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8You can now grab the Team Fortress 2 teaser movie from FileShack. The high-def clip shows off the game's different character classes. Team Fortress 2 will be included with Half-Life 2: Episode Two.
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There is no reason to assume there will be any substantial improvments to the game, because the trailer shows the same classes, with the same weapons, the same movement, even the same oooooooooooooooooold map, and the only cool part with the spy leaning against a wall is a 'fake' animation, not part of the game. Is it so hard to add movement along the wall? Splinter Cell had this for a while now, meanwhile the spy class in TF has had minimal improvments overtime.. the spy class fool nobody except newcomers. Then again, why would we need that movement feature in a game that is TFC - at the game's pace, it has no place - but that's just another reason to believe we're getting a rehashed TFC.
Funny enough, they had pretty much the same spy animation in the old TF2 video, which to me looked a lot cooler even now that BF2 is out. Valve reminds me of any time I get all ambitious about a project, then I end up half-assing what I promised and missing the due date.
I love TFC, and I'll be playing the hell out of 'TF2', but it's not TF2, and I'm still bitter that they gave up on that. >:(
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btw, we know what the gameplay will be like. Just like the previous 2. The early tf2 movies deviated to far from what tf was.
but now, I think they nailed it with this design and keeping the gameplay the same. will like to play the old popular maps but looking foward to new maps and new places to hide my sentry. :)
Look its TF2, its a sequal right? Its not just TFC1.1. The engine is brand new (to the tf world), the physics and everything else are all brought up to date, the art direction is updated, the technology is there, its all cutting edge and very aggressive, so why wouldn't there be updated mechanical elements?
I mean think about it, this is Valve, they brought us hl2, TFC, they thought of buying out CS an DOD. They're not a boring company with boring games.
I think if this were just a rehash of TFC with better graphics it would be called Team Fortress: Source. But its not, its Team Fortress 2 and its a motherfucker. This is a teaser and a screenshot focusing on the new look of the classes.
If you're going to freak out about nothing else being new, then you might as well apply that logic and assume they removed the engineers sentry simply because it wasn't shown in the teaser or that the soldier does nothing but bang himself on the head with the shovel.
How do we know that they haven't been tuning the gameplay elements all along? For all we know they could have had a version of TF2 that was a total class based tactical fps and decided it fucking sucked or that it removed too much of the Team Fortress spirit. I'm willing to trust these bastards and their intuition with whatever they've done with the Team Fortress universe. Personally, I never really thought TFC or TF was a die hard military style MP game/mod and that the ultra realistic theme fit. It was always a little silly, and always a little superficial, which is why I've been playing with myself all day at work while peaking at my new TF2 wallpaper. I have no reason not to trust Valve, they've yet to screw anything up and not redeem themselves.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXf7NBudV6w&search=team%20fortress%202
So awesome...
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Valve, I can love you again.
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Is what my sister said.
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Gibs need to come back god dammit.
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I hope those little effects they showed there are actually in the game. I hope the engineer impatiently taps his wrench when standing around. I hope the soldier hits his helmet like that if he happens to have the melee weapon out when he gets conc grenaded. I hope the medic really snaps his gloves, and the demoman actually throws dynamite bundles instead of the launcher of QW TF. I wonder if that alarm that goes off is for a stolen flag or for the pyro burning something?
Some things though, if this is 2fort5 as some people said, can the engineer get all the way up there where you see him standing while tapping his wrench? Where is the soldier standing when the alarm is going off and he's hitting his helmet with the wrench--what is that railing and what is that room?
Anyways, good show. I look forward to it coming back.
You know what's nice about TF compared to games like BF2? It doesn't have to take 20 minutes to get back in the fight when you respawn.
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Pyro's flamethrower looks awesome though. That's good.
Watch it earlier at work with no sound and had a feeling the music would be just like this. Awesome
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Can the motion blur and Dof be rendered in real time, or not? Can we get a clear answer on this? Other games seem to be able to do this (perhaps not as high quality, but they DO do it). So far, Valve has always clearly said (with the DOD:S trailers) that it's NOT possible, though they often confuse the issue by first saying that it was all rendered in Source, which while great for Machima, doesn't really answer the question.
If it's not possible, though, why are we being shown it, especially as our first glance at this stuff? Where is the REAL gameplay footage? What does it look like without it?
Second of all, the animations in the teaser rule... but obviously I cannot imagine them being in the game. Or are they? What level of animation and environment response will be in the game?
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The game "style" just looks like it was made for a 13 year old. It looks cool in a trailor/teaser but it's really not going to rub off on the gameplay. I was a BIG TF player back in the day and have been trying to follow TF2 since the beginning. To say i'm disappointed as to what it's turned into is an understatement. This is why it should have been canned. I'm sure it will get played alot at first for the novelty but I highly doubt this will have the staying power of what TF had or even TFC has now.
Just my 2 cents on the thing.
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TF2 trailer = cute, but definately a cop-out on Valve's part. Instead of getting a revolutionary new multiplayer experience like Valve was pimping back in 1999, we're getting a highly polished rehash. I guess this is what happens when you sign on with EA :(
On the bright side, getting all of this with Episode 2 (which I was already excited for by itself) is a complete steal. This right here is the champion of episodic gaming. Mark Rein probably shit himself when he saw all this stuff. Hopefully Valve has shut him up for good :)
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No one knows anything, and everyone can assume the worse, but if you are going to do that, then never again use the "you cant judge gameplay based off of screenshots" argument again. Because it certainly comes off a bit hypocritical.
While I am a firm believer that screenshots in fact cannot reflect the gameplay of a title, I am also a firm believe that you cannot get very much knowledge of a titles gameplay from a "teaser" movie that omits anything gameplay related.
However... I don't need a new TFC with farm animals, a new art design and some really great graphics. The gameplay better be changed up a bit or... something.
I'm pseudo disappointed. Ok, I am really feeling meh over all this.
I will be getting EP2 for POrtal though but I just wish TF2 was more TF*2* not TFClassic, now even Classicker!
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Actually, everything in that trailer is in-game. There's some extra screenspace effects on it (depth of field & motion blur), but apart from that it's all just recorded in the game. So yep, that's what the models look like, and that's what 2fort looks like now.
Robin.
When asked specifically about which animations are indeed from gameplay, here is Robin's reply. It seems that everything except the Spy animation is indeed actual gameplay footage.
Almost all of the animations are game anims used while playing (scout run, hwguy firing, etc). The exception is the Spy. We don't have a disguise effect we're happy with yet, so we whipped up that animation to give new players an understanding of what the Spy class is about.
We still haven't decided how we'll use screenspace effects. It's more of a design issue than anything else.
Robin.
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New screenshot of the Scout class in action...I am SO buying this!
http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/6432/tf2newscoutnt2.jpg
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Thing is, I've never given a damn about TFAnything. Never was big into TF, TFC, or any of the TF clone mods for other games.
So is there anyone out there who was psycho about TF/TFC and was stoked forever about TF2 that likes this?
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