AppleTV, iPhone, Touch it!

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  Posts like this always entertain me. "You lost a customer." They blatantly "lost" millions of customers b... : jake2000
  • ugh why did you say that, you just lost a customer jake2000. : not work safe
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  they said it's be in Europe sometime after the US launch.. : g0nk
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    4th Quarter : maxmc
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      i'm really impressed by the iphone but i'll renew my contract in may...damn : neo69
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        Ummm, so why don't you just wait? : eXcess
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          i'd be without a phone for half a year : neo69
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            isn't there a month-to-month option for your carrier? it's not like they kill your service after your con... : warpdude
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              yup, they do :-/ things are different in europe : neo69
              • What? In Sweden when the time is up it continues month-for-month until you renew it again. Or perhaps y... : maxmc
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  also they plan to launch it abroad in 4th quarter. : not work safe
  • I can't wait till 4th quarter, any alternatives to iPhone you think? : Function Pointer
• Hell no! I want the US to get the shitty 1.0 alpha versions with gratuitous mass of bugs and defects bef... : biofrog

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  http://www.apple.com/iphone/technology/specs.html : notext
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    the battery is 5 hours only ?? that is really bad. : sikander
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      that's 5 hours of talktime.... : Toraz Chryx
      • or video playing or browsing : nadasurf2
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        omg i spend 5 hours talking on my phone every morning it'll die omg : BulletPro
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          I am too popular and cannot be bothered by weak batteries : tomservo
          • nobody calls me :( i think 20 minutes talk time would be good enough for me : Korban
    • well most phones are around that. Also that is longer play back of video than the current iPod video. : historyinthemaking
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    Wait, what... is this the same "multi-touch" as this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zp-y3ZNaCqs ? How di... : Dusty_Slim
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      they've had the two finger touch in their trackpads for sometime now, yes? I think thats diff than the vi... : epit
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        The Multi Touch input system was built on OSX. You can see them using it in the video. All they needed wa... : Landrosradick
        • On that note, this device would FKING AWESOME for navigating a city by foot! : Landrosradick
      • The notebook trackpads seem to be useless for anything but scrolling, the iPhone seems to be much closer ... : flooq
  • Lemme guess… no user-replacable battery. : anonimo

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• With the mic on the earphones I hope they'll use voice commands for accepting calls at least. : flooq
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  You know... it IS a phone. You can talk into it and the people on the other end can actually HEAR you. : vertdang
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    for dialing.... : Barbarian
    • oh, well he shoulda said so. : vertdang
• Microsoft Voice Command = the Win! : anonimo

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• http://www.appleinsider.com/article.php?id=2274 http://futuremusic.com/blog/?p=628 I'm assuming Apple... : Serpico74
• and up the storage right? $300-350 for an 8GB mp3 player is pretty stinky : nadasurf2
• i'm really surprised that there isn't a non-phone version with a hard drive : GloriousCow
• you only have one pocket? : OrkO
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  TRANSPARENT ALUMINUM. : flibble2k
  • That's actually not a bad idea. They can grow single crystal, completely transparent Aluminum Oxide in t... : Enkidu

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  And no DVR. Psyched for the iPhone, AppleTV, not so much with the new 360 stuff that was revealed this we... : Serpico74
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    neither are real DVRs. HD-TiVo is $600+ : BulletPro
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      DVR functionality will be in the 360 by the end of the year. Only drawback is the small hard drive. Hopef... : Serpico74
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        I don't see full DVR functionality in the 360 ever. It'd be a direct conflict for the Media Center initia... : Bantis
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          bullshit... Microsoft has always wanted an All In One box and back in the original xbox's day everyone... : dedgecko
          • bullshit... It's a Media extender; it already does all that functionality in a different way (your Med... : Bantis
      • from IPTV, or cable/satellite? : BulletPro
      • Bullshit. DVR functionalty will be on the Vista Home Media Server. : mojoald
• To be fair, a 360 + HD-DVD is at least $500, has no HDMI output, has no built-in WiFi g/n, and is now 2 w... : BulletPro
• One thing that I think is a big mistake is no 480i. HDTVs are becoming more and more common, but they're... : mattleexbox
• Well, a $299 360 can't play HD-DVDs, but, if you already have an Xbox 360, shelling $299 for an Apple TV ... : ErneX
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  It does have some advantages over the 360. First, it can stream from any Mac or PC running iTunes. You... : BlackCat9
  • Oh. Also, (5.) podcasts. : BlackCat9
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    you don't need vista or xp mce to connect to the 360... also, you can use the 360 usb ports for storage ... : nadasurf2
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      No, but you either need to reencode your media or setup software to transcode everything on the fly. The... : walker270
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        i like the 360 media interface. plus so what about the transcoding? you do know the apple product cant pl... : nadasurf2
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          Unless recently changed, the 360 media interface is a fucking list with no organization what-so-ever. It... : walker270
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            i would say the typical itunes video downloader is a tech savy person and not your everyday joe. after al... : nadasurf2
            • Or watching it on an ipod video... Only one of these options requires the modest amount of technical k... : walker270
  • My 360 can stream music and internet radio from my MacBook using Connect360. It can also stream movies if... : ErneX
• The 360 is great until you compare it to my car... No wheels... Low horsepower... 0 to 60 in what? ... : walker270
• the AppleTV has twice the storage of the 360! : Postal
• This is such a difficult, nearly pointless argument to make on a gaming website. : not work safe

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• Except for the LG8000, all the photo taking ability of the verizon phones I've had has sucked supreme. ... : festivalman
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  ...aren't most phones only 1.3 mega pixel? : Korban
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    nooseman doesn't suffer from US_cell_phones_blow disease obviously, being in Sweden. : festivalman
    • yea nokia n80s have had 3mp for at least a year or two : smacknca
  • I think in Asia there's already a 10mp fone. So yeah...2mp is meh.. probably only there so they can hav... : pobone
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  megapixels is an idiotic way to determine the quality of the camera. Number of pixels is largely irreleva... : sicko
  • ^so true : headbone
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    I've printed 3 and 4MP photos that look very good at 13x19", it comes down more to the quality of the cam... : Speedy8
    • electronics don't matter as much as the optics : OrkO
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  does it even have a flash? : ease_one
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    if it works the way a MacBook works, the screen will flash to pure white when the picture is taken, which... : dopefish
    • I think the lense is on the other side : OrkO

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• This was meant as a reply to #115, but the basic idea of everyone saying that 360 > Apple TV is somewhat ... : theflux
• Sounds like you need a modded xbox with Xbox Media Center. Only big problem with it is that it can't han... : nurikabe

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• 802.11n. That certainly slipped through quietly. : Serpico74
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  Its USB 2.0 port always supported printers, but now it supports a USB 2.0 hard disk... it's a NAS! : BulletPro
  • (where "Its" means old mushroom APX and wall-wart Airport Express) : BulletPro
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  no more UFO shape? >:( : ariakaz
  • 'looks like a Wii now : Borzoi
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  ok wtf for 179 they could have at least made it gigabit ether : smacknca
  • especially considering Apple was a huge proponent of giga back on the pmacG4 from 1999. : BulletPro

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  (just to clarify, in the sense that the 3G coverage is fantastic here, finding WiFi hotspots = alot more ... : aaarrrgh
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    I thought TDC had an ass load of wifi hotspots in and around cph. : peetabix01
    • They have a few, but nearly enough for it to be feasable, I'm told. : aaarrrgh
• yup, I feel the same way. wifi spots are rare, and 3G coverage is pretty much the same as GSM : moshman
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  Whats 3G? : Sgt_Boomstick
  • 3rd generation network tech. technically, gsm is 2G, and EDGE is considered "2.5G". It's been availabl... : aaarrrgh
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  Same here, I was hyped up about this phone until I read that it won't support 3G. Seriously, wtf was Appl... : 5150Joker
  • They said at the keynote that 3g would come in a later version of the phone. : cdbeckman
  • That's how they get you to buy the next iteration. : sgtsanity
• Also, keep in mind they have five months to change things. Steve could very well intro it at a June even... : Dechter

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• Seriously. The clips are really impressive. : Serpico74
• ya, this is one very very well thought out piece of technology. Design is brilliant. : downrightevil
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  Even for the ipod part, it looks like the interface might be better than the current ipods. I was doubti... : Barbarian
  • I agree. This beats the scrollwheel, imo, which is huge. A seperate video iPod with the touchscreen sa... : Serpico74

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  apple.com i think : shademonkey
  • It's not up yet http://www.apple.com/iphone/keynote/ : ventro
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  http://events.apple.com.edgesuite.net/j47d52oo/event/ : flibble2k
  • thank you! : snowwolf
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    That won't load here. :/ Server hammered maybe? : pillzer
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      Still no worky. Anyone got it to load? : pillzer
      • yeah i've watched the whole thing, fucking excellent. : snowwolf

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  5 hours of ACTIVE talk time. 16 for music : Yanks
  • Yeah I didn't realize that part at first. Sounds much better now. : h o s t i l e
  • Right, and my video iPod has enough battery for me to watch four 2 hour movies. Once. Then maybe one 2 ... : Bruzilla
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  Please find me another smart phone with 5 hours of talk time! : Bantis
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    http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/phones/Detail.aspx?device=8802ddeb-1ee4-477a-9608-d9cd1e2a903f http://www... : rosewood
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      check and mate : Korban
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        find me one that's remotely as useful or as cleanly integrated : dopefish
        • Considering the MDA has exchange support, it is quite a bit more useful for me. : rosewood
      • frankly it proves my point either way :) I've only dealt with treos and the Q, neither of which get near ... : Bantis
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        don't get me wrong, i WANT this iPhone. i'm GETTING this iPhone. i'm switching to Cingular in June so i... : Korban
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          Yea, I hate to say I'm planning on doing the same :( Yay for 200 dollar early termination fee. I can't w... : Bantis
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            i'm lucky. my contract with verizon is up in april, i believe. i can stick it out with them on month to... : Korban
            • I really hope Sprint and Cingular copy Alltel and T-Mobile with this My Circle stuff; GF will still be on... : Bantis

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• um, a 24 month contract will likely be closer to 1400, not 400. : dopefish
• In denmark 6 months is the maximum period anyone can bind you to a subscription, wonder what the price wi... : imperator

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• It supports IMAP, but like the blackberry, you'd need a VPN/firewall-busting access method. : BulletPro
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  I'm sure Microsoft's Mac business unit is working on Entourage Mobile. Who knows if it will be released, ... : mojoald
  • well i bet mobile outlook would work just fine, but thats not nearly as slick as direct push support whic... : smacknca

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• touching is good, no wait..... : jonin
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  Hoping for a ScummVM port... if the touchscreen stuff is accurate enough. : jake2000
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    mobile monkey island! yay! : dedgecko
    • already possible on the DS : headbone

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• my thoughts exactly. Its a cool except, but I want to be able to load anything I want on this magic box ... : c_man_tmt
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  Just rip DVDs to H.264? : BulletPro
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    Why? Might just as well play DVD on my already hooked on the TV-DVD player. : pillzer
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      you set a media server up with all your DVDs pre ripped, then you never have to take a disk out.. : Bantis
      • Meh. Ripping takes lots of time. I'm not lazy enough to be unable to move my ass and put a DVD manually i... : pillzer
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  I was also wondering about that. If that thing doesn't play any arbitrary video file (DivX and Xvid in pa... : code-e255
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    Not sure you can fault AppleTV for not playing your bittorrent downloads. : BulletPro
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      ..... There are tons of videos that aren't pirated movies that I'd love to watch on my TV. : pillzer
      • like.... : BulletPro
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      srsly, home movies = illegal. : sasoi
      • im so notifying the MPAA about you. when will you dirty bittorrent downloadin pirates learn. : nadasurf2
      • Don't most home movies these days come from MiniDV sources, and get burned to DVD? Why the hate that it d... : BulletPro
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      I can, and I will. (Honestly though, I see no reason to get something like this when a generic media P... : tigeN
      • You're paying for Apple's interface, and the features that it can do. Building an HTPC takes time, and fo... : BulletPro

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• they are only dominating the portible mp3 market : Rageaholic

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• I like that thought, especially with Motorola like you pointed out. It's like all they've been doing is ... : Barnahog
• Dear cell phone mfgs: I need another 0.6mpx on my cameraphone like I need a punch in the face. How about... : sasoi

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• you know someone is going to create iGloves : Spoetzl
• wash your hands, young fat man! : deviantpaul
• Chicks with heavy makeup are going to decimate this thing. : Sgt_Boomstick

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  Should be able to. If you've been a customer for awhile, you might be able to "trade-in" your current pho... : brushbaron
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    you can do a trade-in for a new contract agreement every year i believe. i traded my old phone recently f... : reverend~heresy
    • Yea I was recently looking at a blackjack for only about $99 if I ended my current and resigned for a 2 y... : shortbuscaptain
    • i got w810i too. I like it it but now I am thinking I should have gone with the blackjack. : ease_one
    • you can do a new 2year contract every 18months on Cingular.. : g0nk

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• I would guess the software development community will be all over this phone if it's "OS X" as Apple says... : stuka
• It *should* be able to play anything iTunes can play. : Warlock
• I'd imagine its limited at purchase to base QuickTime-supported playback, but surely 3rd party players or... : jake2000
• It looks like AppleTV is just a gimped media center extender. It looks like you can only view videos tha... : mattleexbox

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  yeah, that part worries me as well. the videos on the apple site show using the keyboard with the iphone ... : warpdude
  • they talk about keypress error. Obviously I think the first thing that comes to mind for everyone when wa... : downrightevil
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    There is error correction if you look at the SMS vid on the site. The demo keypresses hit something like... : Barnahog
    • oh you're right; I missed that part of the video. that's pretty sweet. : warpdude

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  srsly, 3.0 mega pixel phones have been out forever now with a flash even. It seems rather silly to sig... : ease_one
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    yeah, because a 2mp camera is all you end up with. : carnivore
    • I wouldn't care if it didn't come with a cam at all. : kingdepork

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  There will be an announcement forthcoming that details an agreement between the two (already mentioned on... : moz
  • http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?type=topNews&storyid=2007-01-09T190232Z_01_N09161330_RTRUK... : moz

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• the price is only if you GET a 2-year contract. meaning you'll stick with cingular and that plan for 2 y... : Korban
• i think that just means you are locked into a carrier for 24 months, and have to pay them an additional m... : flibble2k

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  I would think Rogers would get it eventually (or I hope so). Rogers has coverage in Victoria doesn't it? : Barnahog
  • yeah it does. I'd prefer if it was telus though. : Dan 101

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  Or only Cingular can sell it at their stores but you could buy it from Apple directly? : carnivore
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    it's GSM, so the phone will work on any GSM network, however, some of the weird features (like the voicem... : dopefish
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      so apple will sell it online? or only in their stores? : carnivore
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        actually cingular is going to sell it in their stores : Yanks
        • both. apple store and cingular stores. : sicko
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      Is it LOCKED to cingular? can it be unlocked? only time will tell... : pobone
      • it will absolutely be sold locked. Cingular never sells phones that arent locked. You will probably be ... : smacknca

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• it's GSM, it'll work on a TMobile network just fine. you'll just be missing a couple of bells and whistl... : dopefish

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• *Ba-dum tissh* : hardfl1p

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• I'm pretty surprised about the price. It's very reasonable for what you get. The "w/ 2 year contract" d... : r_picmip 5
• if you bought apple stock recently you would be in the imoney today! : Iwannaacura

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• that's the phone : Zeeliv
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  It's the iPhone. It's got an iPod program inside that turns it into an iPod minus clickwheel. : stuka
  • I read "Well today, we're introducing THREE revolutionary new products. The first one is a widescreen... : smoking pets