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• Nice. bookmarkable : Draugluin
• this is great news. I installed steam yesterday, did about 10 minutes of updating (twice for some reason)... : thecray
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  Yeah I was wondering why it started validating my HL2 files.. ... : K1Bond007
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    same here. and now we know. : AMikaboshi
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      ...and knowing is half the battle. I should be ashamed for quoting that :( but I'm not : K1Bond007
      • i thought about posting that too, heh : AMikaboshi
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  "small number". LOL : Cygnus X-1
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    so is there a way to get around the sound skipping issues for now? hargh. : tsuba
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      it seemed to get better towards the end for me. I also tried adding "-heapsize 512000" in the launch pro... : YamatoTwinkie
      • *ponders "-heapsize 1024000"* : Helter Skelter
• nice!! hurry up valve! : jojomcbobo
• +inf plz : rasputinreborn
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  nvidia? Any update on the soundstorm problems? : wunderbred
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    ^^^ id like to know as well! : anthonybean
    • :( : wunderbred
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      !!! http://www.shacknews.com/ja.zz?id=9038724 : wunderbred
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        very cool! though i want to wait for an official, because it's for the mobo : anthonybean
        • Well, mine died on Wednesday so it'll be next week before I get it. If an official release isn't out by ... : wunderbred
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  so when i load up STEAM, it downloads the update on its own ? : jedi_27
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    If you have it set to monitor HL2 : Ebu
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      err i don't think so. not sure. but if i load up HL2 will it get the update then ? : jedi_27
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        Only if you have it set to 'keep this game up to date' in the properties. : Ebu
        • oh that i do know! and yeah it is . . . cool beans : jedi_27
• TY! : Merconium
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  I am one of the unlucky people with the stuttering sound :( : Lawgiver
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    no i have it as well. i lowered by sounds quality to low and texture quality to medium and it seems to b... : jedi_27
    • i think, he was being ironic. :) : lonestar3
  • With all of the stuttering issues, I now have a good reason to play through it again :) : pulse2115
  • does it constantly stutter or just in certain situations? I had it in some places but I haven't notice... : mc-fine
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  Small number? LOL, seems pretty much an epidemic. : digitaljihad
  • THERE IS NO EPIDEMIC : ValveInformationMinister (#4199) : Senor PoopyPants
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  Does this happen for Audigy people also? : jhof
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    i don't think it's so much a soundcard issue as it is fetching data from the HD and bogging the system is... : cpt_gloval
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      While this is true, pulling my Audigy 2 for my onboard ALC850 improved the issue somewhat. Now it only sk... : fraeone
      • interesting. what are your system specs? : cpt_gloval
  • I get awful stuttering with an Audigy2. : Stage
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  Hi, I have created a site that contains all of the information on this issue that I have seen to date.... : RanmaSan
  • is this update supposed to help with the stutter? cuz it didn't help me... : mx2323
• Does anyone know of a temporary solution to the sound skipping and long loads? I know someone mentioned h... : Gauss
• lol @ "small number of users"... : moshman

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• Those graphics suck! : Fayk
• Ahahahaha! : sgtsanity
• yikes... my condolences : mrtony
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  hl3 screenshots?! : itsjames
  • OR STALKER!!!! : Turd Ferguson
• lmao that's pretty neat : thebigbeefsandwhich
• That last one is perfect. : malevolence
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  Needs more crowbar... : CrimsonHandHiro
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    http://captain_hampton.shackspace.com/crowbar.jpg : captain hampton
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      nice! haha : rasputinreborn
      • first time using gimp. i kinda like it. : captain hampton
    • That's more like it... : CrimsonHandHiro
• baha. You live in City 17. : stump
• that's pretty funny : ingentis
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  That's what is amazing about the source engine. Everything in Half-Life 2 has "character". Although I t... : Maddog_Delphi97
  • Apparently not so nuts, if you look at debris.jpg :D : SiW73
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  yup looks about right http://img70.exs.cx/img70/7650/yup2.jpg : evilbastard129
  • haha, awesome : SiW73
• Nice :) I just watched The Bourne Identity and lots of the city scenes reminded me of HL2... : SlamDunk
• needs more headcrab : g0nk
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  One last silly one: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v50/SiW73/hl2world/aim.jpg I need to go buy a : SiW73
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    Hahah, those are excellent. Esp the debris one. If you see some dude on fire come running at your ass, ... : Phil
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      Confession time. I was walking to the gas station last night and took a shortcut through the debris.jpg : SiW73
      • actually, there is a city in russia or something, which valve possibly used as a sample for city 17. and ... : lonestar3
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    you had BETTER have a fucking gun living there. =) : DinK
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      Yeah, I see any headcrabs and they get a plastic BB to the face! : SiW73
      • Holy Crap!! So is Gordon your neighbor? : Das Ogre
  • Here's one from my area that shows a different section of the game. (repost): http://img.photobucket.com/... : BlackCat9
• hahaha awesome. perfect! : Odoyle
• Hahah that's awesome : digweed014
• OMG YOU LIVE IN HL2!! lol : gibson_lp
• needs more cl_showfps 1 :[ : My Documents
• Wow. That really is HL2. : zuga
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  someone PS the HUD and crowbar on to the one of those pics. : Cygnus X-1
  • Yea, PS the HUD and hand with crobar into debris.jpg. That would be perfect. I lack PS skillz : zuga
• lolz, it'd be perfect if a crate was in one of those ! : qwpeoriu
• This, to me, is why HL2 is so stunning. Valve has taken the stereotypical images of a run-down urban env... : wunderbred
• damn what kind of video card you got? : khaosman
• You need to move. That's not a pretty looking town :( : ieGod
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  damn, thats pretty eerie : sexninja!!!!
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    it's Iowa, not PA : drucifer
    • *norf* *skeezle* *gniffle* : rasputinreborn
    • If youve lived there, you know that they are one in the same. : Squirrely
• needs more night time shots : drucifer
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  So which town is it? : c0bra
  • profile : rasputinreborn
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  Half Life 2 Larping videos please : mr.sleepy
  • GRAVITY GUN! GRAVITY GUN! GRAVITY GUN! : CrimsonHandHiro
  • But where's he going to get the HEV (sp?) suit? MAKE IT! : loboca
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  I think you need to shoot the barrels. : nurglich
  • they won't explode, they're not red : ColoradoCNC
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  My contribution: http://phil.askluke.com/stuff/debris.jpg I'd clean it up more, but it's 5 oclock. : Phil
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    The soldier popping out from the side makes that picture. : cajuncook
    • words right out of my mind : jrock
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    That combine soldier's pose belongs in a Benny Hill skit. :P Like when one guy is chasing another guy in... : forgottenzero
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      yeah he is in a seriously wacky position : mohmar
      • i'd say it's more zany than wacky : cam3lt0sis
    • I read this post with Yakety Sax playing in my head... Everything is funnier with Yakety Sax blaring over... : CrimsonHandHiro
  • lol...awsome : lord_omega
  • lol! That combine dude cracks me up. : ThomW
• fascinating : BadRespawn
• If you stack those barrels in the last screenshot, you can get on the roof and wreak havoc. Games turn m : SLUDGE^
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  ROOFLES! yea, agreed! All you need now is some headcrab zombies and the Combine police. Lets not forget t... : KillSwitchEngaged002
  • You must be on crack. : sigma
• needs more buzzsaw : sammyl
• MISTAKE!!! NO CRATES : Downforce
• You live in City 17!? WTF I didn't think it was a real place. : Priest77
• This is... scary.. So, how is Breen? : aaarrrgh
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  I'd bet it'd be kind of creepy walking around your town after playin' HL2. Let's just hope you never have... : slip42o
  • http://www.shacknews.com/ja.zz?id=9037779 : SiW73
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  http://smbz.notworksafe.com/debrishaxxed.jpg : supermonkeyballz
  • needs more headcrabs. : steelsamurai
  • I like the subtle Steam logo on the door : humpx
• HL2 is how America will look in the Republican controlled future after 8 years of President Cheney and VP... : bored
• Ohhh! That's some fantastic bump mapping and parallax mapping. Please, tell me what videocard you use and... : coldfusioncs
• Thanks for the moderation guys, I thought it interesting and hoped others would. Apparently so :) I f... : SiW73
• hahaha holy shit your town should totally sue valve :) : paganritual

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  why would they not stick with the 3.5 liter VQ that they use in ALL their other vehicles? : AssGoblin
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    no idea. i could guess that the current 350z engine doesn't take well to FI. I've read a bunch of pos... : sucko
    • WHA?? You mean 30k miles of FI on the engine? Cause I haven't seen anything about the engine not being wo... : kevp
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      Um, yeah you are either lying, they are lying, or they ran the stinking piss out of their cars and dont w... : alcaron
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        he's talking about VQs with FI not lasting over 30k : AssGoblin
        • Very astute. One has a stillen SC, the other two have TC's from, I dont know where. None of them we... : alcaron
• Getrag makes some nice trannys. It is what is in my 328, and I believe they make most of the BMW trannys... : themelon
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  let's see, my car will be payed off in... 2007.. what do you know? : snuff
  • But my next car will be cheap so I can also buy a Corvair to fix up and not pay so much fucking insurance... : snuff
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  Stylistically, I don't like the direction Nissan have been going with their exterior designs. Everying p... : My Documents
  • Except your a girl and you can't drive so your opinions don't matter. kidding btw : boomstickah
  • Well, more sexy car goodness for me! Lurv the new Maxima, lurv the new Altima, lurv the Murano, 350Z, ... : alcaron
• awesome ' : Turd Ferguson
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  I miss the old body style :( : genjuro
  • I tuner shop in my town had an r32 for a couple months. That thing was so hot. : Prozium
  • Thank you. The whole "concept" look should stay in concept. :[ : My Documents
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  but driving a manual is more fun.. :| : cpt_gloval
  • WAY more fun. : xxiv
  • Manual convert 4 life 10/6/2004 : EvilDolemite
• oh wow.. just saw the body.. not pretty. : snuff
• that totally looks like the 350Z : redfive
• if the ass of the next skyline looks ANYTHING like the concept there i'll have lost all respect for nissa... : ^-SeaWolf-^
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  not that it won't be a great PERFORMING car, but in a G35 coupe body? Just isn't mean enough LOOKING for... : digitalburro
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    Yeah, the R34 was a mean looking motherfucker. It had the perfect balance of brawler and sportscar - prob... : genjuro
    • indeed, the R34 is just "one of those cars" that will forever be in my dream list mostly because of it's ... : digitalburro
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    Serious? I find the G35 coupe, 2005, with rear spoiler, in black, to be a badass looking machine. : EvilDolemite
    • Nowhere near as badass as an R-34. : zerofunk
    • It's a good looking car but it's not even close to the badassity of an R34. : genjuro
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      don't get me wrong, I like the looks of the G35 in and of itself. But I've yet to see one that looks MEA... : digitalburro
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        The "S K Y L I N E" in place of the standard logo is probably because in Japan the G35 is a Skyline, lite... : alcaron
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          yea I know it was a reference to the japanese name, but it featuring a host of other asthetic *cough* goo... : digitalburro
          • Ick, yeah, just punch him in the face.... : alcaron
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        This at night would do it for me: http://www.lisupras.com/g35/6.jpg : jrock
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          or this: http://g35driver.com/g35albums/album34/IMG_6561.jpg : jrock
          • best skyline concept http://www.151boost.com/pix/car_images/images/Prototype%20Nissan%20Skyline%20GT-R... : evil-cow
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  Wait, "electric-assisted Turbos"? So they ahve a small motor keeping the turbos spooled up? Interesting c... : CSParsons
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    What's the reason for that? Eliminate turbo lag right? Shutup Parsons, I don't know nearly as much ab : genjuro
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      The idea would be to eliminate turbo lag I guess. I mean, once they're spinning I don't see why they woul... : zerofunk
      • The ones you see on ebay are just dinky little fans that don't do shit. Total scam. My guess is they "e... : Prozium
    • I'd imagine, like I said, I've nver heard of anyone trying this and I'm sure there's a reason no one has.... : CSParsons
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    well ford diesel trucks user "electric-assisted turbos", basically the fins on the turbo are electrically... : digitalburro
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      So it varies the angle of the impeller blades? That makes alot more sense, allowing constantly varying bl... : CSParsons
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        yes, that's exactly what it does--varys the angle of the blades, so the turbos are more effective with le... : digitalburro
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          That just sounds like adding a metric fuckton of complexity to something that isnt cheap to replace. : alcaron
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            well if ford's doing it, they obviously figured out a cheap way to pull it off :) : digitalburro
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              05 Stang GT rules! : EvilDolemite
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                You mis-spelled Corvette.... Thats right fucker, I said it. : alcaron
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                  05 Vette rules, too! I can't believe I like two new Ford and Chevy vehicles, ick :( : EvilDolemite
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                    I actually got next to a 05 C6 on the highway yesterday, but he wasn't up for any "games" :( : digitalburro
                    • good, i hate it when people do that crap. : kevp
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                    You know, I would LOVE the new mustang if anyone but Ford's name was on it....I know WAAAAAAAAAAAAY too m... : alcaron
                    • The new 'Stang is based on a whole other platform though. They finally got rid of the horrid one. : EvilDolemite
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                      I had a 98 and 02 mustang, neither had a single problem or quirk. Not that it DOESN'T happen, just in my... : digitalburro
                      • This is true of most makes. All the GM hate, I've had many a GM with no major issues. : FormerHPB
            • uh oh, fords doing it, which means it DEFINITELY wont last for shit.... : alcaron
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    that's just fancy talk for hair dryers. gotta come out of that car looking good. : edgewise
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      what is the "hairdryer" you speak of? : digitalburro
      • haha. just after I posted it, I though, "Damn, I should have used that as a reply to burro and said, "Tha... : edgewise
• needs more R-34, a shitload more : xwer
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  sequential is the perfect marriage of manual shifting (driver is the boss) and electronical engineering m... : rookieone
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    I would have to disagree....the draw of manuals isnt, to me and lots of others, as much about shaving .01... : alcaron
    • I had to drive my wife's auto this week and I was surprised at how disconnected I felt with the road. I ... : EvilDolemite
• Please let the aftermarket scene for fiberglass be available immediately : Downforce
• What is the price looking like? : EvilDolemite
• Here's some commentary & Q&A for you! Since a lot of people are asking questions that would be better : jrock
• OMG. This is completely ridiculous. That looks like a fucking Audi... argh. RIP Skyline :'( : mystifier
• best skyline concept http://www.151boost.com/pix/car_images/images/Prototype%20Nissan%20Skyline%20GT-R... : evil-cow

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• hahahahahahahahaha fuck. That's so awesome. : darweidu
• Haha, that's awesome. : Sexpansion Pack
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  Well that explains some of the monsters : pigvomit
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    http://www.shacknews.com/ja.zz?id=9035552 like which? : darweidu
    • The only one I kept thinking of was the Testicle Rhino in XEN towards the end of Half-Life 1. : tomservo
    • Bullsquid http://www.planethalflife.com/blueshift/images/bullsquid.jpg : al9000
• holy shit, that rocks : sammyl
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  thats great - i dont seem to remember any monster like this though. : spector
  • hl2: cocklobster : grimiv
• heh. great read. thanks. : mindmann
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  That explains what the headcrabs actually do to your face. : Wyvern
  • Try to mate with with your head...unsuccessfully. : sammyl
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  Do you have a link to the article? : byorn
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    it's a snippit from the artbook iirc, you'd have to buy it to see the rest, copyright etc : Gauss
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      Is that the raising the bar book? Or some othet one? : sammyl
      • It's from the Raising the Bar book. The book is well worth it if you are a fan of Valve/Half-Life. The... : gendail
• oh man, thats awesome : Degenerate
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  That explains the nutsac monster and headcrab skullfucking. : genjuro
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    and the giant tenticles + dangly ceiling monsters. : pigvomit
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      and the cocklobsters in the ATI source demo thingy : darweidu
      • pics? : sammyl
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  hang on...if Ted Backman's the one telling the story, who's the Ted in the story? : ghale
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    That's his penis. : snuff
    • lol! : edgewise
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    I thought Ted was the guy who is telling the story's friend. : lakren
    • The story has a friend, too? This is all too confusing! : ghale
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    You. The person actually reading the story is Gabe Newell. : 60days
    • *Gabe Newell's head explodes* : darweidu
    • woah! : pigvomit
    • So Gabe refers to himself in 1st- and 3rd-person interchangeably? And "Ted Backman on HL1" is just a red ... : ghale
    • no you are GORDON! : jaffacake
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    The G-Man is telling the story, You're Gordon Freeman, and Ted is the artist. : roushimsx
    • Who's on first? : Ebu
• it all makes so much sense now. : Thud
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  You know, the big gun on the Strider is mounted underneath the main body in a rather pointed fashion... : Magitek
  • I wonder what the valve offices are like: Are the offices decorated with lots of elaborate pillars and ob... : darweidu
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  Airboat replaced with \8=====D/ in next steam update : lee majors
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    This post needs more love. : nomaad
    • It's been far too long since the shack saw it's last cockboat. :) : Psychic Potato
  • just think of how much more motion sickness a cockboat would cause! : sanchez
• O_O : rosewood
• I touched myself while reading that : freakord
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  So whos the artist, did I miss it in the quote? : not work safe
  • Ted : joekamel
  • The artist is Ted Backman, the post has miscredited the author. The person who is actually making these ... : gendail
• very funny. i love stories like this :D : SlamDunk
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  wheres this from? : VegasX
  • http://www.shacknews.com/ja.zz?id=9035857 : gendail
• hahahaha : mr.sleepy
• this from the hardcover or paperback version? : VegasX

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• Valve wants you to WORK for yer story, boy! : SpaecKow
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  The game wont feed the player the story, you gotta find it out yourself. As evident by the GameSpot revie... : MrLonghair
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    then that's horrible gameplay design. half life is a shooter, not an rpg where you have to explore the e... : ^-SeaWolf-^
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      you had the choice on how to play... that's a bad thing? Play again! : rasputinreborn
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        i had a choice? where were the clues to tell me HEY WE'RE NOT TELLING YOU SHIT GO FIND IT ON YOUR OWN!! : ^-SeaWolf-^
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          http://www.shacknews.com/ja.zz?id=9038065 <- knows whats up anyway, remember hl1? that didn't throw st... : pyide
          • Yes, not every game need tell it's story the same way. People should encourage experimentation, instead o... : SpaecKow
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            i think that's a pretty bad way to set up the story. the story in hl1 was simply a big experiment on te... : ^-SeaWolf-^
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              play it again crybaby! :) : rasputinreborn
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                meh, too much energy required, i'm not a play through it again kind of person : ^-SeaWolf-^
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                  that sucks. a great game that actually offers real replay value (in this case, more story) and you can't?... : pyide
                  • maybe, i dunno. right now i'm too drained and frustrated to even consider it. : ^-SeaWolf-^
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              i feel the opposite. i highly enjoyed trying to figure it out on my and rather than having the plot & sto... : pyide
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                i don't need it jammed down my throat but i'd like some idea of what's going on. hell give me a plot lik... : ^-SeaWolf-^
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                  okay, think about all the levels you played and why you were led to those places.. was that not story? if... : pyide
                  • to be honest the only thing i got out of the game was that this breen guy is still working on teleportati : ^-SeaWolf-^
                • "You are a dude fighting shit" How's that for a story? : darweidu
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                  you are given the big picture. the aggregate details are left for you to discover. what i like about t... : cpt_gloval
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                    Spoilers? :( : dognose
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                      i'm sorry, nuke it if you want. i figured you wouldn't have gotten that deep into this thread if you hadn... : cpt_gloval
                      • Can't nuke it, and dunno if it's nukable anyway -- I get to play it this weekend! I'm blond, so I alread... : dognose
        • Well unlike that other big hyped FPS, you have choices to make and can take alternate paths and solve pro... : MrLonghair
        • right about when you didnt know what was going on should've been a clue... : mohmar
      • ^^ i agree. definitely want to play this again. to find stuff i missed and take my time instead of rushin... : pyide
    • I walked away from the game with spaghetti legs after the ending, when every piece of the puzzle had been... : MrLonghair
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  The ending is annoying, i'm sure they cut stuff out why have all those hopper bombs but only use them : fen boi
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    Yeah there was one Strider part that was in the videos that for sure wasn't in the game. Also the tentacl : NastyJack
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      There are some creatures you see later in the game you can't fight. Think the about the last time you're : ArtilleryMarker
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        Yeah I saw that too. Not to mention the obvious, not getting to fight the "benefactors" themselves. : NastyJack
        • Yeah it seems at the end it made it look like you were going to have to teleport with breen and fight him : firehawk
  • I got the collectors edition which comes with a little book and explains some things. one notable thing : mikecyb
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  It's your fault if you don't get the story. : mrtony
  • Eh, not really. I spent plenty of time exploring the whole game and interacting with NPCs, and I'm still : CalamarDH
• So what was going on in the first Hl then? : stgdz
• people sure are defensive about hl2's story. while i haven't finished it yet, i do remember half-life di... : ermac
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  Yeah.. I just finished too and it was good, but I have absolutely no idea what the story was. It was kind : K1Bond007
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    HL1 ending: you teleport to Xen and defeat the boss (big floating alien with big head). Everything start : YamatoTwinkie
    • OMG... it still makes no sense. :( : K1Bond007
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  good voice work? you gotta be jokin. dont get me wrong - its an great game, but I found the voice acting ... : Rapid 99
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    Wow, I completely disagree. I can think of about 5 lines in the entire game that sounded awkward -- almos... : Magitek
    • not just you. The voice work was best of breed. : johnny rotten
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    do you play many games? the voicework had to be in the top 90% for a videogame. : cpt_gloval
    • what? are you kidding? see san andreas for good voice acting. : Rapid 99
• I just finished it too about 45 minutes ago. Looking at some of the other shack threads regarding it help... : sgtsanity
• Only sad thing is that I don't like Halo2's singleplayer now, after playing Half-Life 2. And its all b... : Magus

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• (names for a cute, tiny robot. the names themselves neither need to be cute nor tiny. okay maybe cute.) : wunderbred
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  mr roboto : toneh
  • :-/ : wunderbred
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    "Mr. Tony Orbit" :( : K1Bond007
    • doh.. owned by reply. Anyhoo.. it's an anagram! : K1Bond007
• fica : karlk79
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  Sprocket the Pocket Rocket : edlin
  • There's only one Sprocket the Pocket Rocket...am I right? :) : Ebu
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  You HAVE to use Cyrax : mr.sleepy
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    why? : wunderbred
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      Cyrax is the 2nd of three prototype cybernetic ninjas built by the Lin Kuei. Like his counterparts, his l... : mr.sleepy
      • awww, that's so cute : MurrayTheSkull
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        Zipzap :) : Dimecross
        • meant to reply to OP, dammit : Dimecross
      • Sheeva will kick Cyrax's ass any day of the week. : xstatik
• shmuck, moronica : r3ckless
• Zippy Sparky and Bob : jrock
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  Tiny Communist Robot : google
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    Slightly Leftist Robot : darweidu
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      average-size populist robot : CrimsonHandHiro
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        Mini Marxist Mecha? : Teiresias
        • Diminuitive Socialist Drone : steelsamurai
• dog : snuff
• trinket : psychobean
• Argon : jcutner
• Meepers : AllYourBase
• Cocknut : jahulio2
• ooh these are getting good! : wunderbred
• I-8U : Haku-Jin
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  Moon Unit : c0bra
  • Dweezil : jcutner
  • I *really* like this one for some reason. : wunderbred
• Player 1 : silent prophet
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  Number 5 : toneh
  • Johnny Number 5 : Mrc32
• Marvin. : ThereCanBeOnlyOneCat
• voltron : thejm4n
• Optimus Prime! : scrub6969
• Peenertron : Merconium
• Giganto-9000 : xenoeye
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  I think most here are just looking to have fun. Hell - the majority jumps from game to game like JLo doe... : kgargonmagrix79
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    But leveling a dozen character to the mid-20s is not fun! You don't get to real PvP and raid fun until hi... : Clay
    • Being good at a MMORPG requires a lot more time and dedication than most of us have :( . At the higher/e... : kgargonmagrix79
    • I had one char at level 18 and one at 11 and I had a blast with both. I don't see how it could get better... : AbortedFetusChristi
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      My rogue only got to level 19 and I was having more fun levelling than the (albeit horribly arranged) rai... : reign27
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        yeah being low level in a raid sucks... people were punching through me like I was smoke : snuff
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          It's not that I was low level, it's that the people who were running the raids were stupid. One raid into... : reign27
          • well, that comes with time & experience. : Clay
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            Oh yeah, this is SO annoying, many of the raids I went on went like this: 1. Raid! Raid! We're gonna r... : Psychic Potato
            • We had a designated raid party leader who lead us into the guard-infested PC-barren area, made no effort ... : reign27
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    Trust me, from playing the beta the fun-having is in raid groups and instance groups at high levels. Ther... : Dante
    • I thought it was a grind at lvl 12. Maybe I'm just mmorpg burnt out. Had/HAVE A Lvl 60 and lvl 65 on EQ... : kgargonmagrix79
• I'll go wherever everyone wants to go. I'm a follower :( : strider_
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  Whatever server we do join, it should not be one of the ones those guys are planning on joining! I don... : TroZ
  • I agree. I have no interest in competing with the hardcore guilds. I recognize some of those guild name... : Zakko
• I was going to go Alliance when I first started playing WoW, but I played an Undead Warrior during the op... : CA Flynn
• well, i'll wanna play Alliance. and Horde at some point. But i'd like to play with other shackers. Can w... : g0nk
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  That list isn't entirely accurate, Goon Squad is going central, I believe. : Zibro
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    someone should find this out for sure...I don't want us to run into another server population problem. ... : lordlobo
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      We should go west.. since those held up the best under heavy loads... and since I'm on the West Coast and... : snuff
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        I'm thinking that central servers might be a little overloaded now...maybe mountain? : sanchez
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          lolz, this same discussion is going on in the Goon Squad forums. : Zibro
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            Whatever they choose we should choose something else. The Goons have the same affect on mmo games that... : Psychic Potato
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              OTOH a Goon Squad + GCR raid would be a marvel to behold. Strength in numbers. :) : king_darius
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                And you'd have plenty of time to behold it, too, since each frame will be up on your screen for about 10 ... : reign27
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                  I never had any fps lag in any WoW raids, just server lag. : Zibro
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                    Seriously, if the goon squad changes timezones (all of them look pretty empty) I would not mind going on ... : sanchez
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                      Well, we were hovering around 500 on test4, and the Goon Squad on the central server I think was getting ... : Zibro
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                        500 GCR guild members?! Jesus Christ. I think the stress test had 100 and change. : king_darius
                        • he means 500 goon squad members, there were only about 80 on test4 in the ob : sanchez
                    • What's everyones beef with DiE. I grouped with them for some low-level quests ones or twice but I never R... : -efx-
• lol, this is someone's sig/guild: http://darph.prohosting.com/hordeisgay.jpg : captain hampton
• I totally agree with this post and would also like to add http://www.gcrobots.com/forum/ : lordlobo
• Spec-SiN here. as an added note, most of those people have been playing WoW since alpha or way early bet... : ]pm[chem
• We could dedicate ourselves to maxing out one character on one faction on one server, and then we can go ... : reign27
• Must.. resist.. :| : bamb
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  I still think we should have an official Alliance server that is different than the horde server. I don't... : sanchez
  • ^IAWTP^ : g0nk
  • I plan on playing alliance, so I can start up gcr on another server. : elizar
• I'm playing Horde but I plan on just having some fun for awhile. I don't think it matters if we're a huge... : Wyvern
• Another thing is that having plenty of people playing will keep the game going longer - we're notoriously... : Clay
• For me its really going to come down to what the wife wants to play... Im thinking she will go Dark Elf..... : Str8Dog
• I posted this list last night.. and about 5 minutes ago.. http://www.shacknews.com/ja.zz?id=9034059 : ingentis
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  Can you not have a Horde and Alliance character on the same server? : stonedonkey
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    Word is, not on PvP servers, but you can on PvE servers : reign27
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      I do not like this rule.. I guess the idea is you could log and tell people about incoming attacks? meh. : stonedonkey
      • Yeah it is a big deal. Nothing like storming a big city with 80 of your closest friends only to find the ... : d3tached
      • It's needed. But it doesn't stop anything. The h4rdc0re will have extra accounts, specifically to 'spy'. ... : Gauss
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  I agree with the lvl 99 Elite Clay. Strength in numbers. Organized guilds are going to crush everyon... : Downforce
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    I'm not trying to be a Nazi or anything, but I've done the uber-guild thing before and I've seen what wor... : Clay
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      I truly believe you're wrong. It'd seem that we'd have enough people to have fun and that would seem to b... : -efx-
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        You're free to have an opinion, but I'm simply telling you how this type of thing works. I don't know how... : Clay
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          I'd have to agree, I think it would be better for everyone to pick a side and everyone go with it. : asylumn
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            there's really no benefit in having everybody split up. aside from the barely noticable racial traits - t... : Clay
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              So why are you people so adamant about being Horde? : -efx-
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                Well there are more people that arbitrarily want to be horde than there are that arbitrarily want to be a... : Clay
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                  I'd consider switching if there wasn't a $15 fee every month. The reason I'm so adamant is that I've plan... : -efx-
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                    every alliance player wants to be a paladin : sanchez
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                      So? Every horde player wants to be a shaman. : -efx-
                      • Not me, ORC Warrior baby! :D : DM7
                  • I'm planning to play both sides. When I want a group or pvp I'll play my 'main' character with the Shack... : Zakko
        • I know you do. I played EQ and DAOC and SWG for a long time so I have experience to draw up on as well. : -efx-
    • Oh I know, this is just blatant logic. I don't mean to grandstand either, I'm agreeing with what you say ... : Downforce
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    What do you mean crush us? I don't understand what we 'lose' by having a city run amok for an hour. Is ra... : kevp
    • You get great, great benefits from being able to easily find groups whenever you want to adventure. : cajuncook
  • I agree, having everyone in one pool is going to make things a lot easier. Finding people near your level... : Magitek
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  So are we going to have a taxation scheme or whatnot? And professions, if we do have a number of raw... : trove
  • that's the type of thing you figure out later :P : Clay
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    I think it would be better if we share resources. If you wanna charge, fine. But I'll give out pots and... : lordlobo
    • Yeah, sometimes gathering is like that. Like finding stranglekelp for herbalism, it's not something you f... : Zibro
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      Are there houses? or housing? things like that? I didn't see it in the beta (up to lvl 9). : loboca
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        no, there no point in any guild donations right now...except to design the tabard : sanchez
        • yeah, guild halls and player housing will be post-launch, but I'd bet more on 1st expansion time frame, 9... : zipper76
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        I read in the forums a while back that housing is something being considered as a post-launch feature. : action roommate
        • If it's in the consideration stage then it's almost definately in the 12-24 month timeframe. Certainly n... : Zakko
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      True. I don't have a problem with that, I was mainly thinking of encouraging into shack cooperation. As... : trove
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        there are excellent ideas here. getting everybody bags would be awesome. maybe we should just req... : Clay
        • At cost would probably be the material costs : trove
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  I've got a better idea. You get a core group of Shackers who are interested in going hardcore pvp. The... : Magus
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    Also, you'll never get the Shack, as a whole, to play organized PvP at the level you want. We just need v : Magus
    • Read above. There are a lot more benefits to a large guild than just PvP. And on a PvP server, you aren't... : Magitek
    • I agree. Trying to compete with hardcore pvp guilds will kill GCR fast. Most will want to play casually, ... : johnny skidmarks
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    No. Make 1 guild for each faction on 2 servers. People who want to play horde play horde. People who w... : sanchez
    • Ah, I forgot about the rank thing. Ok, nevermind then. : Magus
    • Agree 107% : DM7
    • I agree here as well. Shack Alliance and Shack Horde. That is fine for the few folks that still are holdi... : Downforce
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  anyone getting the CE feel like giving me their 10 day trial thing? awesome. : lakren
  • i would give you my 10 day free one : clain
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  I'm going to play HORDE, and on a Central PVP server. That's what I'm doing and so should the shackers th : DM7
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    I agree. : Magitek
    • I'm sure we will have over 100 members even if some people go Alliance. And even that is alot. Let th : DM7
  • im in (i was thanatos on 15), and im sure my roomie raingo is as well. : the_doctor
• The counter argument is that there will be some shackers who will absolutely play alliance no matter how ... : tedv
• I'll be playing on multiple servers for the Shack for SA and for a guild with my beta buddies. : str8upkiller
• I say seperate server for both factions so we don't have to bother with shack vs shack. And regardless o... : Wombat Woo
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  I defiantly want to play PVP. I really don’t care what faction I play because I know I enjoy... : chuk
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    Or we could just let each person decide whoever the heck they want to be. And then have two servers each : DM7
    • Exactly. It really doesn't have to be more complicated than that. : -efx-
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      Separating us to four servers will defiantly spread us to thin. Biggest crew constantly playing will get ... : chuk
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        No no it's simple, have two servers for the shack to play on. One for Alliance, one for Horde. Odds are t... : DM7
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          Sorry if I seem edgy, I think it's some kind of withdrawal. If not for HL2 I would be banging my head aga... : chuk
          • haha I know, it's addicting! I'll have my pet zergling attack your pet. ;P : DM7
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  So, for being players up to speed... one big thing in Asheron's Call, when I played, was a thing called "... : Magus
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    Grouping with higher-level guys will lower experience gained. But I saw plenty of high-level guys escorti... : chuk
    • Also, having a low leveled guy hitting the monster first, and then having a high leveled guy killing it d... : Stage
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  OMG they are hardcore we have to beat them. WTF? Who the hell cares? We are here to have fun. This is... : Chod
  • Give the guy credit for trying to organize. : chuk
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    to some people getting to the high end and doing things before others do them is fun. Being the first gui... : armybob
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      I just don't like being told OMG we have to do this. No we don't have to do anything. It's everyones ch... : Chod
      • nobody is making you do anything i'm trying to get thing organized we can have more people do more fun st... : Clay
      • he's just tryign to rally people behind his ideas. He's not trying to dictate anything he just wants the ... : armybob