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Doom Movie Scriptwriter Addresses Fans
by Alec Matias, Dec 14, 2004 7:10am PSTDave Callaham, the scripwriter for the upcoming Doom movie, has written a personal letter to the Doom community to address the massive backlash the film has received from some leaked details of the plot. He gave the letter to HomeLAN Fed, who has it hosted on their site. Here's a snippit:
I've found it frustrating that I somehow became the goat for the perceived shortcomings of the film, because (and I say this with no humility whatsoever, because I'm not a humble person), that I am, without a doubt, the greatest ally the Doom fan has had during the entire process of the film being made. I am the only person involved creatively who has ever made any attempt to open discourse with the game's internet fanbase, and I am the only person involved who has continually kept the ideals of the game first and foremost in mind. I very truthfully believe that my unapologetic and hyper-violent script would have been a Doom fan's movie dream come true. However, since my involvement, the film has steadily moved away from the realm of fandom and more toward the realm of traditional Hollywood interests. It's not been ideal, in my opinion, but I did what I could when I could, and I stand by that work.
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just kidding...it'll suck.
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In my honest opinion, there was no need for Dave Callaham's post, nor are there any need for our replies about it. If people are upset about it and don't want to support the movie anymore, then make less post's about it and don't generate press. It's set in stone, and it's how the movie is going to be. They will not change it. Why? Because DOOM is I would say the most popular franchise name known to PC gaming. The movie is going to reach a much broader audience than the games, and this is where the "real money" will be made from. Not from the fans, because from what it looks like, 90% of the fans already don't want to see this movie because of it's "minor changes" which are really major. Game to movie adaptation is the art of generating the most money from the fanbase, and movie consumers. Hollywood makes a movie that has hip and trendy things that relate to millions of people worldwide, this being SWAT, Virus Infected Zombies, etc. and using a popular franchise name, DOOM to draw in the fanbase for even more cash. I know many people in the game and movie industry, and this is exactly how it works. Another example of squeezing money out of using a franchise name. So when it's released as DOOM The Movie, and really has nothing to do with DOOM, all the corporate honcho's will eat it up and there will be major press all over the internet about it, to stir even more people into going to see it, everyone makes their millions and the "real DOOM fanbase" that really made the franchise what it is today from constantly buying the games will be left with bad taste in their mouths. It's never been about the fans no matter what anyone says, because it's all about the money.
SWAT+MP5's+Zombies+Earth = NOT DOOM
Space Marines+PlasmaGuns+Demons+Hell and/or Mars = DOOM
This is not hard! I won't be seeing this movie now either. I've seen enough SWAT!
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I dunno.. the hollywood ppl have failed us in video game movies... i did some research on what Andrzej Bartkowiak
has directed before and he has some hits.. but he also made Twins, Speed, and Dantes peak...... as for the writer he is a new commer... also once hollywood gets a hold of something they have a wierd formula that they put into the movie and make it based on that formula.
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"Go to hell"
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You lose.
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If I was going to make a movie about Doom 3, I'd basically rip off the plot structure of Die Hard, only I'd set it on Mars, cast Bruce Campbell as the main character, and have him fight demons instead of terrorists/thieves.
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Only time will truely tell if the Doom movie will be U W E ' D
I am, without a doubt, the greatest ally the Doom fan has had during the entire process of the film being made ... encouraging to know there is a whole one invovled with this film
We all have high expectations, and a lot of them won't be met ... ... ...
You gotta give him credit for his honesty though, he brings up valid points when saying that everyone already has their own expectation as to what the movie should or should not do, and that's hard to meet for an existing fanbase.
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Yes... I'm sure this is going to be top rate entertainment.
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Writer: Right here sir.
...reads summary, sees the word "Hell" a few times
Producer: What is this? This isn't good, the investors don't want movies about Hell.
Writer: But the game... hmmm kay.
<some time later>
Producer: Where's my Doom The Movie script?
Writer: Right here sir.
...reads summary, sees the word "Mars" and "Space Station" a few times
Producer: This isn't good, we don't have the budget for the kind of special effects needed.
Writer: But the game... hmmm kay.
<some time later>
Producer: Where's my Doom The Movie script?
Writer: <mumbles>"doom" the movie my ass
Producer: What's that?
Writer: hmm nothing
...reads summary
Producer: So why's this soldier attacking the monsters?
Writer: Well if he doesn't they'll kill him.
Producer: Ok but why do they want to kill him?
Writer: Well they're monsters!
Producer: Nah that won't do, we need something special that ties them to the hero, something to give depth to the movie...
Writer: ...
Producer: Oh I know, they couldve killed his parents when he was a kid!!!
Writer: <dies>
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The movie needs to be like this and not much different.
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- Takes place in a jungle instead of Black Mesa
- Has no zombies or aliens, but instead you fight mosquitoes with a cigarette lighter and a can of aerosol
- Instead of Gordon Freeman we will have John Actionman
- A GravGun that is named a Bio Dimensional Distortion Gun
- And a G-man that is short, fat, dumb, wisecracks, and is killed early in the movie
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This will forever be knowng in history as the "official DOOM movie," and it's not even in the same setting even remotely. Fucking assholes.
While we're at it lets make an EverQuest videogame set in the fucking future with laser rifles and techno robots.
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Dr Carmack
Dr. Steve Willits
Dr. Jenna Willits
I assume that the Doomguy is named John Grimm, and Karl Urban (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0881631/) looks like a good choice to play him--fairly good resemblance to the face I have seen in the Doom HUD all these years.
Doom has very little story.
Think about it. A guy with a gun shoots nasty monsters. The progression through the game is getting a bigger gun, fighting bigger monsters. That's a pretty hard movie to pitch.
As for the side of seeing a good script turned into something pretty average, watch the documentary on Alien3 on the Quadrilogy boxset. I reckon that pretty much sums up what's being going on behind closed doors, though probably ever more so due to the Doom franchise not being an already high profit film series.
With a bit of luck it'll turn out to be solid, if stupid, entertainment. I just hope there's no WWE-dunking predators in it :)
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It seems like that kind of formula would work for a Doom movie. Just basically follow the D3 plot: he arrives, hell breaks loose, and you have this lone marine exploring the base, looking for a way out. Hardly any soundtrack, just a lot of ambient sounds and stranges screams coming from somewhere.... He could even have a girlfriend or something waiting for him back home. That wouldn't break the story or anything.
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they made some doom books for fucks sake
My advice is for them to get out a thesarus, look up the word doom, and then pick an alternate word to name the movie. That way it will still be the same...
just with a twist.
1. HELL.
2. DEMONS from HELL.
3. GUNPLAY with DEMONS from HELL.
Bonus points if you throw in a chainsaw ballet set to a pumping techno or heavy-metal track. And equal bonus points if there's any mention/usage of a big fucking gun somewhere near the latter parts of the film. Throw in a couple of exploding Cacodemons and you're golden.
What's so hard about that?
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Oh. So its going to suck.
Damn it. >:(
this is so depressing. but i give him props for being honest and addressing the fans with respect. at least HE doesn't suck. :\
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So yeah, we can't know for certain, but this guy may have been the only voice representing the true nature of the game amongst other people who really couldn't give a crap about anything other than cranking the movie out as cheaply as possible (the fact that they are filming in Prague says it all to me).
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I'm sorry, but hell on mars is cheesy in movies. Games, for one reason or another, can succeed all expectations in this setting.
Id has spent years vetoing scripts -- I remember some talk about this reaching back from around the time of Doom 2. Obivously with the sort of budgets and the scale of the movie project, there are certain concessions you have to make in order to hit mainstream.
As big of a business as games are, and as consistent as Id is at delivering greatness, the movie industry is so much more mature and profitable.
If you're upset about the way things are going, be upset because you didn't get your fan-catering B-action gore flick with Evil Dead style humor. However, it's very clear that this was never the intent here, so stop gnashing your teeth over every script decision: the target audience of this film is a bygone conclusion.
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Any of you fans out there that expect or expected a Doom movie that you are going to like are OUT OF YOUR MIND!
Not only are good movies rare but Doom is a game, it was not written to be a movie. To make it a movie, or even a good movie it HAS to be changed so it better fits the new format. So many people, even people I work with want every game made into a movie, but it does not work. The presentation is SOOOOO different. The pacing is SOOOOOO different. Just stop it, the best thing to happen to a game is not a movie. Jesus!
So back to my point that i must be changed to make it work well within the movie format. If it gets changed, which it must, then the fans will be pissed. So in a sense any video game movie is "Doomed" from the start. See?
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