World of Warcraft: The Burning Crusade Classes Revealed

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• probably the only ones saying "YESSS" are those who think Alliance needs mail wearing caster-melee hybrid... : yuried
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  Shaman have some nice things to offer. Tremor totem for group fear control, Windfury totem for DPS boosti... : bad_fish
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    Windfury will be nerfed in to oblivion by that time. : Crimsonbeak
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      It already is next patch, making grace of air a better option for all melee classes. Really having playe... : dmaownsyou
      • Its not being nerfed. Blizz said the devs decided not to change the WF totem. : johnny skidmarks
  • lol@Tremor totem used for anything besides breaking sleeps. Never actually tried using one before, have ... : Eej

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• Impossible - gazillion HP raid bosses need 100 dps one-handers, +666 spell damage items et al., no matter... : yuried
• They'll save new classes for another Expansion. : jhof
• actually, dwarves had mages before release, iirc : RikiTiki2

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  Once warhammer comes out im switching. : skitzo
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    by then WoW will prolly have two more expansions ;) seriously, way too long until new decent MMOs come... : yuried
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      lol blizzard design 2 more expansions in under 2 years? doubtfully. : italiano3d
      • Yeah, they just have to add runes, underwater mounts, and 2 more races pandas and naga. : skitzo
• If I hadn't already quit and deleted my shaman, this would have been the last straw personally. : daggah

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  well, all the already released media of Draenei are paladins : RikiTiki2
  • In-game stuff? If so, doh! Replace mage with paladin. : Arcanum
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  You don't think the BE will also have the Priest class? : Kaiser
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    They don't feel very priestly. They might, with the bit about stealing the power of the Light. : Arcanum
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      they'd probably keep the high elven priest since that was in War3 : RikiTiki2
      • These elves have changed quite a bit from War3, though. : Arcanum
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      Well, they don't feel very Paladiny either, but that's not stopping Blizzard. :( : Kaiser
      • I can see some logic in the paladin. For the BE paladin it's very much a cynical exploitation of the pow... : Arcanum
• BE will be priests, and will have a fear ward ability. Or they will make it so Tauren can be priests to ... : Crimsonbeak
• No predictions needed, they've already annonced them. Blood Elves * Mage * Priest * War... : tree8

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• omg plz srsly wtf shammy pally lol : tigeN
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  As far as I know, Grom died for the Orcs and the Orcs only. The Horde now has been made up of other races... : volitionism
  • He has a point but blizzard doesn't care. Neither will the gamers who won't accept blizzard of old is fai... : italiano3d
• hoookaaaaay..../steps away slowly : -efx-
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  so thats what one of those RP servers is like . . . : jedi_27
  • No, not at all. : johnny skidmarks
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  You believe they left voluntarily? : Avatar
  • they did leave voluntarily : italiano3d
• WoW is serious business, lol! : johnny skidmarks
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  Dude join gcr, pvp Mal'Ganis your are another orc, that's for sure. >:) : DM7
  • more like a lover or the lore amirite :) needs more new axes amirite :p : creep
• Ugh... Pawadins are TUPID!@ : tension

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• There is 1 or 2 40 mans in the expansion. As tigole clearly stated, the 5 and 10 man content is geared to... : italiano3d

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  How is a 50 yard raid-wide totem different from a buff you cast on each raid member? The answer to you... : Avatar
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    sorry, this is BS - the roles of shamans and paladins have not changed at all, this does "fix" the probl... : yuried
    • It gives them the ability to change the classes in the future to be less alike. : Avatar
• HI2ALCUESO : freakord
• because they wanted shaman to be different from paladins : grendel

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  huh? : pyide
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    Adding yet another class to each side means that the options of loot to drop goes up meaning increased ti... : bad_fish
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      doesn't that stuff already drop regardless? i've seen lots of pally gear drop doing instances as horde. : pyide
      • at least now people will be able to use it. : pyide
      • No. If you are alliance and you are running Molten Core or BWL, Shaman specific gear will not drop. Same ... : bad_fish
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        well now that it will, does it really matter that much? once the expansion comes, people will probably be... : pyide
        • misreply but idk what im talking about probably., : pyide
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        class-specific epics don't - loot-tables for horde raids don't include pally-only stuff, same with allian... : yuried
        • The main thing I was thinking of is guilds who are just starting MC or BWL will have this gear dropping f... : bad_fish
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  In AQ40, Naxx, and beyond, loot is distributed as mutli-class tokens. This is no longer a problem. : Avatar
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    Link to said token system? : bad_fish
    • the drops are stuff like this http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=22370 which you have to tur... : pyide
    • http://thottbot.com/index.cgi?i=53731 eg. - you should be able to figure it out yourself based on that : yuried
• Then it will DE'd. Problem solved. : johnny skidmarks

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• No, it just makes no point of rolling Horde now, and vice versa. : DM7
• it's more like "WTF FIRST WE GET ELVEN BITCHES WE CAN'T KILL AND NOW THOSE FUCKING WARRIORS OF GODDAMN LI... : AbortedFetusChristi
• Shaman arent overpowered. We'll, the were, but that was before Blizz started rolling out the phat loot. N... : johnny skidmarks
• You're making a major logical error here. When you say somebody whine and moan about something on an Inte... : FlatlineDixay
• I'm pissed over the lack of originality being presented by blizzard on this expansion. : skitzo
• It's more, now it'll be EZ Mode Horde now not that I wanna share my DPS Plate drops with dumb Paladins... : jackomack
• I sure as fuck don't care. Let the Alliance have Shamans for PVP and 5 mans. : slax0r

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  http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&safe=off&q=shaman+video+%2B+unbreakable&btnG=Search this one? : yuried
  • Gah, I'm an idiot and was just searching YouTube : Kaiser
• heh I was in Warsong with an epicc'd out shaman, he was lightning shocking people for 1500+, highest hit ... : judge
• Unbreakable was on my server (at least, the one I used to play on)...and as a shaman he was a total newb.... : daggah
• what baffles me most is how a PVP spec'd shaman gets his grubby little hands on sulfuras, hand of ragnaro... : AbortedFetusChristi

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• same here. : pheral
• hahaha same here!!! I even clicked around the websites to make sure it was the actual worldofwarcraft.com... : jedi_27

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  Except for PVP, of course. : deveus1
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    Why, because of racials? Bleh, those are so minor compared to an entire class. : aggressor
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      ^^ This guy is horde. You try fighting a pally with AOE silence and see how enthused you are. In comp... : deveus1
      • ^^perception, fear ward. etc. : creep
      • As an alliance warlock, the undeads ability to break fear and be immune to it for a few seconds later pre... : crinos

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  Why exactly? This is the sort of game-balancing that ultimately just makes the game bland and irons out t... : -efx-
  • I agree, this expansion is a travesty. You have cutesy elves on the horde side, beasty dudes on alliance-... : Simulacrum
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    What do the differences matter in what is essentially a pve game? Its pretty apparent that raid level pve... : johnny skidmarks
    • Preach it brother. I wish the pvp in WARcraft was better. :( They promised us seige weapons right after t... : DM7
  • A unique class is not the only thing that made the factions unique. I still wouldn't roll an alliance if ... : mmogger

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• eh... what is WOW already? : yes4me

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  Priests are holy too. So explain Undead Priests. :( If you can explain that, then you can explain how ... : volitionism
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    Undead priests make sense as the Undead came from Humans and priests also have a dark side (shadow form/d... : godwit
    • You're right. Your statement stands. That doesn't make any fucking sense. : volitionism
    • Come to think of it, what's the lore on the priests' dark powers? When I was shadow-specced, I felt mo... : Vincent Grayson

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  I'm inclined to agree, having a totally new class for both sides to use would have been better I think. T... : DM7
  • It's a cop-out due to balancing issues. It'd just add that much more headache to have a couple of new cla... : -efx-
• Ya I don't mind as much as you do except that for end game raids Shammies are gimp'd compared to pallies ... : iplay
• welcome to blizzard after all the real blizzard employees left. Sigh. Just wonder how long it will take f... : italiano3d
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  Vice-versa with Alliance. We'll have to take less paladins on raids so we can also get the shammy buffs. ... : godwit
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    why would you take less palis for shammy buffs? I'm at a loss here? I have a 60 paly and a 60 shammy. Goo... : italiano3d
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      Because you could then give certain classes paladin AND shammy buffs at the same time. Paladin buffs may ... : godwit
      • shammy buffs don't always stack with other buffs. You would have to pick and chose, basically, and could ... : italiano3d
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  should be the best of all worlds if they include lower-capped dungeons AND some new uber bosses with HIGH... : Downforce
  • So figuratively speaking, to fix the problems they have with people rushing, they opted to give Zerglings... : yuried
• Seriously--the expansion is looking more and more lame (to me) as they release information on it. I'm gl... : metralgia
• agree what a total bs copout : judge

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• They did a pretty good job in the Priest revamp. : BrodaQD

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• oh but there's jewelcrafting! arn't you excited about that? : deathofrats
• They'll save new classes for a Class adding Expansion. Gota' pace out the goods. Then next a PvP adding ... : Jiven

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  horde is bitching that pallies are overpowered (in raids) for quite a while, and this seems to be Blizzar... : yuried
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    stupid typos :D : yuried
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      Same. I meant to say alliance shamen, implying that the other faction won't know how to deal with these ... : walker270
      • of course the horde will be annoyed that suddenly there's gonna be shamans on the other side harassing th... : yuried
• Alliance paladins shamen. Bleh. : walker270

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  The class is broken because it has no clear defined role does not compute. shamans and druids are pissed... : AbortedFetusChristi
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    Wait, Pallies have a multitude of roles in end-game other than Healing and Providing Mana? Name one. : deveus1
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      Pulling with their bubble. : Porkasaurus
      • I almost thought you were serious there for a second, heh : deveus1
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      from what I have heard from a paladin friend (yeah, that's quite the irony, but I met him when he played : AbortedFetusChristi
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        Well, by that same argument, druids and priests have no right to complain either, since they can DPS, tan... : deveus1
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          and shamans? heal and drop totems. Just their totems < pally auras, and their heals < pally heals. Also t... : yuried
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            that was pretty well said. I only disagree with the healing part in that our nature's swiftness is pretty : AbortedFetusChristi
            • oh wait, lay on hands... disregard. : AbortedFetusChristi
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            Noone's trying to argue that this isn't a shitty solution or that pally buffs aren't superior to Shaman b... : deveus1
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              ah I was just replying because I think too many people don't realize that shamans are little more than in... : yuried
              • Yeah, shammies are gonna lose spots because of this, no doubt about it. You'll want 3-4 Paladins for bles... : deveus1
        • well, I see all three of the (horde) healing classes as having their use. priests are great for healing M... : AbortedFetusChristi
• Paladins, although mindnumbing boring to play, are very useful in end-game raids. Their buffs and judgeme... : godwit

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  Well it doesn't always have to be good versus evil. Why can't it just be a war between two factions? : aggressor
  • It can, if those factions have strong enough conflicting goals and ideologies. I don't see how the ho... : gnoleb
• well, 2/5 of the horde is evil : RikiTiki2
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  The interesting part about the Horde is that it isn't inherently evil (except for the undead, and now the... : Arcanum
  • Isn't that what I said- they aren't evil? : gnoleb
  • IMO, all the races are "evil" because in the end, they are all out for their own interests. Humans would ... : das_runt
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    The Forsaken are not evil, the Scourge are. : Porkasaurus
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      That depends on what quest you do.... ;) I've done some quests that make me go "wtf forsaken?" o.O : DM7
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        Which ones? Like when they do fucked up experiments or create diseases? : das_runt
        • There was one by a couple forsaken by Darkshire that had you go around the world collecting items to make : DM7
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      so the race that wants to plague the world isn't evil? : RikiTiki2
      • They just want people to die... and be more like them. That's what most races want, is for everyone else ... : das_runt
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    the humans are evil. or at least their leaders are. scarlet crusade? demon. stormwind? onyxia. the whole : AbortedFetusChristi
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      Totally. The Alliance is all haughty and self-righteous, but they have just as much blood on their hands ... : das_runt
      • you I agree with. and I totally forgot admiral proudmoore. ignore the cease-fire to invade the orcs just... : AbortedFetusChristi

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• llols...this needs more love : alcueso