Late Night Consoling

i don't know if people give nintendo enough credit right now. they've been in this business a long time. they've made a lot of mistakes, but every mistake is a learning experience. and granted, some of these quotes (many times out of context or misleading) don't help much, but we don't know a thing about revolution. while it would take them a lot to come up as #1, there's not much doubt that they will at least have a profitable model in place for the future. they always have. i don't think it's out of touch.

they realize that there are 3 gigantic companies battling it out right now for the same market, and if they just go the generic "new high-powered console" route this time around, there's a big chance of them completely being overshadowed by the two other companies who either have a huge marketshare already or will have it the next time around. if all three companies make a high-powered console with online stuff, etc., all the same bells and whistles, what's the point? the biggest draw then would be first party games and past reputation, and judging by the sales of gta and halo to nintendo's mario, nintendo ain't winnin' that battle.

tldr, it's a risky venture for nintendo to claim revolution as an entirely different look on gaming, but it's an even riskier venture for nintendo to just make Gamecube2. But at this point, it's all speculation, and i'm very interested to hear what they bring to E3.

Condemned looks excellent. A $60 price tag does not.

"...speculated that EA would sell its next football game for $70"

...they also speculated that it would sell 4 copies.

If they think I'm gonna pay 60 and 70$ for a game, they are mistaken....

SO I rented Republic Commando today and man that is an awesome game. So intense, and the story was great, but not too much longevity, and it wasn't too long either. I beat it in one sitting , 8-9 hours (if that seems long for 1 sitting, my girl friend was out of town so I had to go hard core.). I'll try the multiplayer tomorow, but I don't think I'll go through the single player again. Awesome experience I regardless, I just don't want to ruin it for myself by playing it again and getting the same linear game.

Lumines? What the heck? Am I the only one who didn't know the Rez guy was working on a PSP launch title until, like, 15 minutes ago?

I'm already excited at the possibilities for RE5. I hope they use Leon again for some of the game, and bringing back some of the old survivors would be really cool, too.

Big N better show something really impressive in may because right now aside the few old school nintendo zealots out there nobody ain't understanding anything in their current behaviour or putting any faith in the so-called 'Revolution'. :-(
I've been a nintendo follower for the last 15 years yet my understanding of their politics is growing thinner every year.

It's all very well talking about appealing to "people who don't normally play games" with your consoles (DS/Revolution) but have Nintendo given any thought to *where* people buy their games?

Good luck persuading people who don't buy games normally to venture into one of the standard games retailers and good luck getting an adult market when the only other place that will stock your machines is toy stores.

They seem completely blind to this major flaw, or have they said anything about this?

I think I can say right now, that even if the Nintendo Revolution doesn't get a single third party game made for it, I will probably buy it anyway. Nintendo's inhouse titles are good enough to warrant for it.

Of course, with the next generation I will probably buy at least one more console as well, just as I did this one, just not sure which one yet (will wait and see what kind of titles shows up, but my bet is on the PS3 for RPG goodness).

I think (or hope?) that what is said in the article above is misunderstood/mistranslated/whatever and that it will all become clear when they show the console at E3 (which I kinda got confirmation that they will do in the latest issue of Nintendo Power here in Sweden).

Initial success doesn't mean shit. The Dreamcast (and God I loved the Dreamcast) on 9-9-99 became the fastest selling video game console of all time and the numbers for it weren't too impressive thereafter and all it had to deal with was the old and dying Nintendo 64, PlayStation and the whisper of the PlayStation 2. When the PS2 came out it was pretty much over.

Nintendo needs to get some of their shit straight. I love Nintendo too, but sometimes I question how they can be so naive. Nintendo dominated Atari and Sega throughout the 80's, lost a little in the early 90's then dominated again. Why? Because they had massive 3rd party support and they kicked out their usual first-party goodness. When PlayStation came out Sony stole that 3rd party support and became the top dog. Now years later after their failure with the N64 in which they said "we didn't do so hot because we didn't have the 3rd party support" they're jumping on a philosophy of we're gonna try to be revolutionary and if it works, yeah us, but if not holy shit third parties will hate us? GameCube was a solid effort after Nintendo64. It wasn't the greatest, but it was a step up IMO and now they're falling back into their own little world where they think everything they do is GOLD. Appeal to the 3rd party dumbasses.

I'd seriously love to be proven wrong and to see Nintendo succeed in their effort, but my faith in them is slowly decreasing. ARGH!!

Sid Meier's Pirates! to Xbox

Here are some Xbox screens

http://news.teamxbox.com/xbox/7775/Designer-Diary-Taking-Sid-Meiers-Pirates-to-Xbox/

I have read The Ultimate History and High Score. Both real good.

New Pariah screens

http://screenshots.teamxbox.com/gallery/841/Pariah/p1

nice

Don't worry alec. I like books with lots of pictures, too. :)

EA at its best... now that they have the 'NFL' under their belt, they think they are entitled to charge whatever they want for their games.

I'm not going to pay them a penny over $49.99 (and that's pushing it because I'm spoiled now thanks to the great pricing resulting from the TT vs EA skirmish).

all you kids saying that EA would hike the price of Madden now that they're the only game on the block, pat yourselves on the back. you all get a gold-star.

Question.

Is Retro Studios considered a second-party developer or a first-party developer? I had initially thought second, but I guess if they're "wholly-owned" that somehow makes them first-party?

I hope they go for a more urban setting in RE5.

What the fuck is going on?

"if that next-gen market can still expand the games industry, then I'm afraid that third-parties may not support Nintendo"

Nintendo has had less third-party support for each subsequent console they release. They have zero third party support now.

And the president says that if developers plan to make more grand better looking games (which they do), they won't like the Revolution?

What the fuck is going on? I think the translation must be bad.

Revolution will be Nintendo's final home game console if this continues.

Well that's a good idea Nintendo. Make a system that third party developers aren't going to want to develope for. That's the ticket!

if you guys know any other video gaming books please list them.

I saw 2 on my trip to Holland that I've never seen again, I'll dig out the ISBN #'s.

But im also interested to find other books.

thanks

$70 for a football game? Forget that shit. I'll keep playing the old ones then.