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  With all your "us" talk, I take it you work at a devleoper? : Kryn
  • Yeah, my company got screwed prety hard today. : chunkenmaster
• That really sucks. I finally played Madden 2K5 on the XBox for the first time. Good game. Fun game.... : afty04
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  You fail to forget EA has the resources to make as good as a game in one year, than "you" or whoever you ... : TheNarcis
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    Then why didn't they just make a good game instead of stopping us from making a good game? : chunkenmaster
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      Ok this statement sounds rather childish... just the way its worded sounds lack there of educated... so p... : TheNarcis
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        Thank You, Dr. Phil. : XerXes
        • Welcome! : TheNarcis
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        I never said EA's game sucks. It is a good game. But it is not the best game. The reson EA made this deal... : chunkenmaster
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          20% is not exactly huge. It's noticeable, but it's not huge. My guess is the NFL got tired of making smal... : snowbrd
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            Would you dismiss a 20% pay cut? I bet you wouldn't. 20% is huge : filtersweep
            • 20% is VERY huge. Any double digit transfer of market share, and sometimes depending on the number of pla... : dafragsta
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        just the way its worded sounds lack there of educated Wow. Speaking of "lack there of educated"... : nmehl
        • dont pretent it is not correct! : TreMetal
      • This is the most ironic post I've ever read. : phreakshow
• I take it you work for sega or vc, if so thanks. really. you have no idea how much i've enjoyed your ti... : hube
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  Good to see a rival developer making this kind of post. I will buy ESPNNFL2k5 tomorrow. : phreakshow
  • 2nd'd. I already have NBA 2k5, and Ive been eyeing the NFL game for some time now. : XerXes
  • I take back my post, because ESPNNFL2k5 is only for consoles. I'm going to do a 180 here and say fuck yo... : phreakshow
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  I also work at a competitor of EA, but we look at it pretty differently. EA's move, despite being anti-c... : royaljester
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    Most companies look at making video games as a good way to make money. That's not how I see it. I want to... : chunkenmaster
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      I prefer to make a great game that makes lots of money than any of the options you listed. Making a grea... : royaljester
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        Couldn't they release it under the name ESPN 2k6 and lose the old NFL2kx moniker without penalty? : derelict515
        • Yeah, but not a single player, team, or stadium can be called by their real name since EA has exclusive r... : nakedsavage
    • I'm not sure your employer thinks the same... : snowbrd
    • You are just so wrong. What you are talking about are most game developers, not most game shops. In the : dafragsta
    • You are just so wrong. What you are talking about are most game developers, not most game shops. In the : dafragsta
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    No one is debating that its a good move for EA. Its just shitty for everyone but them (and the NFL). : derelict515
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      Chunkmaster seems to be debating it. Read his post. He's saying somehow in the long run this move will sc... : royaljester
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        He's saying that VC knows they had a superior product and they can do it again. This move by EA just prov... : derelict515
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          "but there is a problem with your little formula here" He's saying that EA has made a miscalculation. F... : royaljester
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            They made a miscalculation if they think they've just killed off VC for good. : derelict515
            • They're smart enough for locking VC out of the NFL for 5 years. Killing off VC would just give them bonu... : royaljester
• and that's only in the ideal case where they don't renew in 5 years :/ good luck guys, I've been buy... : -Panther-
• Good to hear from one of you guys. Hoping for the best for VC and anyone else looking to one up EA at any... : derelict515

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  u fuking commie! : STURM Mr Grey
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    fuck that, I've had to sit here for 5 fucking years and listen to you guys bash EA. I'm going to gloat w... : djustifier
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      Yes because EA is really the underdog in the videogame industry...LOL! : Vorlonesque
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        EA - #1 in the Videogame industry, #1000 on the shack. : djustifier
        • but honestly that's cause a lot of us just don't like the games they make anymore. I can't speak to Ma... : freshview
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          b/c they suck ass : AllYourBase
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            Real informative argument there. : djustifier
            • just like your first post! : AllYourBase
        • So you're happy that they're doing something that will make those of us who didn't dislike EA hate them? ... : Vorlonesque
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  When next we meet... We meet as enemies. : Ajax
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    Would you prefer we get exclusive licenses for ricers? : djustifier
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      I would prefer that you realize that it's anticompetetive and therefore anti anything good! EA will real... : STURM Mr Grey
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        No, it's not. It's called hitting your competition harder than they can hit you. Sega dropped the price... : djustifier
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          we? do you work for ea or have any affilliation with ea? where's we come from? you're just a fanbo... : ^-SeaWolf-^
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            Sorry. thought that was common knowledge. I had a huge post about it a few months ago. : djustifier
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              that's pretty pathetic that your stance is ALL OR NOTHING FUCK EVERYONE ELSE. you don't see valve, epi... : ^-SeaWolf-^
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                No, my stance is not all or nothing. Both EA and Sega co-existed nicely until this year. The only tacti... : djustifier
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                  FYI, EA sucks. : FuryVII
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                    Wow, way to keep the conversation on track there, guy! Good work!! : Ajax
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                      No, I already put in my worthwhile comments, I decided to go the unarguable opinion route. But thanks ... : FuryVII
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                        thanks for hijacking our subthread. please leave : ^-SeaWolf-^
                        • Umm yea, subjacking a thread. Just ignore me then. You guys need to give it a rest sometimes. I hope y... : FuryVII
                  • oh. was that supposed to hurt or something? : djustifier
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                  so dropping the price was just a dirty tactic to cut into ea's sales? what's wrong with that? busines... : ^-SeaWolf-^
                  • Yeah. Between that and the hack-job that the Need for Speed franchise has become, its really tough not to... : Ajax
                  • No kidding - it's bad enough they bought the exclusive rights, but it's even worse not to DO anything wit... : Waverider
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                    I certainly hope that Sega's price drop wasn't because they felt they had too much money already. Yes, c... : djustifier
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                      Dropping your price is called competition. Exclusive deals is not. : Chod
                      • Exactly. As a consumer, lower prices don't hurt me...but less choices aren't exactly helping me out. : Vorlonesque
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                        haha. omg. look around you, man. Exclusive deals are EVERYWHERE. : edgewise
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                          Not exclusive as in 'we will be the exclusive provider of any and all beverages that include carbonation'... : derelict515
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                            Your analogy would work if they were the sole provider of all videogames. they're not controlling all vid : edgewise
                            • It seems like a few more steps in the wrong direction and its a pretty solid monopoly. Rumors are EA is l... : derelict515
                    • Honestly though making ANOTHER NFL game is NOT such an investment that they weren't making money off of a... : freshview
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                      no it's not a dirty tactic, it's called loss leading. companies do it all the time in order to get name... : ^-SeaWolf-^
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                        So, knowing that a competitor is using this tactic against you, what would you do in order to prevent the... : djustifier
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                          If sega did it, it would be bullshit, too. And I'm not saying they wouldn't have, they might have, it'... : freshview
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                            I truly believe that if Sega had done this, the shack would have exploded from all the "Fuck EA" comments... : djustifier
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                              We might find out for sure if Sega Sports announces an ESPN/NBA exclusivity deal. : Ajax
                              • I think at this point though you wouldn't get accurate results because everyone would be of the opinion t... : Vorlonesque
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                          your whole viewpoint is that anything sega does is specifically designed to hurt ea. when you own a sig... : ^-SeaWolf-^
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                            How can Sega's price drop not be a way to eat into EA's sales? When you only have 2 competitors anything... : djustifier
                            • Maybe they thought that $20 was all they could sell it for and remain competitive (and even that didn't w... : Vorlonesque
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                      Unfortunately, I don't think that the market for the American Football game is comparable to the market f : Ajax
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                        Personally, I liked the competition. I liked knowing that whatever we tried to do with Madden, Sega was ... : djustifier
                        • But it really does exactly that. There was only one dev company still competing with Madden. MS had taken... : derelict515
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                          You know that's exactly what's going to happen now though. Look at the NBA Live series... You guys didn't : Ajax
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                            Hey, let me live in my fantasy world, ok? : djustifier
                            • Is there any chance that they make good NFS games in your fantasy world? If so, please send me an invite! : Ajax
              • No, they do it by selling out to the 2 leading graphic card companies to make us have wars. : TheNarcis
        • Haha, you said "we". Seriously you are either with EA or a HUGE fanboy. Either way you are letting that ... : FuryVII
        • EA's sales dropped close to 30% because of the ESPN price drop. So yeah it effected them pretty good. : chunkenmaster
    • You know, EA sent me a feedback questionairre about Need for Speed last week. I was pretty brutal with my : Ajax
• When did anyone secure Nascar rights? I assume it was EA? Not that I care. : FuryVII
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  EA RULEZ!!!!!! : pheral
  • This post is no better than FuryVII's : djustifier
• We need more UMax in this thread (and the others). : Vorlonesque
• You're the one that's going to be sucking down old must suck-ass games. Madden has been basically the SA... : Sylvanus
• Good thing I know to not feed the trolls...it was tempting. You used to seem cool, but I guess the tru : Nixx2004
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  Seriously, dude. This post is just embarassing. : filtersweep
  • It's not as bad as the one that got nuked... : Nixx2004

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  Not even close. Madden decimated ESPN2k5 (not nearly as bad as 2004, but still Flawless Victory) : mojoald
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    And it's still the inferior product... : Tripps
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      oh good lord no dude. The only thing SEGA had going for it in this round was the online leagues and gra... : jedi_27
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        There were dirty uniforms in ESPN this year... : derelict515
        • not evel close. Load up the RAVENS vs the PACK in either stadium and jack up the rain. The RAVENS wi... : jedi_27
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        How about playbooks that actually resemble their respective teams? Madden's playbook is a generic as i... : Serum 114
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          the hit stick was retarded. grrr so so lame. But MADDEN had a much deeper franchise mode, its AI wa... : jedi_27
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            I do agree that Madden had a way deeper franchise mode, but the feel was IMO terrible. Why they were bot... : cltcprd
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              see i felt the exact opposite. I could take a team (almost any team) in ESPN and drive up the field with... : jedi_27
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                I must also point out that I almost play sports games exlcusively in multi player any more since single p... : cltcprd
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                  its a shame you lose to emo then. Playing you in the playoffs of the shack league could have been fun :)... : jedi_27
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                    GROSSMAN!!!!! One way players ingame help you out. It is definately tough to win a game with a QB ratin... : cltcprd
                    • agreed. i will say that SEGA had a better injury possibility then EA. and the injuries seemed more real : jedi_27
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                    i'm up for a game anytime btw. Screw our dead league, I want to own you like i did when we first played. : cltcprd
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                      the league is not dead :) We just lost all the people who's teams no longer had a chance. WEEK 12 start... : jedi_27
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                        League is dead, several peoples records are inflated by them getting wins over the players that quit. I'... : cltcprd
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                          there was nothing we could do about people that quit early. But toward the end of the season those teams ... : jedi_27
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                            I'm just saying its not cool when one person has to work for their wins (and losses) when others are hand... : cltcprd
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                              its almost impossible to get people to play all their games and to keep them interested for 12 weeks. We... : jedi_27
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                                I'm vehemently against pay leagues for videogames, but this is exactly the problem that pay leagues are m... : Holesinswiss
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                                  I would so be down for this. I think using the message board on the site would be the best thing for set... : cltcprd
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                                    Yeah, my main point is that you shouldn't lose money by doing what you're supposed to. The absense penalt... : Holesinswiss
                                    • I knew what your point was, I just added a little xtra. Look at the dozens of fantasy football leagues o... : cltcprd
                              • Rough total of games played: Through week 11: 78/154 games = ~50% Through week 6: 63/84 = 75% Week... : cltcprd
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                          I've been keeping tabs on who "earned" their wins in the league versus otherwise. I'll include the data i... : Holesinswiss
                          • you are my hero. And i did not have time to reply to your last message. But yeah we will play out W... : jedi_27
                • Watching people play Madden online is just a joke. It all about 3 million player maker moves, a few extra... : derelict515
          • Hahaha, the crib points were fucking G-A-Y. OMG! I GET TO PLAY AGAINST A PSEUDO-CELEBRITY WHOSE WISECRACK : Serum 114
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            Yeah, thank god for create-a-fan...Personally I find the idea of a running back breaking through the tack... : derelict515
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              Your criticism of ESPN's running game being way too easy is valid, but your comment about the passing gam... : Serum 114
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                I was commenting that while ESPNs running game may be easy at times it still poses a more realistic view ... : derelict515
                • Sorry, misread the post. : Serum 114
            • don't get me started on the LAME-FAN thing. Another joke from EA. But everything else you posted . . ... : jedi_27
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    Your opinion, but the reviews and players say differently, bub. Enjoy your cold shallow same as '97 game... : Sylvanus
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      he's referring to sales not gameplay. : Steve Gibson
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        True. True. My bad. :) : Sylvanus
        • Waitaminute! I was referring to #70 who isn't referring to sales.... Steve, do you have Jedi mind po... : Sylvanus
      • So.. did you use the Jedi mind trick on me? Se my lower posts to my initial reply to you. :) : Sylvanus
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  Good less whiney bitchs to listen to ;) : mastarp
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    You do realize that for the next 5 years EA could sell Madden for $60 and literally do nothing but update... : derelict515
    • thats the part that bugs me and pi$$ me off. I think MADDEN is a much better title, but they have had to... : jedi_27