War, What is it Good For?
by Chris Remo, Dec 06, 2005 10:40am PSTJohn Tynes has an article up entitled "Why We Fight," in which he examines the whole mentality behind games about war or other situations employing lethal methods for specifically political means. He mentions games like Call of Duty, Medal of Honor, Wolfenstein, Splinter Cell, Rainbow Six, and so on. After pointing out that as a longtime gamer with countless kills to his name he is a member of the audience he describes, he suggests that one reason such games are so popular is because of their ability to let the player excercise the sort of absolute uncompromising force most of us don't have in the real world unless we happen to be dictators of fascist states.
When we play these kinds of games, when we step into the role of the soldier, the spy, the conspirator, the operative, we are in every case taking the place of the hypothetical politicians who have failed us. If politicians did their jobs better, Sam Fisher would be out of work. Rainbow Six would run a gas station. Soldiers would stay home. But these games begin at the point where politics has failed, where the will of the state to survive can only be expressed through violence. At this point, it's up to us. We are exceptional in every way: moral, compassionate, clear-headed, deadly. People face the world with the tools they hold in their hands, and in these games those tools are weapons. The joystick only lets us interact with people by killing them. The game only lets us solve problems with violence.Though the article doesn't touch on the whole issue of a link between violence and video games, it seems like a related topic. Do video games encourage aggressive actions in the real world, or due to the nature of many of them are they simply more attractive to certain people who already have aggressive tendencies?
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There are a lot of great facts and statistics in it that point towards media violence having a very real and very negative impact on "real" violence in general. I don't see any reason to dispute this, as my world experiences thus far tend to agree with the conclusions he's drawn.
One thing I found very interesting was that all of the school shootings' perpetrators/killers had never participated in any disciplined activity - sports (football, soccer, paintball, etc), target shooting (skeet, bullseye, etc), hunting, martial arts, or JROTC. I think that speaks volumes as to what proper discipline will do to reduce the likelyhood of someone committing such an act. It seems clear that disciplined kids are less likely to act out the violence they see in games/movies/etc. It all wraps back around to the "Shitty Parents" angle of things. If parents by and large were better at being parents, the world would be a better place. Fat chance that that'll ever happen, though...
In any case, if you're interested in reading more, you should check out either of Grossman's books. On Combat is a fantastic read (almost done with it myself), and On Killing is next on my list of must-reads.
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Lol...no, guy, those same politicians never meant to get it right in the first place. It's all about protecting your own assets and keeping your own ideals in check. I love the insatiable psychobabble people try to apply to this and it just comes down to this: people like to experience something they otherwise can't.
I will agree with Chris on that line that these games possibly attract people of different traits.
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Basicaly what he is saying is
a) we all have the need to excersize power in our lives in order to be happy.
b) in the modern world most of us do not have power in our lives
c) violent triumph is the most spectacular and imediatly gratifying form of power
d) we can't be violent in our daily lives so games fill that need for us
I think they fill many other needs as well and that they fill the need for power in other ways. But is is good to see somone put it bluntly.
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Why is it fun? I don’t know. But I don’t think that running around in Golden Axe, hacking and slashing everything in sight made me want to go outside and hurt real people just like I don’t think that playing modern highly detailed games would.
This statement reveals a profound misunderstanding of politics. Politics IS violence and nothing more. The purpose of the state is to monopolize the use of force. Where politics fails is when it is not constrained to retaliatory force.
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NOT IN REAL LIFE OF COURSE... HAH HAH HAH...
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Other games are about practicing mental exercises, so it's not all violence.
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That said, I love violence. I love violent video games. I like popping people in the face. I like kicking ass. I like blowing shit up. Taking suckas out is what gets me through my day. If someone made a game where I could talk my way out of violent situations I'd only use the feature to make the impending violence all the more meaningful.
Sure, I opposed the Iraq war. But that doesn't mean I won't play the videogame, ya know?
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If we play video games as young adults-adults because politics have failed us?
Then why do we play war games as kids? I had no understanding of politics as a kid, but I did understand that it was fun to go out in the woods with pretend "weapons" and have fake wars with the neighborhood kids.
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People get the same thrill from a good game, regardless of whether it's violent. They get the feeling of having fun, OMG! It's just about accomplishment... it's a form of entertainment where the progression depends on your skill. In no way does playing games do anything to create degenerates (except for the one) If anything all it does is make you happy.
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Still, he has a point. Most games are about violence being the solution :(
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Deus Ex allowed for some great stuff. For instance I love shooting people in the leg with the silenced pistol until they die - the AI in that was great because after a few shots, they lose the will to fight and simply run around in a panic...
Don't even get me started on postal 2...
There is a simple reason why I do this - because I can't in real life. Video games are in a way a portal to dreaming while awake.
why are flight simulator games and sports games so popular, because those people dream of being pilots and sports stars.
In NHL 06 I have a player on my own hockey team with my name on the back of the jersey and the number I still wear playing amature hockey....
Games are a conscious escape from reality - the people who can't simply leave it at that are diseased and should be put down
The author isn't very smart.
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On the other hand, it's also possible to demonstrate all the opposites of those attributes, so it's kind of a wash.
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I fight the Nazi's, the zerg, the NOD, and everyone else on the planet and galaxy because I have fun doing it. He is right that compromise is boring. If I wanted to play a compromise game I'd get married. We as humans love power, but we love being entertained as well. I like being able to crush my enemies, but in the bigger picture its just entertainment. Like I said before...there is a deeper level to everything, but I don't think that this article really says anything more than what we already truely knew of ourselves.
Just so you know though I really love reading these things though!
lamentation of the women! I thought this was obvious.