DICE New York Closed

by Maarten Goldstein, Jun 07, 2005 7:55am PDT

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By: iggypopped x Show Full Post

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the wow patch timing is perfect. now i can play battlegrounds all the time! =D

and seriously, shack, i'm disappointed in you. how could you let the news of our company closing down be < wow patch news. iwannabe teh center of the universe today!

Jun 07, 2005 1:24pm PDT

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the wow patch timing is perfect. now i can play battlegrounds all the time! =D and seriously, shack,... : iggypopped
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Hahahaha......Velcome ta Sveeden ya.

Jun 07, 2005 7:59am PDT

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- land of tall blonde hot babes : doomed

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I like how people confuse desert combat with BF2. these 12 people in NYC had nothing to do with BF2.

Jun 07, 2005 10:31am PDT

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I like how people confuse desert combat with BF2. these 12 people in NYC had nothing to do with BF2. : CentroX
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  Actually Trauma designed BF2 and DICE did the grunt work. : RTSNut
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    except not at all. : acheron
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      except yes, they designed the mod that inspired BF2. : deathofrats
      
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      except how hard is it to figure out that after Vietnam the next logical step is modern era? : acheron
      
      You do realize that BF:Vietnam came after Desert Combat right? If it wasn't for desert Combat we'll be... : omontero
      
      ps "inspired" does not = designed. : acheron
  - I thought it was - Dice did BF2 and Trauma was going to do the Battlefield game on the PS2? : Schnapple
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  no we worked on bf2, i designed some maps for it along with whats known as our R&D work for the game (we ... : iggypopped
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  - pwn3d by somebody who knows. : Ride-My-Rocket

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That's nice. Move to Sweeden or find a new job. By the way you'll need to learn Sweedish in the next 2 weeks. Here's a DVD with the Sweedish Chef's greatest hits on it so you can learn the basics.

Jun 07, 2005 8:25am PDT

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That's nice. Move to Sweeden or find a new job. By the way you'll need to learn Sweedish in the next 2 we... : Dynotaku
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I'd move to Sweden in a heartbeat if they offered it to me.

Jun 07, 2005 11:14am PDT

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I'd move to Sweden in a heartbeat if they offered it to me. : grendel
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By: SilverSnake x Show Full Post

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I think they'd have been better off closing down the Canada office. :P

I base this statement off what I've heard about BF'nam, I haven't played it myself

Jun 07, 2005 8:03am PDT

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I think they'd have been better off closing down the Canada office. :P I base this statement off what : SilverSnake
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By: shuuk`Semmel x Show Full Post

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pah !
Trauma Studios did very nice work and I thought it's their great chance being bought by Dice....
damn it...

Jun 07, 2005 8:02am PDT

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pah ! Trauma Studios did very nice work and I thought it's their great chance being bought by Dice.... ... : shuuk`Semmel
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  might not be so bad they got 30,000 and a reputation to start a new company with now, or the can keep and... : Yabrodan
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    yea that's right, that's nice for sure. But looks to me like dice only bought them for BF2, now this job... : shuuk`Semmel
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      I wouldn't call "All 12 people have been offered employement at the Sweden office." thrown away. : Speedy8
      
      Asking someone to move to Sweden is hardly a good choice. If they want another cutting edge (not web gam... : tharger
      
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      Yea, that's not being thrown away. Yes, for the ones with families, and such in/near NYC they can't real... : starvey
      
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      ok also interesting views ! well seeing it as a new possibility to gather new "life-experience".... but ... : shuuk`Semmel
      
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      Rockstar has a studio in NYC. They even have job offers right now. Maybe I should take the Tester job. An... : Outrager
      
      Some Rockstar guy used to get cut by my barber in the village : aphelion
      
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      I agree that Sweden would be a pretty cool place to work. They have some of the best broadband access in ... : Speedy8
      
      My 10 megabit fiberoptic line for $25 a month agrees with this : MrLonghair
      
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      Moving to Sweden doesn't sound so bad. : uncle slappy
      
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      until EA shuts down the swedish office, then what, you are stuck. how many game developers are in sweden... : deathofrats
      
      Umm, you move? : uncle slappy
      
      quite a few, actually. : silentzero
      
      DICE's main office is in Sweden, I highly doubt they would shut it down. : Speedy8
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    How much you want to bet they have non-competition clauses in the buyout? : Fred Garvin
    - Maybe since the $$ terms of the agreement were not met it will invalidate it. In any case, here's hoping... : YoYo

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By: MrLonghair x Show Full Post

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One E in Sweden, one E in Swedish.

Ya'll have to let go of those long-e pronounciations.

Jun 07, 2005 6:29pm PDT

One E in Sweden, one E in Swedish. Ya'll have to let go of those long-e pronounciations. : MrLonghair

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Unless you've got a multi million seller (i.e. GTA by rockstar, located on broadway, in NoHo/SoHo area), there is no way you can offset the cost of manhattan real estate. Just the truth.

Ahhh, the prospects of opening a studio across the river in BROOKLYN. But, I'm no venture capitalist (not yet at least), nor do I know any.

Like someone else wrote here, NYC has some brilliant, brilliant artists/conceptual folks (my roommate and a friend of mine are stunning new york industry artists, but alas have no spots because everything is... located on the west syyde).

What would it take to get a industry revolution in NYC? A lot. But the trend in the industry has been nicely bucked by Rockstar. Here's hoping a surge in nyc based developers takes off.

I love NY.

Jun 07, 2005 1:28pm PDT

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Unless you've got a multi million seller (i.e. GTA by rockstar, located on broadway, in NoHo/SoHo area), ... : tymetodie
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  Thing is, Rockstar only does central production and marketing out of the NYC office. The meat of the gam... : tharger
  - ^^ GTA is made in Edinburgh, Scotland, by Rockstar North. : SpiderMonkey
  - Well, what other city would you launch a massive guerilla marketing campaign other than New York? answ... : tymetodie
- I missed the Rockstar building while I was roaming aimlessly in NYC. I'll try to find it next time I'm th... : freshyk

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Too much lawyer/accounting/biz talk there. Can someone translate the quote? Did Trauma Studios lose money or what?

Jun 07, 2005 9:30am PDT

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Too much lawyer/accounting/biz talk there. Can someone translate the quote? Did Trauma Studios lose money... : rorshack
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- of course they didn't, they had a contract. if anyone has acted stupid in this case it's Trauma; they sig... : jerp

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By: S1ing B1ade x Show Full Post

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I think that in response to this, the entire BF community should boycott Battlefield 2. Viva la Resistance!

Bahahahha. Right. Even though I can't think of a better way for EA to give their community the finger, no one (me included) is going to actually not buy their game.

Jun 07, 2005 5:55pm PDT

I think that in response to this, the entire BF community should boycott Battlefield 2. Viva la Resistanc... : S1ing B1ade

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By: Luminair x Show Full Post

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Those poor Trauma guys. They won't likely be allowed to say anything in the public, but they got seriously fucked, and I feel bad for them.

Jun 07, 2005 12:54pm PDT

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Those poor Trauma guys. They won't likely be allowed to say anything in the public, but they got serious... : Luminair
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  They got $300,000, a lot of recognition and a job for however long it was. I don't see how that's them ge... : SpiderMonkey
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    they also lost the Desert Combat property which they created and which is worth a lot more than 300k. It... : Luminair

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Wow, Trauma got used, but then again, they seemed nuts to sign for the piddly amount they did. I guess this means they won't get to receive any royalties as well? Man, it sorta leaves me with a bad taste for the one game I was really looking forward too...

Jun 07, 2005 5:11pm PDT

Wow, Trauma got used, but then again, they seemed nuts to sign for the piddly amount they did. I guess th... : u sir name

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So what exactly were Trauma Studios working on?

Jun 07, 2005 12:14pm PDT

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So what exactly were Trauma Studios working on? : feek
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- Ugh, I mean DICE New York. What were they working on? : feek

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By: FatBaby x Show Full Post

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Seems like DICE is getting pretty good at the whole EA buyout strategy...

EA has taught them well!

Jun 07, 2005 9:37am PDT

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Seems like DICE is getting pretty good at the whole EA buyout strategy... EA has taught them well! : FatBaby
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  Dice Vader : rosewood
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    Nah the Farce is with Dice Vader. Dice has unwittingly sent a distress signal out to the modding commun... : richcz3
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      there actually are agents for game developers heh. : italiano3d

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Digital Illusions will not pay the supplement payment of 200,000 USD as agreed upon at the time of the acquisition of Trauma Studios. The total payment is thereby 300,000 USD. Following the adjustment for the default of payment of the additional supplement payment, the SEK 1.3m remainder of the value of goodwill is written down during the second quarter of 2005. Other costs of liquidation are diminutive.

Translation:
Digital Illusions agreed to pay 500,000$ USD(fire sale if you ask me) to acquire Trauma Studios now they will end up paying $300,000 USD plus a 1.3m SEK goodwill amount which comes to about $174,814USD. total: $474,814.

Divided between the 12 of them it comes to about 39k a person.

Jun 07, 2005 11:21am PDT

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  Almost enough to buy a decent mobile home. : WaterSign
  - Or to move to sweeden. : Durandal07

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By: Gauss x Show Full Post

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Haha, gold. Here's 25k each, we didn't want Desert Combat interfering with BF2. Thx.

Jun 07, 2005 9:00am PDT

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Haha, gold. Here's 25k each, we didn't want Desert Combat interfering with BF2. Thx. : Gauss
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  It is funny. But hey, they made some decent cash off of it in the end. Certainly better off now than ju... : kingdepork
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    Yeah its not like they didn't pay the amount they agreed to, or that those people got in gear for somethi... : YoYo
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      to me it sounds like they got fucked. : ease_one
      
      Sorry, my /sarcasm tag wasn't on my above post - I, in fact, agree with you sir. : YoYo

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I wonder how involved the Trauma Studio folks were in BF2's development?

Jun 07, 2005 8:21am PDT

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I wonder how involved the Trauma Studio folks were in BF2's development? : PoopStewart
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  " wonder how involved the Trauma Studio folks were in BF2's development? umm nothing? The "real" ... : CentroX
  - You're thinking of Modern Combat, which is neither crappy-looking nor built by Trauma, : acheron
  - desert combat is just the crappy looking console version Wow : rorshack
- iirc, Trauma guys would implement BF2 ideas into the BF42 engine for testing and tweaking; stuff that wor... : rasputinreborn

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So how long did these guys work on the mod before they got bought out? A year? They each get paid ~35k for the studio..that's pretty crappy for the amount of work they put into the mod.

Jun 07, 2005 11:32am PDT

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- Most of which was done for fun before they were acquired. If somebody came up to me and said, "Hey, I wa... : sinistarfith

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Fucking EA. They don't care about the workers, only the property. Oh you want your job? Here move to Sweden, so when we close down that studio in a year you will be SCREWED.

Jun 07, 2005 8:31am PDT

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Fucking EA. They don't care about the workers, only the property. Oh you want your job? Here move to S... : deathofrats
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  EA? Seemed like Dice to me... : K1Bond007
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    Might have been due to a order from EA to save cash. Or maybe not. Just because DICE announced it does... : SilverSnake
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      and anyway, wtf is wrong with sweden??? i'd move there if someone like DICE offered me a job there :P : d3m0n5
      
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      Nothing. I've lived here for 23 years and I love it. :D : SilverSnake
      
      (the beer prizes) but then again denmark is close :p : imperator
  - Im sure EA bought DICE on their second attempt. It sure as hell seems like an EA thing to do. : Beady

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Thats weak.... but I all I care about is RSC3 for Xbox360 :(

Jun 07, 2005 10:46am PDT

Thats weak.... but I all I care about is RSC3 for Xbox360 :( : DKo5

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Not too surprised. If their offices were in Manhattan, I don't see how it was practical to have an office there anyway. The real estate is far too expensive (on top of what you would subsequently have to pay workers to entice them to live and work there). Maybe if they were located in Brooklyn or Queens it might be doable, but I suspect having the cool Manhattan office was the only other reason to be there in the first place.

There's a good reason why there are few or no game developers located in NYC. I'm always surprised more don't put up offices in Canada and take advantage of the dollar difference.

Jun 07, 2005 8:44am PDT

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Not too surprised. If their offices were in Manhattan, I don't see how it was practical to have an office... : Silent Sorrow
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  Yeah, but look at the number of game companies in the San Francisco and LA areas. Those are almost as ex... : tharger
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    California, yes. SF & LA, less so. As a quick search here will demonstrate, most of the game companies ar... : SpiderMonkey
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      Heh I'd love to say I had the time to trawl through the archives of a guy who's disabled his search featu... : SpiderMonkey

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ie: We like your work, you're talented individuals, but really... all we wanted was the rights to your work!

Jun 07, 2005 8:12am PDT

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ie: We like your work, you're talented individuals, but really... all we wanted was the rights to your wo... : Landrosradick
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- That plus they were nice about it to start with. They could just have bought them out and closed them dow... : SpiderMonkey

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Considering how many jobs in the gameproducing industry that asks one to move to the US..

Jun 07, 2005 8:34am PDT

Considering how many jobs in the gameproducing industry that asks one to move to the US.. : MrLonghair

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