that you know of!!! : byorn
    • oh, this is true. : trOmblyj
• thats flying dude's wife from HEROES! THAT BITCH IS GETTING TO SEE BOTH SHOWS UNLIKE ME :( : ra1n
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  ahahahah. STOP TALKING. NOW!! : AlexXdude
  • finally someone told one of the whiny women on 24 that : byorn
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  oh whew i thought that british dude was jack's dad. : infiltrator`
  • lol, me too...that would have sucked. : byorn
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    Jack's dad: James Cromwell : trOmblyj
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      really? where did you get that? : byorn
      • It was announced in Sept. Along with Eddie Izzard joining the cast as well. http://tv.ign.com/article... : trOmblyj
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  hahah, I love that FBI guy, he keeps putting Sandra back in her place. : AlexXdude
  • aw hell yeah : AlexXdude
  • HOLY FUCK WOW. I can't believe I have to wait another week to find out WTF is going on with his brother. : newek
• oh crap, it's on! : byorn
• lololol KNOCKOUT PUNCH !! : infiltrator`
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  lolol the lengths Jack goes.. I swear.. :D : K1Bond007
  • Ahahaha NOT GOOD ENOUGH! : K1Bond007
• jack is a bad bad man!! : infiltrator`
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  haha, the good ol bag over the face trick. : ant_hillbilly
  • yeah, that was always the deciding factor in my sibling rivalries : byorn
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  So, who thinks the kid is actually Jack's? : newek
  • Almost positive he is. The resemblance is uncanny : AlexXdude
  • TOTALLY. : Rauol Duke
  • definately, it makes a lot of sense from what we are seeing : spl
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    I fucking hope not. That's a storyline we don't need : K1Bond007
    • Bring on the Puma! : DarkWolf5
  • Yeah, he looks just like Kim : indosauros
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    doubt it...that would mean that Bauer was having sex with his brother's wife while he was married to his : byorn
    • well, he IS the man : spl
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      I think the first season alluded to other affairs besides with Nina. Jack was a ho in the day. : Rauol Duke
      • guess I forgot about that : byorn
  • I think that would be a shark jumper but it certainly seems like they want us to think that. : riptyde
  • Without a doubt. : eXcess
• omgomgomg : fsck
• it's been said, but it bears repeating: WHAT THE FUCK : Daggoth
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  Okay, I missed something... How did Jack know his brother was somehow involved? : Thresher
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    they didn't really come out and say it but its obvious that jack's bro and dad and close and chill togeth : infiltrator`
    • Plus, his brother is an annoying douchebag, with or without being a terrorist. : AlexXdude
  • He probably just knows his brother is a complete dick. When he got there I think he noticed that Graham w : K1Bond007
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  10 cool points to the person that finds me the name of the actor that plays Jack's brother. : MuteMode
  • Paul McCrane. He had a Fro in the movie FAME : Thresher
  • ROCKET ROMANO!!!! : trOmblyj
• Damn, they canceled his credit card.. Jack's pissed now. lol : Maddog_Delphi97
• 24: Days of our lives. "But, Jack! I am your brother!" "You are not my brother.. in fact.. the child ... : Fredrik S