The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion Chat Thread

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  In any of the cities but the capitol you can join the mage or fighter guild, to get into the dark brother : jason28
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    More information on FG please. I haven't got any fucking clues. : TastyWheat
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      The fighters guild only has like 3 places you can join the guild in anvil, leyawin and chadenhyl are the : mugwet
      • Cool. What's this about the capital then? No wonder. O_o : TastyWheat
• To join the Dark Brotherhood, kill any random civilian and then sleep. For fighters, go to Azzan in Anvil... : dylan2287ofoblivion

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• it's pretty lame, imo. i've never really used it either. : the_doctor
• When you see a vampire or daedra cast a spell on itself, you can get rid of the spell if you use that spe... : dylan2287ofoblivion

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  That's pretty good for a level 1. Just put it on your weapon of choice and go whoop some ass. As for : shredomatic
  • K, thx for the tip. Same to Dink. : madspacemarinemustdie
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  enchanted items are really how you become strong once you're fighting tough enemies though. I had a dama : DinK
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    I need to find a grand soul gem to do this same thing. I only have greaters and they cap out at 60 mana p... : edgewise
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      Yeah I was meaning to tell you I followed after what you mentioned doing with your bow the other night. : DinK
      • Oh btw for grands, just go to mage's guilds. You'll find pre-charged grands, and one person was even sel... : DinK
• I have the same one on a mace (I'm level 3). That stone is great! The best part is how may "uses" you get... : 69shots
• The effect there that you got is alright for lvl 7 and under. The effect randomizes every time that you p : dylan2287ofoblivion

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• Go to a temple. Poke temple altar. Or, drink potions of restore luck. : Arcanum
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  you should have been nicer to him, he may have offered something to help prevent this from happening to y... : grendel
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    He was being a pissant. I slayed him after he gave me the scroll :( : Judicator.Khas
    • I did this quest with my last guy, couldn't kill him, so I ignored him. Couldn't seem to get anything out... : crummynz
    • yeah he is pretty shitty, but if you act like you care what he has to say he offers you a ring to protect... : grendel
• had same prob. either go to a temple/monastary/whatever in a city and get healed there by activating the ... : mallocated
• The quest you're talking about is Applewatch. The towns people are invisible, they need your help. You go : dylan2287ofoblivion

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• It will add a marker to the map after the two weeks. : NFXFSX
• The armor comes available after a week. You can get it in the armory in the Imperial Jail part of the Imp : dylan2287ofoblivion

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• I think you have to go to Cheydinhal first. : Nihil ME
• With this you don't have to go directly to her, you can but also you can go to the dark elf in the guild ... : dylan2287ofoblivion

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• If that's all you got, then I have one thing to say to you... Nooooob. : dylan2287ofoblivion

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• http://oblivion.gamewikis.org/wiki/Console_Commands : Nixx2004
• Why would you need any others, I've played the game over and over, finding new quest, beating all the gui... : dylan2287ofoblivion

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• inside bruma : italiano3d
• talk to the guard captain dude and he will tell you where and mark your map : italiano3d
• Her house is above her basement. : buroja
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  Can anyone help me with the next part of this quest? I went to Jearl's house, then a chick woke up an : Piotyr
  • well what i did was run around till another mystic dawn agent attacked me which happend to be at night at : italiano3d
• The house is in Bruma to the back of the chapel, north backside that is. Check the basement. The door to : dylan2287ofoblivion

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• Are you from our future or Oblivion future. If from ours then how much will be the highest amount of mone... : dylan2287ofoblivion

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  it might have been one of the town quests, in particular the guard captain and his overtaxation of the to : grendel
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    oh noes... does my game suck now. : krym3
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      Nah, there's no big unique reward or anything. : genom
      • I only received 300 gold for finishing that quest. : helvetica
  • Yes, this is the quest. : Rich McNinch
• The quest your talking about is about that guy, he gets into trouble with a corrupt guard, you'll see the : dylan2287ofoblivion

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• the mark/recall? nope but there is a mod for it somewhere on tessource. : italiano3d
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  Nice to see someone who was a fan of the Elder Scrolls previously. But no they thought that it made the g... : dylan2287ofoblivion
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    just to let you know, you are posting in comments that are very very old and more than likely you wont ge : Jayx77
    • It took me about 2 years to find out that. The new guys have it so easy :) : Cashh

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  No offense, but that wasn't smart, Ulf-Gar or whatever is used in the Dark Brother. But are you sure you ... : dylan2287ofoblivion
  • I wonder what would happen if you tried the Dark Brotherhood quest after killing him! : SockMonkeh

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• "5 minutes into the game" would still be during the tutorial. I'm pretty sure you can't kill any of the g... : grizzo
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  He's talking about Umbra. Go to Vindasel, an Ayleid ruin directly southwest of the Waterfront District : azshack
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    For what it's worth, I've heard she's level 50 no matter what your level is. I managed to kill her with a : azshack
    • You can find more information on this here: http://www.gamespot.com/features/6147085/p-16.html : azshack
    • she was pretty easy to kill..poison her with damage fatigue and she will fall to the ground helplessly.. : needlez
    • that sword doesn't sound so special. I have an enchanted ebony longsword that deals 45 pts of elemental d : edgewise
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  tagged for the weapon : odin318
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    tagged indeed. ill be getting this sword! yeehaw : khroma
    • tagged this message so I can come back more than 10 chars : DarkFriend
• tagged for later exploitation. : TPSReport
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  PROTIP on how to do this and obtain this and more...! Go to the Arena and get a few claymores. Then, g : warcrow
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    If you're going to cheat the game that bad, why not just use god mode? : Matt Burris
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      Tagged for awaiting God Mode command! I kid, I kid! : 69shots
      • tgm : hbalce1
    • I persoanlly havent dont this, but theres nothing to say that my 3 or 4th run through I wouldnt. I think ... : warcrow
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      http://www.shacknews.com/jazz/search.x?user=Matt+Burris&query=cheat Worry less about how others play ... : Ebu
      • SHACKOWNED : odin318
      • Its a BOT! I knew it! : warcrow
      • haha pwn'd : needlez
      • That and his xbox gamer tag. : al9000
  • hah, bm'd for later : kevp
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    In fact, you don't need to get into Umbra's room. Just before you head downstairs to face her, notice tha : Nitrium
    • I used all my arrows and got her to like 1/4 health, and then had to rely on my shitty 6 and 5 dmg fire s... : jigstah
• Tagged...... : Pettytheft
• Fuck... this is me wishing i had taken blade instead of blunt. : krym3
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  I wonder if I'm the only person who gave the sword up to Clavicus. [Quest spoiler.] : xpaladin
  • prolly, I know that I didnt. : jason28
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  also: you need a higher personality if you want people to like and persuasion to work better. : pyide
  • crap misreply : pyide
• tagged : hobosapien
• He's talking about Umbra. To get it go into some ruins west of Pell's Gate and southwest of the Imperial : dylan2287ofoblivion

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• pay another $2.50? I kiiid I kiiiid! : biofrog
• Not that I know of, the unicorn is part of Hircine's Shrine quest. When you're lvl 17 or up, go to the sh... : dylan2287ofoblivion

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• Black soul gems can capture humoniod souls. : jason28
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  nickname? : mallocated
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    yeah, what? : TastyWheat
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      More of a typo for me. My hand usually just types it wrong for some reason. Seems I'm not the only on... : Nixx2004
      • I like ES III: Cliff Racer Hunter better. : Macky
• The black soul gems are the same trap lvl as the black. Although the black give advantages of being able ... : dylan2287ofoblivion

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• Posts like these make me smile. : Dimmona
• I teared up. : Freon
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  I took some pictures. http://richmcninch.com/~wired/adios_avidius1.jpg http://richmcninch.com/~wired/ad... : Rich McNinch
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    when he attacked me he was butt naked for some reason D: : Cold Hate / Warm Blo
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      was it night time? Ive seen alot of npc's do that at night. I followed a npc around once for a while. And... : italiano3d
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        haha, nope... actually it was in the middle of the day and I was exploring way in the up in the mountains... : Cold Hate / Warm Blo
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          maybe someone stole the clothes off his back? haha : italiano3d
          • I've seen that happen a few times. If you pick pocket the semi nude NPCs you'll usually find that their ... : Kentor
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  ....... I'm glad you're enjoying your self but, uh, it's just a game dude. : patdoody
  • Welcome to the thread, Mr. Sourpuss. : quietb0y
• This quest you're talking about with the guards is quite useful for lvls. Just stay there and kill the da... : dylan2287ofoblivion

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  Tonight I found a staff of 80pts lightning damage over 1 second. I suppose maybe I shouldn't have sold i... : Krypt_
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    if it's an 'on target' spell, it might be worth keeping it around sometimes. I dont use offensive magic ... : headless
    • I'm building up a large collection of staves. They're quite nice to have around, especially those bazook... : Rich McNinch
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      I keep a strong dispel staff on me, but the damage ones aren't as useful when my bow does up to 60+ damag... : DinK
      • i really need to finish the mage guild quests :D : headless
• This item is pretty useful for mages, but for warriors it's not so useful. The warrior does not get exp f... : dylan2287ofoblivion

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• buy a invinsibility spell : rjudd12
• just wait he will move eventually. Also look around for a different path. : alexthegreat2
• Conjure a pet and remain hidden then sneak by once he tears off after the pet. So long as he doesn't unco... : sinclair4217
• guards will always move if you wait, except maybe for the ones at the main gates. : DinK
• If you're where I think you are heading toward your old jail cell then I had to reload and get to the ste... : quietb0y
• If you're talking about the quest to eliminate the dark elf in the jail cell, he should move in a few sec... : dylan2287ofoblivion

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  does it matter? i've been selling items @ 1200 and already have 120k. you could increase your mercanti... : pyide
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    Well I'm a low str mage so I can't really go around carrying a lot of heavy weight/value items so that's ... : 5150Joker
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      good tips here: http://www.shacknews.com/ja.zz?id=11866184 check out the advanced stage section of hi... : pyide
      • Sweet thanks for the tip! : 5150Joker
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  There aren't and it doesn't matter really. You'll find more stuff to sell and before long have more mone... : Nixx2004
  • dude, don't sell items willy nilly, rite, get on a horse and fast travel to Kvatch, then equip the weapon... : Divine_Hunter

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  You should be able to seduce your house maid. : freshyk
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    There's already a titties mod... Not too long till some freakshow codes a "hot coffee" mod for oblivion s... : tyrelhill
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      http://www.topoftheslide.net/pics/screens/oblivion/grayfox.avi Play looped fro best effect. : Helter Skelter
      • that is awesome : haccess
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        See what I mean? Freaks. : tyrelhill
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          It's not a mod, though. :P : Helter Skelter
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            wait explain plz : kill9
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              he kileld her and tossed her over the bed : italiano3d
              • oh hahaha ok i thought it was part of a quest or something : kill9
      • Hahaha! That has to be the first time I've seen the 'Tony Danza' used in a game. : chadg033
      • hahahahah! : Cold Hate / Warm Blo
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  Make her polish your spear. : Matt Burris
  • and shake her cuirass : trOmblyj
  • But it's so BIG my lord! : moogle
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    http://img64.imageshack.us/my.php?image=argonianmaid6eb.jpg Not really a spoiler, just a book I found ... : Nixx2004
    • man i love this game... : patdoody
    • hahaha...so much hidden greatness. : NFXFSX
    • LOL : abrasion
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      That was in Morrowind... I believe it's the play 'Uncle' Crassius Curio was writing. : ]aratex[
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        Unfortunatly its no longer than the Morrowind version :( : moogle
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          Eh? Whaddya mean? I remember it there. : Rotten Deadite
          • Carefully re-read his post. You made the same mistake I did at first. : Ebu
      • yesss... I remember seeing this! brilliant. : sigma
• I couldn't buy one so I made like 8 of those orc guys spawn and they all stood around in a big cluster ta... : quietb0y
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  Can this be done to the one in Anvil? Mine's all "finished", meaning the quest associated with it in the : Downforce
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    Lol, I've read the Lusty argonian maid many times ;P anyway, I think the servants only come with like bi... : Divine_Hunter
    • Woh! I just asked that Skingrad maid about her and she said her and that shop owner used to share the sa... : Divine_Hunter

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  You have to find the body of Eduard Denile. When you do your quest log will tell you to clean out all the : jason28
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    I know the cave by heart now, and I've searched every little corner of it. I haven't found any corpse exc... : GodZilly
    • The body of Eduard Denile in the southern tip of the Swampy Cave portion of the complex (where all the sk... : iokoSteve

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  LOL Thats the kinda stuff that makes physics cool. : CRasterImage
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    having react like it's covered in crisco is cool? ;) : kevp
    • the crisco-dagger is a powerful item! : cpnkegel
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  I was fighting a daedric necromancer in of the oblivion towers. Well we were fighting close to the edge (... : Simulacrum
  • yeah, but how realistic is a knife of lube +4 sliding down a hill, not beings stopped by grass or dirt? : ikonoklast86
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  If you turn the grass draw distance all the way down, the grass will disappear and then you should be ab... : jason28
  • not on a 360 I can't... : Dimmona
• lololol : NFXFSX
• That is pretty cool, and I thought so too the first time it happened to me. But after about the 10th time... : SusanTD
• my own physics misadventures: for completing the purification quest for the darkbrotherhood you get a : -Panther-

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• Mines are variable bitrate and they play fine... : i_mon61
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  probably gotta name them the same as the old original tracks : vitek r
  • you do not have to name them like the original tracks. : kbnerd

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  it's broken because you killed the guy who gave you the quest? ... : -Panther-
  • I didn't say broken. But I was expecting to be able to tell him they're dead or something.. The quest s... : voodoochildtm
• I have that issue too. One damn quest entry and one damn quest item that just sit there, taunting me, ne... : DinK

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  Skingrad I think. 25K. : Nixx2004
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    Skingrad is bigger than the Anvil house. : Arcanum
    • But it has 5 display cases and quite a few shelves. : Kentor
• I <3 my Bruma house. not too big, more than enough places to store shit once you get all the upgrades. : Ctrl-Phreak

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• Oops misreply. : 5150Joker

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  If you do that, don't forget to save the person trapped in the basement. : helvetica
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    Oh yeah, I did. That's why I was there in the first place. :) Thanks for the thought. : Arcanum
    • be warned, that quest is bugged :( : theWhite
• i completed the mission there first; now i'm an enemy of the town and half a dozen guys with no shirts co... : mallocated
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  heh.. that was the one time I went completely apeshit and turned into a massmurderer. When I came out of : Fredrik S
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    Hahaha! I used my 110% camo gear to sneak around and quietly murdered every single person in the town. : Arcanum
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      If you bring the girl back outside all the normal townspeople attack you first and you don't get any boun... : Krypt_
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        the guy that helps you in the quest tells you that you shoudl do it at a certain time at night causet he : mallocated
        • Yeah, but then you don't get to kill everyone :( : Krypt_
• Someone said that in the church someone got turned into a ghost. Can anyone confirm this? I've already do... : shred.

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• post = what : Dimmona

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  Is you DVD drive in PIO mode or something? It was pretty quick for me, probably about 5 minutes. : Helter Skelter
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    * S T A R F O R C E 'D * : Arcanum
    • this is likely - I had SC: Chaos Theory installed on this machine for a while. :/ : eskimo spy
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    What should it be set to? My DVD is in PIO mode, as I've recently discovered, and I have Starforce instal... : Judicator.Khas
    • Find your IDE controller in Device Manager. Select the channel your DVD drive is on, double click on it, ... : Helter Skelter
  • It took me kind of a long time too. My drives are all set to DMA mode and I was installing to a freshly ... : DinK
• Yeah... something is very wrong with your system. As said above, install was maximum of five minutes her : buroja
• took me a half hour no joke... something was whack but I just figured I would let it install rather than ... : thebigbeefsandwich
• took hardly any time at all on mine, maybe your hard drive is going wonky? : spdon

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  http://mywebpages.comcast.net/guidoanchovy/facegen1.jpg : guido anchovy
  • hahahahaha : joe.gonzalez

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• I'm an assassin in the FG. I like it so far though i'm only like 5 or 6 quests into it. : kelzmelzer
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  I had a high level fighter at one point, and completed about 7 FG quests, I think. A lot anyways. The que... : Judicator.Khas
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    There is a line for it you just have to do a few quests before it starts to show up. : jason28
    • Aye there is a storyline but you have to do the job thing for awhile first. I would say the fighters guil... : mugwet
• I'm a custom warrior and playing through the theives' quests. Only done a few of the fighter's guild que... : Freon
• I've only done the first two levels for the fighters guild, so far they are ok, but I rate the Dark Broth... : wildminus
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  I've heard the Fighters Guild is recruiting again. Not a bad way to make some money, if you've got the st... : xpaladin
  • /me stabs you in the face : wildminus
  • i think their NPC PR campaign is indicative of sliding numbers due to a weak story line. : get_navi
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    well met! : ldlr
    • Yes. : forgeo
  • Don't make me laugh! : voodoochildtm
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    So have you heard anything from the other provinces? : needlez
    • nothing I'd care to talk about : alexthegreat2
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    Not funny. Not even a little bit. : Krypt_
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      See, there's where you're wrong. : Ebu
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        I won't fight you. : Rice-Rocketeer
        • You do me too much honor. : Mondo
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    I heard a rumour that you're an idiot. Any truth to that? : crummynz
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      That's good! Where did you get that one? : silent prophet
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        Arena. : GodZilly
        • well met! : ldlr
    • I busted out laughing when i heard that, so awesome. : slickdoody
  • Well that's just plain rot : yay4furryanimals
  • You move like a pregnant cow! : CapnChaos
• I got pretty far in the Fighters Guild quests till I got permanently expelled. So I decided to murder the... : tyrelhill
• I've finished up the quests and become master of the fighters guild. The first few quests are kinda meh, : malevolence
• I finished up the Fighters Guild quest arc and LOVED it! It's awesome! : warcrow
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  Pretty boring compared to others. Gets a little interesting at the end, but it's too little, too late. ... : GeorgeB3DR
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    I guess I'm glad I did the FG stuff first then, amiright? As a fighter, should I expect to have some i... : warcrow
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      Start stocking up on lockpicks. Shady Sam, the guy outside the Imperial city near the stables, will sell... : Freon
      • I picked up the skeleton key, so not too worried about the lockpicks. I start sneaking everywhere though,... : warcrow
• the "rogbut" quest near the end is well worth it. The npc's are really hilarious. : slickdoody
• I just beat it. Its worth doing and the reward is quite cool but its not that amazing. The story arc is v... : spdon

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  Can you make him scour every shop and every home in every city with the single-minded purpose of stealing : buroja
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    If I wanted to make him accurate all I'd do is give him a quest where he agrees to go do something then w... : SockMonkeh
    • More people should love this response. : buroja
    • hahaha that is absolutely great. Now that would be a quest i would download. And yes the TES:CS is great.... : italiano3d
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  oblivion needs a wildlife mod..more harmless animals to hunt, please. : needlez
  • there is one of these on the mod forum on the official site. but it keeps getting buried in the trash bet... : italiano3d

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  ASUS A7N-SLI Delux with any socket 939 AMD processor. Good mobo and cpu set. : SusanTD
  • I used an Asus A8N-E in my system (NF4 ultra, no SLI) and I certainly like it. Runs great with 2GB in dua... : DinK
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  Posted on FirstPost, but I was wondering what Ram is good for OC'ing a 3200+ OCZ? Corsair? which type & ... : loke662
  • I just bought PC4000/DDR250 ram since I knew I'd want to overclock. It's OCZ gold, the price wasn't terr... : DinK
  • Mushkin Black kicks ass. I have my 2GB kit running @ 250 MHZ. : Athlon7
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  cpu wise. Anything amd x2 400 and above is where you want to be. Not only for oblivion but most future cr... : italiano3d
  • 4400* sorry : italiano3d
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  Why not the 7900GT? More or less the same price, but much better performance. My crazy overclocked eVGA c... : Helter Skelter
  • By the way, this is basically the same system I just built, and I run at 1600x1200 with all the ingame se... : Helter Skelter
  • I have a friend who can get the 7800 gt for $200 : loke662

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• haha that's hilarious. sorry dude. :) : kek
• Sean Bean....NOOOOOOO!!!!!!! : NFXFSX

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  I have had one lockup in 40+ hours of play on the xbox, not sure if that is good or bad but I have no com... : wildminus
  • i've played nearly 40 hours on pc with 1 lockup as well. : khroma
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  wow.. your really lucky.. i know about 5 people having similiar crashing problems, 2 of which quit playin... : datim
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    that happened to me for Theif III. I hate buggy/crashy games : lord_omega
    • Oblivion is incredibly stable and I never had any problems with Thief 3 either. Maybe you need to work o... : Priest77
• They have a few guys devoted just towards those pay updates, so it's not like they're not working on the ... : kingdepork
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  Do you have an NVIDIA graphics card? I thought I heard the problems with Invisibility were driver related... : SockMonkeh
  • I don't know if that's what those drivers fixed specifically, but white artifacts filling the screen plus... : reign27
• That is definatly NOT the norm. If you hang in the oblivion threads, you will see that while there seem t... : SirX
• I haven't had one crash yet. Oddly, it occasionally thinks it crashed after I've exited the game...so,... : Vincent Grayson
• My game crashes every 2-3 hours on average... But I haven't had any problem using the quicksaves the g... : Freon
• That's pretty frustrating. I guess I'm lucky that I only had it crash once on me in 80+ hours. Whenever I... : SixDemonBag
• I've had 1 very serious crash, where it crashed during a save and corrupted it. When I tried to load the ... : 69shots
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  Just because you're having problems with the game does not mean it's "buggy". The other 99.9% of us are g... : Simulacrum
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    99.9% of statistics are made up? : Freon
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      There's a 50/50 chance that I'm right.... but only a 25% of that happening. : Simulacrum
      • Does the fullness of the moon have to be included in your calcs? :P : X Fuzion
• I had zero crashes in 30+ hours until I added the BTMod (UI mod which I love) on the system, after I did ... : Tripps
• did you change your ini file? : eeeealmo
• I've had no crashes, with the exception of last night. I was playing around with the dupe bug and it wasn... : Ben Barker
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  yeah its really lame.. yes im running an Nvidia card.. 6600GT to be exact.. im totally updated and all.. ... : datim
  • I have a 6600GT also. The first day I had the game I was fine. The second day things were fine, too, but ... : johnny skidmarks
  • I have a vanilla 6800 and it's fine. No crashes to desktop at all. : timmie
• if you do some reserach, you'll find that most problems (load crashes, sound issues) are caused by 3rd pa... : the_doctor
• No crashes here. I think on the whole it's a pretty bug free game from what I've been reading. : NastyJack
• 100% pure troll : derean
• There is no patch for the Keyboard/Chair Interface... : Str8Dog
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  I find this game to be refreshingly non-buggy, especially for what it is, a large PC RPG. I get the (rat... : DinK
  • there are some fairly major bugs, but not everyone will come across them (or notice them). The game does ... : spdon
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  Jesus, the game has been out for around 14 fucking days. Give them a break. And FYI, the armour mod wa... : Drewus
  • Oh, and try updating your video card drivers. The latest Nvidia beta release (specifically done for Obliv... : Drewus
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  Mine soft-locks every other time (on average) I alt-tab out and back in. And there've been one or two cra... : Jumperus
  • from the readme: INPUT -ALT+TAB may cause some game instability with some hardware configurations and ... : pyide

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  I hope this whole pay for addons thing fails miserably. I don't understand how some of you can some in an... : SockMonkeh
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    seems pretty simple to me. bethesda either makes addons that you pay for, or they dont make addons at all... : mega man
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      Yeah but it's not that simple. If they really catch on then it will become more economically sound to put... : SockMonkeh
      • I don't think it's outrageous that they are doing it, I just hope it doesn't catch on. : SockMonkeh
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        No, they did the same with Morrowind only with free updates. Now that it's also on xbox360 and I think ... : kingdepork
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          Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Hopefully it'll get back to being free for PC users. Screw the X360. : SockMonkeh
          • I hope it becomes free to everyone but you. : Simulacrum
      • Except that it won't be economically feasible, since people would inevitably catch on, and be unwilling t... : Vincent Grayson
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    "Pete brings up a good point relating to content already out there. I completely forgot about the Kameo "... : SockMonkeh
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      Another bit of perspective here... * A (skilled) designer is billed at anywhere between 30-75/hour USD... : xpaladin
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        I think your assumptions about their costs are meaningless : alexthegreat2
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          Not necessarily. A lot of people are shocked when they find out about how much a single game actually cos... : xpaladin
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            So are you trying to say that bethesda is in danger of layoffs after their game has sold millions? giv... : alexthegreat2
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              Just because a game sells well doesn't necessarily mean the sudio makes mucho profit. Game devs make t... : xpaladin
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                again, you have no idea about their finances and are making unfounded statements. Unless you work at Be... : alexthegreat2
                • http://ir.take2games.com/quote.cfm -- and that's the top of the food chain in Bethesda's case. : xpaladin
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                  Thank you for saying this. It's their freaking jobs. If they aren't making enough money they can quit : NastyJack
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                    That's my point -- it's their jobs. They have to be paid. And so do the people who make distribution poss... : xpaladin
                    • Because obviously the only reason a person might have for disagreeing with you is that they didn't unders : Ebu
                    • Well yeah of course. I don't think you read what I wrote either. I said that if the product is worth buyi... : NastyJack
              • That is not exactly how it works. Publisher X pays X Millions to X developer to develop X game. Typically : mikage
      • Sorry, I don't think Bethesda spent 30-40 developer man-hours creating the horse armor. I'm going to say... : Arcanum
      • Yeah, I'm not saying Bethesda is over-doing it. I'm just saying that if this kind of thing catches on som... : SockMonkeh
    • we have the 360 to thank for these stupid skins and the horrible UI. : odin318
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  My $0.02, I would gladly pay for xbox 360 content, however it is too expensive @ 200 points which is arou... : wildminus
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    Just don't buy the stupid thing. Bean counters are crawling all over new ways to tap revenue veins and th... : ihya
    • I agree, especially for such minor content like a piece of armor... Vote with your wallet! I paid ... : Freon
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  I'm not paying $2 for some pretty armor to put on my pony. I don't get it... Does it, like do anything?... : Freon
  • The armor increases the horse's AC just like player armor in the game, so it's functional. : EvilDolemite
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  I really think all this hubub can be attributed to the meeting of two models. On one side you have the... : -Panther-
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    an easy solution would just be to make the official additional content xbox exclusive. That would avoid a... : hunterkiller
    • i just downloaded it from the Beth forums! LOL! : odin318