World of Warcraft: The Burning Crusade Burning Later

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• it will sale like hotcakes regardless. : eb9k
• The only thing they will miss out on is the monthly from people like me that don't want to play the game ... : pigvomit
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  No one is going to buy it after Christmas. lol : joekamel
  • yeah, for real. haha : tcxsnoop
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  With an MMO, what difference is it going to make? It's not a standalone product. People who play WoW ar... : Chris Remo
  • iawtp. TBC will be purchased regardless of when it is released. 7 million players will be playing befor... : crunchcast
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    Well, it will matter some to people who have left and have thought about returning. But as far as losing ... : johnny skidmarks
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      people aren't thinking about returning to wow because its christmas, they want new stuff. they will get ... : grendel
      • Yes, but people typically have more time during the holidays. Come the New Year, lives and routines will ... : johnny skidmarks
  • I see his point though. People get in a spending mode around Christmas, asking for and buying things they... : Bantis
• Yeah no one is going to buy it....except the hordes of WOW nerds. : soggybagel
• you're right instead everyone will get pre-order receipts for christmas and won't have to "buy" it in jan... : fluke
• Normally you'd be right but i think with WoW it's different. They'll know from the number of people who p... : -pRy-

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  AV rep is a joke. You can get exalted in one AV holiday weekend easy. Though 60 tokens does sound a l... : bobo_the_clown
  • i can confirm that!!! : kabron
  • bg rep will be meaningless in the new honor system : grendel
  • I agree. I'm half way between friendly/honored and thats after oh, four or so hours of play on Sunday... : -pRy-
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    I'm glad you guys have a better time than I do. Seeing as how the Horde on my battlegroup loses every gam... : FlatlineDixay
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      You want to grab peoples bodies. Every blood you get is 5 rep and players usually drop up to 5. Plus ar... : Chod
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        wow never knew that. Time to clear out the inventory and grab the bodies I always run past. : -pRy-
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          the medals/scraps turn-ins are key to really gaining non-AV faction rep, too. I didn't realize it and onl... : eskimo spy
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            Doesn't that only work for Orgrimmar and Ironforge? : FlatlineDixay
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              yeah, I play zee Dwarf Hunter, so I need IF rep. the other alliance factions (Darnassus, Stormwind, and I... : eskimo spy
              • Once you hit full exhalted with the main city Org/IF rep the turn ins give you a small amount of Horde/Al... : Psychic Potato
          • So who do you turn them in to? NPCs in the battleground or somewhere else? : -pRy-

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• 2 new races and chance to play a new class (pally or shammy) : pigvomit
• You cannot get to level 70 unless you have the expansion, nor can you learn jewelcrafting, or play the tw... : Chod
• They're not forcing you to buy it, you can continue to play all the level 60 content. No guarantees that ... : FlatlineDixay
• The new Jewelcrafting profession is interesting too, but the big thing is that there is loot in Outland t... : five_percent
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  Ony and BWL are made obsolete by the expansion. 40 man raids are a thing of the past as soon as it's out... : kek
  • They're obsolete in the sense that there's no need to do them when you're over lvl 60, but if you haven't... : Avatar

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  You mean like the buggy, un-optimized mess that is BF 2142? Yes, I agree. I should've learned from my p : silverback1138
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    Don't even go there with me you in-game ad supporter! : Pneum0
    • ROFL. Yeah :( I'm sorry. I'm just disappointed with the quality side of the game and that adware stuff.... : silverback1138

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• Not sure about your question, but this was my thoughts exactly. The Wii/BC being so close together was a... : devi| dog
• The Wii version of Twilight Princess is identical to the GC version except for 3 main differences 1) the ... : SternOne

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• Die gnome >:( : DM7

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  id say there has been a lot of new content. they have added AQ20, aq40, naxx and are alwase adding new qu... : vb69er
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    I never said they havent added any new content : johnny skidmarks
    • True, but what they have released - free - is equivalent to what other companies may brand as 'expansion ... : jwnin
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  Blackwing Lair, Ahn'Qiraj, Naxxramas, Zul'Gurub, Dire Maul, Ahn'Qiraj 20... Seems like they've done enou... : stelth
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    Sure, they've done enough if all you like to do is bash monsters and collect more loot. The game fundamen... : johnny skidmarks
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      Since when do expansion packs have to change fundimentals? EQ and UO had plenty of expansions that were ... : pigvomit
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        Camelot's pay expansions always changed the game. New races with new skills change the game. New skills f... : johnny skidmarks
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          blizzard has changed many skills for many classes over the last 2 years and they have revamped pvp from a... : grendel
          • Reaching? Far more people agree with my assessment of the current pvp implementation than would agree wit... : johnny skidmarks
        • Blizzard has changed and added a LOT of things in WoW: -Added battlegrounds + honor merit system with v... : Nighteyes
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          I'm kind of sick of the defending of Blizzard. Yes, they released a few new dungeons. Big deal. Look... : valael
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            Yeah and the EQ dungeons were garbage. People don't want mega huge dungeons where you are there for 8+ h... : Chod
            • Whether or not you think they sucked is completely and totally irrelevant. The point is, they had tw... : valael
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      What about battlegrounds? A successful (IMO) implementation of PVP in a PVE environment, and a goal-orien... : jwnin
      • I dont know where they're doing more of the same is coming from since I think BC is a radical departure f... : johnny skidmarks
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  blah blah Camelot, blah blah blah. : devi| dog
  • yeah, i never really got into that game. made it to level 30ish and got bored. : pigvomit
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    Congrats on making such an informative post. : johnny skidmarks
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      Man, I don't mean to make a post like this, but it's just ridiculous the posts that get made in here ever... : devi| dog
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        Well, one reason for that is WoW's phenomenal success. Also, a lot of people, myself included, really ... : johnny skidmarks
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          Or they could release it unfinished in November so all of you can come on the forums complaining how its ... : Typo
          • Ironically, numbers dropped in Camelot because of expansions haha. : johnny skidmarks

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• enjoy them? hang out with family/friends? : Smellsy
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  roll a new toon : dodob
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    "character", dammit. >:( : SilverSnake
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      Toon is way easier to type =/ : vault 03
      • If it takes too much effort to type, maybe you just shouldn't type at all. sorry, I just hate the whole : Modulus
• Go out and experience the world... of warcraft. : Rotten Deadite
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  Meet a girl. : gmoney
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    I don't think his wife would like that much. : cltcprd
    • Or maybe she will, if you catch my drift ;) : FlatlineDixay
• Study the myriad wonders of the question mark. : sgtsanity
• Buy Nightfall? : yes4me

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• Ugh... wrong thread.... I still love WoW. : Wolfanoz

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• Same here. I've got to say, despite the added expense of a subscription, I ended up saving a lot of money... : Cognoscenti
• thats a good point, same goes for me : yAak

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  I'm sure in 4 weeks if they pushed hard it could be ready for release. They sure did that last time arou... : lordlobo
  • I don't think they could. No way we could test 3 entire zones in 4 weeks, much less have them push out b... : amankhan
• there are several mobs that don't animate at all right now, and one of them will crash your game client i... : grendel
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  Retail was pretty similar. There was a lot of content not yet in the game when they announced that the be... : d3tached
  • I was in the retail closed beta, and it wasn't this bad. : amankhan

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  You don't really have to know when the game will go gold to know how many boxes you're going to start mak... : Jiven
  • yeah but did they give those numbers to distributors? how can say game store worker straight up tell me ... : nico2
• From the sounds of it, most stores are stopping pre-orders because they themselves have no idea how many ... : d3tached

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• You will need your own key. : Nighteyes

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• your friend lied. The level cap is still 67. Unless they changed it from last night after 12am. I was bom... : Iwannaacura
• stop the lies. you dont have any friends : eb9k

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  Most game developers do not have the luxury to choose when to ship their products. : Jiven
  • Yeah, it's precisely because BC's success is guaranteed that they can afford to miss the holidays. : lechuck59

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• Blizzard doesn't delay games. They increase the quality through extended time before release. =P : glio1337

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  Yeah I'm probably gonna cancel again, level my alts until my account gets frozen and just wait, since rai... : SenorSpine
  • the funny part is that I am FINALLY getting invites. I logged on to do a quick mooncloth with my mage an... : pigvomit
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  Roll a new character and get it ready. The game is always fun. : Wolfanoz
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    What if your new character is supposed to be a blood elf or draenei : johnny skidmarks
    • yeah, the next character I roll will be a shammy or warrior draenei. : pigvomit
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  Start saving the 5k gold required to train in epic flying mount riding. ^_^ : Jiven
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    it comes pretty quick in the expansion, i started with around 400g when i copied my characters over, and ... : grendel
    • What's the avrg. change a normal mob drops at your level? : Jiven

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• argh misreply to #31 : Majuju
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  Vell, joo meets zem and haff food and vine, and zen zugzug. : pigvomit
  • "Stop poking me!" : Majuju

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• i also have some things i'd like to do in the base game. unfortunately members of my guild have other id... : alcueso

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  http://www.shacknews.com/ja.zz?id=13007727 : glio1337
  • Poor poor Mr. Phil. : devi| dog

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• Most dont even know a expansion is coming out! : Lickuright