Blizzard Hiring for RTS

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  I wouldn't say either of those "redefined the RTS genre". : Arcanum
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    but they did, both of those features are standard in pretty much all RTS games nowadays : edge198
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      Standard features aren't the same as redefining the genre. To redefine the genre, you have to fundamenta... : Arcanum
      • WTF? Are you nuts? Warcraft 2 had two races -- humans and green humans. Starcraft was the first game... : walker270
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        Actually, it did redefine gameplay....all those did (you kinda said it yourself too). Are you telling me ... : warcrow
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          There seem to be a few main branches of the RTS history at the moment: The Warcraft branch, the Age of E... : Arcanum
          • Also, release dates: Warcraft - 1994 Warcraft 2 - 1995 Command and Conquer - 1995 Red Alert - 1996 A... : Arcanum
          • Don't forget Homeworld foo. That spawned it's own genre within RTS and it was followed by Haegemonia, ... : pebui
          • There are also the Total Annihilation and Total War categories...which despite the similar names are as d... : Vorlonesque
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            Where's my Dawn of War Lovin'? : famine101
            • Where's da Trukk?! Why am I still walking?! : Eej
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      Since the first RTS, Dune2 had 3 races to choose from.... no, not really. Blizzard excells at polish, ... : tomatoactivator
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        ^^^^ This man is saying what I have been saying for years. I agree (and no pollish is not a bad thing peo... : mordaken
        • its what I love about Blizzard, the extra time they spend to make things right and fun is well worth it. : tomatoactivator
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        Dune definetly did not have 3 races. They had 3 teams each with a special weapon that was almost totally... : GreenCrescent
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          3 playable sides to choose from, each with unique building and unit and story. Whatever the case, the wor... : tomatoactivator
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            Having 3 near identical sides is nothing comapred to what Blizzard did with starcraft. Rather than ha... : gndagger
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              C&C as well as C&C Red Alert came out after Warcraft 2 but before StarCraft. What did they both feature... : Eej
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                Neither of those games offer much in the way of asymmetry except for unit or two... Which makes it as abo... : gndagger
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                  Allies: Apache Longbow APC Artillery Cruiser Destroyer Gunboat Light Tank Medic Medium Tank Mob... : Eej
                  • I enjoyed Red Alert so much and it was amazing how differently each side played. For example, the Allies ... : pebui
                  • None the less, both sides played and built up in the exact same way. Starcraft, to my knowledge, was the ... : Vincent Grayson
• Not to mention the heroes system came before WC3 in Battle Cry, and The multiple races, well that is poss... : mordaken
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  ummm starcraft had 3 races : Jayx77
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    -5 reading comprehension. : reverend~heresy
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      "breaking the norm from just 2 races" minus what? : Jayx77
      • BREAKING THE NORM FROM 2 RACES MEANS ADDING A THIRD! : abrasion
• Blizzard make the RTS more of an arcade game, I'm not putting them down because they do it quite well. : yourname00
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  This is one of the things that seriously pissed me off about WC3. Don't get me wrong, it's a frigging gre : Daggoth
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    You should try playing DOTA (war3 mod). Not quite what blizz was originally talking about but its got muc... : scatti
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      SP or MP? is it good? : abrasion
      • multiplayer only... its popular and I can see why people like it. But its frusterating because A) its har... : scatti
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        It's a multiplayer map for Warcraft 3: TFT. If you click jump onto USEast and click "Custom Games" I thi... : Eej
        • I better not try it, sounds fun and time consuming. : abrasion
  • ...and still, it's in my top 3 favorite games i've ever played. : Pneum0
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  Blizzard has not made anything new or innovative for a while. They are INCREDIBLE at polish, but new and ... : Rice-Rocketeer
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    Battle.net....a free on-line service.... : warcrow
    • ...for a while... : Rice-Rocketeer

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• MY LIFE FOR AIUR!! : askedrelic
• En Taro Adun! : TPSReport
• MY WIFE FOR HIRE : [7]kami
• En taro Tassadar! : famine101
• NEED A LIGHT? : Angry Max
• STRAP YOURSELVES IN, BOYS! : code-e255
• *beep... beep* : riptyde
• "Gimme somethin' to shoot." You all forgot the best line :( : Omaha
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  by the by, bye bye bye. : Dan 101
  • I'm doing this tonight, it's prob'ly gonna start a fight! : wwonderboy334
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  In the pipe five by five. : Chod
  • STOP JILL! DONT OPEN THAT DOOR! : Angry Max
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    I hate to be an anal Aliens bastard fan, but it's, "We're in the pipe....5,5,5." : warcrow
    • Are you sure? I'm certain it's 5 by 5. : DingoStoleMyBaby
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      Ferro: [as dropship enters atmosphere] We're in the pipe, five by five. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0... : brickmatt
      • Correct. Old military jargon. : Jiven
    • wrong: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_by_five : gndagger
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  "I hear the Fighters Guild is look'n for a few recruits if you got the stones for it." : warcrow
  • haha... this is becoming a classic. : TPSReport
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    "THANK GOD FOR COOOLD FUSION" : skitzo
    • I got yer zerg right here. heh heh : Chod
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• "GOT A PRESENT FOR YA!" : warcrow
• WE'RE IN FOR SOME CHOP. : downrightevil
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  “...you, the master of unlocking, take it with you.” I love SC. : godhatingatheist
  • Where does it hurt? : Eej
• Locked and loaded. : walker270
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  Khassar de Templari. : kainen1
  • I heed thy call. It shall be done. My path is set. : kainen1
• Sjin tak'a zoi'... : Jiven
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  • actually, it's "now reap the whirlwind" but close 'nuff (; : shyguy74
• RAWRAWRAWRAWARAr : a176
• We don't run this place, but we have an understanding with the people who do. : pebui
• lets BUUURNN : tomatoactivator
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• It's a zerglin' Lester. Smaller type a' zerg. They wouldn't be out here unless... Oh Sheit. : famine101
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  Blizzard said that They're done with 2D games, Warcraft 3 being the first game they've done that uses 3D ... : volitionism
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    That really sucks then, and I don't agree. I'd like to see a popular franchise like SC put it to the tes... : kainen1
    • There is no reason to do convention 2d in anything if you are refering to the actual technology for drawi... : Chod
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      Actually, it would probably double the dev time. Animating 2D pixel art is infinitely more difficult and ... : dewdman
      • They don't "animate pixel art". Even for StarCraft they used high res 3d models, animated them, and then ... : downrightevil
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      What's your beef with 3D? There's no gameplay difference between 2D and 3D. Warcraft III, and nearly ever... : code-e255
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        You are correct, and I think it's really unfortunate. Hardly any games really take advantage of 3D terra... : Arcanum
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          Well, RTS games do sometimes make use of it a little bit. View and projectile distances are sometimes lon... : code-e255
          • It can make a big difference if the game actually makes use of it properly. In Total Annihilation, for : Arcanum
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      I don't think anyone "jockeys" the camera in Warcraft 3. In fact, it plays almost exactly like a 2D game... : PUPSTAHS
      • 3D is infinitely more readable and uncluttered then 2D. It's like playing with miniatures on a table, and... : SpaecKow
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  agreed. warcraft III feels too zoomed in. I hope they don't sacrifice the view for prettier 3d graphics. : downrightevil
  • That's because it's... zoomed in. In comparison to StarCraft. 3D doesn't mean that you have to have a... : SpaecKow
• "2D in 3D" for the win. : Omaha
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  I hope it's the War 3 engine, seriously updated with higher polygon / detailed units etc etc. : abrasion
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    and support for like 200 units... I miss the massiveness of Starcraft. : tomatoactivator
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      I dunno, War 3 had much more poweful units with different abilities and buffs and debuffs and crazy shit,... : abrasion
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        Dude SC is not at all dopey. What the fuck. SC is fucking harder to play then War3. : SpaecKow
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          I didn't directly say SC is dopey, more managing a huge "mass" army of basic units is generally quite clu... : abrasion
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            Which games are these that don't have important special ability units? : SpaecKow
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              Some of the C&C games. Either way SC's units are substantially less complex than War 3, which is to be... : abrasion
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                I do believe that WC3 actually involves less micro (partly because the interface is better). Like for exa... : SpaecKow
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                  I love LOVE <3 the management system of War 3 - it's ULTRA slick, especially command queing - a game with... : abrasion
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                    Where do you get your replays? I keep finding shitty stuff that requires special maps and wierd versions ... : SpaecKow
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                      oh dude, i'm out of the loop, i was watching replays 2.5 years ago, when tillerman played War 3 instead o... : abrasion
                      • Thanks ur hot. : SpaecKow
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                        Current hot shit replay sites: http://www.replayers.com/ http://www.wcreplays.com/ And my little w... : scatti
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                          "The trick is only using the empale at the end of fights to catch runners. Anyways, lots of good stuff in... : abrasion
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                            TFT is just the bee's knees. I love the player built shops (great new items) and the nuetral heroes. They... : scatti
                            • I'm still at the overwhelm stage, that's the problem :( I'm giong to finish the SP campaign, in hindsi... : abrasion
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                  I think "less" is the wrong word... I'd say micro is more forgiving in war3. Saying it has less micro see... : scatti
                  • More forgiving, I'd agree with that, cool. : SpaecKow
          • I completely disagree with you. Managing a mass of units, each with different abilities (and when you ... : Rice-Rocketeer
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    I disliked Warcraft 3 for almost all of the reasons you list. I never got into the art style. It seemed..... : Ratsofatsorat
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      Then play Civilisation or umm that other one? Rise of Empires? Age of Empires. Also they can always ... : abrasion
      • What? Why would you suggest Civilization based on what I said? I love Starcraft. : Ratsofatsorat
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      yep, those are totally more reasons why I didn't like it. It tried to propel too much story and centrify... : kainen1
      • it felt like i was babysitting my hero all the time. NO don't go there. Dont attack that. Where... : tomatoactivator
  • In WCIII the gameplay/design is good - i just find it stale, annoying, boring and just plain not fun : hodapp

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  The company that made the best RTS of all time has to compete with a game that hasn't come out yet? I... : Ratsofatsorat
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    Blizzard didn't make Total Annihilation... Not sure what you getting at. : cosmicc
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      Let me clear it up- he said the best RTS game. Not the one maybe 1,000 people even still play. : gnoleb
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        best isn't always most popular, and C&C is the best : cncpun
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          Best is either most popular or highest rated. Otherwise it is just your favorite. : gnoleb
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            WTF? Stupidest thing I've ever read. "Best" is what I think is best. If not, I rate TA "The Best... : cosmicc
            • That isn't even coherent english. Try owning a book on grammar, first. : gnoleb
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            bingo. TA is great. TA is not better than StarCraft. If it was, then there would be tens of thousands of ... : downrightevil
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              So popularity automatically makes something good? : Arcanum
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                No, not necessarily. But in terms of video games, it's pretty accurate. I think exposure plays a large ro... : downrightevil
                • *Denying that StarCraft is brilliant is just plain ignorance. : downrightevil
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                  So it applies to games, but not other things? Can you support that? : Arcanum
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                    Yes. Things are perceived differently. You don't rate scientific discoveries by popularity or ratings, do... : gnoleb
                    • Ratings and popularity are two completely different things. Popularity is a lousy measure for a multip... : Arcanum
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                    This subthread needs to die If you want to objectively rate a game as "best" you should look at objec... : scatti
                    • And what do we call something that is preferred above all others in the english language? Favorite. Th... : gnoleb
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                    Most people will just choose what is accepted as "cool", or what is pushed the most by marketing. Music f... : downrightevil
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                      http://www.shacknews.com/ja.zz?id=12613162 : Arcanum
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                        Ya, you're right. I think we're kind of arguing two different things here. When I say StarCraft is better... : downrightevil
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                          *shrug* I don't think it matters for a multiplayer game. People who like them will, for the most part, ... : Arcanum
                          • mmmmmm... while that's true to some degree, if a game is trully better, then people will switch. : downrightevil
                • I'd take any C&C game over both, except Tiberian Sun. : Mad Brahmin Disease
            • So Chinese is better than other languages? China is the best country to live in? Sims is more popular... : cosmicc
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            So 50 Cent is one of the best musicians ever because he's really popular right now? : Mecha Tofu Pirate
            • This logic also would entail that 50 Cent's Bulletproof > Psychonauts. There you go - if you needed an... : crummynz
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              No, but he's one of the best recording artists. : gnoleb
              • Interesting. If someone said that to me with a straight face, I'd have a hard to stopping myself from fal... : jayacheess
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                And the difference is? : Arcanum
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                  Rating people who sell albums vs people who play instruments (musicians). If he sells a lot of albums... : gnoleb
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                    Yes, but he's also a musician (he makes music). : Arcanum
                    • I already defined that I would not say he was one of the best musicians. : gnoleb
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            By that system China is the best country : Neech
            • Way to take it out of context, chief. : gnoleb
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      He didn't say they did he said the best RTS. : carazy
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        I'm confused. I thought you were all talking about Dune 2 :[ : DingoStoleMyBaby
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          lolz that game was fun, but yeah starcraft is definitely the best RTS ever. : datoo
          • I gotta second Dune 2. That was an awesome game and I still play it once in a while. : retardhumper
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            I've yet to hear a good argument for why Starcraft is better than Warcraft 3. Warcraft seems just as bal... : PUPSTAHS
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              Trying to objectively compare the gameplay to determine which is best (as opposed to sales, critical accl... : scatti
              • Thank you for putting it so eloquently. As an obsessed StarCraft fan, who prefers the StarCraft style RTS... : downrightevil
    • I have played a lot of RTS, and on my list of favorites, WC2 is the only Blizzard that shows up. This is ... : mordaken
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  Blizzard's RTS games are very different from TA / Supreme Commander. I'd play both, Supreme Commander an... : code-e255
  • You mean the One RTS that had heroes and special abilities? I suppose StarCraft had heroes in it's sin... : famine101
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    SC was about tactics. TA was about strategy. There is no reason to compare the two games. Better to pl... : riptyde
    • Tac-tics 1. The military science that deals with securing objectives set by strategy. They take two ... : Ratsofatsorat
• Already did. Called Starcraft and it is the best RTS ever. Bar none. : [7]kami
• hahahahahahahahaha so dumb : jedi_27