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AGEIA PhysX Availability, Support
by Maarten Goldstein, Mar 22, 2006 9:53am PSTAGEIA sent out several press releases today, announcing availability of their PhysX PPU card. People ordering select Dell, Alienware or Falcon Northwest Gaming PCs will be able to add a AGEIA PhysX Accelerator to their system as of today while ASUS and BFG will be shipping their own stand-alone cards this May. The company also says that over a hundred games from sixty different companies including Epic Games, Ubisoft, SEGA and NCSoft will be supporting the AGEIA PhysX processor. Specific games announced as supporting the PPU include City of Villains, Ghost Recon: Advanced Warfighter for the PC, Unreal Tournament 2007, Rise of Nations: Rise of Legends and Vanguard: Saga of Heroes. Here's how the PhysX PPU will help G.R.A.W.
- Explosions are physically simulated with a combination of rigid-body and particle behaviors. Fragments bounce off the surroundings, damaging other game objects and the environment with spontaneous realism. - Generic effects such a bullet impacts and grenade explosions are drastically improved by burst of debris flying from the impact, increasing the tension and feeling of power of the weapons. - Objects in the game blow apart with a cloud of realistic dust and smoke that drifts with the force of the explosion. - Other particle behaviors in the game are physically simulated, such as trash and grit blowing in the street.
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That is what was nice about voodoo cards when they came out, it was much easier to take full advantage of them within a short time. Not so with physics.
Of course, you can always have wind blowing through hair, cloth etc. But then you'd buy a video card, not PhysX.
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http://www.asus.com/news_show.aspx?id=2640
How many people here use something besides onboard sound?
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That's some mighty confident pricing.
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If this 'works out', you'll be forced to buy a physx card to get decent performance in games that rely heavily on physics simulations in their game
And they're charging a ridiculous premium for the card
Best case scenario - it's supported, it accelerates physics modeling in games that use it, upping your framerate, it's sold cheaply (~$100?), but it isn't necessary, and games that make use of physics often in the game don't bog down horrendously without it
Worst case scenario - it's suppoted, it accelerates physics modeling in just about every 3d game, without it your framerate is horrid in any physics intensive scene, and it becomes a mandatory hardware upgrade - at ~$200-300, giving you a new piece of hardware to upgrade every year.
From where I'm standing on physics gameplay in games, it's purely fluff at this point - ragdoll animations, shit done blowed up good, stupid seesaw brick puzzles (hi hl2), and the handling of some vehicles (don't hit a bump in autoassault). Oh, and bonus points for it fucking your fps in rts games of all things :P
So yeah. I'm pretty hostile towards it. Have to wait and see I guess. But really, $300? come on.
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http://www.bfgtech.com/physx/index.htm
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http://www.firingsquad.com/features/ageia_physx_press_conference/page2.asp
"[...] there were so many objects on screen that the texture detail had to be toned down a tad just to get the game to run at an acceptable framerate. Yep, the graphics chip got overwhelmed by the demo, not the physics chip. The demo was being run on an Alienware rig with an Athlon 64 FX-60 CPU from AMD and dual NVIDIA 7800 GTX graphics cards running in SLI mode"
+ this quote from AGEIA's Andy Hess:
http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2006/03/22/alienware_ppu_ageia/
"When you have a PhysX processor in your system, you've gotta have that SLI. You've gotta have both graphics cards to handle the amount of data that we send out. We keep those guys really busy."
Seems like at the moment the PPU fun is only for rich people?
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http://physx.ageia.com/footage.html
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These cards need to be in line with sound card pricing. Also I'm worried that the particles will slideshow games on even a high-end system. And then all of a sudden instead of $300 it's $600, for the card and a second graphics card.
But in theory...this is awesome.
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http://physx.ageia.com/sbs_graw.swf
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http://www.ageia.com/products/drivers.html
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Katamari Damacy
What they could do with that kind of power... oh man....
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Price == too stiff.
How extensible / usable is this thing anyway?
It's just another PU with instructions designed around concepts of physics?
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The card is gonna be $300 as listed on their website. Apparently you won’t need to upgrade much due to new firmware releases. Hopefully this will be a sound blaster kind of deal where upgrades happen like once every 5 years or so (my audigy 2 is still fine).
Honnestly the idea of going sli with another video card that’s going to be outdated in 6 months does not appeal to me. Seeing as I tend to buy the high end vid cards, that’s an expensive proposition.
I hope this does well. As always the games will make or break this thing….
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A grenade inside a house is going to do more damage than scatter the furniture. You have the technology! Make it so, damnit.
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Good to be wrong sometimes.