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• Not mine, but thanks fer askin'. : cerealSAM2
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  It's someones birthday every day... also someone will die today, get laid, get in a car accident, fail a ... : skitzo
  • some girl will get paid a small amount of money to do a obscene act How much and can you give me her numb... : ColoradoCNC
  • that's deep, man. : slax0r
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    I hope I'm the guy who gets laid. I'm over-due for that, even by shack standards. : dmason
    • HAHAHA! That was funny. : lookitzpancakes
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    I CALL NOT SHAVE! : rosewood
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      Damnit! Guess i'll have to go shave then >:( : lapskaus
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        Looks like I'm the one shaving an animal today. :\ : slax0r
        • I guess I'll be the one who gets laid at work : ColoradoCNC
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        I wanted to shave, but since that's taken I'll take do laundry. : DakkaUT
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          But I haven't done laundry in weeks. Please? :( : slax0r
          • Okay, I'll take a shower instead. But you owe me. : DakkaUT
    • I haven't shaved in 2 weeks. I think I will later today though. : TheTick
    • My boy Larry Walker isn't shaving until the Cards win the World Series. I'm with him. : BulletPro
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    george bush smokes crack? : xocsida
    • I wanna see him have a baby : jaga
  • I CALL DRINK A BEER! : TastyWheat
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    i call not die : chazums
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      Smart man... : ColoradoCNC
      • Happy B-Day Maarten! : ColoradoCNC
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    I call die in an Animal attack : ki11_viru5
    • I call sleeping drunk in a trash compactor! : dognose
  • I call post a comment. : lord warlock
  • I call giving birth : MikkleThePickle
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    I call going on a date. haha bitches! : Crimson
    • dmason already called getting laid though, so it sounds like you will go on a unsuccessful date. :P : SilverSnake
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    You missed out "kick out a flat mate" which is what im dreading having to do today. : marmite
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      just pretend you're Duke Nukem and you're out of ammo! it'll be fun. oh and be sure to oggle women and us... : kbnerd
      • Haha... this is going to be funny. : crummynz
  • i was late for work no hope of sex at work today =( : iggypopped
  • I say we all pick one, and then in Evening Reading, we report on it. : thekidd
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  Jesus? : ColoradoCNC
  • no.. thats christmas : ki11_viru5
• Who's birthday is it? Someone gets a spanking. : deep gray
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  whose could it be.. : Maarten Goldstein
  • http://www.nndb.com/people/238/000026160/ : NukeDukem
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    Didn't you just have one last year? : dognose
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      like you know, you were the one who tagged the root post stupid :( : Maarten Goldstein
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        If it's really YOURS I'ma untag it!!! : dognose
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          Now I can't inf. it... what'd you do >:( : dognose
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            me > you : Maarten Goldstein
            • Well we ALL knew THAT >:( : dognose
      • OMG! How the hell did you register your name here back in 81? Oct 12th, 1981 16:14:29 You hack. T... : Optimus Prime
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  Gelukkige verjaardag aan U, Gelukkige verjaardag aan U! Gelukkige GEBOORTE dag, beste MAAArten, Gelu... : dognose
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    En veel meer! : dognose
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      U bent mooi : dognose
      • I hope what I said was nice :( : dognose
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        Deze man is gek! : rosewood
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          haha, i love it : Maarten Goldstein
          • WE love U : dognose
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            ik hou van je!!! : blackhawk
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              Wanneer u wil dansen neem een beweging in uw gehijg! : rosewood
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                i'm not quite sure what you put into babelfish there : Maarten Goldstein
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                  Kippensoep eters zingen met de engelen vijftien mijlen in de lucht : rosewood
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                    Feest iedere dag en drank bier wanneer uw huis in brand is! : rosewood
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                      Hou je neukende gezicht omeneuker. : [7]kami
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                        Wanneer tijd vliegen bestuurder schroeven, proef alsof aardappelen! : rosewood
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                          Gimme the url to your translator so i can reverse engineer that mess you just posted into your silly engl... : [7]kami
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                            Bevrijd Vertaling voor kaas en koekjes, eet het verse fruit op donderdag! : rosewood
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                              Geil. : [7]kami
                              • gaaf! : moshman
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                              Ik kan uw boot ruiken van op de dijk. Snijd het met een bijl en telefoneer me de ochtend. : jrock
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                                "I can smell your boat of on the dike. Cut it with an axe and telephone themselves the morning." O_o : c0bra
                                • of/from and themselves/me give Babblefish much trouble. : jrock
                      • lol : moshman
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    For a moment, I thought it was the King of the Cosmos talking : geedeck
    • dognose can speak in tongues. : kbnerd
• did you buy yourself some nice presents Maarten? Happy Birthday! : moshman
• Gefeliciteerd Maarten. : [7]kami
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  Herzlischen Gliggwunsch zum Geburdsdaach! : askedrelic
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    See you and Jurgen Klinsmann in 2006. Schade Deutshland, alles ist forbei. Alles is forbei. Alles is ... : [7]kami
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      hahaha, lollerific. If Germany would have to qualify for 2006, they would be fooked : moshman
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        The USA soccer team managed to beat them. If that's not lol, i dunno what is. : [7]kami
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          to be fair that game hardly had the best team playing for germany. But their loss to turkey was fatal, t... : moshman
          • I hope zee Germans will make it to the (semi) finals and then meet us (Holland) to finish off what Turkey... : [7]kami
      • Mark my words: They will win next year, with the same amount of luck that got them into the final game la... : Mad Brahmin Disease
• omg mine!! how nice of you guys. <tear> : zyklonbee
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  Why doesn't this make front page news? : amrbean
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    I'm sure steve will say something in ER. Maarten is hardly going to toot his own horn : moshman
    • He might at least have told us he had a horn to toot. : Bagpuss
• Happy birthday, my favorite hot and wet Dutchman. I can't believe I got to meet you this year, I don't... : Mad Brahmin Disease
• http://www3.kumc.edu/diversity/other/comeout.html (dognose's link) so close! : -Panther-
• Gelukkige Verjaardag u grootindustrieel! everyone post Maarten a Happy Birthday message in Dutch! ... : -Panther-
• Happy Birthday, Maarten!! I'd buy you a drink or three if you were here. : edlin
• Happy Birthday Smaarten ^_^;; : Deathlove
• Afbijtmiddelen voor iedereen! : felicia
• Snuifje j00!!!!! : dognose
• SpaceCakes for Everybody!!! : hirez
• HAPPY BIRTHDAY MAARTEN! WE NEED TO BRING BACK THE MAARTEN DANCE!! : Ajax
• Happy burfday, I got you a plastic cowboy hat! : khaosman
• OMG!!! Happy Birthday Maarten!!! : mofo
• Maarten its your birthday, happy birthday Maarten... : crummynz
• Happy birthday... to you... mr. vice president.. happy birthday... to you... : carnivore
• Happy Burfday Maarten !! : helvetica
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  http://hwmanthem.ytmnd.com/ : James T. Kirk
  • I salute our comerade *tear* Happy. Birfday. : get_navi
• happy poptart day birthday! : BongSlayerB
• OMG have a hot wet birthday! : thebigbeefsandwich
• HAPPY BIRTHDAY :D : megarust32
• happy birthday! now play some burnout revenge with us :/ : creep

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  That sounds pretty cool. But how do you make stuff from the game show up on that lcd screen? : riptyde
  • software has to support it...so you never will ;( : IcomeINpeace
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  Some shacker said he got one at Best Buy, but our (compusa) disrributor says they won't be in till 10/25.... : Dynotaku
  • -- I work at Best Buy in Columbus, OH...We had them in on Sunday and they are available now. We opened o... : MuteMode
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  I have one already. Bought it at Best Buy B&M store.. Another shacker: http://www.shacknews.com/ja.zz?i... : cr00kedview
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    How do you like it? : Serpico74
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      It's nice, but the box and pictures are a bit misleading. The only "plugins" available for the LCD at th... : cr00kedview
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        Forgot to mention - You can set up game profiles for the "G" keys that load automatically when the game ... : cr00kedview
        • ahhh okay, cool... thanks for the mini-review : prime8
        • Also - There's a plugin to display media information from programs like Windows Media Player, MediaLife, ... : cr00kedview
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        Well, Logitech announced last week that we're supporting the LCD display in "SiN: Episodes." Kinda nifty... : Ritual-MikeR
        • That's pretty slick right there. : FormerHPB
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          Nice! I'm guessing they'll release a plugin for that specific game. Each plugin has to be loaded into m... : cr00kedview
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            The game recognizes the keyboard, not the other way around. It is the same as a joystick or mouse. : byorn
            • Well shit, that's even better. : cr00kedview
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              True. We detect the G15 driver, and if it's present, we spit info out to the display. : Ritual-MikeR
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                Sweet! Will there be a way to choose what's sent to the display? : cr00kedview
                • Right now, you can cycle through three seperate stat screens for the LCD display. However, one is curren... : Ritual-MikeR
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        The real question is does it need it's own desk? : omnova
        • Haha, it is a large keyboard. Overall width from left to right is about 22 inches, depth (front to back,... : cr00kedview
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        what shell do you use? : hirez
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          Geoshell. http://www.geoshell.com : cr00kedview
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            hahah. blocked by work: : hirez
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              Your request was denied because of its content categorization: "Dating/Social" : hirez
              • Hah, you know, those alternative shell sites are a great way to find a date. : cr00kedview
      • Thanks for the review! : Serpico74
      • Awesome, thanks for the review. : askedrelic
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        Quick 'N' Dirty video Here's a short little fly-by of the keyboard. Couldn't make it long, becuase it... : cr00kedview
        • nice : askedrelic
        • Thanks for this. I was planning on buying one anyway, but it's nice to see just how it's illuminated. Ver... : Dynotaku
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        I heard the programming source was available to allow people to make plugins. true? : lowayne
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          Yep, the SDK (seems more like just cpp files and header files to me for compilers) is included on the CD.... : cr00kedview
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            Buy me one and I'll make you totally LCD apps. lol : ThomW
            • Haha, if you wanted I could probably send you the SDK files. Don't think that'd be against the EULA.. : cr00kedview
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        Is it OMG LOL XBOX HUGE? I can't see this thing fitting into my keyboard tray. : jason bergman
        • I'm always in the market for a new keyboard, but I use the now discontinued Thrustmaster Tactical Board..... : prime8
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          Here's a picture for a little comparison between the Saitek and G15: http://sio.midco.net/relic/compare.j... : cr00kedview
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            It really doesn't look that much larger. The rubber keys are the biggest knock for me. I was hopping ... : stgdz
            • There's more of a click compared to the Eclipse. They keys on the G15 seem like hard rubber or a weird p... : cr00kedview
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        Think those G keys would be perfect for programs that can use a lot of global keys like teamspeak, fubar2... : d0gbert
        • Yeah, that might work. There are 3 different groups of macros (toggled by 3 "M" keys), so theoretically ... : cr00kedview
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        On the upside it looks to have a full-size Backspace key and a proper arrow key arrangement. Now the impo... : jrock
        • Just tested the keys in Quake 3 and didn't seem to have any problem with simultaneous key presses. I eve... : cr00kedview
      • Nice review, thanks. I was wondering if it was worth dropping the money on it, but it sounds like quality... : helvetica
      • The fact that there is an SDK doesn't make me worry : rosewood
      • I picked it up today. It could be a great keyboard (I especially enjoy the integration with iTunes, which... : sharpie
      • I picked this up on lunch today! : firethorn
  • That bastard, going to run a errand now anyways. How do you like yours though? : stgdz
  • do you like it? : prime8
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  Cool idea and all, but I never look at my keyboard, especially when gaming. : Derringer
  • Neither did I until i got this thing. I can't wait for some of the plugins for this. I have been lookin... : stgdz
• Do they make an split-keyboard version? If not then it's fucking shit. : CplBeaker

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• Video iPods FTW. : mojoald
• i hope they reduce the size at least a bit and show updated macs too though :( : Gaurav Sharma
• Hmm. The nano's size is perfect imo. If they could get 40 or even 20 gigs in those suckers it should repl... : not work safe
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  Wow at the rate these things are getting released, I'm afraid to buy one as next month there will be a be... : AtaR1
  • same here, been holding off for exactly the same reason. : Silent Wolf
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    When did the main iPod line get a major revision? iPod Photo is pretty old at this point, and so were the... : jake2000
    • well outside of photoipods i think the other big revision to that line was probably the click wheel : creep
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      They phased out the iPod Photo with color iPods that were smaller. I love my iPod Photo, but the newer on... : jason bergman
      • Oh yeah. I think I've been blocking iPod revs out to keep myself sane. My B&W 20 gig 4G iPod is pretty g... : jake2000
  • I have non color, gen 4 ipod. I dont really see a need to upgrade. My investment a year ago is still a go... : Grandmoff
• wider... yuck. they should have rotated them sideways like a PSP. : manero
• I think they are reading too much into artist interpretation : VegasX
• i dont think video. but the placement of the headphone jack might mean it takes cards or something now. : get_navi
• but what about the powerbook dualcore/800fsb speed bump?!? : kevp
• Alright let's try to keep today's Apple related discussion in this thread. : Carnivac
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  Engadget an 'engineering sample' pic http://www.engadget.com/entry/1234000243063029/ They say it will... : Carnivac
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    My guess is it plays stupid music videos to go with the songs you download through itunes : bozer
    • but hopefully they have F loads of ads to get through first; and oh yeah, model it after MTV so you don't... : proclone1
    • don't forget the commecials attached at the beginning of the videos : kevp
  • probably mp4 trailers and clips : VegasX
  • maybe it has a short refresh time, but overheats if used with video for too long? : biskits
  • Amusing AOEIII ad on that page. : graah
  • It'll play movies but pause for 1 second between each and every scene. :) And most people will say it's n... : nudel
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  Photograph'd? http://www.macrumors.com/downloads/5G_ipod.jpg : jake2000
  • With the serial number sticker on the front? Geez. http://www.xs4all.nl/~lucasrag/pics/ : jake2000
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  0.4 inches bigger!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! : 60days
  • Yeah, i got a few hundred mails that promises 4-6 inch's more.. in just 3 weeks! : -TKF-
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  :( NEEDS MORE DUAL DUAL G5 POWERMAC : Toraz Chryx
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    AND MORE POWERBOOK SPEED BUMP : the archvile
    • *PIPEDREAM'D* : kevp
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    AND MORE G5 MAC-MINI ! : qwpeoriu
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      and more free stuff! : not work safe
      • AND A BIGGER SWITCH!! : the archvile
    • OH MY : Gaurav Sharma
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  sources have just informed me that the first announcement is... a new IMAC? what? : Toraz Chryx
  • excellent, just in time for me to sell my powerbook and buy a 20" imac. : manero
  • new iMac with integrated iSight camera, 2x as thin as current imac??! : jake2000
  • AWESOME TO THE MAX : nomaad
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  Is your live press event site of choice hosed? http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.m... : jake2000
  • I am SO confused by that thread : byorn
• Engadget: "Apparently there’s a Salling Clicker replacement for the Mac—a Mac r... : J4NUS
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  [1:15 PM ET] Update Live updates will not be possible due to the lack of Wi-Fi and bad cellular coverage... : sketchuout
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    http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.macnews.de%2F&langpair=de%7Cen&hl=en&c2coff=1&ie... : psxtim
    • Hahaha One can buy five Shows on iTunes, among them about to Desperate Housewives. One knows the Shows on : sgtsanity
  • Engadget is still going, somehow, despite those difficulties. : J4NUS
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  Updates from BBC TV centre in UK http://www.stuffmag.co.uk/hotstuffarticle.asp?de_id=594 (yes, stuff mag : Carnivac
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    Your video iPod news:}y - Act Two:the iPod. Apple has shipped over a million Nanos in less than five... : Carnivac
    • Cool stuff. I wonder if MPEG4 means it can play Divx/Xvid :O : nomaad
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      if they charge $500 for this, it will NOT sell : byorn
      • I'm sure it will be the same $300/$400 the current iPods are. : pyrogen
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      once again, I get better news coverage in the latest chatty than anywhere on the web. : phlavor
      • lol : psxtim
    • it's thinner than the current 20gb color, wow : Gaurav Sharma
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      30GB $300, 60GB $400, also in black. : Carnivac
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        new 60gb is thinner than even current 20gb ipod. tempting. : Gaurav Sharma
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          what's the width and height of it compared to the old 20gb ipod? : carnivore
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            looks a bit wider, same height, a lot thinner : Gaurav Sharma
            • damn, i could go for same width, shorter & thiner. : mojoald
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      BTW, PSP screen specs: 480 x 272 pixels, capable of 16.77 million colors : byorn
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        yes, but a 4GB memory stick costs more than 5 ipod photo 60GBs : Gaurav Sharma
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          You can stick a coupla H.1246whatever movies on a gig memory stick easily though, those things are only g... : node
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            PSP + 4GB memstick vs iPod 60GB. Factor in iTunes videos etc too. The PSP is way too much effort for th... : Gaurav Sharma
            • But you'll be able to play GTA on it. \m/ : FormerHPB
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            Does the PSP read h.264 yet? :( : sgtsanity
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              Yes, since 2.0. i.e. for ages now. : nudel
              • Hmm, actually that may only be from UMD and not from Memory Sticks for some reason, unless I'm reading th... : nudel
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      iTunes 6 - video downloads. : Carnivac
      • hopefully plays divx :) : Grandmoff
      • Ok that's speculation at this point, but got to be coming. : Carnivac
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        hopefully the videos are better quality then what the iPod screen supports : byorn
        • you're being a real downer, aren't you? : carnivore
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        There we go, 2000 music video downloads. : Carnivac
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          $2 a pop. And 6 Pixar shorts. : Carnivac
          • oof. people will really pay to watch music videos that have been free up to this point just to take the... : smacknca
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        you don't need a 6 for that, 5 does it. : phlavor
        • holy crap he's right. 5 only lasted 5 weeks! : phlavor
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          go to itunes right now, they are there. You can also buy lost episodes currently for $2.00. : Grandmoff
          • Now THAT sounds cool. : sgtsanity
          • No way... that's sweet and actually reasonably priced. Amazing. : derelict515
          • itunes 6 is up http://www.apple.com/itunes/download/ : sketchuout
          • where do i look for this? : suqur
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  I heard a rumor Apple was going to make computers. : EvilDolemite
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    Their computers don't make them much money. Ipod is the only reason apple is still around : mojoald
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      you might wanna go read their financials report again. : Toraz Chryx
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        But how many of those Mac have been sold on account of the iPod. : mojoald
        • Do you own a pair of kevlar tennis shoes? : VegasX
        • that's nothing to do with what you said. : Toraz Chryx
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      What is 44%? : vigilante
      • Masta Blasta run 44% : VegasX
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      lol this is such a retarded statement. : VegasX
      • That's impossible on the shack. : carnivore
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  Prices for new imac: 1299 US dollar the 17-Zoll-Modell with 1,5 GHz, 1799 US dollar the 20-tariff model ... : psxtim
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    1.5Ghz? what? slowest G5 ever shipped? that had better be a 970MP : Toraz Chryx
    • They had a typo. its 1.9 ghz : baron calamity
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  BOOYAH!! http://www.stuffmag.co.uk/hotstuffarticle.asp?de_id=594 Check it out! : senseimoron
  • http://www.shacknews.com/ja.zz?id=10899877 : Carnivac
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  TV show episodes on iTunes! : J4NUS
  • ^^^Awesome. : nomaad
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    $1.99 for a TV Show episode isn't THAT bad, but $1.99 for a music video? Ouch. : FormerHPB
    • I already have an armada of music videos at home... I'm just worried about the filetypes the iPod will ac... : snuff
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  new hardware pages seem to be up now: http://www.apple.com/imac/ http://www.apple.com/ipod/ : burningtrees
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    Oh wow, more battery life too? Geez, apple is on top of things. : sgtsanity
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      On top of things?!?!?! The glaring battery issues shouldn't have even made it to their 2nd gen. : FormerHPB
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        What recent glaring battery issues have there been? Oh wait, none? : Fayk
        • 20 hours is fine but hardly industry leading. Sony and other manufacturers have had 20+ hours for a long ... : nudel
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          Didn't the 2nd and 3rd gen still suffer from batteries not lasting the amnt of time advertised??? : FormerHPB
          • Yeah, and I'm pretty sure the Model T doesn't work well either anymore, especially for highway speeds. ... : Fayk
  • the new iMac is PCI-Express + DDR2 based WHERE THE FUCK IS THE POWERMAC BASED ON THIS SHIT GODDAMNIT? : Toraz Chryx
• Is that 4:3 or 16:9? : mojoald
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  http://www.apple.com/ipod/ipod.html All pretty and posted : smacknca
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    God DAMNIT. There goes another $300. Anyone wanna buy a 20GB 4G??? : snuff
    • I think I'll get a black one with Deluxe Apple Booger Checker engraved on the back : snuff
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  a sizzling new PCI-Express ATI Radeon X600 Pro or XT graphics processor with 128MB of dedicated video mem : Visceral Monkey
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    Holy shit that's like entirely adequate!!! : Fred Garvin
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      This is true. I would have killed for a mini with it :( : Visceral Monkey
      • I would still kill for a mini with that :( : warpdude
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  Old Color: 5.9 ounces 2.4 x 4.1 x .63 inches New Video: 4.8 ounces 2.4 x 4.1 x 0.43 inches : mojoald
  • Hopefully Costco gets these in soon. : jake
• Don't know if this was said elsewhere but you can upload your own mpeg4 videos to the new iPods btw. You ... : jake2000
• At least you can get it in black now. That's been a long time coming. My question is if you order black... : FormerHPB
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  New Imac G5 to have Composite out for tv's/projectors...finally! Shit I could do my HD video editing and ... : VegasX
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    You mean component, right? : carnivore
    • Ew, it actually is composite. Well, you won't be getting HD output with that, though you might with the V... : carnivore
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  For shame, apple, no powerbook updates >:( : kevp
  • I guess the next mayor powerbook update will come when intel macs are ready. : larcho
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  Okay, the video iPod is cool and it's about time that someone took the plunge with downloadable TV shows.... : Fred Garvin
  • because apple fanboys are freaks. toraz is the perfect example of this. ;) : FormerHPB
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    To a lot of people here, the fact the iMac has a speed, bus speed, and processor speed bump is not insign... : Fayk
    • I'm mainly o_O'ing at 1) PCI-E + DDR2, wheres the fucking Powermac based on that chipset goddamnit 2)... : Toraz Chryx
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      Yeah, I guess, but it seems to take a lot to get other hardware nuts excited, but a 200MHz processor spee... : Fred Garvin
      • 100Mhz.... and an entirely new mainboard, in a new enclosure : Toraz Chryx
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  Man that is some slick shit, Apple. gg. I have one of these: http://www.atari7800.com/turbo/exp.htm ... : Odoyle
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    are you serious ipods are terrible : gegtik
    • Yeah, they have nowhere near the versitility of a real PC. Also you can't customize the components!!! WTF : jake2000
  • psst... the PSP plays videos too :[ : warpdude
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  Ok I must be a retard.. how do you FIND the TV shows/music videos to buy in iTunes 6? I mean, I see the ... : adev
  • I'm guessing they aren't available yet, so they aren't listed there yet... : FormerHPB
• Where do I plug in my ipod remote :( : ventro
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  I guess I should still hold off on the 12" PBG4; Thinksecret has a rumor that the "Mac stuff" might be an... : the archvile
  • With the bump of the pbook 12 my previously state-of-the-art mac collection (1 year old 20" iMac G5, pboo... : BulletPro
• £1.89 for a video :| : xenoeye
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  Apple Noob ?: So when do we get our x86? : moonbreaker
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    not until next summer i don't think. but still ... isn't that pretty much a major deterrent for anybody i... : qwpeoriu
    • Yeah, I think so... but I'm not a member of the Apple Idiots Fan Club. :( : rasputinreborn
• Hrm, their "Free Single of the Week" isn't so free right now. Pricing error maybe? I hope so, I don't... : adsquirrel

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  lol its quake stop bitching. I mean quake!! Who neeeds bots? There will always be newbs on pubs. : boomstickah
  • Reaperbot was awesome! : Krypt_
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  I might not even be buying it. I got Quake 1-3 on release day. I'll probably get FEAR instead. : nomaad
  • I just found my tin Quake3 box! : not work safe
  • this is the worst news ever!! i bought 1-3 on release day too.. have my tin box.. and pre-ordered 4 at qu... : dextius
• That sucks. Oh well, there's always FEAR and Collosus. : Iscariot47
• Ouch is right. : gl2 drivers
• NWN2 in the same issue! Score! : Jabby
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  I'd play this for the SP but I'll wait for a demo. I found out that SP for Q3 was just multiplayer offli... : thejm4n
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    you found that out after you bought it? It was known for over a year quake3 would be a multilpayer based ... : armybob
    • I didn't buy it, someone gave it to me. : thejm4n
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    Quake 3 itself was stupid. : Iscariot47
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      yep, it was a complete downward spiral from quake1. quake2 was tolerable but quake3 was absolutely pathet... : grindking
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        The blessing and curse of the Quake sequels is that they were billed as sequels to the original Quake whe : Ajax
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          Ajax dude, we agree on something - may the heavens open up and shower you with something funky. : abrasion
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            You know I think that Quake II admission might have actually been on id Software's website. I was trying ... : Ajax
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              Even though Quake 1 didn't have much of a story, the gothic dark world was kind of awesome - it was reall... : abrasion
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                I'd get a kick out of seeing the original Quake characters and levels remastered on the Doom 3 engine. Al : Ajax
                • The Q2 into movie was pretty kickass; it's too bad the setup didn't really carry over into the game...it ... : Waverider
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            wtf a positive post by abrasion... : armybob
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              haha http://www.shacknews.com/ja.zz?id=10902068 : rasputinreborn
              • hahaah : armybob
  • Your post is exactly why I was hated at the shack all those years ago. It's so god damned fucking true... : abrasion
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  * L O L I T ' S A H O A X ' D * : SlamDunk
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    The issue has NWN2 on the cover. The review runs from page 72 to 78 (pages 75 and 77 are ads). The previo... : Schnapple
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      He is laughing because when this was posted on another forum days ago everyone was claiming it was a hoax... : d3tached
      • man, I'm never the first to get my issue... : Schnapple
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  Past PC Gamer reviews: Quake: 90% Quake II: 92% Quake III: Arena : 80% Quake III: Team Arena: : Schnapple
  • Q3 had some lasting power in my circle of lan dudes. It was a game that everyone could play, looked good,... : cpt_gloval
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  WHO CARES IF ONE MEASLEY MONEY DRIVEN ORGANIZATION GIVES A REVIEW OF 70% BUT GIVE OTHER GAMES LIKE POKEMO... : jane911
  • capslock key is on your left, door is to your right : Gauss
  • this post brings the funny : thebigbeefsandwich
  • ... : genjuro
  • Ease off the crack... : freshyk
  • at first i thought this was another hurricane warning : ermac
  • Feb 4th, 2004 15:52:49 : VegasX
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    *yells at scientists* All the science has been discovered guys. Call it off. : sgtsanity
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      what about the science of boobies? : sanchez
      • boobiology : megarust32
  • this post is awesome : mr.sleepy
  • Gee, I guess all those gamers who loved Q1 SP and Q2 SP* must be stupid eh? Gee I guess the people wri... : abrasion
  • i think you wandered into the wrong article. the quake4 thread for all the crazies is somewhere else. : biskits
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    I KNOW RITE WHAT DID THE NON-PROFIT MAGZ GIVE IT?? : PUPSTAHS
    • WE WILL SEE WHAT GAMESPY SAYS lawl : jane911
  • ^^ This post delivers ^^ : Normality
• If the almighty chuck morris says it's not good I guess I won't buy it. Wait.... I'll just make up my ... : -efx-
• F.E.A.R. is oozing with originality! That little spooky girl thing, how did they come up with that? : xenoeye
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  Who gives a fuck what a magazine says about a game. I subscribe to the theory that the only true critic i... : mr.sleepy
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    A very sensible approach that I practice myself. : te[R]ror
    • Yeah exactly, why the hell would I pay someone else for an oppinion that is just as educated as my own? P... : SpaecKow
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  how is MP with REAL people though? do they review that? : jcutner
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    I've only played it for about an hour but I thought it was great. That's just me though, I'm not really ... : Chris Remo
    • Played it at Quakecon with real people and had a blast. Nobody I spoke with was disappointed with it at ... : brakula
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  I have to agree on the vehicle front. Like I said in my preview, felt like a "kitchen sink" thing they w... : Chris Remo
  • sorry there is no place in this thread for people who have actually played the game, only completly basel... : belal
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  Of course Q4 "played it safe", Raven made it, kings of mediocrity in FPS design. : Serpico74
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    If this is the kind of mentality that got Q4 a 70% rating from the guys that gave DOOM 3 a 94% and Half-L... : mittense
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      HL2 deserved that score. Doom 3 was shite. I can't depend on consistency from PC Gamer either way. Tha... : Serpico74
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        I completely disagreed with the Half-Life 2 score. Calling it "the best game ever" was just a travesty I ... : mittense
        • 98% may be pushing it, but its definately in the 90s there somewhere. Doom 3 on the other hand, though... : Serpico74
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        No way did HL2 deserve 98%. I'd say maybe 90%. It's an incredibly linear game that didn't bring much ne... : timmie
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          I'd give HL2 mp a 98%, because gravity gun fights are seriously the best thing ever. : riptyde
          • If you replace "best thing" with "worst gimmick," I totally agree. : mittense
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        Doom 3 in no way was shit. Fear will be the first fps to take it from the top of the fps list. : dilutedq
        • You're such a q-tey :) : rasputinreborn
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  UT2007 is gonna own! : omnova
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    not as much as DNF IS GONNA OWN!! : AlexXdude
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      Guys, guys! We won't know until they're out : dognose
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        or you could just ask mr. sleepy about DNF : moonbreaker
        • the chatter-bitcher! :D : AlexXdude
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        You're supposed to back me up about DNF! :( : AlexXdude
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          3DR pays me. You don't. : dognose
          • Fine! I see how it's going to be from now on. :( : AlexXdude
          • Kidding! I was KIDDING! Don't get all mad! Jeez! >:( : dognose
          • Viral marketing, I knew it! : Sarcastro
      • I thought this was an identity-theft post when I first read it. :( : cajuncook
    • we all know TF2 is gonna fucking own harder : sigpro
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  The base of my decisions on Q4 and FEAR: FEAR: I downloaded the single-player demo and played it. The : the archvile
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    The intro in FEAR was skippable. You had to press escape and choose Skip Cinematic. : freshyk
    • oh. I have a bad habit from the HL days of not pressing Escape because it would take so long to get back... : the archvile
  • if the gammed bogged down to 3 fps chances are quake 4 will run just as worse, but that depends on how sc... : ballystix
• honestly who gives a flying fuck what pc gamer thinks. Im still getting it, i love ravens games. : Silent1
• Oh damn. I just realized I ordered the CD version, not the DVD version. Oh well... :( : Colleton
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  FUCK YOU! Bots is the thing that ruined quake and other online games, bots should be only MOD side of the... : zacstone
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    agreed, though I do like being able to set up a botmatch if I don't have a good connection, or if all the... : the archvile
    • I like to fire up the game just to walk around the levels and get the feel for weapons/maps. If there are... : te[R]ror
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  No bots is a plus in my book. If I want to play MP, I'll hop online and shoot real people. 10 hours... : ThomW
  • Agreed... I HATE Dev time being wasted on putting in bots... their useless imo... : ShadowRam
• You know looking at reviews like this, why don't reviewers rate the single player and the multiplayer sep... : K1Bond007
• I'll disagree. FEAR looks like they tacked on The Ring and Bullet Time onto your average "run through lab... : Kryn
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  I don't feel Quake 4 will be a 70% game, and I think PCG is just trying to make a statement or an example... : GeorgeB3DR
  • Agreed George, I've been arguing that for a while. An opinion can't be quantified down to an precision... : Carnivac
  • Quake 4's getting punished for being a Raven game/being a game associated with post-Doom3 id/whatever - a... : SpaecKow
  • We use a fivestar system over at fragzone ( fz.se ) and it's the best thing since sliced meat. If some... : MrLonghair
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    Well I agree that the 100-point system has the flaw that we associate them with things like the point sys : Schnapple
    • And what exactly makes Alpha Centauri one percent better than HL? How can you actually describe a differ... : Carnivac
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      5 stars is 5 stars. We don't need the 90-100 range for future goodness. A game is 1-5 stars when it shi... : GeorgeB3DR
      • I agree completely. Rate it like movies. : TheTick
      • I, for one, would be happy for a thumbs-up, thumbs-down rating..... 8-) : zipper76
      • game reviewers would still give it 3.4323432342 stars : cap n KRUNCH
  • I think this low score is just there to "correct" the mistake they did with Doom 3s 94%! : PnCia
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  Does that issue have any Neverwinter Nights 2 stuff on it? Or is that the next month after that? : valiance
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    That's the issue with NWN2 on the cover. : freshyk
    • WTF, they release "December" issues in early October? That is just ridiculous. : valiance
• I really dont care that much about the SP, ill be buying it for the MP. : suicidemachine
• I never even bothered to finish Q1 SP it was just so bad. MP, hm well, I guess the hours I spent on that ... : MrMethane

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• DEDICATED LOST THREAD : thekidd
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  i had a peter griffin moment at that scene : creep
  • I never will trust those damn chickens again... : jokemon
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  can't help thinking Rose ends up in the hatch for a reason : thekidd
  • conjugal visits with her husband she'll be reunited with : redfive
• "The owls are not what they seem" : aethyr
• lol i bet hugo eats everything : infiltrator`
• He used to work at a chicken place. : FormerHPB
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  haha is sawyer anyone else's favorite character? : infiltrator`
  • he's my favorite next to hugo or locke : jokemon
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    agree - and michelle rodriguez's character is annoying, very annoying : siknsyko
    • I agree, but I also find charlie getting more and more annoying with this season : Unleashed
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      She should die. I'm getting tired of her whole tough girl thing : jokemon
      • I'm not a fan of that khunt either. : LexLuther
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  helloooooo starla : creep
  • Oh yes please. : mittense
• did you see that girls nipples : mr.sleepy
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  WTF hatch 2?????? : FormerHPB
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    guess so and apparently they suck at staying alive : infiltrator`
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      cannibals? : creep
      • or the sickness that the French Woman mentioned. : riptyde
    • it seems like they had it 10x as hard IF hatch 2 had weapons, food, etc. : tcxsnoop
• Wow, the show is moving at a far faster pace this season. : mittense
• cannibals??? : siknsyko
• Goddamn this show is so good. : derelict515
• no no no what're you doing hurley, no! : thekidd
• Hurley's got a point about the food. Trying to handle it and divide it equally is gonna be trouble : brooksmarlin
• Poor Hurley :( : MuteMode
• is it me or is hugo disgustingly obese... i mean i can understand the need for an overweight guy and his : infiltrator`
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  Uh, what the hell? Where was the scene where Jin said "Everything is going to change?" It was in the p : mittense
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    at the very beginning, before the LOST logo : byorn
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      Oh. Well. That'd explain it. Stupid preview may it actually seem important though. : mittense
      • they always do that, like with Locke 'getting shot' last season. They never actually reveal any oh shit m... : derelict515
      • It was very important... what Jin said "Everything is going to change" came true...the hiding of the bunk : Paranoid Android
  • very beginning : MuteMode
  • first 2 minutes of this episode : creep
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  didn't last week's preview for this week show jin speaking english? and this next preview shows him still : infiltrator`
  • good show : MuteMode
  • you missed the beginning of the episode apparently : derelict515
  • Uh no, it was in the very first seconds of the episode. It was a crazy dream Hugo had, Jin was speak : Paranoid Android
  • http://www.shacknews.com/ja.zz?id=10902854 : creep
  • http://www.shacknews.com/ja.zz?id=10902850 : mittense
  • at the VERY start of the show. Hurley is dreaming next to the computer, it is a dream. Jin says it is all : byorn
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  I rate this episode 3/10 As far as I am concerned we really didn't learn anything new this episode. W : jokemon
  • I rate this episode 3/10 etc Lost usually takes a long time to tell us anything...I personally enjoy t... : MuteMode
  • I think they should have a 2 hour episode and just tell us everything then end the show, amirite? : kingdepork
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    anyone who says "we didn't learn anything" should stfu and stop : mr brown
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      yes, srsly. if you hate it, just stop watching it. : eskimo spy
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        I still like the show. I was just hoping for more. : jokemon
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          it's a serialized show. not only that, it's the beginning of the season. anyone expecting every answer... : mr brown
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            I'm SORRY Mr. Brownie I forgot the part where I typed I wanted EVERYTHING explained!!! I don't want EV... : jokemon
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              oh c'mon after episodes 1 and 3 of this season where they showed you what was in the hatch, why he was th... : mr brown
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                Wait. They didn't tell us why he was there. We knew how he came to be there, what he did ever 108 minutes : j33uk
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                  well we know why on the surface, but of course there's going to be other reasons beneath that. It's still... : mr brown
                  • I think the main thing is that out of ALL the mysteries, there hasn't been on concrete fully explained th : j33uk
  • while I disagree, I reccomend you stop watching the previews so you can maybe enjoy at least some of the ... : derelict515
  • Conversely, I rate it 8/10 Episode was awesome in being just a regular show. It bleed out some answer : thekidd
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  i'm so glad we found Bernard!! : mr brown
  • LUCKY he gets to eat an apollo bar : infiltrator`
  • And here everyone thought the big black guy would end up being Bernard! Rose got her some jungle fever! : riptyde
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  i'm so sick of this shit. they better start explaining SOMETHING, ANYTHING. yeah i know, it's supposed to : servweb2
  • I feel like we've gone a lot farther than the first few episodes of last season : derelict515
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    EXACTLY. The ONLY thing i found interesting was jack and sayeed exploring around. And they didn't reall... : jokemon
    • i miss the hammer dude : romulan
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    if that's how you feel, stop watching it now and wait until the end and then read on an internet website ... : phobium
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      Blame MTV and move on :) : GeorgeB3DR
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        No, blame bad writing. You can have ongoing mysteries in a plot and a story arc and have episodes with a... : Torgo
        • I suggest they buy Twin Peaks and learn from that : jokemon
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          did the X-files move the main arc any faster? : derelict515
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            We didn't find out what happened to Samantha until season 7. : AlvinKlein
            • Did. Not. Happen. Ugh starlight children my ass : j33uk
    • i do appreciate the plots/characters/mumbo jumbo but i feel that at this point they are just strining us ... : servweb2
• Well I personally thought it was a good episode. I think it's unfortunate that they built up the mystery ... : K1Bond007
• Heh. A shower. And probably by extension, a shaver and other things. They need no longer concern themsel : j33uk
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  Did anyone notice when Hurley was drinking milk, there was a little black kid on the milk carton. I'm alm : bozer
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    http://homepage.mac.com/marycrist/Lost/HurleyMilkCarton.jpg : bozer
    • Cool. Just a dream too. Nice trivia item there. : K1Bond007
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  It feels like they're ramping things up pretty fast, almost as if they want to get us to a new level of s : LexLuther
  • This is what I'm thinking. Compared to last year, we're getting a ton of answers per episode. I thi... : thekidd

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• Please tell me you are kidding. : fugu124
• There goes all my motivation for the Xbox 360 launch. : sevogajre
• no other games worth it for you at launch? it's only 2 weeks after launch. : burningtrees
• I hope they don't bump back the date for the PC. I want to play this game. =( : helvetica
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  NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO-eventhoyoudiditalready! : thebroccoli
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    I like your username! Broccoli is one of my favorite veggies. : helvetica
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      broccoli is totally awesome : gegtik
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        It's really underrated. : Mad Brahmin Disease
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          Broccoli cured my cancer. : edgewise
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            I hear if you eat broccoli you never need a dentist : alexthegreat2
            • ...to feed you broccoli. : edgewise
          • And my leprosy. : Mad Brahmin Disease
          • And my AIDS! : AlexXdude
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            Broccoli kicked my dog and gave me gas. : Ride-My-Rocket
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              Broccoli made me pregnant : X Fuzion
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                Broccoli gave me erectile dysfunction : someWayne
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                  Brockoly made me stupid : sixfoot6
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                    now I want broccoli for dinner : Degenerate
                    • I feel so loved, who would have thought a vegetable could bring the murderous humans together? : thebroccoli
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  I blame speon. : Mad Brahmin Disease
  • ...there may be some programmers that would agree with you there. ;) Hey guys, wouldn't it be great if... : speon
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  I wouldn't be surprised if you see lots of other game delays. It's difficult for people to turn out a qu... : aethyr
  • ^^^^^^^^^^^^ : abrasion
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    this is what I would assume. it's funny how people have no memory of this happening with other console la... : thebigbeefsandwich
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      Frankly, I'm surprised at the pace they are getting these things running as it is, they've had final deve... : abrasion
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        lol at MS throwing $$$ at us...to quote Arnold: "It doesn't verk dat vay." ...not saying we wouldn't t : speon
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          Really - how does it work? - I know developers are normally stressed as it is - this particular timefram... : abrasion
          • It's more like we pay them lots of $$$ for Apple G5s dev kits and work our asses off (our=programmers) tr... : speon
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  Fuck the 360 man, it's a nice console and will have awesome games but with this delay, Gears of War being... : EvilDolemite
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    this delay ? OMGZ 13 DAYZ : armybob
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      sorry i'm on drugs : EvilDolemite
      • LOL : Ajax
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  ?Who didn't see this one coming? : Pneum0
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    The Pope. That guy has no idea what's going on with games. : ChibiJosh
    • The question is, how great a leader can he really be if he hasn't played Katamari Damacy? : crummynz
  • ^^^^ IAWTP : ezanga
• he only speculates it's optimizations needed for the 360. All we know it's delayed 13 whopping days for s... : armybob
• So I have to play PGR3 for a week first. Ok. : sixfoot6
• Didn't Mr. Newell speak of such things happening with the next gen... or rather that it's going to just g... : zakazi
• How can the game be delayed? It has no release date... other than Holiday 2005 : sekira05
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  They said that it would be available for launch last week, and now they're changing their minds? What a s... : shredder133
  • I'm sure 'they' = 'the developers actually making and testing the game' : Gauss
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  Good, I hope they take their time and polish as much as possible. : Sexpansion Pack
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    100% agreed ... dont rush it ... i want it optimized for my 360 with shiny pretties on my screen! : X Fuzion
    • Yeah - the 1gb movie of gameplay had slowdown in it :( so it would be nice if they can try and tweak that... : abrasion
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    ^^this man knows what time it is. Even if it was delayed until March which would disapoint a lot of fans ... : armybob
    • I agree. I want broccoli and Oblivion. : Degenerate
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  According to EBGames.com, the Xbox 360 version has been, as you said, delayed until 12/5, but the PC rele... : lechuck59
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    Both are scheduled for 12/5. Retailers may not have updated their lists yet, but that's the release date ... : jason bergman
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      Not that I don't believe you, but where'd you see this? : lechuck59
      • he works for a publisher, i am pretty sure he knows more then we do : jedi_27
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      Don't punish us because of xbox! =( : kingdepork
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        if anything it's the reverse of that . . . : jedi_27
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          how could it POSSIBLY be the reverse? : kill9
          • The strongarm tactics of PC-Corp! : 60days
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            it's always easier to test for a console then a PC : jedi_27
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              Test sure, but optimize no, especially when the architecture is so different. : carnivore
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                actually it should help PC game development in the long run as developers will have a head start for when... : sigpro
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                  Sure in the long-run, but not now. : carnivore
                  • would you rather they have their thumbs up their fucking butts when the time comes? : sigpro
          • He's stirring you (and us) up - quite well too. : abrasion
        • lol : eeeealmo
• maybe they will add some form of multiplayer .... co-op maybe? look I still want some form of multipla : Nation
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  Oblivion has not been delayed. The official release date for the past 5 months has been "Holidays 2005 : sonicstorm
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    They should really talk to whichever guy from Bethesda was the one walking around saying "Oh yeah, it'll ... : Vincent Grayson
    • I'd put more weight into what that guys says as opposed to what GameStop or EB says. : sonicstorm
• no matter how long they delay, the hard drive will be required for the inevitable patch : Draugluin
• Oblivion related: the armor in the new screenshot looks AWESOME! Wow...last pic on the right in the top r... : Dr Van Nostrand
• Take as long as necessary, guys. I absolutely must play this game but I have no drive to get it earlier ... : DinK
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  http://www.shacknews.com/ja.zz?id=10894122 Done and done. I don't know what effect this will have on m... : Carfaz11
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    http://www.shacknews.com/ja.zz?id=10901540 : armybob
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      haha ohhh man, hope he can get that pre-order back. My cancle it for a 2 week wait anyway? : sigpro
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        gotta admit - an X360 with NO games for 2 weeks is like horrible :( - like a new video card without a VGA... : abrasion
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          but it will have games those first 2 weeks.....just not oblivion : armybob
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            In his case - it has no games for 2 weeks. : abrasion
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              k : armybob
              • np dude. : abrasion
        • it would be weird, but it wouldn't be a deal breaker for me, i'd just use it as a replacement xbox for me... : sigpro
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      I'm conflicted now. I was really psyched for the 360 a few months ago, but various announcements have dec... : Carfaz11
      • if of any use my logitech wireless controller lasted about 6 months on 2 AAA batteries w/ no rumble used. : sigpro

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  man oh man, there is going to be a big time bruhaha over this : jason28
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    what happen : boomstickah
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      instant replay next season that's what!! : mr brown
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        Why dont they have it now? : jason28
        • the games are long enough already! : smoove
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        they already had Questec for analyzing the strike zone accuracy a few years ago, but the umpires union ha... : the archvile
        • it doesn't need to be used for balls and strikes, just stuff like that play or phantom tags, etc : derelict515
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      someone esplain pls : RikiTiki2
      • Low pitch, batter swings, strike 3. Umpire calls the strike, calls the out, the catcher never tagged the ... : CSParsons
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      bottom 9th, 2 outs, guy strikes out, but he runs to 1st base and the umpire says that the ball hit the di... : jason28
      • wtf : RikiTiki2
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        this is why good catchers throw to first if there is any ambiguity : mallrice
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          But thats the thing, there wasnt any ambiguity about it. As soon as it happend all the players started ru... : jason28
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            and the ump made his fist gesture : mr brown
            • Thats the thing that gets me the most about this. When the ump does that, it means you have an out, play ... : jason28
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    What. Now I'm pissed that I turned it off. : cajuncook
    • Dammit, I thought nothing was gonna happen since there was 2 outs :( : Xhost
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    Pisses me off that mlb.tv is blacked out :( : rosewood
    • regional coverage has to do with that i think : creep
• That was huge fucking bullshit. : CSParsons
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  Okay here's what happened: Angels struck out the batter for the third out. Catcher caught the ball a... : mr brown
  • rofl espn just showed a slo-mo replay but their big retarded text box was covering up the catcher's glove : mikecyb
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  I saw the ball bounce "up" into the glove on one of the slow mo's. Fox of course only showed that one onc... : PumpRock
  • I didn't see that on a single one, clearly Fox has an Anaheim bias : mr brown
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    I think that is it hitting the webbing of the glove. : CSParsons
    • o k who tivo'd this shit? : adev
    • yeah that could have been, i never saw it hit dirt. would have been nice if they showed it again. that b... : PumpRock
  • I saw the ball bounce up as well. You win some and you lose some. : Typo
  • there was no bounce. it was a shitty ass call. ESPN finally moved their text box off and there was no b... : sigpro
• hahaha Chicago Whitesox: This time around we're giving the bribes : sundance
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  Frankly, I think it was a bad call, but any coach in any sport will tell you that one play never dictates... : zipper76
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    sorry but a bad call on the third strike when there's two outs in the 9th inning is pretty game-changing ... : mr brown
    • Ok, so if it happens in the 3rd inning, no big deal? The fact of the matter is when you play the game, on... : zipper76
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    Srsly. Instant replay fucking sucks. : cajuncook
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      I don't get this point of view, why do people not think that having the correct call made is the most imp... : mr brown
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        because it's retarded. : mallrice
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          can someone explain why : mr brown
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            this is what happens with instant replay: instead of letting the game progress, everyone second guesses t... : mallrice
            • that's a good point; I like the use of IR in football but I didn't really think it through on how to limi... : mr brown
        • Having the correct call is retarded? Okay. : slax0r
      • I don't want my players replaced by machines; I don't want my referees replaced by machines. Technolog... : cajuncook
      • Ironically, I'm for Instant Replay in specific situations, yet it seems most baseball players and coaches... : zipper76
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      How can you have witnessed that and argue against instant reply? That umpire is an idiot, in any case. : slax0r
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        I didn't witness anything, but from the description I'm sure he didn't have a clear look at whether or no... : cajuncook
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          I'd be fine if he made his judgement. But he made a call, and then took it back. That's what irritates ... : slax0r
          • he made a call, the catcher got up and jogged away, then tossed the ball back, the runner ran all the way... : mr brown
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            We honestly don't know what he called and what he didn't....hell, the analysts can't even agree. I will s... : zipper76
            • That's because there are no consistent mechanics for calling strike-three-batter's out. Typically, you ar... : Waverider
            • So that fist pump after him calling the strike was just him being stoked about being at a baseball game? : CSParsons
      • Have you ever been a plate umpire at an elite level? If you have, you might have a better understanding a... : Waverider
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  I'm a baseball umpire and that has to be one of the toughest calls you can make from behind the plate. Th... : Waverider
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    My only problem is the umpire took back his out after he saw the batter run. That's just not cool. : slax0r
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      The thing is, the batter is technically out after the third strike. They exist in sort of a limbo where t... : Waverider
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        he did the fist pump thing which seems to be universally regarded as an "out" signal but now the ump is c... : mr brown
        • I just watched a strikeout from earlier in the same game and he called the third strike with that horizon... : CSParsons
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  The umps are being interviewed on ESPN now. : zipper76
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    haha these guys are fucking making shit up it sounds like. It's so easy to see on the replay that they f... : sigpro
    • "we're claiming that the ball hit the ground before it hit his glove. yes, that's what we're claiming" : mr brown
    • I don't think it's "easy". I think someone could see it as a trap, but I think it looks like he caught it... : zipper76