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  The Hidden:Source Tips, Tricks and Info I notice some new people getting into the game and I figure I : 69shots
  • Nicely done. : Dslyecxi
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    How do you stick to ceilings as the hidden ? : r3ckless
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      hit pounce again (default:ctrl), when really near the ceiling, and facing the ceiling. Basically you c... : famine101
      • Ah, default ctrl! I wasn't sure if I had changed it or not. Oh well. :( : 69shots
    • You use the shift key (pounce key) while facing the ceiling or wall. Also, you can stick bodies to the ce... : 69shots
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    I'm surprised you haven't mentioned the hunt view that the Hidden has. This allows the hidden to spot IRI... : lyme
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      The laser sight is worthless regardless of what abilities the Hidden has. : Dslyecxi
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        doesnt the laser sight help you see the hidden if you sweep it over him? and having a crosshair for long... : smax
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          I never noticed it doing that. For me, the lasersight is extra visual "noise" that distracts my eye fr... : Dslyecxi
          • Oh snap! I forgot that "trick". I love playing dumb and letting the hidden think I can't see him. Lots of... : 69shots
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            easy trick: dont point your gun at places that make the laser sight easy to see. : mallrice
            • you can hit 'g' to turn on and off the laser light as well. : deathofrats
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    There's some rather big points that 29shots missed, but otherwise a good writeup. Sticking to ceilings... : famine101
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      Yeah, I'm sure there's alot I haven't covered. I was just hitting some of the things that new people usua... : 69shots
      • rgr that. Good writeup. Good luck at playing the Hidden. Much more fun, imo =) : famine101
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    Got the mod last night. It's OUTSTANDING. About you being anti-laser sight, however..I think you can ... : haloeXX
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      Sometimes I do carry the laser sight, it depends on the mood I am in. When I do I usually have it off whe... : 69shots
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        you can only resupply once someone has requested it from what i've gathered. But about giving away posit... : haloeXX
        • Not at all, the laser sights are the best give away to oncoming soldiers when the hidden is on the run. S... : 69shots
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      Need some help. I know I'm a dumb ass. I downloaded the game, ran the installer. I can't figure out ho... : TheArtMan
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        Yeah, thru steam. Just restart Steam and make a desktop shortcut if you want one. It runs off of hl2.exe. : 69shots
        • Thanks worked like a charm. The game is addictive. Like I need another avenue to give myself a heart at... : TheArtMan
  • excellent writeup, the more interest the better! This mod is definitely worth trying out folks, give it a... : askedrelic
  • I really should get this game. : ki11_viru5
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  so who wants to go to askedrelics public or private server for some hidden? : spector
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    I can play in about 3 hours. Got some things to take care of. : 69shots
    • alright man im going in ill be there waiting for you! : spector
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  Alright, I'll be in AskedRelics private PW'd server for any that want to play! : 69shots
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    i'm in! : megarust32
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      Need reinforcements! : Dslyecxi
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        Had to reboot, cleanup temp files, defrag, reset router, etc. I was having some horrendous lag. I was ... : 69shots
        • You guys still playing? : AndyGoin
  • I guess I'll finally give this a try. : Syixxs
• this mod looks totally awesome but the tutorial likes to lock my machine up. i hope it's not heat again :... : manero

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  Sell it and buy a DS. :) : Arcanum
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    I already have a DS! : not work safe
    • ds lite? : sabadog
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  Hmm, IMO the PSP screen shows way too much ghosting for such a relatively small display. Definitely worse... : bargeld
  • Oh yeah the ghosting is really bad. But the front end is really pretty. : not work safe
• Stare at it and think about how awesome metal slug anthology is going to be : JINKY
• If you enjoy platform titles at all, definitely check out Daxter. Really one of the best titles in the Ja... : drcomp
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  lots of stuff. Stream TV from your PC http://pspupdates.qj.net/TVSP-Setup-Guide-Now-Easier-to-Watch-... : ki11_viru5
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    Awesome. Its still at 1.50 firmware. : not work safe
    • damnit i found my brothers, he doesn't use it anymore and its 1.50 and he completely scratched the screen... : Flying h4x0r
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    This makes me wish I had never upgraded to 2.7 from 1.5. ;[ *Crys* : lightly inclined
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      you dolt! instead, you could have sold your 1.5 on eBay, then bought a 2.7 off eBay and a couple of games... : johnsto
      • Don't remind me, I feel sick as it is. : lightly inclined
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        how do you know the firmware version? I bought mine when they come out, but I have hardly used it. I wan... : vaniah
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          If you turn it on goto setting --> system settings--> system information That'll tell you what version... : ki11_viru5
          • cool I have 1.5, now I just gotta sell it on eBay! : vaniah
        • Goto settings and then System Information. P.S. Trade me! ;p : lightly inclined
      • I've got a 1.5... don't even use my PSP. How much do they normally go for if I were to sell it on ebay? M... : Pacalon
  • ^^ANYONE WITH A PSP!! READ THIS^^^ : ki11_viru5
  • omg thats awesome! Tagged PSP shit : Flying h4x0r
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    lol @ "send free SMS messages that cost other people money" Good list though. PSPRadio is by far one o... : johnsto
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      yea, i havn't actually tried it out. Also anyone know if the 360 uses IR for the wireless controllers? : ki11_viru5
      • No the 360 uses wifi iirc : not work safe
  • I don't even own a PSP, and this feels like it needs to be inf'd : weaselmeister
  • All this is fun stuff, and I held out with 1.5 for so long so I could use it, but to be honest I never di... : SiW73
  • sweet tagged psp good use : CplBeaker
  • anything but play a psp game AHAHAHAHAHAAH : gegtik
  • hmm, o_O and I've been wondering what to get for a self birthday treat.(16th btw lol) : xphil
  • Oh, that's nice! : bargeld
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    Mario on a Sony console? lol I can hear Nintendo fans all across the world screaming in agony. :D AAAaaaa : pillzer
    • you can also have mario on an xbox, mario on the pc, probably mario on your cell phone... : ermac
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    holy shit. I have my PSP in storage practically. I haven't played a game on it in months. Time to dust it... : edgewise
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      YES I forgot to post this in the one above. : ki11_viru5
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        and in that one. http://forums.qj.net/showthread.php?t=13796 : ki11_viru5
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          thanks! one basic question though. what exactly am I doing when I install KXploit? I mean, once I install... : edgewise
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            You don't need to download KXploit just to browse the files. You can do that straight out of the box. But... : ki11_viru5
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              so if all I want to do is watch avi's and divx's all I have to do is load them onto the memory stick? or ... : edgewise
              • No. You'll need a converter. The psp doesn't natively support these video formats. : ki11_viru5
• You can sit patiently and wait for the Street Fighter Alpha collection, or if you must use it right now, ... : Entity
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  i love all the people who insist on posting something about DS or how much the PSP sucks anytime the PSP ... : kill9
  • If by "love" you mean "get irritated to shit with", then I agree entirely, even if they hide behind some ... : Entity
  • Ditto. : lightly inclined
  • completely true : klearlyunseen
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  i want to get one of these in a few months when a few more awesome games come out for it. It's a great l... : Mr.SEX
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    actually a new firmware is going to start being implemented in the newer psps (2.7 iirc) I think there's ... : ki11_viru5
    • There aren't any downgraders for firmware past 2.0. ;[ : lightly inclined
• Use the psp as a cool remote for XBMC (if you have that) or install emulators and play NES games on it. T... : gummijoh

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  Carmack is starting to look like Steve Tyler. : NeoMoose
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    ... or Janet Reno : BenMurphy
    • indeed : drucifer
    • holy crap.. it IS Janet Reno! : Pacalon
    • agreed. he looks like a real douchebag. : biskits
  • "Could it be...SATAN?!" http://images.dailytech.com/nimage/1418_large_John-Carmack.png http://www.c... : Farbauti
• Wow, major fanboi alert on there huh? I love it when some internet geek says Carmack doesn't know what he... : Phreakin
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  anyone playing anything carmack created these days anyway? : ChickenBreath
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    http://archive.gamespy.com/stats/ why don't you add up the number of people playing games based off of... : gokart.
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      q2 almost has as many people playing it as quake 4, thats pretty sad :| : belal
      • Not really though, q2 has had 8 years to sell copies. Plus, almost every machine out there today can run... : Anti_dentite
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        I get maybe three servers with playable ping that are populated at any given time here. And usually those... : Judicator.Khas
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          copy protected password protected : Judicator.Khas
          • Don't copy that floppyserver! : rasputinreborn
    • Good to see Soldier of Fortune 2 still rocking :) : megarust32
    • yeah and the top ones that everyone is playing are non-id software games : ChickenBreath
  • You must be new to FPS gaming. Welcome though. : cam3lt0sis
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  I think carmack is kinda overrated. He's like a geek idol. I mean, yeah I'm sure he's a brilliant progr... : xocsida
  • He's pretty much at the top of his field. How is that overrated? Are the top sports players overrated? ... : Wheatloaf
  • So what's your point? The issue is entirely about game programming? : Chod
  • what? so it's bad to be famous for being the top in your field? I don't follow. he is getting kind of old... : thebigbeefsandwich
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    How often do people go "OMG, this nuclear power technology sucks because Carmack says it's no good!"? No... : Arcanum
    • ^^ Pretty much right here. He's one of the absolute best authorities on game engine programming, and e... : cam3lt0sis
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    He's a fucking rocket scientist, what do you want? : Rich McNinch
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      he's no scientist. he's just some guy that plays with rockets. no different than some kid down the stre... : ChickenBreath
      • So was Werner Von Braun. You have to start somewhere. : freqq28
  • When it comes to games and creating worlds, he knows what's easiest to create on. Other devs may discove... : Vic Viper
  • dude he is probably the best FPS developer out there. the man has made more money off FPS games then any... : jedi_27
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    I suppose he makes the best engines out there? what I want to know is why are they so specific looking (a... : jaga
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      perhaps you aren't familiar with the Quake1,2, and 3 engines... Did Heavy Metal FAKK2, Alice, and Quake 3... : derelict515
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        Yeah they did tbh. Every engine, not just id ones, has its own look that ends up being subtlely common to... : GilesH
        • there may be some subtlety but its not nearly as bad as he's making it out to be. I did understand some o... : derelict515
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    no, you're wrong. Carmack isn't just a good programmer, he is a programming God. Start digging into the n... : lord cecil
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      Example: http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/1170/doom32gh.jpg : Vic Viper
      • lolololol : metralgia
      • thread should have ended with this post. : spdon
    • You do realize that he also took a lot of concepts developed in academia and just refined them for applic... : Fred Garvin
  • i'd actually like to give him a slap in the face for taking the focus off of game content and moving it t... : ChickenBreath
• We are talking about a guy who programmed for the Atari Jaguar and liked it. : baron calamity
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  Didn't they say the PS2 was hard to program for too? : Patch-e
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    They are difficult to program for. : Kentor
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      Ok, so look how the PS2 turned out. Someone saying the PS3 is hard to program for is pretty much meaningl... : Patch-e
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        Yeah but that was the first console released out of the three. Now that the PS3 is probably the last one ... : Mad Brahmin Disease
        • Exactly. Now devs have a lot more options laying in front of them. : cam3lt0sis
      • It turned out with the worst graphics of the three. If you're talking about sales, that's something else... : DinK
      • It's not meaningless at all. The PS2 didn't obtain it's current status because it is difficult to progra... : omnova
  • So was the Saturn and that didn't turn out very well. : freshyk
• he didnt say it was difficult ie "omg i cant figure it out", he was saying that you had to do some extra : sexninja!!!!
• id Studios huh? : not work safe
• I imagine you have to think about all the implications of the difficulty to really get the full weight of... : cam3lt0sis
• I'm not surprised, but Carmack is pretty special in that he churns out major-league engines almost single... : johnsto
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  But...the ps2 was hard to program for and it still sold well. : GeorgeB3DR
  • Don't you dare contradict our Carmack! : Hatta
  • Sony has more competition this time round though : tbreffni
  • Carmack still thinks it will sell.... : alexthegreat2
  • It doesn't doom the console, but it doesn't help, either. If Microsoft and Nintendo manage to get good i : Arcanum
  • http://www.shacknews.com/ja.zz?id=12144443 : Mad Brahmin Disease
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    I think "hard to program for" is not a well understood statement by non-programmers. I've stepped through... : yakz
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      I interpreted what he said as "this requires a programming model very different than any other game-relat... : Arcanum
      • Well, I would agree with that. Why reinvent the wheel when IBM's automated and highly specialized archite... : yakz
  • MEDIA ALERT :: DNF to be PS3 exclusive "just for spite" : essdub
  • And it was, and the complexity hurt 1st gen games. I should think with the increased cost of game dev in... : chazums
  • True, but the Saturn was also reputedly hard to program... : cipherbob
  • The customers aren't doing the programming, duh. =) : DinK
  • it wasn't competing with anything like XB360/XNA though : Gaurav Sharma
• It's just a bit more work on the engine side, which devs may just liscense anyway. I can't see a studio s... : fen boi
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  Carmack is for the most part, a PC Games developer. They only recently started making games for the conso... : VegasX
  • True enough, but I think he knows so much about the mechanics of the games pipeline and 3d graphics that ... : chazums
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    Fine. I was an embedded tools developer who worked alongside some people making Cell dev tools and _I_ s... : Zero|DPX
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      Interesting, more or less difficult than ps2 programming would you say? : chazums
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        I didn't say "PS3 programming", I said "Cell programming". I don't know jack about how hard game console... : Zero|DPX
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          Why is it hard to program for? I've not looked at it in any great detail, but it felt similar to old NeXT... : bostrov
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            Basically, it's as tricky as programming a system with 1 master PCU and an 8-execution-unit DSP, except i... : Zero|DPX
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              It think game programmers are already used to it though, and have been since DX8 / OpenGL 1.3 and program... : bostrov
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                Yeah, but the DSP has local memory for the DSP, not for each separate execution unit on it. If the Cell ... : Zero|DPX
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                  Holy acronyms batman :(. : Ecks
                  • There's only three and they're all known to anyone interested in this stuff. : Zero|DPX
    • I'm not denoting his abilities, I'm just saying Carmack is not the authority...now if they interviewed 20... : VegasX
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    He's probably programmed on more systems than that (look at his cell phone and rocket ship development). ... : Ecks
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      Im not arguing his devleopment prowess, Im just saying he probably isnt the end all and be all of product... : VegasX
      • I would disagree. My point was, that even though SDK's, hardware, and inputs change, the programming is ... : Ecks
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      You know, I think Carmack is a genius, but I also thing people under the misconception that he is TEH GR... : Fred Garvin
      • God, I'm the Lord Of Typoes today. I meant to say "think people labour under the misconception". : Fred Garvin
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        I would agree, but I also think he wouldn't make a statement like that unless he's absolutely sure of it.... : Ecks
        • True, but he has jumped the gun in the past and made soem statements that are kind of out there. I rememb... : Fred Garvin
  • But he's also one of the most brilliant and resourceful programmers in games, ever. If he says a platfor : EvilDolemite
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  I'm surprised there's any debate here. Clearly Carmack knows his shit, the PS2 was hard to develop for an... : edgewise
  • But he isn't god and didn't invent everything. These are things that must be pointed out. : vigilante
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  Way to take things out of context. He also said Sony will succeed just because it's more difficult to co... : Edges
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    Are you sure you're not putting that out of context? When I saw the interview I thought he had said that ... : Judicator.Khas
    • I'm confused now! : Edges
  • WTF are you talking about. Even if he said that it's total BS. Deadlines are usually so tight you just do... : Fred Garvin
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  Doesn't Carmack sit on some Xbox360 developers board? I'd take his statements with a little bit of salt i... : aeg1x
  • He's also a fan of OpenGL which is what Sony is using for PS3. : freshyk
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    he's the last guy I'd accuse of being a shill. : edgewise
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      I'd take your opinion with a grain of salt too :P Let's be honest here... this site is built on quake... : aeg1x
      • He never said anything about it scaring away developers, merely that it's difficult to program for. Th... : Overbyte
      • See.. that's where you are wrong. Dognose has a photo of GeorgeB. :P : laidback
  • Carmack regularly sits on various development boards, IIRC. He also tends to get asked by hardware devel... : Arcanum
  • I sit on a few boards and I wouldn't do it unless I thought it was a good idea. I'm sure that Carmach app... : Fred Garvin
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  Dude, seriously, he looks like a woman from the 80s.... : Smellsy
  • http://www.usdoj.gov/crt/ada/images/agreno.jpg : drucifer
  • like http://images.google.com/images?client=opera&rls=en&q=karen%20corr with blonde hair? (I remember ... : the archvile
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  lmao @ shackers trying to discredit carmack. : tension
  • I found that really amusing also : kelerian
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    Who is trying to discredit him? The point is that yes, he is a genius and yes he's done some really cool ... : Fred Garvin
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      That's a game-feature opinion of his and that's something that even he has admitted he's staying away fro... : -efx-
      • why? just because he's blubbering that he doesn't understand multi-threaded programming? that doesn't ex... : ChickenBreath
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      He is one of the foremost authorities when it comes to game and graphics programming. Of course his word... : omnova
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        graphics not games. his "games" are freakin boring to say the least. at least since doom. no more romer... : ChickenBreath
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          This relates to my post how? : omnova
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            you said he was an authority on game programming. i think there's mroe to it than just making a shiny cu... : ChickenBreath
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              Game design != game programming. : omnova
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                without a design there is no program his designs are flawed. the fun factor is low so his programming g... : ChickenBreath
                • As a programmer, I have to say: your arguments are retarded, but somewhat amusing. Keep them coming :) : Zero|DPX
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                  How do you explain the multiple titles that devs have made out of his code and engines. Even if you don't... : -efx-
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                    no, but i don't think id deserves any more credit for someone else's game than does the creator of the c+... : ChickenBreath
                    • We're not even talking about that though. We are talking about efficient, smooth code. If you can't see h... : -efx-
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                  Without a floorplan, the bricks don't exist! : TimeServ
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                    do you listen to beethoven's music or the music of the guy that made his piano? : ChickenBreath
                    • who would you ask to build you a piano or repair a piano? : lacker
                    • Without the piano I'd hear the music just as well as Beethoven. : -efx-
                    • Neither. Beethoven sucks. : TimeServ
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                      You're talking about something completely different than what everyone else in this thread is talking abo : electroly
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                        it all boils down to this: i've now spent more time playing bf2 than i have doom and all the quakes comb... : ChickenBreath
                        • if that's the measuring stick then blizzard wins : lacker
                        • That doesn't say anything about his programming skills. : crummynz
                        • It all boils down to this: Carmack is widely respected for what he is doing and has a lot of input on how... : -efx-
                        • lol. i love to watch you post. it's like the worst car wreck ever. : cam3lt0sis
            • Not at its core no. If you find id's games boring that's fine but that has little to do with how well his... : -efx-
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    whats so great about him other than he has some fast cars that he will probably just wreck at 200mph kill... : ChickenBreath
    • I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not. : Ecks
    • Thats actually the best arguement I've seen so far against carmack. : losder5000
    • lol : crummynz
    • Wha... : Chris Remo
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      haha i love it. it's like fisher price my first troll : lacker
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        lol.. but really i'm not joking. i mean i think the real credit should go to the content developers not... : ChickenBreath
        • I just know Quake 3 is soooo smooth. : lacker
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          I agree carmack is over-rated as a game developer - but some of your facts were a bit off and all... h... : abrasion
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            Did any other engine look as good as Doom3 when it was released? Or Quake 3? 2? 1? Doom? : lacker
            • http://www.shacknews.com/screens.x/doom3/DOOM+III/1/thumbs/092303_doom3_1.jpg : lacker
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              read my post plz, rather than blindly reply. : abrasion
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                I did read it. How is he over-rated? Isn't he a great programmer that knows hardware? I think his opinion... : lacker
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                  You're just not reading my post - am I really in the mood for this? Carmack is and always has be... : abrasion
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                    I thought his expertise as a coder was the reason his opinion on the PS3 matters. : lacker
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                      You are _still_ missing my point. I'm not debating that - not for a second - I'm saying this guys SECO... : abrasion
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                        but his game design credentials (or lack thereof) are irrelevant in this discussion. : lacker
                        • To the original discussion, maybe. In reply to chickenbreath it's probably relevant. : crummynz
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                          I'm talking about this post. http://www.shacknews.com/ja.zz?id=12147029 NOT the PS3 post. I don't ... : abrasion
                          • do some pushups to relieve stress : lacker
    • This is such a beautiful trainwreck of illogic. : omnova
    • You rule. : brickmatt
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      DAIKATANA WAS REVOLUTIONARY. : draconic
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        no worth than the umpteenth iteration of a cyborg dog or a spider that shoots nails : ChickenBreath
        • Wait, did you jutht type a lithp? : Rich McNinch
    • Wow, I should have read this post before responding to your previous one. Can't argue with some nice a-gr... : -efx-
    • HI2U John Romero how ur daikatana? : Jayx77
    • WHAT A HORRIBLE POST : mr.sleepy
    • Wow. : TastyWheat
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      I don't think anyone anticipates a new id game for their story, gameplay, or art design. IT'S ALL ABOUT ... : mrfunky3000
      • How about the Spanish Inquisition? : Fred Garvin
    • Chickenbreath is obviously Romero's Character Account. And he's drunk again. : freqq28
    • Daggah, is that you? Your arguments sound exactly the same as his! Somebody find a link to that thread an... : carnivore
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      Lets see how many Carmack haters will buy ETQW. I have all the names !! :) : Cashh
      • Splash Damage is making ETQW not id : spdon
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  It's still making me cry at how much ignorance is in this thread just because someone said something "bad... : kelerian
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    but dude i don't even play his games therefore his engines suck. therefore he knows nothing about prog : cam3lt0sis
    • Yeah. Fanboys taking this whole thing the wrong way. Guess I could clarify for them: Nobody's saying the : kelerian
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    What I'd like to see is a comparision of how difficult it is to do programming for the Wii or the XBox 36... : Maddog_Delphi97
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      Considering MS has extensive experience (and draws a good deal of revenue) in creating development tools ... : -Panther-
      • You still need to make your engine 3 (or maybe 6) way multithreaded, make huge HD art assets, and charge ... : jcupitt
      • Yeah, most developers who've said anything about dealing with the XBox and 360 say it's a dream to code f... : Entity
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  This thread apparently has many new gamers that don't quite GET the 'Carmack Pedestal Theory'... and the ... : Downforce
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    I hear Carmack likes widescreen. : Fred Garvin
    • No, Widescreen is hard to program. : Entity
  • I support this man's sentiments. : cam3lt0sis

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  "let me show the chainsaw" that was awesome. : broly1718
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    Linkage please :) : Lightzout
    • It was on g4's coverage, so it might be on their site. but here is a video to tide you over. ht... : broly1718
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  More like Cliffy tellin' it like it is! (J)ibs, dammit! Oh, let's not do this again, LOL : mn3m0n1c
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    Whoever was arguing for a g in gib like you'd hear in "gravy," well, they need to just kill themselves. ... : cam3lt0sis
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      Umm its (G)IB.. like if it was (J)IB it would be spelt (J)IB you wacko : cncpun
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        the founders of the term seem to believe otherwise : kill9
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          They're crazy and confused : megarust32
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            Then the founders are dumb and should be shot :) Language evolves... if it spread to mainstream I don't t... : cncpun
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              thank god we don't run our government this way. :/ : biskits
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                um sarcastic much? See the Smiley? and wtf does government have to do with this. : cncpun
                • if it spread to mainstream I don't think it matters what the founders though[t]. that was said after t... : biskits
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        IAWTP : megarust32
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          This really isn't something you can "agree" or "disagree" with. Id Software began the game related use... : cam3lt0sis
          • Potato, potato : Crimsonbeak
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            I would argue that whatever term the majority uses is the correct one :P : aeg1x
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              http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gibs#Pronunciation In pronunciation terms, the majority uses "jib." The ... : cam3lt0sis
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                I've been playing FPS's since they came out and I still call them (g)ibs with the hard g. For 2 reasons,... : Crimsonbeak
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                  Ohh and also if it was up to id on how to speak then we would have to say umm every third work just like ... : Crimsonbeak
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                    No. It's not up to them how we speak. We're just discussing where a word came from and how it was suppo... : cam3lt0sis
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                      Gigabyte was originally pronounced "Jigabyte" (like giant). Are you going to keep up that tradition too? ... : aeg1x
                      • NEEDS MORE JIGGAWATTS : kill9
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                        I've certainly never heard of this original pronounciation. If this is in fact true, then perhaps. Al... : cam3lt0sis
                        • http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giga#Pronunciation Both pronunciations are in the dictionary as well. I'd... : aeg1x
                • it sounds so retarded you mean. : Simulacrum
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                been calling it (g)ibs since Quake1. if they wanted (j)ibs it should have been spelled that way. : Slowtreme
                • Perhaps. This is not what is at issue though, sadly. Pronounce it however you'd like. Just understan... : cam3lt0sis
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                  It is spelled that way. How the fuck do you say gym or giraffe or stfu. : vigilante
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                    Gynocologist. : Crimsonbeak
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                      What is your point? I'm not the one that thinks all words that start with g should be pronounced the sam... : vigilante
                      • You are all fucking nuts. : Q-ball
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                Ok, so according to wikipedia, "gib" is derived from "giblet." According to Webster's, both "jiblet" and ... : algernoN8
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                  the American Heritage Dictionary only provides one pronunciation: http://dictionary.reference.com/search?... : biskits
                  • Well, gosh. Webster's includes slang in their lexicon, so we should completely ignore them in our highly ... : algernoN8
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            Language/words evolve... Many many words have been changed pronouncation through history : cncpun
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              yeah but in this case it hasn't changed nub : kill9
              • nub? does that rhyme with tub? : dodob
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              show me a few. : biskits
              • herb ,vitamins, basil, aluminum...? : mindmann
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                Are you seriously that naive? Go watch any play by Shakespheare : cncpun
                • I'll go find some books on it at the libary. : cam3lt0sis
                • by whom? :D : biskits
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              Let me get this straight then. Since so many dunces pronounce "library" libary," we should just accept i... : cam3lt0sis
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                No you didn't get that straight. See above. : cncpun
                • I'm just letting library get a new way of being pronounced, that's all. I mean, words evolve. Library... : cam3lt0sis
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        trying to teach me how something was "spelt" doesn't exactly make you a credible resource. : biskits
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          settle down holmes : cncpun
          • i didn't put any excitement, aggression, or emphasis into my words. if anything, the remark was glib. i... : biskits
      • It comes from the term Giblets.. Pronounced "Jiblets".. Like Giblets and gravy. http://dictionary.re... : AndyGoin
      • Like gin right? : flooq
    • You know, I used to think that way, until i realized that it makes more sense if you say it (J)IB. As in... : dopeman
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    AHHHH!!! The mark of the beast!!! It's GIB, like Barry 'GIBB'!!!! this is totally the right answer, be... : Downforce
    • Filthy, filthy downforce. : cam3lt0sis
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  that game pushes me very hard toward buying a 360.. (and then the Wii later on)... need to go look up wh... : dextius
  • ok, whatever.. it won't be out until november.. I can happily wait for the Wii if that game doesn't come ... : dextius
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  here's a crappy 1 min capture for ya lightzout: : pyide
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    http://dzzy.shackspace.com/CliffyB-G4.wmv : pyide
    • sweeeeet : RikiTiki2
    • That was hot - the RE4 inspired chainsaw attack. : Porkasaurus
    • Heh, awesome. : nomaad
    • That'd be cool if the had the model split apart with each side bending back a bit. Maybe next next gen? :... : robingchyo
    • sweet jesus christ, that chainsaw was awesome! : biskits
    • Thumbs up for chainsaw! : Mad Brahmin Disease
    • that chainsaw was awesome! : sikander
    • Adam was like "OMFG" Olivia was just like umm ok let me spout off my line so I can go have a smoke and g... : Crimsonbeak
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      And Cliffy uses the Turkey Giblets example here too! THIS IS THE WAY TO SAY IT FOLKS, AND THE ULTIMATE R... : dopeman
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        CliffyB is not linguist. : Rice-Rocketeer
        • Not *a* linguist, rather. : Rice-Rocketeer
      • Well......... 'gibs' is an "imaginary" backforming from the diminutive form 'giblets' so........... : GreatGooglyMoogly
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  Steve sCary Jibson : rosewood
  • Owned : Hatta
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    yeah cause completely unrelated words should dictate how we prounce things : kill9
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      And a bunch of computer nerds in Texas makes any more sense? "Oh, thats what the devs at id called it" : rosewood
      • seeing as how the term originated with id in the context that it's being used, yes it makes sense. and w... : kill9
      • How about how related words are pronounced? What kind of sense does that make rosey? : vigilante
  • Giblets : Ben Barker
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  Mana is "mah-nah" goddamnit, any time I hear someone say "MAN-uh" out loud I have to restrain the urge to... : yAak
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    i say man-ah. and shay-men. kinda hard to change those. i tried and failed. : pyide
    • I pronounce it 'Throat-wobbler mangrove' : drucifer
    • man-ah I can understand, but Shay-man? O_o : dodob
    • well, at least you tried, so i wont punch you in the throat if i see you! : yAak
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  GIBS, YOU HEATHENS. FOR CRYING OUT LOUD, IT IS GIBS. I DON'T CARE WHAT THE ORIGINATORS INTENDED IT TO BE.... : Rice-Rocketeer
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    You really can't argue with allcaps. This man is right. : Mad Brahmin Disease
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      What if it's allcaps....and underlined? : megarust32
      • *slaps forehead* Why didn't I think of that?! : Mad Brahmin Disease
      • Also bold, italic and multisync : Hatta
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    GIB IS LIKE BARRY GIBB WHO IS A NOTORIOUS HOMO. DO THE MATH! : Simulacrum
    • Well, you can tell by the way I use my walk, I’m a woman’s man: no time to talk : drucifer
  • we need some kind of Nuculer solution to this problem. : flibble2k
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  Pet peeves are one thing, but this thread is making even normal people flip out. Who cares how the ne... : jackrabbit
  • everybody. : biskits
  • More like gackrabbit, amirite?! : Mad Brahmin Disease
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    It's like watching religious people flip out over their made up crap. : algernoN8
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      Dude, I bet JESUS didn't say Jibs. : crummynz
      • Jesus was originally pronounced Gesus. : aeg1x
      • You mean Gesus? : yAak
    • Baby Gebus is crying somewhere. : Mad Brahmin Disease
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      yeah, it's exactly like that. I'll bet the Crusades were fought over pronunciation. : jackrabbit
      • Actually, it's a little known fact that the crusades were fought over whether it's pronounced shalom, or ... : Hatta
  • The word comes from "giblets" which is said with a J sound. End of fucking thread. (I used to say it with... : nudel
• ne1 wan go to da libary in febuary. i dun heard they got dem dare books : RikiTiki2
• the game looks awesome. its a system seller thats for sure . . . . i need to pre-order this week : jedi_27
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  Gibs and jif, dammit. :( : omnova
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    You contradict yourself. All hail the J... the G people are GAY. : Simulacrum
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      Is your first name Jay, by any chance? : Mad Brahmin Disease
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        Actually it starts with G... *head asplode* : Simulacrum
        • Hi there, Geoff. : Mad Brahmin Disease
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  Why has this ever been debated? It's an abbreviation of "giblets" for fucks sake. Hopefully you all know ... : blackhawk
  • Sadly, many people do not. (And id Software, coiner of the word, say it's pronouced "jibs", so there is ... : RatBastard
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  People who pronounce data as datt-uh, that's my pet peeve. Dayt-uh forever! : Simulacrum
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    data. : drucifer
    • hello computer : pyide
• It's like Gob (Job) vs. Gob (THE MAGICIAN NAMED GOB!) : freshyk
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  doesn't it come from the word giblet? wouldn't it follow that you pronounce it the same way? : thebigbeefsandwich
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    giblet can be pronounced either way. http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=giblets http://dictionary.... : Simulacrum
    • then why the fuck can't gib be prononounced either way too? >:( : drucifer
    • WE'RE GOING IN CIRCLES OVER HERE! : Mad Brahmin Disease
    • I've only heard it pronounced the j way myself so I figure the game term should be the same. : thebigbeefsandwich
• I always thought it was a shortened term for giblet, which can be pronounced either way, so it really doe... : Simulacrum
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  aluminum vs. aluminium : RikiTiki2
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    There's no fucking debate there either. It's "aluminium". Just cos you guys drop an "i" and pronounce it ... : blackhawk
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      then why is there an American dictionary? : drucifer
      • So everyone else can see what Americans are getting wrong? : blackhawk
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    solved: http://www.dayah.com/periodic/ click on it and find out. : Downforce
    • its funny how if you click on it its says its Aluminium : snowwolf
    • working link: http://www.dayah.com/periodic/?lang=en_gb : crummynz
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      Except you can change the language to "English (US)" blergh and it's down as good ol' Aluminum. Truth ... : blackhawk
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        The metric system memo, as well? : Mad Brahmin Disease
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          Both the UK and US got that memo. Both are still pretty much ignoring it. : flooq
          • Really? I thought the UK had converted to the light side :( : crummynz
  • There's no argument here. Americans say it wrong. Why dont they write all of the other X-ium elements as ... : thecray
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  Do you pronounce a .gif GIF or JIB? Hint, it's GIF. End of thread. : mofo
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    Meant JIF. : mofo
    • lol : crummynz
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    That doesn't really have anything to do with the thread : Chris Remo
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      I look at it from the point of view of consistency and making sense. : mofo
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        But there's no consistence there, the word "gib" has nothing to do with the word "GIF." They aren't rela... : Chris Remo
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          he meant HIS consistency : ermac
          • If he ate more fibre he wouldn'tnned to worry about that. : RatBastard
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    Sorry, Mofo. It's "jif", like the peanut butter. The guy who created teh file format says it's "jif". ... : RatBastard
    • http://www.shacknews.com/ja.zz?id=12148842 disclaimer: I pronounce it jif but i thought it was a funny : RikiTiki2
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  Can't we get a gif of some jibs? : jcutner
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    http://images.google.com/images?q=gibs.gif : drucifer
    • only one of those is even related :( : RikiTiki2
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  I love it when you show someone that they've been doing (or in this case pronouncing) something wrong, an... : Arsenal
  • I'm conservative and against change. Please don't make me change my ways. : ki11_viru5
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    The thing about gif is that I've NEVER heard it pronounced with a soft G. Whereas gib seems to be pronoun... : thecray
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      i've never heard library or february pronounced right either : RikiTiki2
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        You havent? How would you miss-pronounce them? : thecray
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          i don't, but i've never heard them right from others : RikiTiki2
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            I dont mean you in particular. I just dont see how to pronounce them wrong. : thecray
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              "Febuary." I hear it this way FAR more frequently than the correct way. I'm not sure what he means wit... : Chris Remo
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                you've never heard libary? it's almost standard round these parts : RikiTiki2
                • Holy shit. I think I would punch someone if the mouth if I heard them say "libary". Now that I think a... : thecray
              • Yeah :\ The Daily Show announcer makes me cringe throughout the entire month of February, every year. Oh : GreatGooglyMoogly
  • i still pronounce linux wrong sometimes. : pyide
  • This is exactly what's happening too. I recall always pronouncing it (g)ibs for the looooongest time. T... : cam3lt0sis
  • I know I'm wrong in calling it gibs without the j sound but I'll still keep doing it! : kelerian
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  gibs is short for giblets. : essdub
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    Which, according to Webster's, can be pronounced either with a hard or a soft 'g'. : Hatta
    • is the soft G a regional thing? i've lived in the south and i've never the hard G : RikiTiki2
    • show of hands on who actually calls turkey guts giblets with a hard g. I've never heard that from anyone. : thebigbeefsandwich
  • pronounced "jiblets" lollololo!!! : reverend~heresy
• you're all a bunch of nerds and I pray for the deaths of each and every one of you Carry on! :D : mikecyb

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  Whoever loses - Nintendo wins :/ : crummynz
  • So much for the "Nintendo is done" predictions of a year ago. Kind of funny to see how far they've come i... : Ratsofatsorat
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    I was in love with Nintendo again until the No High Def on Wii : Mondo
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      All the Nintendo made games do widescreen progressive at least, in case you didn't know that. I know it'... : Boxelder
      • That would sealed the deal! : Mondo
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        Is that confirmed? _all_ games do 16:9 480P? : abrasion
        • Like he said, all Nintendo-made games will, they've confirmed that. Publishers can do what they want. A... : Chris Remo
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      i was in love with the 360 until i realized my PC can do double the resolution! more pixels makes gam... : pyide
      • double the resolution? holy crap. what res do you run at? : crummynz
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        yeah more pixels makes games more fun. what a statement that one is. : phil_mckraken
        • i think hes joking dude : abrasion
      • Especially Operation Flashpoint. It's fucking awesome when you go to snipe or scope and no longer is the ... : MrLonghair
    • you must hate DVDs too, cause the Wii runs @ the same res. : aethyr
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      It's the other way around here in Europe, sort of. "Oh, it does HDTV resolutions? Fuck that, 95% of us... : MrLonghair
      • It must be like living in hell over there :( : quietb0y
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        Yeah, I'm having trouble finding a HDTV set of any size or format under 3000USD that isn't total crap. :(... : SilverSnake
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          And by "any size" I mean at least 30 inches... Because anything smaller then that is just pointless to ha... : SilverSnake
          • I want the 42" plasma one we have on the show :( : MrLonghair
      • yeah, that's my exact argument. I really don't give a shit about HDTV currently. : aaarrrgh
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  Nintendo responds: Yes, yes, buy us as a 2nd system for either system, hell, buy us as a first system AN : Lunatic Angelic
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    "Then buy the purple one we release in january, the black one we release in may, and the smaller one we r... : lapskaus
    • Truth in RAW uncompressed format here baby! : Ratalon
• This is getting comical. : omnova
• * I K N O W Y O U A R E S O W H A T A M I ' D * : Rich McNinch
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  I don't get the buying "after a PS3/360" remarks or people that seem to think the Wii won't outsell both ... : AndyGoin
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    Agreed. It's the only one of the 3 that me and a lot of people will likely buy. : dognose
    • it could happen, but i think it depends on nintendo getting a good run of titles early on that will attra... : disembodied potato
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    not gonna happen. : abrasion
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      Oh yes sir, it is gonna happen. And what actually confirms that is the range of games they released on th... : Mad Brahmin Disease
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        Won't happen. Know why? The Madden and GTA customers. : prfectjon
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          Madden will be on the Wii, and it will be so much more awesome on it with the whole gyro stuff. :P *ta : SilverSnake
          • Yeah, but it will be the XBox 1 version of Madden, not the 360/PS3 version of Madden. : johnny skidmarks
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          Yes but North America != world. : Mad Brahmin Disease
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            NA is the largest piece of the pie in the console market. Win in NA and you have the best chance to win ... : jedi_27
            • Yes but these two games aren't gonna cut it this time, especially as it'll be the last and the most expen... : Mad Brahmin Disease
            • Actually Europe is eclipsing it now with the growing eastern european markets. : node
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          I'll see your Madden and GTA customers and raise you a Mario, Zelda, Smash Bros, Pokemon, Metroid, ANNNND... : AndyGoin
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            hahahah. thats funny. The GTA series on the PS2 outsold all of the games you mentioned combined. : jedi_27
            • If you are refering to just Gamecube yes, if you are refering to all Marios, etc. then no. : Chod
          • and like the cube and n64 those and 1 or 2 others games are all most people will buy for the wii. : notext
          • You do realize that teh GameCube had the same classic nintendo franchises and still did "poorly". : gndagger
  • The Wii isn't going to outsell either platform. The only place where Wii will have greater market penetra... : gndagger
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  !?!?!? So Microsoft and Sony are just arguing about whose console people will buy in addition to Nintend... : Chris Remo
  • hahaha that's exactly what i was thinking. Would be so funny if Nintendo ended up outselling both. : mnok
  • Pretty much, crazy, eh? : Ecks
  • hedging their bets . . . . they both think the Nintendo price point is going to help them do well com... : jedi_27
  • Not really. MS made the statement and Sony copied them. Peter Moore never said, "Nooooo OUR system will s... : red2lucas
  • Exactly what I fucking thought. This is fantastic. :P : K1Bond007
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  hahaha Sony STOLE MS's comment : thebigbeefsandwich
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    Why not? They copied live from MS and the tilt controller from Nintendo, oh, and also they came out with ... : Dynotaku
    • Technically they stole the dualshock from someone else: http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20060313-63... : gndagger
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  Very much in a different market? Yeah, Sony's market is the one labeled "underpowered and prohibitive... : notd665
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    underpowered? it, from what I can gather will be the most powered console. : Grandmoff
    • From it's price, you would think it'd be more powerful than a $200 less Xbox 360. : critch
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      From listening to developers, only marginally over the 360. : node
      • And you wouldn't know if from looking at their E3 offerings. : gndagger
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  lolol, guess what phil and peter, its the only next-gen system ill purchase within the next 3 years! : yAak
  • yeah really. well i might get a 360 within those 3 years, if the price drops. but the ps3 is not even... : pyide
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  What I would pay to find out the inner thoughts in their heads after Nintendo presented the Wii.. : MrLonghair
  • Well I know what went through Sony's head back at the Tokyo Game show. Fuck we need to put that in to ou... : Crimsonbeak
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  This has absolutely nothing to do with nintendo. This is all a passive aggressive way to put down who th... : rahba
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    Except that 360 does have the best tool out of the 3... something about Microsoft being the defacto indu... : Kentor
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      My point is that I would trust even your opinion (some shacker I've never met) over what the CEOs, Presid... : rahba
      • That is quite a pragmatic solution, yes. : Kentor
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  Even though Nintendo stole the show, I don't think they're going to dominate the US market with the Wii. ... : edgewise
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    It'll definitely be interesting. As far as the current market of established/hardcore gamers I think you... : Boxelder
    • Damn new first post! : Boxelder

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  What no love for Armed Assault ? : Umbr
  • sorry, too busy fapping. : nyranger66
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  This trailer > all the others. They weren't lying about the improved animation - shame about the framerat... : 60days
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    It's still in alpha though, so i wouldn't worry about it just yet. : nyranger66
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      Huh? It's still in alpha? Isn't that shit supposed to come out in July? : Drewus
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        I wouldn't be surprised if the game isn't actually in alpha, or that if it is, it means less than it woul... : Dslyecxi
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          Incidentally i installed and loaded up Flashpoint the other night. I totally forgot how unfair/unreali... : Drewus
          • Oh, really? While the AI has some issues, I generally find their detection to be pretty believable. I... : Dslyecxi
  • Apparently they captured it with something like FRAPS, so I wouldn't be too concerned about that. : Dslyecxi
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  That looks great. Flashpoint 1.5 or not. Can't wait to play with the mission editor in this as well. : trOmblyj
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    Adding the ability to join mid-game and a little better handling of mods is enough for me to pay another ... : sanchez
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      Honestly, the inability to join mid-game is really the only reason why I don't play in the GoonShackbattl... : nyranger66
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        That drives me insane. We get a good game going, and... people drop. It's usually not their fault (crash,... : Dslyecxi
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          I don't rememer but did they say anything about redoing the netcode also? Having a 243957820394820394 des... : sanchez
          • I believe the fact that they have JIP pretty much guarantees that the desync thing will be long gone. I c... : Dslyecxi
• Who the fuck are you, and why did you steal my post? =( Seriously though, that's insanely badass. Ther... : Dslyecxi
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  oh wow, beautiful game, the view distance is crazy. : voodooraze
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    Flashpoint has always had nice view distance, but I agree this looks especially beautiful (especially wit... : trOmblyj
    • Flashpoint maxed out at a 5 kilometer view distance (emphasis for those unfamiliar with how badass the ga : Dslyecxi
• So many good games comming out its going to be hard to split my time up. : deeveee
• Haha, man. So many cool subtle details in that. I love that there's now the .50cal M2 machinegun on the M... : Dslyecxi
• oh my god. very nice. : adambugger
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  Hey guys, did you hear? There's an ArmA trailer, and it's badass! Whee! : Dslyecxi
  • so excited, I just cant wait!!! looks awesome woooooo : SAS_Ale
• Looks damn fine to me. Now they just need to quit teasing and release the thing. : Syixxs
• what's a mez : Foxhawk
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  New Screens & Info & Stuff One of the guys from the WW2EC team was at E3 and checked out the ArmA boot : Dslyecxi
  • The map screen looks infinitely better than OFP's. Hell, a lot of things do. : joe.gonzalez
  • Hot shit! : awoihjaweohr
  • I cant wait to be a cobra whore. : deeveee
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  http://www.umbr.net/ makes me sad :( : sikander
  • lol Im to lazy to do any sort of site. Just use it for file storage and mail. : Umbr
• Map size illustration, since we're still in FP. Still. http://www.vicdsl.plus.com/Map.png : Dslyecxi
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  meh : glio1337
  • Meh? Meh?! >:( : lord warlock
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    You're dead to me. : Dslyecxi
    • meh :P : glio1337

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  Damn, the dude has the same psycho grin in every picture. : Mad Brahmin Disease
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    * S T A R E G I R L ' D * : ghost hacker
    • My thoughts exactly: http://www.drac.org/wtf/staregirl.gif : Cognoscenti
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  yeah, but that bianca chick that dressed up as the baddie from Sin was insanely hot. They voted her #1 o : dextius
  • She was at E3? Those pictures that Ritual took are hot :~( : aggressor
  • I don't know - I like Jessica Cannon's model more (probably because I like the character more) : Postal
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  At least this guy didn't stick his hand up the girl's skirts like that one bastard a few years back. But ... : ctlaltl33t
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    Wait, you're not supposed to fingerfuck the models? : yakz
    • Not unless your name is Steve Gibson : ctlaltl33t
    • List of places to go before I die: E3 :( : losimagic
• I think I know which one his wife is in...... : BenMurphy
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  What happened to the booth babes? Get a little to kinky for some people? : suicidemachine
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    all the geeks were afraid of them : drucifer
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      Geeks are afraid of any woman. : suicidemachine
      • not the pixel one's. : lonestar3
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    E3 is trying to be more professional and less sleezy. And yeah, the girls were getting a bit too strippe... : RatBastard
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      there is no such thing as too stripperific : drucifer
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        Unless you are trying to show the press that the gaming world has grown up. : RatBastard
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          lol, it hasn't though : drucifer
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            Well great, now you fuckin told them. We had them going for a while. : ]aratex[
            • :( : drucifer
    • I see.... : suicidemachine
• especially when you get guys like that : cncpun
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  The chicks at todays auto show was pretty much the sluttiest looking bunch of hoes I've ever seen. It was... : idmud
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    wierd how having hot girls at a car show is macho and having hot girls at a video game convention is kind... : crust
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      Perhaps has something to do with the reactions of the audience. For example, simply by stereotypes, th... : cam3lt0sis
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        ahahaha... you're trying to imply the car crowd has a respectful appreciation for women as opposed to ner... : carnivore
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          no. i was saying perhaps nerds get a bit more excited than the car crowd. a bit more sweaty palmed and ... : cam3lt0sis
          • That's basically not true at all. Car fanatics are just as bad, if not worse. : tedv
• Did he try to pick out the shitties pair of glasses ever? : Mecha Tofu Pirate
• Wait, when did Mr. Show swallow Al roker? : emcea
• I somehow read chris richardson as chris remo and laughed for quite a while. : skitzo
• hey wow, people like this do exist huh lol : moe6
• someone needs to do that creepy chick eyes trick to these photos : dodob