Microsoft Announces Vista Lineup

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  MacBook ftw! : novafluxx
  • I hope I get my hands on one of these babies by 2007 or whatever they have by then. : ErneX
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  ....windowsxp will play videos on ur tv too if ya set it up right : godm0de
  • Thru the xbox360? care to explain? : ErneX

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  The fact that a PC user cool enough to be a shacker has to even ask this question is evidence that the ma... : trevis
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    theres nothing cool about being a shacker. : klearlyunseen
    • ..but we have teeshirts! : trevis
  • No it just shows we haven't had to worry about this shit for 4 years since XP came out and frankly people... : abrasion
• this PR doesn't really clarify that. It looks like Microsoft is trying to separate the current XP Pro ma... : the archvile
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  if you want terminal services (remote desktop) and the media stuff, its 'ultimate'. if you dont care for... : grimiv
  • Yes...Remote desktop is what I'm after...along with Pro's Security. I don't like XP Home Addition. SO the... : Dookeyfingers
  • they're restricting Remote Desktop to Ultimate? That's a boneheaded move, considering that XP Pro has it... : the archvile

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• ill believe it when i see it. : mjcrash
• I thought Vista was using DirectX 10? : cokefiend
• I don't buy it. : dealie
• lmao : warcrow
• Yeah, and the 360 is fully backwards compatible. Haha. : MaxPete82
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  Where did you get the 30% figure from? : thesubtlesnake
  • 47.1415% of all statics are made up on the spot. : trevis
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  I bet that Aero will take up 35% of the 3d performance on vista, so games and such will actually be slowe... : shassard
  • WTF are you talking about? : Fred Garvin
  • the 3d interface is disabled during games : klearlyunseen
• i hope thats true : klearlyunseen
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  Hah, good one. 30% my ass. : Conan
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    amazing how quickly people forget how much faster opengl was compared to directx. : mallrice
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      This statement could also be true as "amazing how quickly people forget how much faster glide was compare... : Psychic Potato
      • There are still modern games that use OpenGL, but I don't know about the claims of performance gains. All... : jonas54
      • Development time. Dev houses that are on a budget and a schedule will sacrafice performance for ease of i... : mallrice
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  LOL LOL! (fucking lol too) !! I have heard EVER SINCE WINDOWS 95, "YOUR OLD THINGS WILL RUN FASTER" ... : abrasion
  • btw, not attacking you, more the notion it's true..... 95, 98, ME, Win2k, WinXP "your apps will get faste... : abrasion

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• Toraz, is that you? ;P : GonzoRookie
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  why throw chip @ eMachines? :( They are AMD friendly, i like'em. : personaljesus
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    I agree they are the new dell for my family. : broly1718
    • Yeah eMachines lost the "shitty computer" performance awhile ago. : xelencin
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  So is the basic going to look exactly like XP? : ki11_viru5
  • It might even look more like Win2k. You can do the same thing with XP, just switch the performance to "ma... : shassard
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  ^^^ Obligatory biased anti-MS post. : MaxPete82
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    True, anger++ : shred.
    • You mean Anger.NET : biofrog
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    So true. Envy is an ugly, ugly thing. : MR 9000
    • so if you think this is stupid and marketing related, then you automatically envy and are angry? I'm a... : steelsamurai
  • Yeah. What I don't really understand is where this hate come from. Some people make it sound as though... : silverback1138
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    ^^^ Obligatory biased anti-anti-MS post. : wrath666
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      Touche. Except mine wasn't biased. Just pointing out the obvious. : MaxPete82
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        If you're gung-ho for Vista you're biased. : wrath666
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          Who said anything about gung-ho? : MaxPete82
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            I did, just gauging your reactions to the people who don't like the oncoming shit storm called Vista. : wrath666
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              When I see baseless bashing and unfounded claims, I call it biased. I would say the same thing to someone... : MaxPete82
              • Fair enough, I'm just tired of seeing all the Vista fanboys talk shit to everyone who doesn't agree with ... : wrath666
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  I find this post remakably informative. As the 'computer guy' amongst my friends, this information sha... : Dynotaku
  • Haha. Good one. : MaxPete82

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  I don't think so. I ran into similar problems when I looked into putting OS X on my Apple IIGS, which was... : MaxPete82
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    I'm not saying I'm running it on teh same PC, just when it says this is an upgrade....and..ahhscrewitwewe... : limabone-jlp
    • Haha, true dat. : MaxPete82

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  WINDOWS VISTA ULTIMATE HYPER FIGHTER TURBO EDITION : TastyWheat
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    : Second Impact : Psychic Potato
    • - The movie based on the game based on the movie, based on the new york times best selling novel of the ... : Psychic Potato
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  Naming conventions... What a weird thing to be nostalgic over. : nomaad
  • Not really, look at George Carlin's comedy material. He's (to me) shown that it's just another sign that... : Tawler
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  New products need new names. It happens in every industry, and I don't really think there's a way around ... : MaxPete82
  • I remember the days when a simple increase in version number was enough to get people excited. "Apple Wr : eldersveld
• Yes, it's really annoying and silly. : GreatGooglyMoogly

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  Don't you need a DX9 capable card to use the new interface? : timmie
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    Yessir. Aero requires it. : Iscariot47
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      Aero [i]Glas/i] does. Aero doesn't, I think (which would also make the newsblurb incorrect here). Also, y... : GreatGooglyMoogly
      • Aero Glass WhenthefuckwillIlearn? Retarded non-standardish tags. : GreatGooglyMoogly

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  IAWTP! Seems kind of stupid how you have to have MCE for it now, and some stuff doesn't play well with i... : FormerHPB
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    It's my understanding that the MCE stuff that plays/streams video is built into the OS at a low level (ma... : Schnapple
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      I wonder if the interface for MCE will actually change, or it will look exactly the same and just be incl... : bozer
      • Media Center with Glass effects would be nice. Or maybe they'll make it look like the X-Box 360 interface... : BlackCat9
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        http://msmvps.com/blogs/chrisl/archive/2005/09/14/66439.aspx here's some although they don't really ... : nadasurf2
        • i think this was demo'd at ces or pdc : mallrice
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      MCE stuff is not low-level. It's Media Player with a clown mask. When you install MCE, you are actually g... : quanta88
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        Do you have a link handy for some screenshots? : trevis
        • I second this request. : Iscariot47
      • I just hope its more customizable to be honest. I don't like how its such a pain in the ass to have my al... : bozer

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• I will agree with your thoughts on the "broadly available" bit. I want to buy my fracking Xbox 360 from C... : Killrig
• afaik processors are counted by physical sockets still, not by the number of cores. : mallrice

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  the thing that I find annoying is that it is not necessary to make "business" versions... back in the old... : steelsamurai
  • I do agree with that. Having so many versions is a bit overkill. Is there that much difference in the f... : silverback1138
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  I *hate* that they have multiple versions. There should be one version and all of the other features sho... : trevis
  • i like it....theres different selections for different consumers. : klearlyunseen
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  Completely agree! More choice = better pricing. And how confusing is it? A person with little experien... : exigence7
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    the problem is that none of these editions will suit any or every user. How many people do you think are ... : Holesinswiss
    • The only way to account for "unanticipated needs" is to buy the uber edition, as you said. And this is tr... : MaxPete82

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• No. The starter-version (sold in "emerging markets") are only 32 bits. All the other versions are... : nosseman

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• It wouldn't surprise me if it went like this: Home Basic: $99 Home Premium: $199 Business: $299 Ult... : nomaad

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• Army General: [shouting] You told us that windows 98 would be faster, and more efficient with better acce... : Freon
• Yep. Windows 2000 still works just fine for what I need it to do. : Ride-My-Rocket

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• if it's like XP Starter Edition, it will only let the user run 3 programs at any one time. XP Starter is... : the archvile

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• Vista II Turbo: Hyper Threading! : quanta88

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  i think around $5-600 for ultimate (could be wrong) : bozer
  • I surely hope that's wrong - that's like 2X the price of XP Pro. I think it's safe to say it will be as m... : Schnapple
  • No one would buy that. : deeveee
• Your Soul. : DM7
• I'm thinking $99 for Home Basic, $199 for Home Premium, $299 for Ultimate. No idea about the business on... : cryptical

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• thats pretty sweet. : mavmavv
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  it probably wont work : personaljesus
  • It could if they're running a UNIX compatibility layer via Virtual PC, which is included in Ultimate. : sinistarfith
• I've heard that before. : vigilante

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  hmmm no. They are adding in the ability to burn DVD's natively... If you want to use a 3rd party to bur... : Suicide20
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    You can already burn CDs natively in XP, it's not much of a stretch. : eldersveld
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      What I care about is if Vista can deal with ISO files & self booting CD's to make Vista install cd's with... : Optimus Prime
      • They added support for installing off of images, and even imaging your own system. I think its referre... : sharkII
  • ohh ok hehe : techx4
• no it's not like that. It's like getting media player with the OS. You can used any other media player ... : Optimus Prime