Team Fortress 2 Artwork Released

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  Within about 2 hours a noob can become decent enough in TFC. If you have basic knowledge of fast paced F... : the rizzo
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    I dunno... the whole grenade jumping thing can be a little difficult. : crummynz
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      Grenades in general are hard to use in TFC. Some people seem to be able to time and place them absolutel... : PenicillinX57
      • watch a demo do double jumps off walls with mervs is soooo fun, but so hard. : p4ck3tloss
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      Oh cmon you can learn to Conc jump in about 5 minutes. Grenade jumping is even easier. Just hold it and... : the rizzo
      • Back in my clanner days with my school buddies (not competitive we just played a lot) we were all getting... : melkore
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  Same with Quake 3, though that had problems itself, only the really hardcore crowd really bought it and p : alias
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    I should also say that many players in Half-Life based games probably equated it to about CS level since ... : alias
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      I agree completely with that. It almost seems like the rest of the team is just trying to set up a run fo... : p4ck3tloss
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        I always equated it to soccer. You have the whole team which does it's job, but then you also have the f... : Ecks
        • ^x being one of those stars =p freaking crazy medic you were back in your ][ days : italiano3d
      • This is bullshit as well. A team needs Defense and Offense and 1 person cannot do that. Maps like Well ... : the rizzo
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        i dunno, in the old tf/tfc before leagues started to make really cheezy rules. It was all out war where w... : italiano3d
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          Most of those rules were from CNBL and their antics. I'm guessing you were in CE perhaps? Pretty mu... : alias
          • we beat cnbl when i was in bM also =P : italiano3d
      • i dunno, in the old tf/tfc before leagues started to make really cheezy rules. It was all out war where w... : italiano3d
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        i dunno, in the old tf/tfc before leagues started to make really cheezy rules. It was all out war where w... : italiano3d
        • wow can someone nuke these ^ sorry =( : italiano3d
  • A few weeks? Did you not fucking play back in the day? TFC servers were everywhere and full all the tim... : the rizzo
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  Same goes for any game. And it should be like that. A good solo chopper gunner in BF2 can wipe out pubs i... : Sgt_Boomstick
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    Exactly. It SHOULD be hard. I'm sick of games being pussified for newbies. You have to practice to get... : mourningstar
    • exactly when I played TFC a lot loved the challenge of it.. I was a pretty decent player but there was ... : Shadowdane
  • Easy to learn hard to master. That's what these types of games should be and most are which is good. : Chod
  • It's not true for CS. One of the biggest reasons for its popularity... you can only die once per round, m... : GreatGooglyMoogly

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• me too : Chandler55

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• I was about to post this, The art style and models are very similar to Evil Genius. : snowwolf
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  was looking for a post like this before I posted the exact same thing. : Fredrik S
  • ditto to the two/three above : delete_meverc
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  I never actually played anything but the demo for that. I enjoyed it and liked dungeon keeper quite a bi... : belal
  • I wanted to but never did. The demo was pretty good. : the rizzo
  • I did. Micromanagement was fun, to an extent, until the AI started really getting brutal about things. : bounty838

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• They're the same size as the HL2 power outlets. : Chris Remo

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  I hope it's nothing like TFC... qwtf all the way! ;) : Torias
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    You are so damn right. And indeed Q3F, and anything by Splash Damage. : node
    • i prefer its more like somthing by team fortress software and less like somthing by splash damage =) : italiano3d
    • splash damage boned q3f - matches became nothing but tricks : e v i l
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    Indeed! TFC != QWTF ...Not at ALL! To the point that I don't play TFC, but would play TF for 9 hours stra... : AxeMan808
    • I think it was CustomTF. : Kurashu
    • deadlode tf : stock1
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  We have no idea what new gameplay is in store. But yeah, I agree with you in that I hope it is more than ... : Serpico74
  • same here, really looking forward to new gameplay. though, i don't have my hopes up since it's not a s... : johngloid
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  "I know I have no idea about what the game will play like but... WHAT A DISSAPOINTMENT JEEZ TF2 MORE LIKE... : SpaecKow
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    Err, Omaha. : SpaecKow
    • Confuse an all-powerful explosion with a beach again and I'll blow you up. : omnova
• yeah lets hope so : bradsh

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  How about 3 games for $20?!! Which is what it will cost, I'm sure. : mn3m0n1c
  • Hah, you're expecting quite a lot aren't you? Look at the other titles so far that have cost $20 alone ... : flasher 907
• Are you kidding? By doing that they're going to lose sales for people who only want Ep2. I'll be buying E... : thecray

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• heh, hadn't noticed the scout's socks. I did see that big ass needle on medic and the sniper's safair c... : ariakaz
• You won't need to buy Episode One. : Chris Remo
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  I'd be shocked if it wasn't offered on it's own in some form or another. Tying it in with EP2 only could ... : Do_Or_Die
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    Whole package = 40$, any one alone = 20$ I bet. : lont
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      $40? I was assuming it would be at the same pricepoint as ep1. : datoo
      • I hope so... but let's not hold our breath either. : lont

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• The look on his face is absolutely priceless. : Orange Pylon
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  Hehe yeah, maybe the needle could be used as a weapon too, cuz it's so huge. : crinos
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    Wasn't the original used as a weapon if you 'used' it on an enemy? poisoned them or something.. : deathofrats
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      Yep, you'd be poisoned and you'd have to have one of your own medics heal you or you would just continue ... : shotgun1
      • I think the MegaTF mod-mod had droppable needles, but not official TFs : reign27
      • And once you had the disease, you could infect your teammates by getting too close. : lont
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        In the ORIGINAL game (TF for QWTF, don't accept substitutes =) the AXE would heal teammates and infect En... : Kurashu
        • It was in TFC. Though "YOUVE GOT AIDS NOW HAHA AHAHAHA" was considered comedy gold back then. : lont
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          Yes its a med kit though : the rizzo
          • The medic axe was more menacing, and also you could see how far it could reach and dodge it. : Barbarian
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      Yeah, poisoned them, draining them of their life and I do believe it infects nearby teammates as well. O... : AndyGoin
      • yes! ok, I remember that now..very funny stuff : deathofrats
    • Nothing like hiding outside the spawn in 2fort5, and then rush in with a medic axe when the door opened a... : Barbarian
• All that's missing is Doctor! Doctor! Doctor! Doctor! Doctor! : omnova
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  It'd be cool if they had one liners and quips that they'd say at oppertune moments, to accentuate their c... : SpaecKow
  • LOL, that would be great :) : PenicillinX57
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    Best part - an option to turn it off. : kingdepork
    • Well yeah, but I would totally love it for the first two weeks. : SpaecKow
  • It has to read in a John Cleese voice. : quietb0y
• He looks kind of like Noam Chomsky. I like it. : tomservo
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  I can the server messages banning me now: "OMG VALVE NEVER MEANT U TO STAB ENEMIES WITH NEEDLE U R PLA... : DOOManiac
  • Shut up and heal!, am i rite? : Stage
• And a huge rubber glove to match it looks like. Err. : Carnivac
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  That guy is straight up http://www.wpfs.org/moviepix/ReAnimator.jpg I dig it. : KungFuKenobi
  • omg your right hahaha. : italiano3d
• The whole thing is ridiculous and awesome. : Sturm08
• http://www.drmcninja.com/ : sammyl
• I like the scout's socks. : p4ck3tloss
• and the sniper's big game hunter hat... so much to love. : jrock

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  I can almost assure you, no. : the rizzo
  • Yeah, although... too bad. : Johnny Law
  • Spies would have to go tranny to disguise as the other classes. That said, I'd love to see cross dress... : evlbstrd
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  What's with Valve and female models? DoD, Counterstrike, and now this..no female models for the classes.... : deathofrats
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    Well... WWII didn't have many chicks fighting on the frontlines, and off the top of my head I don't know ... : crummynz
    • Lots of foreign special ops units use women. The US military is almost unique in that respect. The Israel : Magus
    • RtCW used redheads in tight black leather with silenced Stens : RikiTiki2
    • The fucking USSR dood. : SpaecKow
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    Alyx was enough for the virgin gamer crowds. I don't need WWII with tits. : kingdepork
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      No wait, that's awesome. WW2 WITH TITS: ARMED AND OFFENSIVE : lont
      • WW2: 52B Bombers? : deathofrats
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    because females wouldnt match the atmosphere of any of those games : klearlyunseen
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      we dont need to be distracted by boobs : crummynz
      • Yeah, war is serious business! : Mad Brahmin Disease
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    Ever notice the games with female characters just lead to 3/4 of the players using them, when most of the... : Barbarian
    • My friend got SO MUCH free stuff when he played as a female in WoW. He didn't ask for anything, didn't t... : Chris Remo
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      Often the female models are thinner, and although the hitbox systems in many online games appear to make ... : Enkidu
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        Yeah. I'd always play Quake 3 with the Crash model. Skinny as hell and tougher to see. : Serpico74
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          I thought the hitbox were the same on all Quake3 characters, no matter how fat/skinny they were? : simon_tack
          • Yep, they were, hence the silliness of it all. : johnsto
      • played a lot of Quake 2, eh? : RikiTiki2

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• Exactly. Give me gameplay over graphics any day. That's why I still play Quake 1 and oldschool NES game... : mourningstar
• The thing is though, TF2 is said to be using the latest technologies in the source engine. Goodies that ... : Zips
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  I think it's going through the way animated (pixar/disney) movies has gone... technology has advanced so ... : zehh
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    Who said good looking stylization was easy? : Serpico74
    • I didn't. Did you? It's just that doing something "realistic" is just an eternal race to make things m... : zehh

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  Yes, it uses Source. Why wouldn't their inhouse game not use their inhouse engine? : freshyk
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    because I wasn't sure if you could do cell shaded stuff on a "normal" engine without major tweaks. : GreenCrescent
    • yeah there have been cel-shaded mods to the Q3 engine that were done without even touching the source cod... : eskimo spy
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      This doesn't look cel shaded at all. If it was cel shaded, it would have black borders everywhere, and no... : Orange Pylon
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        cel-shaded art doesn't need thick black outlines. just a toonish look. which is exactly what the picture ... : Korban
        • oh, and the shadows too. they look pretty cel-shader esque : Korban
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          yeah, I think you kinda DO have to have the outline to be considered 'cel shaded' - and in regards your p... : eskimo spy
          • i... um... what? did you just argue against me and then agree with me? i think both of us need to cut b... : Korban
        • cel shading = 1d that definatly looks 3d shadow wise. It could be cel shading but I'm not sure it is. : italiano3d
        • cel shading is just limiting the number of colours and not using any gradients. So, for instance, instead... : captfarrell
    • I think you can create a cell-shaded effect with a full-screen shader. Doesn't take a major engine overh... : Arcanum
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  well, XIII didn't use a true cel-shaded engine. it used the 2nd gen Unreal engine : RikiTiki2
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    Dude, it was cell shaded; it looked it, played like a trippy half baked fantasy LSD hop, and fucked with ... : Morphius
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      I know, but it's an example of a regular engine able to do cel-shading : RikiTiki2
      • Gotcha. I remember models being released for Q3 back in the day that looked cell'ish. Don't know if it wa... : Morphius

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• I can't recall if they did it prior to the release of TFC, but I'm pretty sure they did one prior to the ... : Do_Or_Die
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  if you ask me... these screens look a lot like a HL1 engine... : brainchild420
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    These character models are higher poly and more detailed than anything in CS:S or DOD:S. WTF are you talk... : Serpico74
    • Actually, I take it back. It totally looks like it was made on the Half Life 1 engine: http://www.downloa... : Serpico74
  • Not a chance. Not even remotely. At all. : Chris Remo
  • there aren't any screens, those are from the super old, never happened version : thebigbeefsandwich
  • This confusion could have been avoided if a new screenshot archive was created :p Like 5 people have said... : aeg1x

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• The way it has textures, but they are really subtle, is cool. A great blend of the cel-shading look with... : lont
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  Yeah but it took them THIS LONG to come up with THAT. :/ : kainen1
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    What do you mean? The game is coming out later this year, why would you assume all they've completed is ... : Chris Remo
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      you misunderstand me. I mean after all this dev work, I expected character models through the roof. It ... : kainen1
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        I don't know, I can't imagine being happier about character models than I am with these. They certainly ... : Chris Remo
        • we'll see, who know, maybe I'll see them animated and it'll be like Pixar'ish and gorgeous and I'll take ... : kainen1
• I agree. These designs got me going too : jugglinmike

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  We don't know yet. Movies next week will likely clue us in. : lont
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    Thanks,I think this artwork or whtever is one big joke. : Cashh
    • lol, this isn't a drawing. What do you have against exaggeration? : deathofrats
    • It's what they look like in the trailer too, they look exactly like this. : Chris Remo
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  This could be in-game shot actually. posed but using ingame assets not from a 3d app. : Buckyfg1
  • I think it looks freakin tight. and I played the original to death. we need something new and this fills ... : Buckyfg1
• wut? : SockMonkeh

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  This is my only concern. I wonder if anything they talked about in '99 regarding them experimenting with... : Serpico74
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    I wouldn't mind if it was the gameplay of TF in about 1999, before bunnyhopping, but with "squads" you co... : Barbarian
    • pretty much sums up my feelings, or close to it. I much preferred qwtf to TFC in any form and hate the bu... : Old_Fart

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  They made it awesome! : Serpico74
  • They made it more awesome! Fix't : Zips
• They made it less ugly. : Mad Brahmin Disease

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  I'm confused. he's always had a wrench. : p4ck3tloss
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    In the first TF, he has a crescent wrench (spanner). Now he has a pipe wrench. : Barbarian
    • Wrench is the new black. : Kurashu
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  A wrench or spanner is a tool used to turn bolts, nuts or other hard-to-turn items. : the rizzo
  • A wrench is a lot of things, not just to turn nuts/bolts. A spanners sole purpose is to turn nuts/bolt... : Beady
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  haha thanks, this is like the most ridiculous complaint for a game I have ever read LOL : Svperstarr
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    You obviously didn't play an Engineer. : Sapiens
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      I spent 90% of my TFC time playing as an engie, such a fun class and perfectly balanced against the rest ... : Beady
      • You were spoiled in TFC. In QWTF, about the best trick we could do is building a dispenser, then standin... : Barbarian

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  Also from this post on Shacknews. : Chris Remo
  • I heard that in Sean Connery voice, you dashing man you. : tacocat
  • Doh! Me reads the headline AND the text beneath next time! : dawurz

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• good point. alpha3 is total kickassery : RikiTiki2

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  I think this is why they changed it, we already kinda have what they originally planned, so now their try... : tunis5000
  • Not too crazy about the 60's spinoff, or whatever they're calling it, but it does looks pretty cool. Look... : Morphius
• That screenshot looks like an old super Alpha version of BF2 or some shit. I'm glad they are sticking wi... : AndyGoin
• I would've been disappointed had they tried to keep that setting, to be honest. This TF2 art actually has... : Dslyecxi

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  Next WEEK you mean :) : Buckyfg1
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    yo, wanna buy a bridge? : Torias
    • awww did your joke not work :( o well : Buckyfg1

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• No. Maybe Evil Genius does though. : tacocat
• Did the leak have any TF2 assets in it? I never downloaded it, but I seem to remember something about pe... : lont

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  Those are HL2-sized plugs. I.e., big enough to actually see and manipulate in an in-game 1024x748 world ... : lont
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    I thought of HL2 plugs too. Maybe we'll be manipulating those in gameplay as we did in HL2. I wouldn't ... : dawurz
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      I bet the alarms go off when the flag is stolen, or whatever. : lont
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        Yeah I hope so too. It would amazing, though pretty unlikely, for the bell ringing animation to be big a... : Chris Remo
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          Er, why unlikely? I mean, sure I'm just guessing, but it's pretty feasible technically these days. : lont
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            I'm sure it is, I just don't want to be let down, it's too awesome of a thing for me to count on it being... : Chris Remo
            • what would be even cooler is to have to actually speak into an intercom in-game rather than having a magi... : manero
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          .. I'm sorry.. I'll reserve judgement till I see some videos of actual gameplay.. it looks like a multipl... : rythex
          • .. I'm sorry.. I'll reserve judgement till I see some videos of actual gameplay.. it looks like a multipl... : rythex
          • Mr. F : jake2000
          • Hahahahahahahahahahahaha : Chris Remo
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            I agree. Retarded totally. I'll up you one and say that it is only for retarded GAY adults. : MC Kingsley
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              With very, very small penises. : crummynz
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                who wet the bed and live with their moms. : eskimo spy
                • They should release it on the Game Cube, because that is where all gay retarded adult games for little ch : MC Kingsley
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  Hmm... I don't think so, given the location and size of the alarm and intercom. : Chris Remo
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    Plus, now that I think about it, the plugs in HL2 are big like that. : Chris Remo
    • It looks as tho they slightly exaggerated everything and perhaps those are industrial sized plugs that go... : AndyGoin
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      I dunno, the trim on the wall, which is usually like 6" high at most, looks like it's 2 feet high. I'm th... : eskimo spy
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        I hope its just a background they threw together, or maybe the wall of some very large, cavernous industr... : SpaecKow
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          Apparently none of you have ever seen 240V 30 or 40 amp plugs? That's about what they look like, and in... : rasputinreborn
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            --> http://images.google.com/images?q=30a++plug&btnG=Search&svnum=10&hl=en&lr=&safe=off&client=firefox-a& : rasputinreborn
            • Right, sure, but the others have mentioned other details that are a bit upsized tooo........................ : SpaecKow
• I think that the items are purposedly oversized. The red bell on the wall makes it look like they're of a... : aaarrrgh

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• i desktopped it too :D : RikiTiki2
• so did I, I think its universely desk'd. me good engrish : Buckyfg1
• same here.. awesome wallpaper! :) : Shadowdane
• Does it count that I printed it on the color laser and pinned it on my cube? : hawke

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  It's super-deformed on purpose. Why else would the Pyro have a 25-pound propane cylinder as an igniter f... : Enkidu
  • And that huge needle from the medic, like thats even remotely in proportion. The exaggerated proportions... : AndyGoin

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• Yea I was a little concerned when I read that as well wondering how it was going to turn out but this scr... : Do_Or_Die

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• I like it too. : edgewise

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  I'll bump this. My first TFC experience was one or two months ago, so if they just stuck on new models, I... : p4ck3tloss
  • Valve's damned if they do, and they're damned if they don't : RikiTiki2