Where's the Diversity?
by Chris Remo, Aug 09, 2005 12:59pm PDTA CNN article points out that while minority groups such as blacks and Hispanics on average spend more time playing video games than whites, such minorities are still hugely underrepresented in the actual game development profession. At the same time, minority characters in video games tend to be either supporting roles or portrayed as gangsters or thugs. Amil Tomlin, a black 15-year-old gamer from Baltimore, notes that "Not everybody goes outside with bling-bling and listens to rap music all day."The article contains viewpoints from Mario Armstrong, founder of a "programming boot camp for minorities", John Saulter of the black-owned Entertainment Arts Research, and the IGDA's outspoken Jason Della Rocca.
"Games are an expressive medium. They are an art form, just like movies, theater and literature," Della Rocca said. "We're seeing, to a large extent, that the games that are being designed unconsciously include the biases, opinions and reflections of their creators." In a way, he said, stubbornness to diversify runs counter to the industry's tolerant roots. "We like to think that game design is a higher calling and that no one really cares what your skin color is or your sexual orientation. But that doesn't seem to manifest itself in terms of a more diversified workplace."
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It's okay to have the "United Negro College Fund" but let someone start the "United Caucasian College Fund" and you'd have a damn riot up in here.
I just dont get it.
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what if we didn't have japanese developers for example? would we have katamari and all those other insanely weird games?
more cultural influence among developers is a good thing imo.
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So what if statistics show that certain races or sexes are underrepresented? Statistics don't represent truth. I'm sure there are statistics to show a lack of men in professional dance... or maybe a lack of male nurses. Is this all the evidence we need to conclude that someone must be "keeping them out?"
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When a white dude commits a crime... It's wrong to have white people always the protagonist! When a minority dude commits a crime... It's wrong because that's a stereotype.
When the hero is a guy with big muscles and the male ideal of power... It's wrong because women are under-represented. When the hero is a woman with big breasts and the female ideal of sexual prowess... It's wrong because that's a stereotype.
WHO THE HELL want's to play a video game about ordinary people doing ordinary things (Sims aside)? (or for that matter, who wants a 250lb muscle woman or a man with DD-breasts as the hero?) Why I play these games:
I want to be the guy with muscles who saves the girl FOR A CHANGE.
I want to be a thug, black OR white, who says, "fuck authority" FOR A CHANGE.
I want to be somebody I'm not and do something I don't/won't/can't, FOR A CHANGE.
There's only three kinds of people it's legal to discriminate against in America. SMOKERS, WHITE MALES, and the OVERWEIGHT. Anyone else is a victim of the above 3 -or so the beautiful people on FOX News let me know.
This makes me puke.
I'm so sick of this "diversification" crap I want to punch someone in the... well, everything. If more black, hispanic, etc., people wanted to be in game development they would be! No one is "keeping them down" or anything like that... there's no racism here. There's no culturalism here. Its about individuals making choices about their own lives. Where you are in this world is a direct result of the decisions you have made up to this point (best Neal Boortz quote ever).
Ugh... someone get me off this planet before I asplode....
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Does anyone know of any openly homosexual game developers or characters in games?
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madden doesnt count.
"Not everybody goes outside with bling-bling and listens to rap music all day."
Not everybody goes outside to save the world and rescue a princess all day, either, so what exactly do they think white people are doing in reality? It's certainly nothing like what they do in games.
There's only one race/culture that gets represented far differently than the playerbase would suggest and that's Asian culture, and it probably has something to do with every game that isn't from the EA/Activision/Atari trio coming from Japan.
The programming side, I can't speak as well for, except to say that it's a middling profession without much job security. That doesn't attract many people as it is.
This is like complaining that there isn't enough black people playing hockey. If they want to, they will.
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thats right A WHITE MAN
if the games industry was multicultural to begin with we would never have these problems
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The fact of the matter is that due to whatever social/cultural factors keep many minorities from seeking education on their own, there is a smaller segment of the minority population eligible for these positions. This isn't some game industry exclusive trend, it's a trend across all high tech sectors.
It isn't the game industry's responsibility to seek out and train the next wave of developers any more than it is for the NBA to seek out the next generation of superstars. The next wave of developers will come to us, just as talented athletes will be drawn to professional sports. Offering special treatment to minorities only perpetuates prejudicial treatment and does nothing to solve the problem at hand, which is figuring out what exactly causes the education gap between a large portion of minorities and the rest of the country.
Also, ask yourself why there is no discussion of other minorities and the gaming industry, such as Asians or Indians. Because it's not politically popular... In fact, you rarely hear anything about how they are even minorities, because they spend less time separating themselves, and more time integrating themselves into the rest of society.
Racism is seeing differences as bad/wrong instead of just weird/not yours. It's saying that an African-American/Asain woman is ugly instead of saying that you just don't find them attractive.
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also, i only see nice looking models on maxim so they must be discriminting the fatties!
What I don't understand is this misguided desire for diversity in the programming workforce. Programming is a technical discipline, and as such programmers should be hired on the basis of merit. If the best qualified candidate for your company's open engine coding position is a white male, you should hire him, even if everyone else on the team is a white male too! If the best qualified happens to be someone other than the white male hire that person instead. But you absolutely don't want to hire the not-quite-as-good black woman just because you need to 'balance' the racial profile of your workforce. It will only cause your company to end up with lower quality work, your team to end up with low morale, and everyone to end up hating and resenting the minority you hired only because they were a minority.
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lowly gameplay scripter? who do you think makes your awesomely programmed game FUN and EXCITING?
- annoyed gameplay scripter :P
Many children aged 8 years through 12 play video games, but in our shocking expose we find that few of them are actually represented in the game development industry!
Okay, so it's slightly different...
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<learned from experience>
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Seems like everybody's a minority nowadays unless you're a white male. Everybody's a fucking victim.
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Next they'll be complaining that game heroes are all white males--supplanting the complaint that all game females are sex objects.
There's just no pleasing anyone.
"Not everybody goes outside with bling-bling and listens to rap music all day."
You're right, but playing a game where we watch someone else play a game just isn't as much fun...
I kid, I kid... *grin*
There is absolutely no racial or gender bias within the games industry. The people who makes games are by and large an extremely liberal group of folks in my experience. If there's a lack of any particular race/gender combo, it's because the resumes just aren't showing up. When they do, they'll get hired.
And btw, this concept does not pertain to ALL companies anyway. Sure, if you check out developers based in the midwest or somethnig, yeah, that's gonna be all white guys. Look around, that's where you are! However, most west coast devs are currently already pretty diverse.
This article is just more outdated anti-game poo.
The article pisses me off because it says "CJ," as he's known by his pals, is black -- and to some in the video game industry, that's a problem. and then follows it right up with A growing number of people in the booming industry believe there should be more black and Hispanic heroes and heroines instead of hoods and hoodlums.
Now lets think, before CJ, who was the last hero in the GTA series? Oh ya, it was a WHITE GUY. There were a ton of stereotypes in Vice City, but no one seemed to care then. It's just when it happens to minorities that people speak up.
This artile is pretty much just a fluff piece. I'm glad that guy is trying to get minorities into making games, but if you look at programming in general, there aren't a lot of minorities in that either. It's not just related to gaming.
Isn't it true that developers make games they want to play?
I don't have any hard data on this, but I would bet 80% of the developers making games are white males. Making games that appeal to... white males.
Any info anyone to back that up?
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Many of the problems with videogames are endemic in media as a whole, especially the teen-oriented television that EA and other "mass-market" studios are trying to capitalize on. More distinguished games such as Half-Life 2 and Psychonauts don't have anywhere near the same diversity issues.
I don't want to say "ahh the token asian, woman, hispanic and black guy!" I want the developers to do what they want, it really doesn't matter.
To want more diversity, you'll just end up with more stereotypes in the end if you ask me.
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