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  Ice buckets? : tomservo
  • Gotta love electircal ice buckets! : felicia
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    stick a bunch of salt in to cool the beer down faster. : ventro
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      salt is not cold you idiot!!! : gegtik
      • oh shit i forgot sry : ventro
• yeah but ice buckets can get messy after a few hours.. : phatl
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  Question is, who the hell would have beer that isn't cold? It's supposed to be stored at around 40-45F fo... : ovrlrd
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    Back in the wild west before the advent of refrigeration techniques, everyone drank their beer warm, "Eur... : Experiment IV
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      Never heard of an icebox? : trove
      • That, my friend, was the first refrigeration technique! : Experiment IV
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    why frosted glass bad? : alcueso
    • Why you throw ice chip? : PoopStewart
    • I think he broke them in the freezer? : Lunatic Angelic
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      Freezing beer glasses is just wrong! Okay lets think here, beer is meant to be served at around 40-45F... : ovrlrd
      • Oh shit - I must totally stop doing this then. My bud will be ruined. : surround
      • Oh and some beers (depending on how low the ABV) might be best served at 35-40F even. But like I said, it... : ovrlrd
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        bah beer tastes like piss anyway : dodob
        • OH NO YOU DIDNT : gegtik
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          Only people who haven't tasted enough good beer really ever say that. If that makes any sense. Kind of... : ovrlrd
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            what's the point? if i taste something for the first time and it is disgusting, why would i drink it over... : lacker
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              I would submit that gaining a greater range of stimuli which you enjoy or appreciate is a self-explanator... : gegtik
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                but there are so many options. dont like beer? grab some chocolate milk or some orange juice or some soft... : lacker
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                  yeah but check this out: I can enjoy chocolate milk, orange juice, soft drinks, OR beer so i win!! (at... : gegtik
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                    That's equivalent to saying HAY GUYS I HAVE AN ACQUIRED TASTE FOR URINE. THAT MEANS I HAVE A FULLER R... : cam3lt0sis
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                      yeah it is whats your point : gegtik
                      • That was my point. I guess there was no resistance to it, which I expected there to be. I feel confus... : cam3lt0sis
            • The point is you try it every now and then, stuff people recommend. You might gain an appreciation to the... : ovrlrd
            • You'll like this giant dildo in your ass... once we getcha' a little stretched out first. : octosloth
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            While I don't drink any alcohol at all, I really appreciate people who have the right respect and knowled... : haiku
            • I like to put condensed milk in my orange pekoe ;_; : gegtik
            • Hahaha yeah that is exactly it. I guess some people just don't know how to appreciate some stuff. It's pr... : ovrlrd
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              Maybe they enjoy it that way. God forbid. : cam3lt0sis
              • cameltosis you're so open-minded, objective, urbane, culturally sophisticated, and refined. It's great to... : haiku
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              So what tea tips do you have, specifically on the heating of water and correct way todo it? I love chai t... : askedrelic
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                Well, Chai is an indian tea method which is essentially black tea (known as red to the chinese) with sele... : haiku
                • haiku tell me more about tea please (not sarcastic) : gegtik
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              ha! the only tea I drink without milk & sugar is green ;) I may be a heathen in your world, but in my wor... : ChowYunCat
              • Yes, it's pretty much reprehensible what the english did to Tea. England was so fuck you to China over th... : haiku
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          Piss tastes good. : iamgoat
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            #497, Yes it does : R Kelly (#515) « : Prozium
            • thanks...i just spit soda all over my desk : ColoradoCNC
      • So instead of the freezer, glasses should be kept in the fridge so they keep the beer cool, and not freez... : Magus
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    "Frosted glasses" and "bad" may only be used in the same sentence if "bad" is followed by "ass". Why i... : fishbone
    • i think he's saying it keeps the beer too cold, it'll be more numbing than flavorful : wetard
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    Put salt in the ice, according to mythbusters. : yakz
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      That just speeds up the melting, i.e. the endothermic reaction. : Lunatic Angelic
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        and it keeps the water at a below freezing temperature : Prozium
        • And increases the surface area in contact with the can since it's a liquid instead of chunks of solid. : Carnivac
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        Right, and thusly speeds up the rate at which it chils the water, and thusly you get colder beer faster. : mojoald
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          this is scientifically bullshit!!! : gegtik
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            They were able to cool a 6-pack to 37° in 5 minutes with a cooler filled with ice, water and salt... : malevolence
            • i meant the part about chilling the water 'faster' i dont think thats the reason buddy!! : gegtik
      • works for ice cream : creep
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    English pubs store their in-house bitters and milds at room temperature, and that's said to be some good ... : Ninja Techno
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      Yeah, although supposed "cellar" temperatures which they store it at is only ideal for beers with higher ... : ovrlrd
      • Oop, lagering, right. My passion for stout and porter sometimes causes me to forget that whole other side... : Ninja Techno
    • cold temperatures are required to make american beer palatable (discounting microbrews of course) : gegtik
  • Back in my day we just drank the stuff... : octosloth

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  Killed by bacteria. The ending says it directly. It's identical to the ending in the book. : bostrov
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    Ok, that makes sense, but can you explain the bloody people plants too please. : tcxsnoop
    • I read the book when I was a kid, so my memory is a bit off on this - I don't remember the plants from th : bostrov
    • tcx is right although my understanding also is that they're used for terraforming. They kill off all the : [fry]
• They had no immunities to bacteria. Hence the comment "what took us a billion deaths to conquor" or whate : [fry]
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  just got back. that was like the best fucking movie i've seen in a long time. Like what a rollercoaster o : mankeroo
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    The sounds were so fucking awesome. The call the tripods made was really scary. And the sounds when they : [fry]
    • totally agreed...im an immersiveness junkie. I need to be completely immersed in virtual experiences...ga... : mankeroo
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      Yes, the audio and the score made this film. Sound design at it's best. : Halen
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        I actually didn't care much for the score. I felt it got in the way more than once. John Williams is just... : Ratsofatsorat
        • I didn't even really notice it being in my face or anything. It felt (as I was watching) layered into the... : Halen
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  I thought Signs was better. : c0bra
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    omg, signs? that was complete garbage. And critics can eat it, War of the Worlds was awsome. : gibolas1234
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      A lot of critics are raving about WoW. : Ratsofatsorat
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        correct, http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/war_of_the_worlds/ please dont call it WoW otherwise this will : Crimson
        • Yeah, that was a slip. Whoops. : Ratsofatsorat
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  How could you not get it? Morgan spelled it out for you at the end... : Blucklesworth
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    Yeah, he da man. Funny to hear him and see Andy DuFresne just after watching Shawshank Redemption again a... : crummynz
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      And Robbins was even trying to build a tunnel!!! : Halen
      • No babes though :( : crummynz
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  i just saw this tonight and thought it was pretty good. earlier i read part of this post: http://www.sh : khaosman
  • hehe I played back some parts of HL2 after the movie : ArtilleryMarker
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  I haven't seen the movie yet, but instead of bigass strider-like mechs buried underground waiting for a l : dodob
  • Sucks for the advanced race from another planet that spent MILLIONS of years as they say studying and wai... : Hello Kitty
• The thing about the birds was that the shields were down that's all. : red2lucas
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  I really liked it. I felt the second half slowed down some, not that it was bad... it just didn't feel as : Rampancy
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    good points. one thing i liked about the movie is it showed mankind both at its worst (the mob fighting : smax
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      I liked the anus he gets sucked into. It would seem he's trying to come out, only metaphorically on-scree... : Hello Kitty
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        my problem with that scene was the anus was really bad cg. stuff like that tends to break me out of the : smax
        • I'm sorry, but I have no idea how to identify a giant CG-anus from a giant real-life anus, perhaps you co : TimeDoctor
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  I thought that was lame..i mean if the aliens have spent millenia studying us, atleast get some vaccinati : r3ckless
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    You know the aliens could have thought they had the whole virus thing down, but didn't get it right. Tha : Hiro
    • zees eez boolsheet! : r3ckless
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  If they had buried the machines millions of years ago, why didn't they take the planet then? : tree8
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    they needed the humans as fertilizer to harvest their crops : stgdz
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      I thought that might be the case, but they were vaporizing the majority of them. There was plenty of ani : tree8
      • ya gotta poke the bee hive to get them all out. : stgdz

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  It's certainly not impossible. Student designed MIPS and subset-PowerPC processors have been much slower ... : bostrov
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    yeah, but really, student designed vs IBM you'd think IBM would have an engineering edge, rite? : Toraz Chryx
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      It depends on the design goals. The point is just because it's a powerPC implementation says nothing at a... : bostrov
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        if their design goal isn't more cowbell then.. well, I just don't wanna know. : Toraz Chryx
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          It's probably enough cowbell given x amount of cash. : bostrov
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            ... go sit in the corner of shame. NOW! there is NEVER enough cowbell. : Toraz Chryx
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              If you don't want to end up with a $25,000 xbox, there is. : bostrov
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                why not, we already have a 25,000 pound Xbox. : Toraz Chryx
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                  ololololo : moshman
                  • ino, that post deserved more love :( : Toraz Chryx
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  perhaps you didn't read the Anandtech article ?? : rasputinreborn
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    Actually I didn't read it no, too many people de-bunked it as pointless because they don't understand the... : abrasion
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      well wait.. when you're talking about "times faster" what exactly are you talking about? cuz its really o... : jaga
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        Good question - I guess "general performance" IPC? - Toraz knows what I mean. I'm sure polygons can't ... : abrasion
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          its like you're talking about racecars and you heard someone say 6 cylinder engine and you're thinking ab... : jaga
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            I know the basics - I supose anandtech need to define exactly what they man by only 2x performance. : abrasion
            • sounds like someone's hype-o-thalamus is experiencing letdownitis :) : rasputinreborn
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              sounds a bit like someone's hype-o-thalamus is experiencing letdownitis :) : rasputinreborn
              • Kinda :) but it's still fun to learn. For example - I may not be disapointed - I might find a PS2 for... : abrasion
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      there's a lot more to processor performance than cache and frequency... that's the point here : rasputinreborn
      • Yeah mhz / cache doesn't mean everything I realise that - also 32 / 64bit won't always make a difference ... : abrasion
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  It made me go O_o too I was expecting per-thread performance per clock to be around 70% of a PowerPc 7... : Toraz Chryx
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    Well I trust your opinion to be honest - so you beleive it - they presented facts or what? That sounds... : abrasion
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      32bit vs 64bit is of absolutely no relevance. the reason you think 64bit makes a positive performance ... : Toraz Chryx
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        Damn - I was hanging out at slashdot and I saw some posts from proper PS2 developers - I would love to ch... : abrasion
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          um why do you care? the systems are gonna be about the same its whoever gets the better titles that's gon... : jaga
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            Because I'm interested and would love to know more on the technical side. Games aren't all that intere... : abrasion
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              oh I see. Why don't you start with something simple like a transistor.. oh and protip? that whole moo... : jaga
              • yes, another smartass comment from jaga - note the look of surprise on my face.... you bore me. : abrasion
              • at least you aren't condescending : fishbone
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                remind me never to answer a question for you : moshman
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                  oh come on. He's asking speed questions based on what someone said about something that's a tiny part of ... : jaga
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                    it just sounded awfully insulting :) : moshman
                    • It was meant to be, check his post history - he likes trying to hang shit on me - it makes his 2" interne... : abrasion
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          I think I saw the same thread, it was very interesting. http://hardware.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1... : jcupitt
          • hey it did, scroll down to see ps2 devs grumbling about anad : jcupitt
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            Yes that's the one - where do these types hang out? : abrasion
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              I'm trying to not be insulting. I don't think that they hang out together in any specific place. I don't ... : jaga
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                There used to be a web site where game developers posted a heap - I can't recall the name of it - very di... : abrasion
                • like gamasutra? often you can get general discussion of game things but you won't get very specific de... : jaga
            • At your mom's house, if you know what i mean : batkiwi
            • try www.realworldtech.com : Toraz Chryx
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        I figure you're probably one of the better people to ask this, so here goes. The issues that were asso... : Judicus
        • pretty much, the PPE was intended as a flow controller in addition to being the general purpose muscle. : Toraz Chryx
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          AFAIU the SPEs are useless if the calculation is needed at a certain speed and it is too slow to have the... : jaga
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            that makes sense, there will be a latency hit in moving a chunk of data to the SPE and then having the SP... : Toraz Chryx
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              right.. I think the idea is that ppl are saying that a lot of game code that people are trying out dont u... : jaga
              • It's the same thing with the vector hardware in the PS2, although it should be relatively easy to get the... : Toraz Chryx
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            Well, the issue described was that if the SPEs made a data request, it would take far too long for the sy... : Judicus
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              I think that is pretty much correct, and also why it lends itself so well to graphics and physics process... : moshman
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                mmm.. physics... mmm... : Toraz Chryx
                • at least games will look nice and feel right olo : moshman
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                How useful is branch prediction in games though? Most of what happens is unpredicatble due to either use... : Judicus
                • I think physics need good prediction as well. The lack of Out of Order Processing hurts performance as d : chazums
• I think it is more about getting the power out of the design. Look at how long it has taken to really sq... : kaibosh

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  How the hell whould we know? She's your wife. Sounds like you don't trust her. : RatBastard
  • trust her? he's HOPING she's more than sleeping in the guest room : jaga
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  If you weren't recently married I'd say go for it, but I doubt she's that bored already to mean what you : Lunatic Angelic
  • *exactly* :) : sixfoot6
  • yeah, but they dated for years man! keep hope alive! : edgewise
• dude, THREESOME! : nyranger66
• Your wife is pure evil. : sanchez
• Oh man. : Rampancy
• I would have been all, ";). Ok." : lightly inclined
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  Whatever happens, you better have the camera ready you son of a bitch. : filtersweep
  • god. damn. right. : epit
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  I'm getting in on the ground floor on this thread : redfive
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    Nice going, Dr.Reallyslow. : ventro
    • but it said 0 : redfive
• Call in sick tomorrow for work, say there's a leak in the ceiling and pour water all over the second bedr... : forgottenzero
• Just when its getting really hot, one of them is going to have a drunk vomit on your cock. BE PREPARED. S... : Rauol Duke
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  Nail door to 2nd bedroom shut, and throw couch out window. : Stoned Gargoyle
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    (light couch on fire first plz) : haiku
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      I just realized I don't even know what I am replying to, in terms of subject of the root post. I just saw... : haiku
      • Oh score, three-way : haiku
      • Still, not a bad idea. : crummynz
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        never be ashamed of posting before thinking. never : gegtik
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          you certainly aren't : jaga
          • this place certainly would be a lot slower and less entertaining if people were : khaosman
          • I suppose you think that's a burn you're posting : gegtik
    • FUCK YO COUCH : khaosman
• Yeah, unless your wife's a whore. : Hello Kitty
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  What is that, a test? Did you pass or fail? : Vantage
  • we'll find out tomorrow! : edgewise
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  if this post goes the way of ColoradoCNC's lesbo webcam adventures post, I'm going to be sad :( : Bantis
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    HAHAHAHAHA, I was thinking the same thing! : Phreakin
    • /me prepares to be disappointed in the morning :P : Bantis
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    I ended up getting some that night, so at least it went well for me >:) : ColoradoCNC
    • to clarify: in rl, not over the cam. now if only i could have gotten her friend to join as well :( : ColoradoCNC
• How much hints do you need? Stay awake. Ring the wife on her mobile and playfully suggest that you wer... : [7]kami
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  I'd say she originally meant just to sleep in the second bedroom and she was confused that you didn't fig... : timmie
  • Yeah she probably ran it through her guy filter after she said it and decided to clarify what she actuall... : Karnov
• After 5 yrs together you know it wasn't what it initally seemed! : Ratalon

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• 'Here's a tip! You shoulda saved more for your retirement!' : drucifer
• did you ask her if she was paid a salary? : lacker
• you'll be old one day... unless the bag lady kills with a plastic bag first. : phatl
• tipping at a grocery store? - fuck off. the cashiers job is to put shit in the bag, you put the bag in... : abrasion
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  FUCK tip jars. I can't believe how fucking fast that plague has spread across the world. I remember not... : Kiai
  • totally agreed- australia was essentially tip free 10 years ago. : abrasion
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    Fuck tips in general. I dont get a tip when I do my job so why should I tip somebody for DOING THEIR JOB? : thencrow
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      Because they get paid fuck all. : spdon
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        Then find a better fucking job. : thencrow
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          people should relax.. its just a more flexible method of compensating people for their work. If anything... : rasputinreborn
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            Now that you mention it the anti-tip ppl are passive-aggressive faggots : gegtik
            • I tip when some sort of service has been preformed for me i.e. shuttling food and drinks to me all night,... : octosloth
• asking for a tip is an insult to the customer. : BongSlayerB
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  I cannot fulfill your tip prescription due to moral reasons. Seriously, companies just pass the burden... : Experiment IV
  • IAWTP. Very much. Paying your employees is part of the cost of making your product, so pass that cost a... : Zero|DPX
  • They should include tips in a service charge or just stop exploiting their workers :( : spdon
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  I never tip. If you have such a shitty job that you have to make it up in tips, get another damn job. : Lynn Minmei
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    What if there are no other jobs you can find? Should they starve? : spdon
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      no, but they should raise the minimum wage. Why should individuals suppliment substandard wages? : flibble2k
      • if you raise the minimum wage, you drive up inflation and distort the labor market, possibly also causing... : rasputinreborn
  • Personally, I like the tip system for resturaunts. It helps ensure that the good wait staff are rewarded... : octosloth
  • That'll teach em......... : tree8
• Only answer "Sucks to be you" *walks off* : mojoald
• well, most people who get tips like waiters usually make like $2/hour or something stupid. they do make ... : kch
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  The South one or the one near Yadkin rd? : SKI242
  • Cause I might just buy some stuff there just to have them bag it and bring it to my car...and tell them "... : SKI242
• *high five* i know what a commisary is, god bless the military! : askedrelic
• When people ask me to tip them I'm like, "Hey, lady, if I was going to tip you how come I'm coming toward... : [fry]
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  authorotative insight: I used to work as a bagger at the Hueneme Naval Base Commisary. Indeed, they are... : rasputinreborn
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    lol @ navy slave : filtersweep
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      goddamn you filter : rasputinreborn
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        Don't make me get the whip. : filtersweep
        • jesu, you ride that F5 button like yer mom rides me : rasputinreborn
  • thats what servo is gonna be doing : sexninja!!!!
  • yeah but you guys were paid in mansex, am i rite? : Magus
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    So, honest question, why does anyone do or take this job? : Schnapple
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      Flexible hours; show up if you wanna work. If not, don't worry about it. Others will be there in the br : rasputinreborn
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        Line 3 is another thing I hate about the military. There are virtually no single women in and around b... : Magus
        • just fuck for fun, what's the fun in being attached and then having to be deployed anyway? : rasputinreborn
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    Should we be making them fill out a W-9 and report them to the IRS when we tip them then? Are they techni... : bostrov
    • who knows how it works technically, or even if it acknowledged at all. Its an anomaly for sure... : rasputinreborn
• That's the only part of commissaries I don't like. Tipping (even in restaraunts) has always seemed weird... : omnova
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  When I worked retail I was often offered tips from my customers. I wasn't allowed to take them. :( : n0v4
  • I've seen that rule posted at our local grocery store but what I wonder is how will they find out you too... : freshyk
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  "I don't tip because society says I have to. All right, if someone deserves a tip, if they really put for... : freshyk
  • yep, asking for a tip is a good way to piss off the tipper. : rasputinreborn
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  sounds like trying to ride the waitresses-live-on-tips wave to me. : dodob
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    http://www.shacknews.com/ja.zz?id=10334207 : rasputinreborn
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      So is bagger almost like a volunteer job? Do they get employer benefits? Who pays them? Why can't they af... : dodob
      • no bennies, just cold hard (tax free) cash. : rasputinreborn
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    Are you implying waiters and waitresses don't live on tips, because if so you've obviously never waited t... : ColoradoCNC
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      no it doesnt sound like he said that at all : gegtik
      • Thats why I was trying to clarify : ColoradoCNC
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  oh...I didn't know you're supposed to tip the guys that help with bags :( Not that I really let them tak... : ChowYunCat
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    i didn't know you were supposed to tip grocery store baggers. : cpt_gloval
    • !! http://www.shacknews.com/ja.zz?id=10334383 : rasputinreborn
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    You're not. Please don't start. : Magus
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      In regular grocery stores? I'd say a tip is cool if they're helping you outside, but otherwise I agree, ... : rasputinreborn
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        Most places in this area ask the customers not to tip; supposedly even taking the groceries out to their ... : Magus
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          I wonder why a no tipping rule is even desirable for the employer... perhaps to avoid tax hassles..? : rasputinreborn
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            I'd prefer to go to a store where they didn't take tips to avoid guilt. I never went to the commissary o... : tree8
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              I find it pleasurable to give people a nice tip if they deserve it... and hell, if they annoy me I have n : rasputinreborn
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                Everyone in and around Bragg seems to hate the military. : Magus
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                  ok.... wait what? : rasputinreborn
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                    Sorry that was a bit of a stretch. In and out of uniform (I'm easily identifiable because of my godawful ... : Magus
                    • The entire country relies on the entire rest of the country to exist. The army is useless without the eco... : bostrov
          • don't think it is much trouble to add the tips to taxes. probably so people don't feel uncomfortable abo... : kch
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            They might also not want baggers trying to take every little thing out to people's cars trying to get tip... : DinK
            • I don't think that's it; other jobs where you are expressly supposed to help out the customer have the sa... : rasputinreborn
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  What wigs me out is the automatic 20% tip for parties over xx of people. Yeah, I can understand it would : octosloth
  • it's bullshit because you don't get extra waiters for your table (for tghe most part) : lacker
  • Most places make there waiter/waiteress tip out to the kitchen at the end of the night. Usually about 2%... : Haku-Jin
  • Don't pay the tip - it's bullshit. : abrasion
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    Having gotten a $1 tip on a party of 15 people before after me and one of the girls I worked with busted ... : ColoradoCNC
    • Wow, I hope those 15 people burn in hell, they probably had a good laugh about that too. I can underst... : octosloth
    • I'd agree if I thought the phrase "automatic gratuity" made sense. : vigilante
  • this happened at our school trip to chicago, at the hotel restaurant (the essex inn) , there were 8 peopl... : jcutner
  • You should of spoken to the manager. And basically said that you felt that percentage of tip was to high... : Crimsonbeak
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  tipping is for suckers. what are the reasons for tipping exactly? ensures good service? fuck you pal... : mista mista
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    nice naive rant Dennis Miller Jr. http://www.shacknews.com/ja.zz?id=10334312 : rasputinreborn
    • the only level of service I need is for someone to get my order, bring me the food, and make sure I pay f... : mista mista
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    It's built into the system maaaan, that's the only reason. It is expected that we tip waitstaff, becau : DinK
    • Where I am from waiters get paid minimum wage. So fuck them they dont need the extra money. : thencrow
    • systems change all the time. If everyone stopped tipping the system would change extremely fast : mista mista
    • Sheetz FTW!!!!! Did you hear Sheetz is appealing to the state to sell beer since they sell so much foo... : Squirrely
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    Not tipping is for suckers. I can get a table anytime at at least two of my favorite places because the ... : octosloth
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      plus, hey newsflash! its fun to do nice things for people and make them feel good instead of making them... : rasputinreborn
      • NO! They are worthless non-persons whos degredation is my only pleasure in life! Fucking losers, get : octosloth
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        damn I didn't know people validated themselves with tips. I guess next time I'll leave genjuro as a tip. : mista mista
        • Okay mr pink go on with ur bad self u rebel : rasputinreborn
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      I can get free stuff from places without tipping because they know me. tipping may or may not get you fre... : mista mista
      • But I always tip well if it's a place I plan on returning too, at least the first few times. After a whi... : octosloth
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    Wait, are you saying that if the restaurant doesn't include gratuity in your bill, you leave nothing? : Syixxs
    • http://www.shacknews.com/ja.zz?id=10335065 : octosloth
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      As I said I would be glad to pay extra for the meal with no complaints if they eliminated tips. There are... : mista mista
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        I'm not challenging you here, but what service jobs don't expect tipping, I must be drawing a blank be : octosloth
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          http://www.socialservice.com/search_result.cfm?RequestTimeout=500 take your pick. service jobs aren't ... : mista mista
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            ha ha. I usually tip our social worker 20%. 25% if she ignores those cigarette burns on jimmy's legs. ... : octosloth
            • direct: tour guides, flight attendent, therapist, any kind of teacher, janitor, nurses, doctors, lawyers... : mista mista
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    speaking as someone who has waited tables: fuck off : ColoradoCNC
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      speaking as someone who has eaten at resaurants: fuck off : Ebu
      • People think you are a cheap curmudgeon. And though you will respond with "I don't care" I think you sho... : rasputinreborn
• As someone who grew up on an AFB and has used the commissary for years and years the baggers never really... : sabadog
• Give her some gum next time *HOME ALONE 2'D* : YamatoTwinkie
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  Here's a little tip for you guys that say "Fuck tipping" or "Get a better job". Do not EVER fuck with som... : Phreakin
  • iawtp I know a waitress who makes 2.50 an hour in New York City. Cost of living here, as you can proba... : Chunks
  • Yeah, and if the tips were reasonable amounts, I wouldn't have a problem with this. I never had problems ... : bostrov
  • more importantly tell the waiter/chef to get fucked AFTER you get your food, and ALSO IMPORTANT never go ... : gegtik
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    how about they give you good service so that they don't LOSE THEIR JOB. Why don't we institute tips for e... : mista mista
    • Hm.. Taxis.. Bellhops... Milkmen... Food delivery peoples.. People who take groceries out to cars.... : cameljoe
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      here, how about you go wait tables for a month than say tipping is bullshit. these people (i used to be ... : ColoradoCNC
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        certain things about tipping are fucked up, like tips being exponentially higher at expensive restaurants... : gegtik
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          Tell me you didn't just say that... Why are tips higher at places where the foods more expensive? If y... : Phreakin
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            wait, one second ago it was because waiters are going to starve to death and now they should be fleecing ... : gegtik
            • iawtp : lord_omega
        • Yeah, I've always wondered about that. But then, the table turnaround rate at more expensive restauran... : cameljoe
      • For once, I agree with this man. Well said. : Phreakin
      • why are you getting angry at me? I'm trying to change the system so you don't get paid 2 dollars an hour ... : mista mista
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        You're not listening to us. We want you to make more money. : Zero|DPX
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          http://www.shacknews.com/ja.zz?id=10334312 : rasputinreborn
          • http://www.shacknews.com/ja.zz?id=10333933 : Zero|DPX
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        That is why I almost always get a to go order. Why should I have to toss down an extra $3 - $5+ for my : Ebu
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          you don't have to, noone has a gun to your head. Your reaction to self-inflicted guilt is quite telling.... : rasputinreborn
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            It has nothing to do with guilt, it has to do with the knowledge that not tipping is akin to emptying a b... : Ebu
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              whatever, its not like most food handlers really contaminate your food. Using blackmail as an excuse to ... : rasputinreborn
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                Odd. http://www.shacknews.com/ja.zz?id=10335206 says that you should not fuck with foodservers, or they ... : cameljoe
                • I think its just a silly way to "scare" non-tippers into tipping. I don't agree with the strategy. : rasputinreborn
  • So, they commit assault on you (i.e. spit in your food) if they didn't think you gave them enough? Tha... : cameljoe
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    Oh give me a break. This is regarding those stupid tip jars you see at starbucks-like houses and other f... : Kiai
    • yeah, "baristas" or whatever don't objectively deserve tips imho. : rasputinreborn
  • Having worked as a cook in three different restaurants, I can confirm what this man says. If a server is ... : al9000
  • oh great extortion. pay us or we'll fuck your food up. that's really compelling. : -Panther-
• I can relate to this. On the ground floor of the building in which I work is a little convenience shop. ... : Omaha
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  Wow, this is one thread that has managed to piss me off more than any other thread in recent memory. gg s... : Phreakin
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    Why shouldn't the owners of restaurants just pay their servers a decent wage to begin with? : cameljoe
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      Because $2 + Tips/hour is much much much more then $7.50/hour or even $10/hour . : trove
      • i'm told by friends of mine who have done wait service for long stretches of time (years) that on average... : kbnerd
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  Christ, some of you guys are cheap assholes. : lightly inclined
  • Thats why they stick to the internet; real life is difficult for them. :D : rasputinreborn
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    Culturally, I like tipping. It's more of a personal way for me to acknowledge someone's work. It's micro-... : haiku
    • amen brother highcoo : rasputinreborn
    • Wow, standing ovation! : Phreakin
    • If tipping is part of US culture I have to consider reality TV, lawsuits, SUV drivers who don't signal, a... : Zero|DPX
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      maybe it's because I grew up in Australia, but I see it differently. I generally feel obliged to tip pret... : ChowYunCat
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        no money neccesary in that transaction. people to tip: waitstaff bartender delivery guy bar... : kbnerd
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          delivery guy!? uh-oh, I tipped the movers we used last time, but the guy that delivered our TV did so wit... : ChowYunCat
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            by delivery guy that's usually the pizza man. i don't think you tip people like movers or people who deli... : kbnerd
            • ah I see! Well I do tip the pizza guys so I guess I'm ok on that one! ;) : ChowYunCat
  • Oh.. you mean like the cheap assholes that hire these guys? I say tipping should be banned - I'd rathe... : surround
• i tip waitresses more than waiters : mr.sleepy
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  lolz, once in a while there is a thread where the real wankers of the shack become apparent. this is one ... : moshman
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    http://www.shacknews.com/ja.zz?id=10336368 : Zero|DPX
    • that is so damn true, why hasn't america changed that yet? (OK, I realise why, but it should be changed) ... : moshman
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    I think the major beef people have is "TIP JARS" in starbucks-type stores, where the people are just hand... : Barbarian
    • I think those are dumb too, but I wasn't referring to that in particular : moshman
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      so don't put any bloody money in. very simple. : -Panther-
      • No, more fun to bitch about the fact that a tip jar is there!!! : rasputinreborn
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  so all the people bitching about tipping are cheap bastards and all the people bitching about the bitchin... : -Panther-
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    I don't think you read the thread thouroughly if that's all you got out of it! There is plenty of reason... : rasputinreborn
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      bah, it's just that we (as a shack) have done this before and the discussion always ends up the same. ... : -Panther-
      • be sure to check out my awesome posts, much wisdom is contained therein :D : rasputinreborn
• Tonight I went out for a friends bday to a restaurant. When the bill came, there was "service charge" add... : madclown
• Also, what about tipping bartenders when yer at the club/pub/whatever social drinking spot? Do you fee... : madclown
• Also, what about tipping bartenders when yer at the club/pub/whatever social drinking spot? Do you fee... : madclown
• What about tipping the bartender at a bar/club? Tip jars have been pretty standard in this environment... : madclown
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  What about tipping the bartender at a bar/club? Tip jars have been pretty standard in this environment... : madclown
  • ^^^ really wants an answer : jaga