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  If you want to get technical, the Pirate Bay site itself isn't infringing on any copyright as they don't ... : Halen
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    Not that it matters, but it would be illegal under Canadian law - they are the ones that are authorizing ... : verbatim
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      So, it's the postal office's fault if I mail some drugs to you? Either way, what the pirate bay is doi... : SilverSnake
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        Another example instead of the postal office... Is it the gun manufacturer's fault if I shoot you or your... : SilverSnake
        • Is it a kitchen utensil maker's fault if I stab you with my paring knife? : riptyde
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          No, the person who pulled the trigger is the one who authorized the bullet. Just like you can't claim... : verbatim
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            But you still have to do the active choice of going to the website, installing a client and loading up a ... : SilverSnake
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              I think it's stupid that a site can be held responsible for what its users are doing or an ISP for what i : verbatim
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                Well, such a site would actually be hosting the images if a user posts them to the site and is such doing... : SilverSnake
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                  well what about a torrent site for child porn? : alexthegreat2
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                    as long as its only the users providing and sharing and hosting the content then the site shouldn't be li... : derelict515
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                      So if I start a site called "12 Year Old Boys Having Sex With 42 Year Old Men Torrents R US" and encourag... : verbatim
                      • I may have a problem with it, but it's not illegal. I would have a problem if you started Religious Moral... : SilverSnake
                      • Obviously I think its reprehensible but I don't think the content changes the law about the provider. And... : derelict515
                    • that's cool I just wanted to see if you guys were strong in your convictions. While I don't agree with y... : alexthegreat2
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                  Wow, way to go all bleeding heart there. To answer your question, no, it's not the website's fault (as i... : Ecks
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                    wow way to get all emotional when he is asking a relevant question about boundary conditions in your litt... : gegtik
                    • There is no boundary condition. Otherwise then we just start arguing about which is more morally reprehen... : derelict515
                  • Of course. I mean, the solution isn't to chase the guys who exchange the pictures, it's going after those... : SilverSnake
          • I'm not giving you my home address, but I'm happy for you to make as many copies of my car as you like, a... : protozone
        • It's entirely based off intent. : Chod
        • Isn't it illegal to sell a gun to someone who's expressed intent is to murder someone? I thought that wa... : slickdoody
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        Then only allow people in sweeden to access that site then. : stgdz
        • That's kind of silly. Is every site now supposed to be on guard for laws in every other country? I'm s... : alexthegreat2
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        So, it's the postal office's fault if I mail some drugs to you? No, but there's a difference between a... : Rotten Deadite
        • So what about the gun manufacturers? Or, for an example that's hot in the US right now, game developers? ... : SilverSnake
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  one word: entitlement. Just like the conservatives said about the liberals in the last canadian federa... : verbatim
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    I have noticed it a lot more and more these days, maybe I am just getting older though. I buy less and l... : stgdz
    • And while you're not buying it, don't download it either... because, you know, that's kind of a tacit imp... : verbatim
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    In my eyes it's less about entitlement and more 'sticking it to the man' where they're being ridiculous a... : ieGod
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      Yes, file sharing is legal in Canada, the US, and other places. However, sharing content that you don'... : verbatim
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        The government does tax CDs and hard drive based players, meaning iPods would be covered under your logic... : ieGod
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          No, the iPods are specifically not covered. There was a CIRA hearing and they were made exempt (because t... : verbatim
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            Also, did you even read what I said? However, sharing content that you don't have a right to share is : verbatim
            • I did read that, but ethical, right, moral, logical etc. doesn't imply illegal. I think I was just tryin... : ieGod
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      No. "Sticking it to the man" would be to avoid using those products and stick to indy stuff. Entitlemen... : walker270
      • That's not what I meant. Look, if I buy a CD, I'd like to be able to rip that to mp3s so that I can: ... : ieGod
• I think it's hilarious that a bunch of nerds have created such a ruckus. It's the kind of terrorism I... : SpaecKow
• Basically I just like sticking it to the man. I don't buy cds anymore because I hate the RIAA. : baronzemo78
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  I think most of the controversy was over the RIAA/MPAA managing to convince the US to convince Sweden to ... : Vincent Grayson
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    Everyone loves a good political controversy. American hedgemony here we come! : verbatim
    • The pax americana has been in effect for years. : ieGod
• Um no. People are backing Pirate Bay because they don't like the idea of the RIAA or the MPAA acting as i... : Stoned Gargoyle
• You're very confused. First of all, violating copyright is nothing like stealing, no matter how you lo... : protozone
• You're very confused. First of all, violating copyright is nothing like stealing, no matter how you lo... : protozone
• You're very confused. First of all, violating copyright is nothing like stealing, no matter how you lo... : protozone
• You're very confused. First of all, violating copyright is nothing like stealing, no matter how you lo... : protozone
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  You're very confused. First of all, violating copyright is nothing like stealing, no matter how you lo... : protozone
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    Oh shit. Sorry for all the posts... : protozone
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      Impressive. : Toraz Chryx
      • In case anyone is wondering how it happened, the "post comment" button wasn't taking me to a new page, an... : protozone
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      It was worth saying over and over again. : rosewood
      • Television... : kenmis
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• Hahhaha this is awesome. : TastyWheat
• haha, don't give up, wait for phase II. : Dante
• the second prank is awesome : sKetchflow
• lol @ LOCKET SLEDz : PlanetPerfecto
• lol holy jesus i cried : sixfoot6
• hahaha.. @ part II ^_^ : Shadowdane
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  Thats the most I laughed in days. : crunkfunk
  • fantastic stuff... : ihya
• Oh man, the second prank is what I thought the first would be. AWESOME : Zero|DPX
• rocket chair ftl/w : feek
• oh fuck that was so goddamned funny... omg my chest hurts HAHAHAHA. I love Japan : proclone1
• wow.. that shit would never work in the U.S. (lawsuits). I love how it's all Japanese till.. "CRASH!!"... : K1Bond007
• LMAO that was fantastic, phase 2 was awesome : losimagic
• haha, omg I haven't laughed that loud in a long time, phase 2 ftw! : mikage
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  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gNsDp2N6yM&search=%E5%A4%A7%E6%95%B4%E5%8F%A4 : Kentor
  • oh my god... if you thought the first one was bad... : datoo
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    I feel kinda bad for that last guy. Looks like it hurt. : ChibiJosh
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      Then don't watch this. http://www.thatvideosite.com/view/2664.html The horse guy lol : Hello Kitty
      • haha wtf Japan! You just keep getting weirder! : Zero|DPX
      • I had a ton of clips like this several years ago. The thing I love about it is none of the 'victims' are ... : tomservo
      • So staged. Hilarious, but it can't be real. : Serpico74
  • Phase 3 o_O : Zero|DPX
  • HOLY SHIT PHASE 3! : TastyWheat
  • Let this be a warning for all those of you visiting Japan: DO NOT TRUST ANYTHING. : Kentor
  • hahahaha oh fuck : king_darius
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    I'm confused about Japanese toilets. : SockMonkeh
    • http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_toilet : Kentor
    • yea, i dont have the dexterity to drop an uno/deuce like that. : broly1718
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      It's called squatting, and it's why they don't get hemorrhoids like we do. : rasputinreborn
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        Correct! http://www.relfe.com/toilet_seat_constipation.html : datoo
        • Wow, informative! I have always avoided those squat toilets, must give it a try next time, though. : Kenshin_
  • are these real/legal? : strandgeck
  • if i ever go to Japan, i'm going to check EVERYTHING before i shit in public.. : g0nk
• hahaha those evil bastards : khaosman
• That was really awesome! : ChibiJosh
• Hahaha. Japan + Youtube is an internet highlight. : stump
• If I was victim to part two, I'd just enjoy the ride and yell out 'ROCK OUT WITH YOUR COCK OUT' while mak... : laidback
• These Canadians are afraid of scorpions. : spazzium
• Fucking Japan, man. Awesome. : king_darius
• lol, that was awesome. : broly1718
• This is genius. : Serpico74
• I love Japan so much. : tomservo
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  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6czS5zKOIQ if you dont laugh at this, you wont laugh at anything : mr.sleepy
  • hahaha, this is truly the funniest of all for some reason. : rasputinreborn
  • girl at 8:30 = SO OWNED. : Zero|DPX
  • hahaha god damnit the table : tomservo
  • hahaha it keeps getting better : king_darius
  • i love the end of that video : PlanetPerfecto
  • Well that was just depressing :( : dognose
  • hahaha.. those where awesome! : Shadowdane
  • ahahahaha : maulla
• wow. on par with the pork chop on the forehead one : mallrice
• fantastic!! : ghost hacker
• Wow, the last part of that is really funny! Tagged for later. : Karnov
• holy god this thread delivers : mega man
• HAHAHH jpapan rocks : El Tigre
• awesome thread... lol! : Kenshin_
• haha, japan = awesome : Foxhawk
• http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2swqP911t0 : evil-cow
• Damn you have to log-in now to view this.. this video anywhere else??? : Shadowdane
• omg, that mission 2 stuff blew my mind! : carrioN luggagE
• God bless Japan. : helvetica
• tagged - funny : mace
• tagged : maru mari

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• wow : maulla
• I cant believe the time I just wasted reading that :( : sharkII
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  i think the real moral of the story is, don't leave your electronics in cabs. i lost my phone in the ... : OneLessMoment
  • haha that's hilarious actually : mikecyb
  • Haha that's crazy. Nicely played :D : nomaad
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    that's really awesome. that kid must have been a damned idiot. : dahanese
    • he was holding it up looking at it like he was confused.. kids these days : OneLessMoment
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    You should have punched him in the face! : FormerHPB
    • after the shock that it was actually my phone subsided, the rage set in.. unfortunately he was out of sig... : OneLessMoment
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    Do you guys have like $900 cell phones or something? Everyone these days has a cell phone and wireless p... : TwiLyght
    • When those who steal it make thousands of dollars of phone calls overseas, there's plenty of reason to st... : FormerHPB
    • a sidekick is like $300 even with a 2 year provider contract. that's a lot more than the average person ... : digitalburro
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  also: the girl didn't get her sidekick "stolen" from a cab.. she fucking left it there.. it was her fault... : OneLessMoment
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    What? With that logic I guess I have every right to go break into your car and take everything inside ... : ayesel
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      Yeah, except not. You totally twisted that logic around. He was simply pointing out that you need to be... : soggybagel
      • she : mikecyb
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        Wrong. She states clearly that she didn't believe the sidekick was stolen because it was left in the cab ... : ayesel
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          so what do you do if you find 50$ lying in the street? leave it there? : alexthegreat2
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            Sure you can take it, and I probably wouldn't look down on you for taking it, but it's still theft. : ayesel
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              so then it's just semantics. Most people would look down on a thief, but with your definition a thief ca... : alexthegreat2
              • To a degree yes, it's most certainly not a black and white issue. I think a lot of what decides the natur... : ayesel
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      My advice to you is to take a logic or debate class, and if you have or are, I suggest you pay more atten... : Bean
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        by that logic you should take a class in surfing : gegtik
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          My comment above applies to you, as well. Also, I'm a fairly competent surfer familiar with the process, ... : Bean
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            hippies are awesome asshole!!! : gegtik
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              Hmm... allow me to qualify my statment, as I unintentionally pigeonholed all hippies. Old hippies, lik : Bean
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                also the discovery that you know how to surf makes my earlier post sort of serendipitously and posthumous... : gegtik
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                  I concur. It got better with age. : Bean
                  • This subthread is an example of why I read the shack every day. : Halen
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        Well apparently you've taken a debate class, since you've brought up such excellent points to refute my a... : ayesel
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          yeah bean how were your grades in internet trolling? i hope you did well! My professor was a real dick ... : Mr.SEX
          • lol, you should write for CNN. :) I'd read your articles. : slickdoody
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          Your argument had no rational relationship to the situation in OneLessMoment's post. At all. It's not eve... : Bean
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            Hahah, pwned by Law School. Seriously thats why I hate/love having buddies in different levels of law sc... : soggybagel
            • Lawyers are professional arguers, after all. Every last one will argue about any little thing in minute (... : Bean
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            Ah yes, all of that text and not one thing to refute what I said. I suppose it appears the class you t : ayesel
            • I guess that's one of the great things about FP. You can get into an argument, act like a pompous ass and... : ayesel
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      i didn't say it was right, i just said that you should be responsible for your own things... the girl was... : OneLessMoment
      • That's bullshit. People make mistakes and you should encourage moral behaviour. : gegtik
• Nice. I was wondering what happened. : FormerHPB
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  I found a guy's cellphone in a parking lot once. I called him back on the home number in the phone and h... : alexthegreat2
  • I found a cell phone once too. It was a few years back, so I couldn't tell by looking at it who owned it... : FormerHPB

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  Oh god I hope cross battlegrounds are optional. Last thing I want is to fight against AQ geared teams fro... : crazywigga
  • Hopefully blizzards finds a way to balance things out.. just a bit : -TKF-
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  Cross-Realm Battlegrounds fuckin A man, fuckin a... : g0nk
  • inorite I can hardly wait : Rotten Deadite
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    i know! so hot . . . it takes over an hour to get into BG on my server :( : jedi_27
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      are servers have tons of 60 bg's going but if you want anything between 1-50 you're pretty much out of lu... : carazy
      • our : carazy
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  What are you looking for in this "5 man epic instance" request? Are you suggesting 5 man encounter wh... : Slowtreme
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    who would want the 1st? only masochists and morans : RikiTiki2
    • just trying to think it out : Slowtreme
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      Wouldnt world pvp lag up the server?. I know when we raid IF the server I play on usually goes down. : xpogox
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        A raid on a capital city is extreme. You are taking 40-80 combatants into an area already occupied by 100... : Slowtreme
        • They'll just add the major hotspots like Tarren Mill/Southshore. Basically sanction those areas that alre... : Fyunch Click
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          Planetside did this about 3 years ago :) : stonedonkey
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            yeah same concept, maybe without the linked/connected zones : Slowtreme
            • Be hot if they had towns you could take and hold with rewards and NPCs that provided special pots or temp... : stonedonkey
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    I think there is a huge craving for more 5 man content. For me any my friends we prefer the 5man instanc... : jedi_27
    • I'm not doing anymore raiding, time vs reward just isn't there for me. The .5 quests were a step in th... : stonedonkey
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    I want a 5 man instance that yields Epic Loot. It should be on a timer like other instances, just with... : -TKF-
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      Meh, I don't really see the point of a 5 man instance on a huge cooldown. The whole reason I like 5 mans ... : FlatlineDixay
      • There are plenty of those, hit DM or whatever. The rules of wow are simple, Epic, or EPIX! are suppose... : -TKF-
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      You run MC now on 4 hours, but it took you weeks or months to learn it, unless you just hopped into a gui... : Slowtreme
      • I don´t see how a 2-3 week instance that naturally would be hard is in any way easier than MC. ... : -TKF-
    • You will be seeing 10 man on a timer come the expansion. : Chod
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    I'd be pretty happy there was a 5 man instance that yielded materials for temporary buffs, or some signif... : FlatlineDixay
    • Thats a good idea, you should post it on their forum. : -TKF-
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    I want to have the difficulty on par with the 40 man raids there is no reason this can't be done. Also ma... : carazy
    • I have never had more fun in WOW as when i raided in 5 man groups with friends. It´s still fun, b... : -TKF-
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      They did this in ZG and AQ20. giving you a lot of hard bosses with chances to drop nice stuff, and only t... : Slowtreme
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        Never going to be able to please these people. There are millions of players who aren't able to do the hi... : stelth
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          The difference between Epic and non Epics is really about being in a big lvl 60 guild. : -TKF-
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            So? Big guilds don't mean anything extraordinary. They just have a greater potential of doing a high leve... : stelth
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              IAW the way the implemented Dungeon2 sets. They made (almost) MC quaility gear, and made it expensive and... : Slowtreme
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                Too bad. Seriously. Why should people who don't spend the amount of money, time or (maybe) effort be equa... : stelth
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                  LOL, 1000's of gold.. comon now... And what do you care, if your raiding you'll always get your newest s... : stonedonkey
                  • The amount for repairs may have been an exaggeration, maybe, but raiding five days a week and spending 10... : stelth
                • Thats what we're saying. Have it equal to the amount of time. Make the items hard to get whatever just ... : carazy
                • I'm just saying there was no equivilent upgrade beyond D2, not even for 8x the effort. (my guild also cle... : Slowtreme
            • I think you didn´t get my point, or by the looks of it you comepletely ignored it really. Big : -TKF-
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        20 man is still not 5 With friends its more fun, in big groups it quickly turns into Semi work, to muc... : -TKF-
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          Pugs are your problem. I don't give a flying shit, I will not do pugs. (on my alts, that is) They ruin th... : stelth
          • Maybe you didnt read all my posts? I´m doing fine in 40 man raids, that is not the point. A... : -TKF-
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        People want to log on and get epics with no work required. Anything more than this and they'll bitch. : walker270
        • Some people may want that, but some people just want a path to decent epics that doesn't require being in... : Arcanum
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    I'd like to see some tougher 5-man instances which end up in some nice blues that aren't a shame to wear ... : Entity
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      When DM opened, MC was already out. I have to say at the time that place was DAMN HARD. we had all got us... : Slowtreme
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        well thats the way it is with MC pretty much now. PUGS can get pretty far in MC. : carazy
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          PUGS only get through MC because they have people that geared up in guilds in the group. But yeah, I made... : Slowtreme
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            Do you have a video of this? I'd be extremely interested to know what your method was to tear down MC in... : Chod
            • Sorry no video. http://www.shacknews.com/ja.zz?id=12350515 Take 40 players, put on T2 + AQ40 + Rank14... : Slowtreme
            • shitty Google-video: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7569845544566450274&q=axemen Around 1... : nosseman
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  They should just remove AV already, it's nothing like when it originally came out and fucking sucks now. ... : ghost in my shell
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    SO you are "THAT GUY" huh? BTW are you the one that has the GCRA charter now? I logged in last night ... : Slowtreme
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      Uh nope, my alt hasnt been invited to the guild yet, since I just started playing again yesterday. : ghost in my shell
      • Looked like Elide gave the GM to someone named ghost after I just turned it over a day ago. I though Oh c... : Slowtreme
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    If anything remove Warsong Gulch. Worst BG by far. : Chod
    • haha fuck that... nothing quite like 2 organized, well geared guilds battling it out for more than an hou... : pukerat
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  If they're going to be pimping everyone out with these silly Casual epics, then the next 40 man instance : stelth
  • Epics should be more like Diablo II imo... cow and Baal runs 4life yo. : stonedonkey
• If by 5 man epic instances you mean paid server transfers, count me in. : matrix
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  im not much of a WoW pvper, but is the entire pvp aspect of the game dominated not by skill, but by gear?... : maulla
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    It's straight gear + lowbies buying enchants after their 60's can farm 300+ gold in a few days. But th... : RyDogg1
    • sounds like ToA desease. at least you dont have to worry about grinding out dungeons and instances to gai... : maulla
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  I respecced my mage last night and had a great time with a proper Fire/Arcane spec. It's also a good time... : Entity
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    i despise your sort. : Arsenal
    • So do I. This is my revenge for the shit Alliance pull on me in Cenarian Hold. >:( : Entity
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  It is hard to make a difficult 5 man instance The difficulty in most 40 man fights comes from having ... : jlavrenz
  • Something Blizzard hasn't done but could if they wish is have the dungeon alter fights according to who i... : Chod

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  Not close at all. Try 5 more rings buddy. : carnivore
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    So, Jordan wasn't Jordan until 1998? : -efx-
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      Not my point, but the burden of proof to establish Wade's dominance is clearly on how many rings he will ... : carnivore
      • Also, he's probably going to lose half his teammates after this year, so then we'll really see how well h... : riptyde
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  Kobe's much better imo. : paravis
  • hahahahahahaha : Downforce
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  And seriously, Kobe's not clutch? Ludacris. : paravis
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    Ludacris made a song about Kobe? : RikiTiki2
    • Let me slap my knee for that one =) : paravis
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  Most impressively, he already gets more calls than Jordan in his prime. : pyrogen
  • That's just his style though, he's so fast and he just runs at you. If you stand your ground to draw the ... : -Panther-
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  Right now, I think Kobe is still the better Physical athlete. But he's older as well. When Dwayne has h... : digitalburro
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    There really isn't anyone in the league that has the killer instinct kobe has. He sure as hell won't mis... : paravis
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      Killer Instinct yes, character no. Unfortunately that guy that wants to win at all costs is the same guy... : digitalburro
      • They were winning by getting everyone involved. They lost when kobe was trying to take it on by himself.... : paravis
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      well we will never knew because kobe has no understanding of making hs teammates better. he destroys his ... : sleepyvt
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        Now you just made that up =) You obviously didn't watch the suns series : paravis
        • actually i did, but okay : sleepyvt
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  Shaqs sidekick 2.0 you mean...lebron is 10 better then wade, give me a break. : mastarp
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    Lebron loses superstar points because he still chews his finger nails. : -Panther-
    • god gawd that drives me nuts. and it's not just regular nail biting, it's hand sweeping from the left si... : digitalburro
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  No. Lebron is better now, look what he did against detroit and he doesn't have half the team Wade has....... : notext
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    this argument makes no sense, lebron had worse stats against detroit than wade did. 26.6 points to 26.7 ... : belal
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      oh and if anyone wants to look at the stats themselves Dwade http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/pro... : belal
      • i think notext was saying that look at lebron did without the supporting cast that dwayne has. if lebron... : ibrokn
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      Wait, so you just said that Lebron had worse stats, but then went on to say that he had more assists, mor... : riptyde
      • Thats what I was thinking too. : soggybagel
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        I was showing that the stats are basically equal except for the shooting percentage, where lebron paled i... : belal
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          d. wade performed better in the playoffs, yes. Lebron had a higher PPG by 4 points then wade, more reboun... : maulla
          • errr, tack on "in the regular season" to the end of the first sentanc : maulla
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  ok let me break it down Lebron James == Better version of Grant Hill D.Wade == Bigger stronger Allan... : creep
  • well, I hope he's bigger.. I saw Allen yesterday, and he didn't look like an NBA player at first glance..... : dextius
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  Go Marquette WARRIORS :( love, Old-time Milwaukee sports fan :( : lordlobo
  • can i be a brewers fan now : Deathlove
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  the only reason i (or probably most sports analysts) would rate lebron over wade is because lebron is bet : maulla
  • Lebron doesn't even play defense 90% of the time. 1 on 1 he just lets players go right by. Wade is a MUCH... : madtothemax
• I think this playoffs has unquestionably established D.Wade as one of the top 5 or so players currently i... : Bean

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• -$350... : g0nk
• $0.37 and some lint :( : Matto357
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  little to nothing :( : CornflowerBlue
  • ^^^ this will change however once I start collecting some rent : kanix
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  does this consider all investments, i.e., 401(k), or just 'take-home' money that goes into a savings acco... : FrayLo
  • fwiw, ~$5000 in 401(k) / year, and the company matches that @ .75c for every $1, so it comes out to be $8... : FrayLo
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  about $150 month in 401k. i feel bad, cause i know i should be saving more and not blowing money on stupi... : kingfish
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    What is a 401k? Is that like the states version of a retirement savings plan? : dante2010
    • Yes. You can direct some of your paycheck (up to certain gov't mandated limits) into your 401k before ta... : riptyde
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  Try to save about €2000 a month. Usually works, but sometimes I just need MORE GUITARS AND TV... : moshman
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    2000 euros a month? :( jesus, that's twice what I earn and then I have to pay rent/bills expenses out of ... : marmite
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      I've been there too, but I moved away from the UK to get a better job. : moshman
      • where are you now? and what do you do? : doomed
• My wife and I are *trying* to build up a savings. I'm putting roughly $300/mo into my 401k (max my compa... : genom
• none at all. but i'm about to start putting money into a 401k (taking money out of a paycheck before you ... : dahanese
• ~ $400 a month : Shadowdane
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  I save about 1500 a month, but that's out of my actual paycheck. I contribute the full 14% to a 401k bef... : digitalburro
  • thats more than half of my monthly take-home :-( : MisterPhoton
  • yeah man what do you do and can you get me a job? :) : Mr.SEX
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  I could be saving around $400-$600 a month. The fact that a bus pass is $33 and I share my utils with 3 ... : pzilla
  • edit: makes living in a big city quite affordable. : pzilla
• next to nothing, but i've been putting most of my efforts into paying loans and credit card debt : smoove
• These days about $100 but New Orleans is as expensive as fuck right now, with most of the housing costs s... : Rauol Duke
• what is this 'saving' you speak of? : ra1n
• zero. Trying to get out of debt :/ : sharkII
• crap all :( : Sabaki
• I'm lucky to put away $300 a month not including my 401K however if I've got a large spend in mind I can ... : Jonathan
• Nada. If I cooked all my meals and didn't spend anything on entertainment, I might manage $100-$150/mont... : Arcanum
• With my lifestyle and not including 401k I can probably save about $500/month. I can up that to about $8... : walker270
• I put $800/mo into my 401k (no company match... cheap fuckers), and then I try and save around $500-$1000... : riptyde
• I put in $100 a paycheck (biweekly) into a savings account. But I'm very aggressive with trying to pay of... : carazy
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  $2000~ a month, $1600 going towards retirement : wtf242
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    Damn dude. I need your job. : riptyde
    • ^ yeah I'm with him on that one. : voodooraze
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      programming java sucks. I seriously can't stand my job. : wtf242
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        You must be making a decent amount to be putting that much away, or saving everything you possibly can. ... : walker270
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          if he can put 2g away and still pay bills he's pulling in massive amounts of cash. : sigpro
          • Not necessarily. You can put away $2k/month on $45k/year if you live in a shitty apartment, never eat ou... : walker270
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          I'm not married, I have no debt. My only bills are mortgage, Utilities, Phone, Internet, car insurance, ... : wtf242
          • Heh, nm, I don't need your job then. Our big thing is we have two car payments (one $200/mo, one $475/mo... : riptyde
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            man, I really need my fucking raise + sales commission to start happening. Going from the 35k I make now ... : sigpro
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              I make even less than you and I still manage to save ~$1200/mo but that's because I live at home (I can't... : TwiLyght
              • right now my wife isn't working and staying home with our 2 kids so I basically pay for everything so mon... : sigpro
          • that explains it, you're making more than double what I am. No wonder I have no money to my name. : MisterPhoton
          • Damn dude ... that's a nice chunk of change. : ThomW
• I am going to start buying silver and gold. : deeveee
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  wtf all you moneyhats, I'm starting on a 401k next month, but besides that, all my money goes bye-bye pre... : MisterPhoton
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    Any other services out there like Gamespy's Direct 2 Drive? Lookin to buy somethin today, too lazy to go ... : limpossible
    • Misreply, Nuke Plz : limpossible
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    when I was trying to save, I never could. I had to take the decision out of my hands. Now all of my inv... : digitalburro
    • 100% truth right there. : genom
    • ^^ yep exactly. I do the same thing. : wtf242
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      I'd love to do that, but the simple fact is that my current money in is barely > my current money out. :-... : MisterPhoton
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        when I first moved to Dallas, I was in the same boat. I felt I needed to make more money to have more mo... : digitalburro
        • Very well put. If you sit down and look at your expenditures, chances are all of us can find things that... : riptyde
      • try to get some freelance jobs, if that's the case. i'm in a situation where i know my payment plans f... : dahanese
      • If you really need to save or pay down debt, get a part time job at night delivering pizzas or something.... : land
• i don't know me exactly since there's just one bank account and the woman manages our money but we add ro... : [fry]
• $110 a paycheck (bi-weekly) or so goes to my 401k right now, plus whatever I don't spend from my paycheck... : mikecyb
• i make $27k a year, and i put away approx 200.00 a month towards a 401k and roth ira. : hobosapien
• 1500/mo : tomatoactivator
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  $2000-3000 depending on my credit card bill. That's on top of $800 a month or so I put away for retiremen... : gameindustryplant
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    how does a mortgage read ramen and taco bell? : dahanese
    • I read the ramen while I eat at taco bell? Or, typo : gameindustryplant