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  It is so much better when hilarity ensues. : Moonbase Commander
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    One website he cited was cplusplussucks.com (which doesn't exist). Some guys in the class with laptops w... : omnova
    • Umm.. yeah. Your professor isn't too bright.' But hey, at least he's a got a job! : Maddog_Delphi97
  • I actually prefer it when antics ensue. : perstephanie
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  lol, is there a way of having a coding showdown? : Maddog_Delphi97
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    uTorrent vs. Azureus : basketofkittens
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      lololol I've never used either one of those... what are they like? All I know that they are torrent c : Maddog_Delphi97
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        Azureus is a great showcase for why Java is stupid for desktop applications. : FushigiDenki
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          Ah, so I'm guessing that uTorrent is much better than Azureus. :] : Maddog_Delphi97
          • Yes. By a margin. : kainen1
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            My gripes with Azureus have little to nothing to do with it being written in Java. I just think the UI i... : omnova
            • Yeah, I noticed that Java isn't as mature as Visual Studio at helping programmers design graphical user i... : Maddog_Delphi97
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  Neither of those are true. Unless he wants to count javascript as java, and they really are two differen... : tedv
  • Regarding performance, I've seen studies on the subject (and done some minor investigations myself). In ... : tedv
• outperwhats? lol no. : cheshirecat
• Certain things when compiled by new java compilers are faster than C++. But the thing is that what you ar... : gameindustryplant
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  Haha, there's a reason why he's teaching and not working a day job coding. : dravalen
  • Also, with that said I have nothing agains Java, it's more about the right tool for the job than which on... : dravalen
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  i can't believe they teach java at universities. that's sad. I talked to a recent graduate of UT @ Austin... : wtf242
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    What does it matter which language they teach programming in? It's a bit like saying "I can't believe the... : Jonathan
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      because java is not used to write OS or AI code? Because programmers should learn to use the right tool f... : wtf242
      • i agree with your statements regarding OS/AI, but for other stuff... java is a good way to go (or c# or s... : El Tigre
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        How many OS courses write a real OS? Java is fine for high-level concepts, across the board. : filtersweep
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          If you take an OS course that does not require you to write any actual OS code then the course is absolut... : Kentor
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            Like a real, booting OS? I can't say I've ever heard of a program where that happens in a semester/quart... : filtersweep
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              You have to write at least some components for things like Nachos. In real-time courses you tend to have... : Kentor
              • I wish we had that. :( : omnova
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              some OS classes will have students make minor changes to the linux kernel. A big part of OS programming i... : wtf242
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                What does it matter if you're using java or C/C++ for threads, sockets (or file descriptors), or semaphor... : qwpeoriu
                • because in the real-world it's never done in java. : wtf242
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                Because Java doesn't have sockets, semaphores, threads, or bytecode. : yonderboy
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                  Okay, tell me how to make any of those constructs you just mentioned on a machine that has no operating s... : Kentor
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                    There's lots of Java microcontrollers. But the point is Java has all these constructs in the API and you... : yonderboy
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                      That's a concurrency course, not OS. : Kentor
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                        When taught as part of a course also involving topics like the theory behind memory management techniques... : Arcanum
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                          He's claiming that you can learn these things with Java. For concurrency, yes, but it is impossible to u... : Kentor
                          • I don't think he ever claimed that. The point of discussion was sockets, semaphores and threads. You can'... : qwpeoriu
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                            You don't have to implement them to learn the theory, and the theory can be useful background knowledge o... : Arcanum
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                              Certainly, but that's not what is being debated. Is Java a good language to learn OS in or not? : Kentor
                              • I have to get going, but I'll check this thread later. : Kentor
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                                It depends what the goals are. Concurrency-related things are by-far the most likely topics students are... : Arcanum
                                • So when would you actually learn about the core operating system details in this course called operating ... : Kentor
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                                Absolutely not. I'm in the same camp with the people that think the bar has been raised way too high for ... : yakz
                                • I agree : Kentor
                    • On the subject of Java hardware: yes, I know, I've used them. The typical microprocessor that supports J... : Kentor
                  • That's not the point of the class in most cases. You're learning about the constructs so you understand ... : Arcanum
            • For my introductory OS course we had to write a file subsystem compatible with Linux in C. : ieGod
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              Shit, I totally mis-intepreted this post. I thought you meant writing the entire OS. :( : filtersweep
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                Well, there are some courses where you write all the basic components of an OS from scratch (i.e. you hav... : Kentor
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                  Right, and I argue that can totally be done in Java. Arguing that it can't is like arguing that you can'... : filtersweep
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                    You do realize that Java calls out to native for most of the constructs that people have mentioned so far... : Kentor
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                      I don't think I'm making my point effectively here. Let me try again: If you're making models, who ca... : filtersweep
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                        Except there are many aspects that cannot be expressed in Java at all. Interrupts and memory management ... : Kentor
                        • You can't write a virtual memory manager or processor in java? : filtersweep
                      • huh? I wrote a simple kernel & libraries & drivers and stuff and I haven't even entered college yet : fluffy64
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      Maybe because it does not make any sense to teach an OS class in a language that cannot be compiled to na... : Kentor
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        You're right there about OSs, but for AI I think it's fine... or most anything else I think it's fine. : FushigiDenki
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          How about DSP? Embedded? Control systems? High voltage? Compilers? There are a lot of things you do ... : Kentor
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            Yea, but dude we're talking about school. If you're a programmer, and you're not learning after hours (b... : FushigiDenki
            • I'm just saying there are many subjects which require system level languages and these subjects have cour... : Kentor
    • True, but java lacks a lot of programming "features". You could equate it to learning how to drive in ... : fookilla
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    I don't see why that's bad at all. It's better than teaching them a completely obsolete language. : FushigiDenki
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      yeah, my dickhead "advisor" in college always had a hard-on for COBOL. Every semester he shouted its prai... : El Tigre
      • i had a professor that was in love with ADA and we spent most of the semester programming in it for progr... : wtf242
  • Actually, the real situation is far more hiliarious than simply Java being taught. The fact is, it isn : omnova
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  A lot a web backends are written in Java, but no where near 90% of web backends are done in Hava, much le... : TroZ
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    exactly. depending on the application java can actually be faster. specifically in long running processes... : -Panther-
    • Yeah, I'm no expert but a friend of mine has decided to write a web app in Java after looking at the vari... : node
    • this is like the only accurate post in this entire thread : kill9
  • There are C++ compilers that can optimize across function boundaries. Intel's compiler does. : electroly
• Hahahahahahahaahahahahah, *inhale*, hahahahahaahahah. : FushigiDenki
• Your professor's full of shit, and I would have called him on it. : walker270
• Performance at that level is meaningless for most code being written. It simply is not a bottleneck unles... : yakz

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• I enjoy the Madden 07 gameplay but I can't believe Microsoft stamped it with the noticeable framerate dro... : dengar65
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  they need to fucking fix mike vick. the fact that he can scramble 20 yards behind the line of scrimmage, : maulla
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    Is he still as insanely fast as he was in '04? That was the last version I played. : pyrogen
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      Yeah, he's not only the fastest QB, but he's one of the fastest guys in the game. You can beat teams with... : johnny skidmarks
      • throw, that is : johnny skidmarks
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    Haha, Vick will never even see a Superbowl unless he goes free agent to back up a SB bound team. Defense : Lunatic Angelic
    • you obviously hate black people AND freedom. GO VICK! : porp
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  Sad part is a lot of people will still buy their broken games. : mancide
  • they need the updated rosters! : nyranger66
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  glad you have seen the light on EA. Ive been done with them since they have a total disregard for the wid... : odin318
  • no shit, *cough* BF2 *cough* : FushigiDenki
• Mythic wasn't wholly consumed by EA. : ThereCanBeOnlyOneCat
• Just buy your Madden games 1 year later. $5.99 madden here we come! : pigvomit
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  I haven't bought Madden 07 yet and I'm hoping the Wii version isn't quite as bad for the fatigue and brok... : melkore
  • actually the broken vick is the more realistic thing in the game! :P : digitalburro
• i agree. how could the developers even release a product that is choppy like that, in the menus and in c... : FrayLo
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  MY RANT: I AM A MADDEN FANBOY. here is my post of sadness..... I love Madden games. This year, I ... : virus
  • Tell us how you really feel :P : c_man_tmt
  • Screen plays don't work in the real NFL very well either, so I'm kinda comfortable with that. It's alway : Lunatic Angelic
  • I have to disagree with the kicking and screen play things. Kicking is fairly easy, but maybe it's just m... : Phreakin
  • Actually, while rb screens are busted, wr screens are almost a guaranteed 20 yard play. Sometimes a sa... : johnny skidmarks
  • wow looks like i need to try out my screens a little more! :P : virus
  • They didn't include Co Op in a football game? That's pretty damn amazing... : thief
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    uhh, the screens are now more powerful than ever, they work just fine. : bling1bling
    • http://www.shacknews.com/ja.zz?id=12773515 i disagree, but ill keep trying. : virus
  • "(and now *only*)" -- That would be why it's going downhill. There is zero competition. Which sucks. ... : mmogger
  • sorry, but i disagree with you entirely on the running game. you have the most command ever, and moves ar... : maulla
• They paid for that exclusive NFL license with their QA budget. I was thinking about getting it for PSP... : Solar Jetman
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  something that really kills the game for me is Hall of Fame players being put into the Free Agency in the... : emocore
  • Yeah, I love that "feature," too :/ : johnny skidmarks
  • i read that you can save a default roster and make that the only roster you use for franchise. is this t... : FrayLo
  • i HATE that also. I deleted my entire profile in order to have a clean roster to start a franchise. : cltcprd
• Heh, it just gets easier to hate Madden every year. EA get lazy with no direct competition? NO WAY. I ... : sevogajre
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  what is this fatigue bug you speak of? : bling1bling
  • there is no fatigue on the 360 version : johnny skidmarks
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  supreme commander is totally gonna 0wn madden :< : sexninja!!!!
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    SC is gonna get shackhyped to all hell, its glaring faults maginfied within days of release, the "shack" ... : boomstickah
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      jesus you just summed up shackhype perfectly. now i'm a little depressed : ^-SeaWolf-^
      • It happens to all of us :( rip SFAC :( : boomstickah

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• Its so fucked up that its practically impossible to adopt a child, yet they will pretty much let any psyc... : theghostofsmdever
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  Lock them in a closet, no food, no water, and images of their son on the wall. : pigvomit
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    throw some feces in there too and IAWTP : tunis5000
    • When it comes to torturous deaths like this one, I tend to favor that those that commited this crime dese... : pigvomit
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  dear god thats horrible! : eb9k
  • they were hoping he'd hatch into a beautiful butterfly : multisync
• I think I'm going to cry at work. Dear lord :( : sharkII
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  involuntary manslaughter? fuck that, thats straight up murder : sexninja!!!!
  • I have a strong feeling they'll amend the charges when evidence comes back. : filtersweep
  • yeah that's really messed up! how is that not murder? : tunis5000
  • They take whatever charge they can get at the time in order to detain people and keep them there without ... : haiku
  • Watch the video, prosecutor said they charged them with involuntary manslaughter quickly to just get thei... : sanchez
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  >:( It's hunting season. >:( : felicia
  • i know, right? I'd so fucking track fuckers like this down : freakord
• Tell me they have the death penalty in Ohio. : stump
• man, i wish i hadn't read that. :( : virus
• You've got to be kidding me! How the fuck is this even possible?! >:-/ : warcrow
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  Those two are going to have a miserable time in Jail. Killing/Molesting/Mutilating kids gets no sympathy ... : haiku
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    I always wondered about this..... its not like the other fuckers in prison are there because the gave bun... : erebus
    • Criminals have kids too. People who mess with kids are going to pay for it extra in jail. : kingdok
    • Just because someone is a criminal doesn't mean they don't have standards. : Arcanum
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      Social hierarchies are everywhere since it's a primal instinct and all. : tomservo
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        I love it when you talk biology. : UtilityMaximizer
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          I LEARNED IT FROM WATCHING YOU! : tomservo
          • I can't stop laughing about this reply. : Bold
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    Give them the chair. : TastyWheat
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      http://garbolator.com/blog/comfy%20chair.jpg : Dechter
      • *applause* : TastyWheat
• They need to bring back fucking hangings for this shit! Or at least bring them in the middle of the stree... : X Fuzion
• I mean, why are you guys so mad...they wanted to go to the family reunion...they have the BEST BBQ at tho... : Saman
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  he should have pulled out his gun like r kelly : SockMonkeh
  • btw they are going to die in prison : SockMonkeh
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  I always wonder when I see things like this..."How did this crazy ass couple even meet?" Even if I was c... : Saman
  • Quick finger and toe count. 12 and 10.5 yup now you know. : erebus
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  dammit. ugh : Slowtreme
  • Not to be morbid, but after reading this I heard of case in BC, where grandparents starved child for 8 ye... : fusionrx
• We need a SpeedPass for executions. In this case, there's no need for a trial, just ammunition. Call it... : Malum
• Yeah I'm against the death penalty. Except in this case. : NastyJack
• CINCINNATI, Ohio (AP)... ...they went to a family reunion in Kentucky... Ooohhhhhhhhhhh..... ok I und... : Rauol Duke

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  So what should I get? : not work safe
  • BMW M3 Coupe (E46) : FPSDavid
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  I don't understand why you would think that AWD wouldn't cooperate with that price point. : Patch-e
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    also, let's get RX-8's together. not gay : Patch-e
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      I have a friend with a new RX-8. He loves it and wishes he had got the manual trasmission as opposed to t... : not work safe
      • I wouldn't be so much against the RX-8 auto if it actually had the same HP output as the manual. However,... : Patch-e
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        The mx-5 would be great, but it only has 170 hp, and you want 200+. Also, if you like the storage cap... : UtilityMaximizer
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          Don't bother bringing up the WRX around him. : EvilDolemite
          • Oh. Okay, never mind. I don't think there are any other cars with more than 200 horsepower are under ... : UtilityMaximizer
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  If you're looking to spend that much I'm sure you could find AWD, particularly as you seem to be looking ... : Chris Remo
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    true, i do like the audi tt. : not work safe
    • No you don't. : Reeves
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  Scrounge up some more and get an Infiniti G35 coupe. I test drove it earlier this summer and now I'm get... : arizona bay
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    How does one afford a 30k car by working at Banana Republic? What am I doing wrong here :( : Patch-e
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      I'm in my last year of college, I'm just working part time for a discount at Banana, and my parents are l... : arizona bay
      • At least I know it's not something I have done.. I was just born into the wrong family apparently :) : Patch-e
  • I have another friend who has the G35. Its definately fast but I dont like the styling. There are definat... : not work safe
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  http://www.shacknews.com/ja.zz?id=12768419 : filtersweep
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    yes! but after driving a friends chipped m-coupe i'd definately kill myself after a week. oh that woul... : not work safe
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      Ok, get an older miata and put 5k worth of boost and supension upgrades into it. : filtersweep
      • Go on... : not work safe
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      Shit, you could probably find a boxster for that price, too. You goddamned fanboy. : filtersweep
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        Actually, a used Boxster S is my only serious interest right now. : not work safe
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          The S2000 performs better and costs less. X_X : Patch-e
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            Top Gear would disagree with you (power lap times): 47. 1:28.7 – Porsche Boxster S ... : digitalburro
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              oh bugger all...nevermind, the s2000 was a wet time : digitalburro
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                If the rsx-s 06 wasn't a collectors I'd have looked at a used s2000, they're slick cars. : ellipticalgrey
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                  If the rsx-s 06 wasn't a collectors What. Are you trying to say it is a collectors car because they ce... : Patch-e
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                    Orly? It's a totally different car than any previous year in many respects, look it up. : ellipticalgrey
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                      lol trust me, I know my Integra's It is not a collectors car. : Patch-e
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                        Cute, you even call it an Integra when it's really a Civic! What do you know Mr. Smaerty Face? : ellipticalgrey
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                          ORLY? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acura_RSX The Acura RSX is an automobile sold by Honda Motor Corpo : digitalburro
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                            The very next sentence! "This new chassis would also be shared with the 2006 Civic." : ellipticalgrey
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                              that doesn't mean it's a fucking civic. The mazda 3, volvo s40, and euro focus share 40% of the same part... : sigpro
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                                The 06 rsx-s is the almost exact same car as a civic si, only the si has lds and ugly body trim. : ellipticalgrey
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                                  The Integra has ALWAYS shared parts/chassis' with the Civic. This is nothing new for the RSX models. : Patch-e
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                                    sharing parts & chassis is common in most automotive circles. honda shares across honda & acura lines ... : digitalburro
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                                      The RXS-S 06 is the same car as the 06 Si... with LDS on the SI... I don't see why you're being stupid. : ellipticalgrey
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                                        If anything the 06 Si is "borrowing" from the RSX/Integra due to that platform being the first to debut t... : Patch-e
                                        • No, it's a direct translation in a different shell. They made some minor improvements so people would act... : ellipticalgrey
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                                        you're completely right! why didn't I see it before?!?! rsx interior: http://www.statikdesign.com/scr... : digitalburro
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                                          HAHAHA YOUS GOT ME! If you put a pancake on a bunny, as a hat, it dosen't matter what color the bunny ... : ellipticalgrey
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                                            I don't even know wtf you are trying to prove. They have always shared parts, but never are they consi... : Patch-e
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                                              patch-e, it's not worth it. Let me direct you here: http://www.shacknews.com/ja.zz?id=12644295 See... : filtersweep
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                                                lol that's too bad. I might be a huge Integra fanboy, but at least I know it's place against it's supe... : Patch-e
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                                                  Can't you two stop making fun of my small penis? : ellipticalgrey
                                                  • Shut up, god damnit everyone hates you! : ellipticalgrey
                                              • Yeah, Douchebag IS my middle name, it's been a rough life. : ellipticalgrey
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                                              You started the argument by claiming a car based off the Integra couldn't possiably ever be a collectors.... : ellipticalgrey
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                                                A low end car of a brand's model line up that you can still buy new off a dealers lot ffs, is not a colle : Patch-e
                                                • Type R's... sniff... : ellipticalgrey
                                      • the acura found Jesus? : sigpro
                                  • Agreed, but you called me a troll not the other way around. : ellipticalgrey
                                • and if you look at it from the side it looks like a 95-01 integra with a little different rear end, and a... : sigpro
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                              So a VW Beetle IS a VW Golf? a PT Cruiser IS a Neon? Same parts doesn't make it the same car does it? : Zakko
                              • So a hyperbolic bad analogy compared to a rock solid one equals logic, yes? When the only difference is i... : ellipticalgrey
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                          heh, I give up trying to deal with an obvious troll :[ : Patch-e
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                            The car IS a collectors but I was joking with you since you obviously are taking this seriously. Too seri... : ellipticalgrey
                            • srsly it is not a collectors car. it is the end car of one of the most impressive and influential import ... : Patch-e
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              ask Top Gear which car they like better : Patch-e
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                If I remember correctly, there were 3 cars involved in the test, the Boxster S, z4, and S2000 and each of... : digitalburro
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                  Clarkson absolutely loves the S2000. : Patch-e
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                    Ya, be he's not always right. He complained about the new Z06 as being too wide to use as a daily car, w : action roommate
                    • OH DON'T GET ME STARTED ON HIS Z06 REVIEW : digitalburro
                • I believe 5th gear favors the boxster as their favorite sports car. I think they actually gave it some k... : DinK
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            Yeah but the S2000 is still a Honda. : not work safe
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              All the more reason to buy it over a Porsche! Hey if you don't want good suggestions for a great way t... : Patch-e
              • Porsche > Honda German > Japanese This is simple. : cltcprd
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                Hey the s2000 is probably a great car, but I'm just not into Japanese styling. : not work safe
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                  In addition, I love mid-engine cars. : not work safe
                  • and there is nothing wrong with that.. you just didn't indicate so in your first post :) : Patch-e
                  • the S2000 is technically a mid-engined car :) : warpdude
      • yeah an 01-02 could be found around 20-28 : sigpro
• how 'bout a s2000? : Xhost
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  Pontiac GTO, styling a bit iffy but a complete monster underneath. : Durandal07
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    oh, not american. : not work safe
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      It isn't American its Australian. : Durandal07
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        and no longer being made so it's moot. : Fyunch Click
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          Holden (the makers of the Monaro aka GTO) actually have a brand new model out: http://www.jalopnik.co... : digitalburro
          • Pfff. It's not a Judge. Non-starter. : Fyunch Click
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        It's also limited to 147... oh and I believe they're autos? Other than those two little details... : ellipticalgrey
        • If they are all autos why is there a manual in mine? The production numbers, riightt.. http://www.ls1gt... : Durandal07
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          because you'll be going over 147 all the time, am i rite? : FormerHPB
          • Ay mate get cher dingo in my kar! : ellipticalgrey
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  jet powered rickshaw : Downforce
  • 2-door only. : EvilDolemite
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  GTI if you can afford it, Rabbit if you can't. both relatively quick for the money and solidly built (th... : Postal
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    Yeah I really do like the mk5 gti and rabbit, and the rabbit next year is going to have a chrome front li... : not work safe
    • the Rabbit doesn't have a chrome front! you might be thinking of the Golf R32, which is the GTI using a ... : Postal
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  RWD, 200hp+ 2-seaters for 20k: 350Z S2000 (used) (not 200hp, but close and very high-revving) : snagger
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    (not 200hp, but close and very high-revving) I don't understand the last part? They are well over 200h... : Patch-e
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      240hp spec'd. 2.2l 2000-2003 models (vs the 2.0l 2004+s) make a little more than that on dynos after fact... : warpdude
      • fuck i meant the 2004+ models were the ones with the 2.2l engine : warpdude
      • no shit, but who goes around rating prospective cars they are going to buy by what they put at the wheels... : Patch-e
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  Just get a 06 or 07 Mustang GT convertible, who cares if its not a 2 seater! Most 2 seaters are anemic i... : nukewinter
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    Oops, sorry I didnt notice your price point :< MX-5 miata is the only way to go then. : nukewinter
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      But he wants more than 200 horsepower, and elsewhere in the thread he says he doesn't like Japanese styli... : UtilityMaximizer
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        Who pays sticker price anyway? : nukewinter
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          That's true, the Base Model mx-5 has an invoice just under $20,000. But no 6-speed unless he steps up to ... : UtilityMaximizer
          • For some reason when he said 2 seater I automatically assumed convertible :( : nukewinter
      • Under 20k, 2 seater, over 200hp isn't even possible with an american car and certainly not european car! ... : nukewinter
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  Unless you have money to throw away, a new car is retarded. And in your case it seems like it'd be doubl... : rasputinreborn
  • 1.) I love cars 2.) I wouldn't buy a brand new car off the lot. I'll be looking to buy a used car probab... : not work safe
  • This isn't really true. Compare how long you could (if you KEEP It) keep a new car, vs a used car. You ... : nukewinter
  • I had a 2000 Focus that was starting to have problems. I was paying $230 a month for it, and had over a y... : Ctrl-Phreak