Red Orchestra Heads To Steam

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  no, its still Unreal Engine powered : Maarten Goldstein
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    Doesn't this bring up licensing issues? : pandasrus
    • Good for them, glad to see something come out of that contest, other than a bunch of great mods that no o... : Gauss
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      This is exactly what I thought. Them making it on the Source engine is the only thing that made sense, bu... : aggressor
      • I don't think a game has to use Source to be on Steam. Steam is just a content delivery system. : freshyk
      • Steam is a distribution platform, not a game engine. One has nothing to do with the other. Someone could ... : Serpico74
      • If an Unreal Engine licensee has a contract to distribute their game as they see fit, they can do it on S... : Chris Remo
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        RO has nothing to do with Epic, therefore there is no need for a deal between Epic and Valve. They won th... : tomwiththeweather
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          I thought Ragdoll Kung Fu used Source (for the physics)? : aggressor
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            source doesn't have it's own physics engine, it uses havok i believe. : kingdepork
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              Yea, it uses Havok, but I thought it was heavily modified :( : aggressor
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                Well yeah, anytime a developer has to integrade any sort of middleware into their own software, it'll hav... : tomwiththeweather
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                  I know that, just sayin' I think Ragdoll Kung Fu uses the source engine and not something he created hims... : aggressor
                  • RDKF doesn't use Source. It was developed completely independently of Valve or Source before Valve picked... : jake2000
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  Look, there is no tie between Steam and Source. Sure, they can interoperate, and benefit from it, but... : johnsto
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    That's news to me. Why aren't more games headed for Steam then? Do they charge a lot for access, or somet... : aggressor
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      Notice a certain something with the third party games that are coming to Steam so far? They are independe... : Maarten Goldstein
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        I know that, but I'm curious why we don't see more budget titles or small games from independant develope... : aggressor
        • steam is young...it's a year old now, and it started off a bit unstable. Now that things are looking up ... : kingdepork
        • In the last 3 months we've seen 3 games added... that's a pretty decent release rate. If they saturated i... : jake2000
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          because of the very reason why HL2 and Vivendi were suing each other left and right: well financed games... : esky
          • Vivendi's counter suit had no merit. Also, Valve is 100% privately owned and never received any funding f... : samb
      • changes everything for the good. It may be the last chance for indy developers. : kingdepork
    • Quite the opposite I'm sure, or we wouldn't be seeing small independent productions using it. : Chris Remo
    • It bloils down to cost from what I hear. It doesn't make sense for other devs to use Steam, but for an in... : Fred Garvin
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    So in any case does this mean Valve acts as the distributor and gets some bucks? : xphil
    • Probably, though I believe their motivation is that Valve isn't a traditional publisher that finances a g... : esky
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  Ragdoll kung fu has nothing to do with the source engine, same story with Darwinia. It's just being used ... : shotgun1
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    Actually RDKF was developed on the Source engine... : sharkII
    • That's what I thought, but apparently I was wrong? : aggressor
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      nope has nothing to do with it, trust me I couldn't believe it either. Totally seperate engine written by... : shotgun1
      • kung fu faq Ragdoll Kungfu is no mod. Also its not source engine related. Its a 3rd party project progr... : shotgun1

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• you can't just say it sucks without some evidence : RikiTiki2
• Actually it's pretty damn good. It's easier to get a mod up and running on Unreal than it is on just abou... : tomwiththeweather
• are you on crack?.. have you seen the gazillion UT mods? : mc-fine

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  t r o l l e d o u t : Sapiens
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    a u t o b o t s r o l l o u t : zipperface
    • i lol'd : tomwiththeweather
    • my favorite post of the day : d3tached
    • Haha I'm glad I skim the non-chatties now and then. :) : omnova
• http://www.shacknews.com/ja.zz?id=11061386 : losimagic
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  You seriously don't think the RO team didn't sell out? This is a way to increase the userbase of Steam. ... : Defacil
  • Because it isn't just about mirroring the files, it's a new game on the unreal 2.5 engine that will be so... : shotgun1
  • Um... who the hell visits Fileplanet, or Fileshack, or what have you? Geeks, and thats it. Putting it on ... : crummynz
  • Because they want to get paid for it? Honestly, my only worry about the game is that the brain drain that... : sgtsanity

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• heck yeah, RO pickup shackbattles ftw : RikiTiki2
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  Can someone give me a snapshot of RO's gameplay compared to Day of Defeat: Source or Call of Duty? a... : dumptruck
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    For me RO is like DoD and CoD with larger, open battlefields and vehicles. Plus leaning toward the realis... : gb1469
    • DOD and COD2 are quite different though. I guess I'll have to reinstall UT2004 and figure out which pat... : dumptruck
  • After playing lots of RO, DoD felt like quake to me. CoD is a middle ground, a bit slower than DoD and h... : uncle slappy

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• engine license was probably enough. : kingdepork
• I don't think Epic publishes games. As long has the contest got them more licensees they should be hap... : MrLobo
• Epic: "SHIT!!1" : timaste
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  As long as we're all living in a world of speculation here, do you think: (a) The mod team hates Epic ... : esky
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    Epic is not in the publishing business. Besides, after get the license for UE2.5, the RO team can do what... : tomwiththeweather
    • agreed. it's a win for everyone... Valve gets fresh product for Steam. The RO guys get a direct pipeline ... : dumptruck

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  It's called giving back to your community. It's also a publicity stunt in a way, but for the most part e... : omnova
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    Unfortunately it has the side-effect of killing many mods because of that. :/ Such as TF2. (STILL WAIT... : zipperface
    • this post brings up painful memories, *sniff* : vaniah
    • I don't agree. mods will still come out and most likely come out as better products then what red orchest... : italiano3d
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  That's like saying being in boxes on shelves puts Call of Duty and Brothers in Arms in direct competition... : kungfusquirrel
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    I'm not sure that Valve had a hand in "stealing" Alien Swarm. I think the Alien Swarm team made the choic... : tomwiththeweather
    • Actually, now that you mention that, I may just as easily be wrong, too. :) It's possible I'm getting my ... : kungfusquirrel
• You're generalizing... the contest wasn't "FIRST PRIZE: You get to sever all ties with us!"... it was fir... : esky

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  lol, iawitp! : rotten element
  • -i : rotten element
• I never liked it much either, a lot of other more creative and interesting UT2k4 mods that I'd love to se... : nutcrackr
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  After years of CounterStrike, Red Orchestra got me into realism mods again. FUKK DA HATAZ : SpaecKow
  • Is that Orc speak? : Priest77
• disgree. i still think RO is very underrated. it would have a huge community otherwise. still some of... : pyide

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  Unfortuntetly we need those "investors". They help make games profit, therefore helping developers conti... : dilutedq
  • Of course you need investors, but if you have an investor who doesnt hold much interest in the field in w... : happynoodle

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  damn my spelling occured : johnsto
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    i give up : johnsto
    • we'll take the average of the two if it makes you feel any better. : kungfusquirrel

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• Reply to #3 :( : crummynz
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  Well, just because they won a license doesnt mean we should assume they can do whatever they want with it... : johnny skidmarks
  • well for one it probably doesnt stipulate how you are supposed to publish your game. : Maarten Goldstein
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    I think that is exactally what it means. and since epic doesnt publish games, it isnt a problem to distr... : broly1718
    • I thought it was unreal engine 3.0 that they won, I'm not sure why anyone would buy a version so close to... : dangerdoggie
  • whatever they want except release source code. : kingdepork