Microsoft Officially Launches Games for Windows Line

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  Agreed. This may force EA's hand to make their games workable in-turn. : Wolfanoz
  • I doubt it. Plenty of shitty EA games on Xbox and 360 right now that have plenty of issues. Madden 07 spe... : Phreakin
  • At the very least it'll enforce the widescreen options :D : -efx-
• Watch the EU leech some more money from MS (poor bastards someones gotta feed them). : hippolove
• real slick, korban : burgertime

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  I hope you tried the demo first... Running what is about to be a deprecated OS (at least for gaming) you ... : SilverSnake
  • this is the ONLY game that doesn't work on win2k but works in winxp : tomatoactivator
• Probably also doesn't work on Windows 98 or Windows 3.1. : mrwolf710
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  The min system requirements say Win XP or Vista : tbreffni
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    the demo links on fileplanet said win2k, xp : tomatoactivator
    • Well, if fileplanet says so it must be true. : dlr(2)

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  Considering PC is stronger (relative to population) in some markets than it is in the US and considering ... : Chris Remo
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    I second this statement :) : Skyburst101
    • oops...wrong thread. : Skyburst101
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  The European version of CoH also has the GfW branding, although it comes in a DVD box rather than a cardb... : badman
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    Actually isn't the US CoH in a thicker DVD case that's in a cardboard sleeve? : Schnapple
    • I have no idea, I've only seen one picture of it, and it looked like a flip-open cardboard deal. I'm fina... : badman

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• On the iPod. : Ritual-MikeR
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  Games for Linux would be better yet. If I could ditch MS and DirectX for games I would switch OS in a ... : dangerdoggie
  • Which is why MS is spending so much to keep games on Windows : Schnapple
• dude this puts yet another nail in the coffin for mac gaming : Patch-e
• Running on the dual-boot of Windows : ColoradoCNC
• Gaming with Apples ? : hippolove
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  Yeah man, when you pay twice as much as the computer is worth the least you should be able to do is game ... : daggah
  • that argument is so dated, macs are not that expensive anymore : OrkO

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  I'm not a fan of Xbox family d-pads either. : Chris Remo
  • k. I felt like I was beating a dead horse as I've talked a lot about it recently. However, I really REA... : rosewood
• No, mine does the same thing. : AcesnEights
• The dpads on all modern controllers bother me. I think it's just because i have fat fingers but I do the... : Chod
• I like the dpad on the controller-s for the original xbox, but the dpad on the x360 controllers is comple... : OrkO

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  You obviously didn't read anything the article mentioned, did you? : ColoradoCNC
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    I know what the ramifications of the logo are, I'm saying Joe Six-Pack won't. : Kryn
    • But Joe Six-Pack plays on a console. That's what the X360 is for. I think this is a nice idea because i... : silverback1138
• Too bad that STEAM isn't 1. faster and 2. less buggy. : wytefang
• no, not at all, besides the fact that microsoft is throwing a shit ton of money at it. Thats never made : snowwolf
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  Am I the only person who actully enjoys buying a game and then keeping the box...like a collection.. I ha... : nickwallace21
  • Dude, if I could only show you a picture of my collection. Diablo 2 CE, The Jedi Outcast Collector's Tin... : silverback1138

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  What would you call it? : Schnapple
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    Knew that was coming, haha... Really, I have no idea. =( I just think it's a little cut and dry. Very des... : zakazi
    • Yeah, it's not the neatest name but it is simple and gets the point across - plus it emphasizes Windows w... : Schnapple
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  "Windows Games" : Chris Remo
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    haha, would actually feel a bit better for me. =P I'm just thinking of typesetting "Games for Windows... : zakazi
    • Well two things 1) At one point in time, you had to specify what your platform was, so you had "Word ... : Schnapple
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  Well it's not like "Wii" is sexy by any means. LOL : wytefang
  • Actually it typesets beautifully =) but more seriously, Xbox360, Wii, Gamecube and even Playstatio... : zakazi
• Just put "Extreme" and "Hardcore" into the name somewhere like. "Extreme Games for Hardcore Windows". Th... : silverback1138

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  Are you aware of Live Anywhere? : Chris Remo
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    yes, but I haven't seen any serious noise about companies dropping gamespy as their multiplayer support a... : Gauss
    • If this Games for Windows stuff proves to be successful and helpful in getting exposure for developers, t... : Chris Remo
• I agree, this is the best news of all. Hopefully, gamepads on the PC will become ubiquitous and we'll see... : lowpoly
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  Uh, I'm pretty sure the 360 controller would work fine with any game that supports gamepads in Microsoft ... : Arcanum
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    I've had an Xbox pad hooked up to my pc for years, that doesn't mean devs have supported it Unless the... : Gauss
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      Probably the PoP games? Anyway, my point is that, AFAIK, if a game is designed to work with DirectX-su... : Arcanum
      • my xbox pad works just fine in anything I care to set it up in - the problem is that devs DO NOT make the... : Gauss
  • The problem is the developers and the non-standard gamepad designs. The MS gamepad has analog triggers an... : tigeN
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  what? I'm all for having the choice of controller here. What if you can't stand the Xbox360 gamepad? : Bingo
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    I think it's more about getting devs to support gamepads in general. Gotta start somewhere. : lowpoly
    • I hope you're right, that would be much better. After all, many games shouldn't need the be played on the... : Bingo
    • That's not what they're doing, though. They're only forcing support of the 360 controller on games that ... : Arcanum
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  Could we see games support the analog buttons? that would be good. : abrasion
  • agreed. : missylu
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    analog buttons? you mean the triggers, right? all of the other buttons are digital only (unlike the ori... : mattleexbox
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      I beleive that is a rumour going around that's incorrect. : abrasion
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        Check my profile, I kinda know what I'm talking about. Xbox 360 gamepad buttons are digital only (on/off... : mattleexbox
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          That's completely stupid. : abrasion
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            Actually, it makes a lot of sense. The switch used in the analog buttons had some issues where you had... : Ritual-MikeR
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              I never had problems with the ones implimented in the PS2 controller in any way, people have been using t... : abrasion
              • I remember plugging an Xbox1 controller on my pc, with a program to test each button. The analog buttons ... : Bingo
          • Yeah, dropping a feature hardly anyone used is so stupid. lol : ColoradoCNC
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  For the OP, you probably haven't used any Logitech controllers recently. I tried using the X360 controll... : wytefang
  • Logitech RumblePad 2 kicks ass. I've got four of them and they make for some killer FlatOut / FlatOut 2 ... : buroja

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  yes thats what i have been trying to say but people here seem to think this is ms just trying to be evil ... : italiano3d
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    I wonder if Duke Nukem Forever will be certified. : chuck577
    • The game has to be released to be certified, though. : Ride-My-Rocket
• loboca will still find something to cry about, don't worry. : Serpico74
• That's a pretty awesome checklist I have to say. : Johnny Law
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  "The application must handle ALT+TAB, CTRL+ALT+DEL, CTRL+SHIFT+ESC and other task-switching scenarios. Th... : Bingo
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    OMG this is the best thing ever. This list is really good. Any game meeting this list alone is nice. : Chod
    • fec! i use the alt button a lot in games... and i alt-tab out of quite a few of them already :-P maybe i'... : Korban
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  Too bad MS don't have to follow their own rules, If a reboot is required, you must prompt users and allow : Tincan
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    Specifically, this requirement is related to the installer. The only times that I haven't seen Microso... : Ritual-MikeR
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      I'm just complaining about the reboot after an automatic install. If you choose ask later it does really ... : Tincan
      • automatic update that is : Tincan
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        or you just don't answer. That way it never pops up in your face again! : Bingo
        • This solution is better: http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/archives/000294.html : maxmc
• i like the whole 'add/remove programs' thing. too many times, i've tried to uninstall a program and it wa... : Korban
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  this is the old spec. a new branding spec is coming soon. : malloc
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    you can see some of it here I think: http://download.microsoft.com/download/1/7/b/17b95a7b-968a-4a99-8e49... : malloc
    • True, but the new spec is a superset of the old spec. : Ritual-MikeR

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  I don't see how Linux will ever be a useable gaming platform as long as there isn't a dominant distro, or... : Sarcastro
  • Yeah, as much as I'd like to ssee Linux become a viable gaming platform I have a feeling that the chances... : ColoradoCNC
  • SDL/OpenGL isn't a bad target, but there's no financial motivation right now (and may never be). I wis... : Conan

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  srsly I may actually get one now. I cant STAND *ANYTHING* streatched. : trevis
  • I hear you... anything streatched is horrifying. : Bingo
• I was going to come in and say the *exact* same thing. :) (Dell 2407WFP owner.) : daggah
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  holy fucking shit. maybe EA can get with the program now. I am SO glad Microsoft is pushing this. : odin318
  • EA dont even support 1280x1024 (LCD) out of the box when their entire QA auite is using LCD monitors, wha... : Beady
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  Dumb question - I hear some FPS devs not wanting to support widescreen since it "gives players an unfair ... : Schnapple
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    They could either make widescreen players see less up and down and not more sideways (or a combination, s... : SilverSnake
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      Or the competitive crowd could just get widescreen... : daggah
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        Spend more money, that will fix it! : MH Knights
        • I dont remember seeing developers not supporting people with cable modems, versus dial-up. : Beady
        • if they really think they're losing to people because their opponent is using widescreen monitors and not : daggah
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      They could just make aspect ratio a server setting and then black bar it to fit which ever display the cl... : trevis
      • That's... thats a pretty damn good idea. : crummynz
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    widescreen gamers dont have any more of an advantage then players with quad-SLI, 5.1, etc. Counter Strike... : odin318
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      ya the DICE not supporting it because "it's an advantage" is such crap. You can turn off so many detail s : armybob
      • Haha, I'm glad you have seen the light, man :) : rasputinreborn
  • Yes, well mouse usage allows more precision than keyboard only. Should that have been nixed in the begin... : rasputinreborn
• TRU DAT! Gogo widescreen support! /rude @ EA/Dice! : code-e255

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  I know that devs can still support OpenGL if they're in the Games for Windows program (this was specifica... : Chris Remo
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    They have to allow OpenGL or ID software would just release Linux and Mac games instead and then the Wind... : maxmc
    • Though in all honesty I don't know that id's opinion would hold much weight in this arena. I imagine that... : zakazi
• You know, I don't think I've ever read anything comparing OpenGL to DirectX. The only thing I know about ... : Orange Pylon

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• Oh yes. : enyakk
• Totally, way to push a standard too many devs are lagging behind on MS, round of aplause for sure. : node
• Thank god. Should be a standard anyway. : dmaownsyou
• no kidding x64 support is nice too. : intothefray
• that's the one good thing they bury in it to gain support for it all : jrock
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  next thing: Multi-Core Optimized... but that wouldn't come from Microsoft, more from Intel or AMD. At ... : Bingo
  • Yeah, more of that would be nice too. But widescreen & 64bit support is good for now, at least as a stand... : code-e255
• Yeah, me too. I had no idea how thoroughly excellent it was until I got a widescreen monitor and played a... : five_percent

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• Yeah like that will happen.. :) : Tripps

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• SiN Episodes has been branded under Games for Windows at various events. The package branding is only on... : Chris Remo

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• I second this statement : Skyburst101

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  Yeah, I have about eight years of 1990s CGW issues in a box somewhere. : Chris Remo
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    hehe, me too. Think mine date back to 94 or 95 at this point. Started buying them when I got into PC ga... : mrwolf710
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      kinda nice since I have that free one year subscription thanks to QuakeCon - now it will be turned into a... : Schnapple
      • You mean thanks to idGamesforWindowCon. : mrwolf710
  • yeah I finally threw out all my gaming mags from 90-04. My god. It filled up a truck bed. I kept a few... : pigvomit
• The first gaming mag I ever bought was the CGW issue with the Guardian from UVII on the cover - it had a ... : speon
• Just got my new issue of CGW with TF2 on the cover. I wonder if this will be the last CGW? : Schnapple

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• a PC adapter for the 360 wireless controllers is coming out soon : suqur
• The play&charge cable for the wireless 360 controllers only provide charging power, the data is still tra... : SilverSnake

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  What do they do with all those? Automatically select "yes"? : Arcanum
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    EULA - probably will change it to an on-the-package deal. Dunni GameSpy/Xfire - MS has their Live servic... : Schnapple
    • I don't have final packaging on CoH, but I'm going to assume that they have to include the Punkbuster stu... : Gonzo
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  ya know when i installed COH I actually just thought that was ritual being kick ass. i didnt know at the... : smacknca
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    Did you get Relic mistaken for Ritual or did you just hop on the latest meme? http://www.romsteady.net... : Schnapple
    • haha woops yea i meant relic. they all look the same to me :P : smacknca

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  That's in Vista for sure. Since these games are part of that same overall initiative, I would assume tha... : Chris Remo
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    In the Games screen in Vista, if you right-click a title, there's an option for Saved Games. Click on tha... : Gonzo
    • Here's the screen: http://www.flickr.com/photos/willski/246778208 It takes you right to the folder, wh... : Gonzo
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  I think it is part of it http://www.romsteady.net/blog/2006/08/games-im-pro-games-for-windows.html ... : Schnapple
  • Ya. Slightly lame that saves go in a documents folder, but it works I guess. :) : node
• On the topic of centralized config files, just last week or so I was introduced to a new program that onc... : brushbaron
• Save games even now are supposed to be put in your My Docs in XP. And in your user folder in Vista. Hop... : mrwolf710

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• All of the stuff I mentioned works in XP. The only thing in that article that doesn't apply to XP is the... : Chris Remo

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• Yeah, I think that's the Windows Game Advisor on http://www.windowsgaming.com : badman

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• I agree. I think this is great news for the PC gaming community. : baronzemo78