Immersion President Calls Out Sony
by Chris Remo, May 17, 2006 5:23pm PDTFor years now, Sony has been embroiled in a legal debate with Immersion Corporation, a technology firm which claims that Sony and Microsoft infringed upon Immersion's haptics technology with the force feedback features in PlayStation and Xbox consoles. Microsoft agreed on a settlement with Immersion, and went so far as to purchase a 10% stake in the company. Sony did not agree to a settlement, and last year was ordered by a federal judge to pay Immersion $91M in back royalties and penalties, which Immersion claims still comes out to a lower sum than Sony would have paid had it licensed the technology. Sony launched an appealed to ruling, though Immersion's lawyers have stated that they do not anticipate any problems given the court rulings so far. At E3 last week, Sony made two surprising announcements about its upcoming PlayStation 3 controller: it will include motion sensing technology, and it will forego the rumble feature present in PS2's current DualShock 2 controller, which is visually almost identical to the new PS3 model. When questioned as to the reasoning for the removal of the feature, Sony's official line was that the rumble technology interfered with the motion sensored. Sony's Phil Harrison also stated that "rumble was last generation, movement is this generation." The explanations given were met with a fair bit of skepticism from the gaming public and press, as the company's unwillingness to show its redesigned controller in recent months was frequently alleged to be connected to the company's bout with Immersion. Furthermore, Nintendo's Wii controller, which includes both motion sensors and a pointer function, does not appear to be adversely affected by its rumble functionality; however, in what may be a related issue, Immersion has never singled out Nintendo for infringing upon its rumble implementations. In a Gamasutra interview published today, Immersion president Victor Viegas disputes Sony's claims. In regards to the lawsuit, he remains confident, saying "We've already won. In September the jury was unanimous in its defense of our actions." He goes farther, however, claiming that Immersion has in fact offered solutions to Sony for the hardware conflicts they describe, though to take advantage of such solutions would obviously require Sony to drop its current appeal against the latest ruling. Viegas also takes issue with Sony's description of rumble as "last generation" technology.
"If what they're saying is in fact the reason why [the controller will not have vibration], I've offered them numerous solutions to the problem," Viegas said in an interview Tuesday. "I don’t believe it's a very difficult problem to solve, and Immersion has experts that would be happy to solve that problem for them." "We feel haptic or vibration technology is quite possible in a next gen system," he said. "It can provide greater fidelity, better effects, and a more complete sense of immersion, using a wired or wireless controller." "When you think about the investments they’re making in improving graphics and sound, these are all meant to try to immerse you or put you in the middle of gameplay," Viegas said. "So to take vibration out of a driving game or a first person shooting game, I can't imagine how people will be able to view that as an advancement in gaming."Viegas even states he has spoken with numerous developers who were unaware of the removal of rumble, as they had been working with development kits making use of the tech. This claim parallels reports from multiple news outlets (including this one) that most PS3 developers also learned about the system's motion-sensing controller when it was announced to the public at Sony's press conference last week. Only one game at the expo, Incognito's Warhawk, had the feature implemented.
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Why "jerkbags"? Because MS now has sublicensing rights and Sony would be constantly making payments to the XBox team. How f'd up is that? I gotta give Sony props for saying f'k off to those guys.
IMO, MS's lack of compelling content and Sony's awesome thirdparty support will establish the PS3 as the dominant system in short measure. (I spent $1000 on my 360 preorder, so I'm no MS hater - just looking at what's obvious.)
I don't understand how Sony lost the court battle though. The case was about patent 6,275,213 and 6,424,333.
U.S. Patent 6,424,333 is a continuation application of prior U.S. application Ser. No. 09/561,782, filed on May 1, 2000 now U.S. Pat. No. 6,275,213, in the name of Marc Tremblay, et al., which is a continuation of prior U.S. patent application Ser. No. 09/066,608, filed on Apr. 24, 1998 now U.S. Pat. No. 6,088,017, which is a continuation of U.S. patent application Ser. No. 08/565,102, filed Nov. 30, 1995, abandoned; and all of which are incorporated herein by reference.
But dualshock for PS1 was released before even patent 6,088,017.
2nd April 1998: SCEE announces the latest breakthrough in hand held Controllers for PlayStation - the Analog Controller (DUAL SHOCK).
How come Sony had difficulty claiming prior art?
You can see how much Immersion is stretching here to find infringements:
the PlayStation technology in dispute "is a very small subset of vibrations" that occur in a joystick during a small number of events per game.
For example, he said, in "A Bug's Life," the ant in the game must jump first on an acorn, which then turns into a mushroom.
Powers said the vibration in question occurs only when the ant jumps on the mushroom several times.
wow...
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Tell me one thing that looks rad on the PS3....
The price? The games? That Warhawk looks like PS1!
I'm sure I'll get one, but it has to be the weakest console pre-launch EVER!
weak!
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Sorry.
Anyhow,Sony's making such fools of themselves lately I almost feel bad for them. :/
What's going on with them lately? plain incompetent? over-confident? just bad karma? (I'm not so sure about that last one)
("Double post!" whaaa? now there's something to prevent me of correcting my misreplies? it's a god damn conspiracy I tell you)
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They sound like the conservative government. I hope they grow the fuck up.
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Other times, Im like wtf is this piece of plastic vibrating in my hand really all about other than piss off my weak limp sauce RSI wrists....
I mean who gives a rats ass really, will this be make or break on someones console purchase?
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