New Halo Shots

LETS SEE WHAT ITS LIKE FIRST...LOOKS TO ME LIKE ITS GONNA RULE..

How about this (I haven\'t read all the posts)-

Halo is 3rd person by default, but can be played in 1st person. Like Q3 is 1st person by default but can be played in 3rd person.

First good point I\'ve made in a while, and it\'s taken 2 days to get it out.

Boogieman

Yeah that is all I need

To have my camera hitched on a wall somewhere while someone is ripping me apart with a turret mounted machine gun on a jeep.

If there is a lot of person based combat, I think excluding a first person view would be a major mistake. Personally I find third person view hasn\'t offered the accuracy or personal control that I have with a first person view. Position, direction and aiming are just easier, because they all stem from the same vantage point. In first person, where your reticle is aimed is where you are facing, the center of any circle strafing, and the target of all your weapons. Also turning seems much faster, since you don\'t have to rotate your camera around a point 20 feet infront of you.

That being said, sometimes the extra fov from third person can save a lot of looking around. I guess it depends on wether Halo is more an FPS or more an RTS. Hopefully they will provide the option to play in either third or first person. Either way I think I will own a copy 8).

Hey, you know what was a really kick ass 3rd person game?

(I\'m going to get a lot of shit for this, but oh well)

MARIO 64! Granted this was a puzzle game, but I think it does prove a point, you CAN make good 3rd person games if you try.

And until the demo comes out everyone should shut the fuck up.

Actually, you know what\'s really bugging me? Most games are third person, but most games aren\'t the genre we\'re talking about. Somebody needs to invent a better term for these \"floating camera 3D action\" type games.

Didn\'t you guys read any of the halo interviews, they\'re spending some serious time on design and they said that they\'re going to make 3rd person cool and revolutionary and stuff.

Different perspective means a new way of looking at the familiar.
A different concept means looking at somthing familiar and making
it something new......

Create and innovate...... or whither on the vine with the bad grapes.

damn, when i get drunk, i tend to rhryme, or at least alliterate ;)~

ref post #25 and ref #1.....

everyone here is scared of learning new perspectives and concepts...

Halo, im just speculating, will not be that far from FPS controls, but
just a little extra learning...... and very adjustable.... and very cool..

\'bout time the genre\' busted out again! gettin\' a little stale if ya ask me..

muhahahahahaha

The pointless debate right now (at least how i see it) is that whether the selection of 3rd person mode for Halo will turn to be a mistake or not.

Pointless to be sure. I hate myself for not keeping my trap shut during these kinds of threads, but dammit, its the shack and Im apparently powerless to resist.

To summarize my beef is with people who immediately write the game off due to:

a) it not being or playing like a fps when it was never intended to be fps (and I understand and can accept your point midshift - thats cool then)

b) poor control in previous 3rd person games (action or otherwise) means that Halo\'s controls are going to suck by default. Never mind that we havent seen/tried them out, thats irrelevant... =P

Hey, Halo might suck - no problem (though I\'ll be the first to admit I\'d be pretty disappointed). But to write it off at this point, to even unequivicolly say it wont be as good as it *could* be, for the above reasons, well thats just plain dumb.

All I know is a bunch of mofo\'s are bad mouthin\' a game that isnt out
yet based on speculation of ppl that dont know sh*t.

Play games with an open mind and a willingness to learn when it comes
out.

Otherwise, everyone should just go back to playing single player pong.

If its good, it will succeed. If its bad, it will fail.

HALO FUCKING SUCKS SHIT!

HALO SUCKS!

3rd person sucks

TF2 and Tribes2 will FUCKING DESTROY that piece of shit Halo.

Graphics don\'t make a game... all this hype is really pissing me off.

And even the graphics look like shit, I have no idea what everyone is so crazy about... even the graphics look like a cross between Messiah and Tribes. So pathetic.

Halo sucks...

#48
Huh ? No one said that..
What \"I\" said was that i havent found ANY 3rd person games that had controls as nice and fluid as a typical FPS. Mech3 has been the only exception, but that\'s slow paced, and i really really doubt that Halo is going to be like that. The pointless debate right now (at least how i see it) is that whether the selection of 3rd person mode for Halo will turn to be a mistake or not.

Unlike you some people won\'t be glazed over by the graphics and proclaim Halo to be the second coming, even if it has controls as bad as Drakan.

Thats a better one, eh ? Or is it ? ;)

Johnny, put it this way - we\'re just disappointed that the Halo engine, which looks like it could be a fantastic FPS engine is being stuck with a third person game.

#47
Blah, damn you.
First you post #42 with a \"w3rd\" to the idiots who think that anyone who doesnt like current 3rd person controls is bound to be an fps junkie. Then you do an about turn and make fun of them ? Whats the deal ?

Whoooooosh!

<sound of point going completely over skids head>

#44
Starcraft wasn\'t smooth and fluid ? Thats news to me.

You\'re making some astounding revalations today aren\'t you. Heretic2 was Hexen2 in 3rd person, Starcraft was jerky and choppy. Whatever will you come up with next ? Please do continue with your higly entertaining tirade of baseless generalizations. I\'ll check back later for your next pearl of wisdom.

Did that sarcasm come across any better?

Nothing pisses me of quicker than people who whine and mewl about a game that isnt a fps shooter not playing like a fps shooter.

Yeah, Starcraft, that was an ass game. Wasnt smooth and fluid like Quake. And shit, you know, that Diablo *could* have been a cool game if only there was a first person perspective. Maybe in the sequel....

#40
Your sarcasm is coming off as stupid. Don\'t stupidly assume that no one here hasn\'t played more than one 3rd person games. I\'ve played a LOT, and there haven\'t been any that felt smooth or fluid.

#39,40

W3rd brothers.

Unfortunately, not too many of the chimps are gonna get what you\'re saying. Ah well, not our worries....

28 -- If by \"right\" you mean \"like an FPS,\" that\'s probably true. Not all games are or should be FPS games, and a lot of Heretic 2\'s environments, controls, and weapons would\'ve needed to be different for first-person to work decently. It\'s easy to say \"They should add pole vaulting to an FPS!\" but making that actually work and make sense as something different from a jump just doesn\'t seem too plausible.

Games that aren\'t first-person shooters shouldn\'t be judged like one, whether it\'s an RTS, scrolling platformer, or something with more similarities like these chase camera action/adventure games.

3 -- That\'s the art you\'re looking at man, don\'t confuse the two.

Heretic2 would have been amazing in 1st person, with solid controls, 1st person jump attacks, backflips and all.

Yeah it was called Hexen2. =P

I have 100% complete faith that Bungie will put out a kickass, insanely fun game. Its a given, just like the sun rising in the east.