Vanguard: Saga of Heroes Goes Live January 30

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  wah? No way man. The community is already too strong for that IMO. : geneshifter
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    I attempted to play but I couldn't get past the fact that the entire screen would go to blue whenever I t... : lvlmaster
    • just turn left three times, duh : veras
    • You are clearly not an ambiturner. : theflux
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  If Auto Assault can stay alive this long there's no reason Vanguard can't. : r_picmip 5
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    AA is actually a pretty fun and original game : alexthegreat2
    • Not really. : r_picmip 5
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    and if SWG, Matrix Online, Horizons etc etc etc can stay around this long, this one will be around for aw... : gendail
    • The difference between all those games and Vanguard is the fact that Vanguard has millions upon millions ... : Modica Sol Solis
    • SWG was fairly successful. I will be surprised if Vanguard reaches 500,000 users. : Porkasaurus

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  If it's just a lie Blizzard tells, why is everyone immitating Blizzard? : Arcanum
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    I guess I can see where he's coming from - for example, PC gamers (especially FPS fans) are concerned abo... : Schnapple
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      A thing people forget is that WoW already had a fan base much larger than that of a normal MMO, WoW had t... : mordaken
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        Bioware... : Layn
        • And Bioware, which if they did a MMO, I am sure I would be fully as interested in it as I am with WAR, I ... : mordaken
• Lol, just a lie. That is funny FUD right there. Maybe he should go to work for Sony - or the White Hous... : geneshifter
• It is awesome. For an mmo, the games world is untouchable. I think the only thing that could compare is : Wombat Woo
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  This is a common design mistake. Lots of designs use complexity to add game depth, when really that isn't... : gnoleb
  • How dare you bring common sense to this thread. : Porkasaurus
  • Thats a great argument. Zelda is a perfect example of this. : Warmaker
  • Yeah, I cringe when I see that a game has 40 classes or 75 weapons, because you know that each one won't ... : Dynotaku
• I want a complex mmorpg so long as it plays well. I'm sick of the glorified chat style with no emphasis o... : thebigbeefsandwich

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• Yea, bottom line is they are out of cash for continued development unless they start getting a positive c... : Visceral Monkey
• With all due respect, Smed has done EVERYTHING possible to give us as much time and money and support tha... : Flynn

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  Yeah. Unfortunately loads of people buy just about any hype about any freakin' product nowadays without d... : code-e255
  • And unjustified hate. Vanguard seems to have the most hate from people who haven't even played the game ... : valael
• Lol all the beta's said the same thing of SWG when they launched it, pushed out too soon and with SOE all... : bored

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  http://www.ebgames.com/product.asp?product%5Fid=646556 : moz
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    $100??? : deathofrats
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      Also comes with 3 months paid time vs 1 month. Not that I'm defending the $100 price tag but if retail c... : gendail
      • scratch that, I fail at reading comprehension. It's 3 months of Station Player access, yeah that $100 is... : gendail
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  And I thought $70 for TBC collector's was steep... : Goncyn
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    it is cause its only a fucking expansion pack : erebus
    • But dude. In-game pet!!!!!1 : Goncyn
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      Actually, the Burning Crusade Collector's Edition contains shitloads of goodies, not just some cheap gimm... : code-e255
      • Update: Checked the official Blizzard online store and 2 starter decks + art book ~= $55. And that's not ... : code-e255

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  Play GW with me!! Do it! : Salad Sammich
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    What is your user name Salad? Mine is "Cinderr Ashburn" : prowlinger
    • My Dervish (L20) is "Extra Onions" and my Warrior (only L13 now) is "Two Eggs Over Easy" : Salad Sammich
• Yes, every MMO worth playing has a monthly fee... see also: Guild Wars. : Angrakhan

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  I have that happen on my 7800GTX and alot of it has to do with my hard drive thrashing around while I loa... : Kevl4R
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    World of Warcraft was already an amazing MMO like a year before it launched and was in pre-beta. Sorry, b... : code-e255
    • I played a beta character to 57 in WoW, then turned around and levelled a retail character to 60 in 5 wee... : Goncyn
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    what happened to having a finished game before retail? : painangel
    • lol : skinlab133
• It's unplayable for me on anything but the lowest settings. If there are more than a couple of PC's on sc... : skinlab133
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  RIDICULOUS - In the years they've been working on it, it's constantly run like total shit - but they're g : veras
  • I agree, been in since early beta, its just beyond stupid for it to be like this. : kelerian

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• A whole bunch of stuff was cut for launch, including two classes (Berserker and Inquisitor). : Modica Sol Solis

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• yeah, theyre idiots. BC is not only a sure sell for the millions of active players but its also going t... : johnny rotten
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  I think a lot of people that are looking to buy the expansion are not the type of people playing Vanguard... : geneshifter
  • I think when people are flocking back to WoW to play BC....the threads are going to read like this... ... : Kevl4R
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    I'm curious about your attraction to Vanguard's graphics. My roommate got into the beta and I thought he ... : Dynotaku
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      I just like the look and feel of the game. It's purely personal taste. : Kevl4R
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        Same. I also like the way eq2 looks. WoW is nice, but I got tired of the way it looked after a while. : Visceral Monkey
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          People who choose what game to play based on its graphics deserve to be fed all of Sony Online Entertainm... : code-e255
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            I'm sorry but that's really short sighted in this day and age. An MMO especially needs to look good beca... : r_picmip 5
            • So the game STILL looks great after 60 levels? By that point I would be much more into the gameplay then ... : byorn
          • immersiveness, of which visuals are a critical component of, is a big part of many peoples enjoyment of g... : johnny rotten
    • I agree 110% : fuji-juice

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• I tried it, as well, through the fileplanet beta and couldn't get past the performance, either. My Intel ... : gnoleb

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• Heh, seriously. I get this game's only going to have like 5000 stubborn fanboys playing in a month after ... : code-e255

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  I'm been in the beta for almost a week and played some 15-20 hours. Even in my little time, I can tell a... : geneshifter
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    Hmmm, I'll have to give it another shot tonight. When I played it last week, it seemed like it needed a ... : pyrogen
    • I agree. The first night I played (Saturday) the game ran like crap. I still get a lot of caching when ... : geneshifter

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• my guess is the same guy who "figured" this are the ones who think releasing that close to The Burning Cr... : yuried