Possible Vista Troubles, Minimum Specs Revealed
by Chris Remo, May 19, 2006 8:30am PDTSecurity software firm Symantec has sued Microsoft, claiming that the upcoming Windows Vista makes unauthorized use of Symantec technology. The technology in question is a volume management system, directing Vista's handling of high numbers of files. Veritas Software, as of last year a subsidiary of Symantec, created the tech and licensed it to Microsoft. Symantec's accusation states that Microsoft's inclusion of the technology in Vista is "trade secret misappropriation" based on reverse engineering of the volume management system, explicitly breaking the license agreement and concealing its activities. The statement goes on to note that Microsoft has claimed ownership of many of the features derived from Veritas' software, as well as filed patents for some of them. Microsoft claims that the disagreement "stems from a very narrow disagreement over the terms of a 1996 contract with Veritas." The software giant claims to have attempted to work out a mutually agreeable situation with Veritas, to no avail. Regardless, states Microsoft, Symantec's suit is without merit because in 2004, Microsoft exercised a right in its contract with Veritas, allowing Microsoft to buy outright the code and intellectual property rights in question. Symantec is currently seeking an injunction to prevent "further development, sale or distribution" of Vista, which it claims makes significant use of the Veritas tech. If successful, the suit would delay Windows Vista yet again, following recent delays slating consumer versions of the operating system as being available in early 2007. However, should such a situation arise, it is likely Microsoft would agree to a monetary settlement, allowing Vista development to continue; such behavior is not unusual for the company. In rather related news, Microsoft has released the official system requirements for Windows Vista, and they're not as steep as perhaps some have assumed. The bare minimum specs are an 800MHz processor, a DirectX 9 video card, and 512MB of RAM. That won't get your PC to Premium Ready status, however. To achieve that, you'll need:
- 1 GHz 32-bit (x86) or 64-bit (x64) processor1. - 1 GB of system memory. - A graphics processor that runs Windows Aero2. - 128 MB of graphics memory. - 40 GB of hard drive capacity with 15 GB free space. - DVD-ROM Drive3. - Audio output capability. - Internet access capability.Various features are available only on Premium Ready PCs, including Vista's much talked about Aero skin.
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I like to be able to rip CDs I buy to any audio format I want...any body know if Vista is going to pull bullshit that makes it were I can't do that (or worse yet...convert my legitimate collection of music to WMA or some other DRM'd format without so much as asking).
Also, is it just me...or does it seem like anytime we here how things are going to get easier...it just means that we're going to have to jump through extra hoops to get to the nuts and bolts to get the machine to run the way we like (to protect the lovable retards out there who are perplexed by navigating the FUCKING HARDDRIVE!!!!11111). Just a side note thing.
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also, the longer Vista is delayed the better for XP users hoping to keep liveupdate support alive for XP as long as possible. i would be happy to use xp pro indefinitely so long as it is maintained/updated for security and performance issues.
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Its all about DX10. That alone makes the whole thing worthwhile. 1/2 the overhead. No more NV/ATI wierdness. DX10 games will LOOK EXACTLY ALIKE on either vendors DX10 card.
Isnt that worth the price of admission?
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Crazy. I just went SLi with the intention of getting a dual core processor this coming fall but I may as well take my system and toss it off the balcony when Vista arrives.
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People seem to bitch that Vista is just a new look and feel and some more security. but there is a lot more in there then meets the eye.
For instance Aero; Aero is the name of the new UI used in Vista (note that this is just the current version, the RTM look and feel is not finalized yet.
Typical at Microsoft this is finalized a couple of weeks before going RTM) .
Aero is build on top of Avalon which allows crazy stuff. For instance it allows by means of a simple XML file to create any UI you want. I got a sample application which looks exactly like the XBOX ui just by using a simple xml.
Also at a customer we have graphic artists developing UI's in whatever program they want as long they can export it as as XML, translate it to xaml using xslt and pass it over to the dev team which attaches event handlers to it and thats all. The UI becomes alive exactly as you want it. No more dull windows, no more stupid interfaces that don't make sense etc.
Personally I like this since it allows people/business to be creative about the experience in using a computer.
This is just one example, many other things are in there as well which will have the same impact on your experience.
So don't just make your opinion on how vista ships, look more how vista will allow businesses to make your experience completely different. Vista is just the tool, the real power still needs to be unleashed.
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The days of pc gaming are nearing an end for me, I think. Im much more interested in the DS Lite, Wii, and 360.
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My First Experience with Vista ....In Reply..
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https://shipit.ubuntu.com/
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Also, like one of the prevvious posts here. Dell offers plenty of quality inexpensive computers that will run this fine. There is absolutely no reason to bitch..
If you don't like it, go buy a Mac of teach your self Linux, there are alternatives.
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For what it's worth, he's not worried one bit about the Symantec lawsuit. The mechanics of the suit itself are nothing Microsoft hasn't seen hundreds of times before and either won or settled out of court. According to him, if you're worried about a delay in Vista, you shouldn't be, and I'm very much inclined to take his word for it.
As for Symantec's products (whatever relevance they may have), I've worked in several corporate environments and I've yet to see their anti-virus solutions deployed rather than McAfee's or Trend Micro's.
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I usually switch the person to a Trend-micro pcillin av/Webroot spy-Sweeper combination. And 99.9% of my clients are overjoyed to watch their pc boot up 75% faster and are happier knowing the scans done by both software are actually faster combined then just running NIS. And both products actually can detect alot more spyware/malware and viruses then NIS. IF your a gamer and your running NIS.. you need to turn in your hardcore label and get a console.. because your seriously Slowing your pc down for no reason.
Ironically, the thing hurting the Windows Vista interface is a by-product of Microsoft's greater push on security. A mass of dialogue windows that ask users whether they are sure they want to take certain actions, or to re-enter passwords, are part of an attempt to remove default administrator privileges from end-users. Unfortunately, this stringent application of security seems to apply to actions like altering the systems control panel and making changes to the clock, Yankee said.
The cluttering of the interface would be something of an own goal, given Microsoft's marketing team settled on the "Vista" name specifically to convey the "clarity" the operating system is bringing to customers.
WAR IS PEACE
FREEDOM IS SLAVERY
IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH
SECURITY DIALOGS POPPING UP EVERYWHERE AFTER EVERY ACTION IS CLARITY
Makes me wonder what the next generation of fighting through dialog popups will sound like. Here's the current generation: http://windowslol.ytmnd.com/
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Just don't buy it?
OH WAIT, DIDN'T THIS HAPPEN BEFORE?
I think, I think...I think it was called Windows XP!
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Besides, I load XP, turn off all the RAM hogging BS that is Windows animation/etc, and make it look as much like Windows 2000 as possible. I honestly wouldn't be running XP if it wasn't for other compatibility issues.
And of course it all depends on what you have enabled. You don't need a 128MB video card unless you want to run the topmost interface out of three options.
They were saying it runs on a ~800Mhz/512MB system just fine with some of the fancy stuff disabled, and that the install only uses about 3GB (not sure about what options were chosen).
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It was difficult to convince people of the merits of going from ANYTHING up to Windows XP... this next path is going to be nearly impossible, and I'm one of them this time!
The only thing that could get me to migrate is a super awesome upgrade utility that will PERFECTLY migrate all my installed games... this gaming rig runs perfectly and I'm not going to fuck it up and have to reload everything :(
Not like this has happened before under less caustic circumstances. *cough*CITRIX!*cough* *cough*SYBASE!*cough*
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ARE THERE ANY MOVIES OR SCREENSHOTS OF GRAPIX OUT, YET?
THX
Not that it matters to me that much. Vista is so full of DRM crap that I'm not about to touch it untill there are ways to disable it.
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