New Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion Plugin

by Maarten Goldstein, Apr 18, 2006 10:36am PDT

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By: Dog-From-Duckhunt x Show Full Post

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I waited until a few months ago to buy Morrowind, and I got the re-release of the GOTY edition for the Xbox (I have an old PC). The game is great, it is polished, and it has tons of content. For games this complicated, it is better to wait for a few years before buying the game. By then it will be patched up, it will include all expansion packs, and it will only cost $20 new.

Apr 18, 2006 1:53pm PDT

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I waited until a few months ago to buy Morrowind, and I got the re-release of the GOTY edition for the Xb... : Dog-From-Duckhunt
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  Cool, so you plan on getting HL2 and Far Cry soon? : warcrow
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    I think he said games this complicated. As much as I like both those games they probably have about 1/5 o... : Pettytheft
    - Exactly. I get to experience the complete official Morrowind, with all patches applied. I don't want to... : Dog-From-Duckhunt

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If Bethesda needs a business model,they should look no further than what Bioware did for Neverwinter Nights:whole mods with hours of content professionally made for 5-15 dollars per download.And they had 2 huge add ons as well.

Apr 18, 2006 9:01pm PDT

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If Bethesda needs a business model,they should look no further than what Bioware did for Neverwinter Nigh... : TheDreamDragon
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Point 1
Business are going to make money. You can't stop that. Wipe up your tears from the optional $2 downloads and think:

Game companies like to make games- there are many more profitable forms of software. The more money they make, the better they try to make their games (doesn't always work, granted).

This is how you got an Oblivion in the first place- Bethesda made lots of money on Morrowind.

Point 2
Games cost a whole lot more than they used to. So unless you people will settle for 1996 graphics while still paying the same for games as you did 10 years ago, consider optional microtransactions a very small price to pay for games that have $20 million budgets.

Apr 18, 2006 3:44pm PDT

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Point 1 Business are going to make money. You can't stop that. Wipe up your tears from the optional $2 d... : gnoleb
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  That's why I said gamers don't realise they're being "dumped" in another thread; basically, game companie... : Balboa
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    Well, I think the hardcore, internet-based bitch and moan gamers are being dumped. 98% of people won't ev... : gnoleb
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      Not just the bitch and moan gamers - the entire gaming culture is. Take UT for example - Epic gave away h... : Balboa
      
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      Well valve is stillr edoing and releasing content for free so i don't think your entire example is correc... : italiano3d
      
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      CS, CoD and Gary's Mod are all examples of them charging, in one way or another, for content upgrades ove... : Balboa
      
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      Sure but at the same time they are still releasing free levels. so its a bad thing that cliffe and goose ... : italiano3d
      
      haha I am sorry you didn't say that was a bad thing. I apologise. Nevermind me. : italiano3d

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Damn, this game needs a payment plan. I can't afford to pay for these extras all at once, but if I could do monthy installments of, maybe like, 5 or 10 cents, I'd be happy.

Apr 18, 2006 7:31pm PDT

Damn, this game needs a payment plan. I can't afford to pay for these extras all at once, but if I could ... : beansniffles

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I like how they lowered the price by 10 cents. Yeah 2 bucks was way too much, but that 10 cents really changed my mind.
I think if they bundled all 3 for a buck, then that might make me reconsider, but right now meh.
What I donÃ¢Â€Â™t like is that there is a door in my game (to the Orrery) that I can never get in unless I buy this micro-addon. That door bugs me.

Apr 18, 2006 4:01pm PDT

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I like how they lowered the price by 10 cents. Yeah 2 bucks was way too much, but that 10 cents really ch... : Modulus
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  the only price that will be right for some of you is free. : italiano3d
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    I don't know.. a lot of the stuff they're adding seems to be stuff they had planned to include in the gam... : walker270
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      I also apologise, i did not mean to say you, i meant to say people. My post wasn't directed at him really... : italiano3d
      
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      These plugins specifically? If so, they should have picked some that didn't look like they were dropped ... : walker270
      
      yah these plug-ins specifically. I think they are merely a test platform, for mini expansion type content... : italiano3d

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Bethesda, Nice way to support your community for nickle and diming them to death for every little fucking thing. It's bullshit to have to pay for shit like this on the 360 OR the PC.

Apr 18, 2006 2:51pm PDT

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Bethesda, Nice way to support your community for nickle and diming them to death for every little fucking... : Frosty3D
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  yep its bullshit for a company to make money on something they made...damn sharks taking everyones $1.88 : mo13
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    Don't attack me with ShacklogicÃ¢Â„Â¢ It's bullshit! We all paid $50 for the game and now they'... : Frosty3D
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      Then don't pay. It's not like it's a huge quest that everybody must get. It's just a little one that may ... : nomaad
      
      Exactly...if nobody buys the shit, they wont do it anymore. I still cant get my brain around 2 bucks for ... : limabone-jlp
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      It's bullshit if they had a gun to your head and forced you to buy something you didn't want. Sorry, I'm... : Matt Burris
      
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      I think he was being sarcastic since he misspelled nickel : Schnapple
      
      Sorry I can't spell perfectly. : Frosty3D
      
      That's a pretty ghey thing to say. : Frosty3D
  - You like being nickel'd and dimed eh? You like that now you have to pay full price for a game and not ha... : Bali
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  - I NEVER got Morrowind to work right. : Frosty3D

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I'll bet that penny they extort from the PC download will really make they're day

Apr 18, 2006 12:47pm PDT

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I'll bet that penny they extort from the PC download will really make they're day : goatbiscuit
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Are there any restrictions on using the assets (textures/meshes) from these mods? I have seen one mod the retextured the horse armor and was wondering if Bethesda has commented on it.

Apr 18, 2006 4:25pm PDT

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Are there any restrictions on using the assets (textures/meshes) from these mods? I have seen one mod th... : MH Knights
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- yes bethseda said you could not reuse the art and give it away for free from the plug-ins in an interview... : italiano3d

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To those bitching about the cost:

Buying the game entitled you to everything that came on the disc. Nowhere did Bethesda say that ANY additional content would be provided free of charge. You want free content? Get any one of the ever-increasing fan-made mods--or make your own. You want professional content? Pony up a couple of bucks and buy what Bethesda is offering.

Why the hell are we even having this argument? The only debatable point is whether the content is worth the price (horse armor, fuck no! / Orrery, debatable / future content, who knows?), not whether or not it should be free. Things fucking change, businesses adapt, consumer models need to evolve--this ain't rocket science, it's the reality of modern economics in an industry feeling the crunch of exploding production costs, increased competition, and, arguably, market saturation. If you don't get that, Donny, then please just trust me when I say that you are out of your fucking element.

Apr 18, 2006 4:31pm PDT

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To those bitching about the cost: Buying the game entitled you to everything that came on the disc. N... : buroja
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Can someone who has the add-on post a couple screenshots of the new content? Since the gameplay is only 10-15 minutes tops, I'm wondering if the actual orrery itself looks cool to justify me coughing up the dough.

Apr 18, 2006 4:25pm PDT

Can someone who has the add-on post a couple screenshots of the new content? Since the gameplay is only ... : Arcanum

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I'm guessing most people are just going to download these mini-mods via bittorrent or something. I'm not condoning piracy, but I can see most people not paying for these since they are so small and not really worth the money...

Apr 18, 2006 4:14pm PDT

I'm guessing most people are just going to download these mini-mods via bittorrent or something. I'm not ... : headbone

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The timing of these purchaseable content additions is something that kinda bugs me. I just shelled out $59 for the CE and now I feel like I don't have the entire game. To have the complete experience I have to shell out evern more cashish? I think that's where the sour taste in gamer's mouthes is coming from.

This being said, I think the only reason PC gamers are paying for this is because they are charging Xbox gamers for the same content. I'm not sure what MS requirements for vendor use of XBox Live are but its a "nickel & dime" money making channel for MS and there's no way your going to alienate the Xbox crowd by giving away content to PC users that you've charged Live customers for.

Apr 18, 2006 1:47pm PDT

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The timing of these purchaseable content additions is something that kinda bugs me. I just shelled out $... : ezanga
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Can't someone put this up on fileshack or something for easier downloading? You still have to get a code to use it, so it wouldn't be any good for anyone that didn't buy it.

Apr 18, 2006 3:41pm PDT

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Can't someone put this up on fileshack or something for easier downloading? You still have to get a code ... : jonin
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- I wish someone would, but it's probably still dodgy. After about 4 hours of trying, it eventually star... : Balboa

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You realize that your tears only makes Bethseda stronger, right?

Apr 18, 2006 3:35pm PDT

You realize that your tears only makes Bethseda stronger, right? : Clay

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When is there going to be a substantial addon made, maybe 10 missions, perhaps 5? a new race, a new entire town? - that people may pay 5-10$ for and feel they got their moneys worth

Micropayments really do suck they also remind me of this post which really sums up how Microsoft are approaching it.
http://www.shacknews.com/ja.zz?id=11097881

Apr 18, 2006 3:12pm PDT

When is there going to be a substantial addon made, maybe 10 missions, perhaps 5? a new race, a new entir... : abrasion

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Download stalled, server not responding. A good start for my $1.89 "premium but-would-have-been-free-previously" purchasing experience I feel. No, wait. I mean piss-poor start.

Apr 18, 2006 11:18am PDT

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Report 1 Download stalled, server not responding. A good start for my $1.89 "premium but-would-have-be... : asriel
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From that Q&A it sounds like most of the devs like seaky characters. Makes me wonder if I've missed out by completely ignoring that skill.

Apr 18, 2006 1:04pm PDT

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From that Q&A it sounds like most of the devs like seaky characters. Makes me wonder if I've missed out b... : nudel
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Hmmmm...I'm not sure how much content this has in it, and whether or not it is worth it. Someone who has purchased it want to pipe up?

Apr 18, 2006 10:46am PDT

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Slow as fock... it either cancels out altogether or just sits there like a drunken 90 year old in front of a cheerleader contest.

And their "official" forums are all filled with the same complaints.

Oh well... decisions decisions... call bank and cancel charge, or call Beth and get told to "be patient" again??

Apr 18, 2006 12:34pm PDT

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They had this same slow download/no download problem with the horse armor mod. As much as I'd like to support Bethesda for the great game they put out, they seriously should've fixed this server problem the first time around.

Apr 18, 2006 12:06pm PDT

They had this same slow download/no download problem with the horse armor mod. As much as I'd like to su... : Matt Burris

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Sweet god this download is slow. 17.5mb at 10k per second :/

I want my pony armour astrology room, damnit!

Apr 18, 2006 10:56am PDT

Sweet god this download is slow. 17.5mb at 10k per second :/ I want my pony armour astrology room, dam... : Balboa

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