Counter-Strike Update Plans

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• *crickets chirping* : Cygnus X-1
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  eermmm but they DO make use of the new tech. : red2lucas
  • mmm blocky levels and some garbage. NICE : scrub6969
• Didn't you read? They're working on an original map. And, uh, most of the remade maps do make use of the ... : Terpfen
• ill agree about having a new death match mode.. i hope they add this in later : ballystix

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  As much love a faster video would be, its the # of entities that the game is processing that is hurting. ... : VashTheStampede
  • i disagree.. I get 85 - 120 fps on my 6800GT, my CPU is only a AMD 2800 @ 2.08ghz : ShadowRam
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  tried the beta 8-07 ati drivers? x800xt-pe using those drivers gave me a large fps boost. : camp3r
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    Where would one find such drivers? : orgcaptainnemo
    • http://www2.ati.com/drivers/hotfix/wxp-w2k-8-07-018380E.exe : camp3r
• performance is great for me, p4 3.4ghz and a 9800pro. I get 95fps in the timedemo with 2x aa\4x af with... : aggressor

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  OMG..one of the old-school players...I agree 100%. Fun > "competition"...and i remember these days. Hey..... : perforierer
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    Yup. Started ~2.0 or 3.0..can't remember..it was back when they had the goldeneye map, and a few other m... : deathofrats
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      the goldeneye map rocked! facility, was it? : pilgrimage
      • hmm..i think so. I just remember they originally had it where the terrorists could camp themselves in a ... : deathofrats
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  Yeah but you "fun guys" are the ones who quit CS years ago, and never came back. Then you bashed the shit... : bozer
  • up until I dropped my internet connection, I still played CS. The problem with the 'balanced' maps is th... : deathofrats
  • There is a missunderstanding: I like dust2, prodigy and some other maps too! But the new maps are borinf... : perforierer

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  with arabs looking like arabs not like mexicans : Don Juan DeNerdo
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    who said T's or CT's are Arab's? : ShadowRam
    • well... Leet Crew skin is labeled Arab in old CS. : Don Juan DeNerdo

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• or hell, when you come into contact with ANYTHING. even a doorway or table or whatever. ugh : Ziggurat
• Bouncing off objects like chairs and barrels. In Office, it is so easy to create an impregnable fortress ... : Terpfen
• Knowing that people with top of the line systems are going to kick the shit out of me regardless of my in... : zeecog

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• Ah yes, another of my favorite maps that no one seemed to like. That and backalley and zoption... 747 cou... : SatansFist
• oh yeah! i loved that map :( pure shotgun powar : OverBurN
• that map was tons of fun. CQB at its best. : Madwacker
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  Utter junk. Camper's delight. No thanks! : wendigo
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    Well...what else are you supposed to do on a 747 with tons of seats? You camp out and then the SpecOps co... : Madwacker
    • actually what you're supposed to do is disconnect and find another server playing a real map, camper! : wendigo
• 747 was a really cool map in my opinion. Really original idea. : zeecog

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• Turn down some of the lighting and shader effects, it really helps fps. : VashTheStampede
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  heh i run a ti4200 and on default settings and it runs like butter. : clain
  • ya if your butter is choppy....Perhaps you dont know what butter actually runs like.. : SnatchBlaster
• Netcode sucks cock, yes. Also, physics rapes cpu so frames r teh suck. Yay for new tech. : headless
• Turn off voicechat. Never turn it on again. Pud problem 75% solved. As for the system specs, my 960... : rotten element
• I have the same good experience with a 40 or 100 ping. Netcodes fine for me. ANy serious gamer should ha... : Cygnus X-1
• Torgo, It's most likely your game quality settings, as suggested try turning them down. The other thing ... : ezanga
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  Athlon64 3200, 512mb Radeon 9800 Pro, runs smooth as silk 100fps in the stress test 1024 max settings, ch... : chrisxtreme
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    the intiail chug is because of the sound system. sounds dont preload, so the first time you hear any soun... : johnny skidmarks
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      cl_forcepreload 1 : TrptJim
      • Sweet. I'll have to try this! : johnny skidmarks
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  I have the same system. 1024x768 with everything on=95fps in the source timedemo, and CS runs between 60 ... : aggressor
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    What the... I have an Athlon64 3000+ 1gig ram and 6800GT, get only 70-85 fps on the stress test no matter... : derrud
    • ya think someones e-penis is on a prescription of viagra? : Power-Glide
• Get used to sometimes having to trawl through anything upto 5 servers (or more) to find a group of people... : SpiderMonkey

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• Fuck fucking Oilrig, that map was a rape fest. : orgcaptainnemo
• add backalley to that list and you have my vote. : d3tached

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• I remember that shit. Those carts made the game feel like some slapstick comedy. : tigeN
• haha, that map was comedy fun. good for sniping too. : khaosman

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  I guess I missed that in the game because I have no latency issues.... Sounds like its on your end bud... : SatansFist
  • its not latency im worried about, i ping 20ms to a lot of servers : OverBurN
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    http://www.shacknews.com/ja.zz?id=8852462 : OverBurN
    • Doesn't sound much different than CS 1.6 but yea... would be nice to fix those small issues.. : SatansFist
    • Sounds like they ported over the BS "shot after already behind cover" from CS pretty well. Sadly. I remem... : jrock
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      I'd rather hear Yahn's comments before jacking with my rates, the game feels fine to me... and I thought ... : rockerbsf
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        he's saying to set them to 100/100, which would cause some decent choke, which would then cause packets t... : rockerbsf
        • If you're getting choke, lower your updaterate until it's fine. The guy in the post isnt' saying you have... : TrptJim
  • you should read the numerous posts on steampowered.com about the netcode. yes i know there are a bunch of... : eldiablo01
  • No way.. play quake3 then go back and try it. Even with sub 50 pings you can skip around a bit or get st... : Pneum0
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  Theres a major problem when you try to hug walls (stand next to walls). You get this sort of rubber bandi... : bozer
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    ugh, bouncing off objects cuz of the physics engine pisses me off, i've been killed a few times cuz i bou... : OverBurN
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      I think bozer is talking about the the wall in aztec, near the CT bridge room, the wall next to the ramp ... : TrptJim
      • Nope. Its all walls. Hug any wall and walk along it. You'll see. : bozer
• we should start a petition and send it to valve :( : OverBurN
• Or how about fixing the crosshairs? That alone drives me crazy.... : dkrulz
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  try cl_updaterate 60 and cl_cmdrate 60 along with rate 10000 if you're on a good connect, and you should ... : nuknuk
  • Try messing with cl_interp. Default is .01, and gives that laggish feeling between the model and the hitb... : TrptJim

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• yeah, seriously WTF i want hi-poly chickens : dopefish
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  petition time! : lord_omega
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    http://www.petitiononline.com/bbtc/ : reign27
    • Hahah. SIGNED! : deadbydawn
• Fraggers for Fowl! : d fluke
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  with bumpmapped feathers and eyes that reflect the map like the gun scopes and bottles lying around : krakhead420
  • beedy. little. evil. eyes. : d fluke
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  chickens? wtf worst source complaint ever. : pyide
  • Dude..... the chickens made that map! : Ride-My-Rocket
• hehe... http://www.bringbackthechickens.tk/ : SilverSnake

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  IAWTP. But when the map editor is released, somebody definitely will. : falkan
  • they will, but a valve supported, public release would be much much much more popular.. : lingo

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  Am I the only person who absolutely loved oil rig? That'd be pretty sweet with improved poly counts. I... : kungfusquirrel
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    heh its ok as a T, then if you get a lucky spawn you can drop in 2ft from the VIP and mow them down with ... : Turd Ferguson
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      I loved (as a CT) hopping up the railing onto the ledge where the vent came down from the top, then follo... : kungfusquirrel
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        it was always fun as a T catching someone in that pool with the crane in it. : tcxsnoop
        • Speaking of the pool, how badass would it be with Source's water effects? :) : bounty838
  • Oilrig was the best map. Ever. :( : indosauros
  • Oilrig was quite fun. However my all time favorite map has to be zoption... BRING IT BACK POOR YURIK! : SatansFist
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    as_oilrig was the SECOND greatest map. as_highrise was the first. : wendigo
    • omg highrise! memories.... these maps must come out plz :( : OverBurN
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      ah yes, highrise! That was a decent map... Speaking of es maps... what about the snow one? That one wa... : SatansFist
      • err as_ maps... not es.... : SatansFist
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  i want that golden eye map, damn that thing was fun. : eldiablo01
  • Yeah that was a cool map IIRC. Shame they took it out. I think it was because there were some major campi... : SatansFist
• Modificated siege and assault...that would be great. :) : perforierer
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  The escape map where you're in a subway was awesome, i loved that map : b00g
  • es_frantic and es_jail were fun but I guess escape game never took off. Is it still in the regular CS or ... : tigeN
• es_frantic was the best. YES IT WAS SHUT UP. : narby100
• they really need to redo assault : snowwolf

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• Its got some interesting sections that should be nice graphically. : yourname00
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  Prodigy's only downfalls (in my opinion) are the severity of its choke points - it can be very CT sided w... : omnova
  • Uhh this is totally wrong? With small teams it is EASIER for the Ts to overrun the hall choke point. In a... : mallrice
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  Was inferno the one where the bomb spots were in areas filled with crates? I can't think of a better way... : grendel
  • That is correct. : pilgrimage
  • http://www.counter-strike.net/maps.html yeah inferno was the one i loved! : grendel
  • It was the one that had major surgery on the original version to accomodate the shift in CS's gameplay fr... : SpiderMonkey
• yes inferno, nuke and train is all i need more : jamezj
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  I have no idea if inferno is being ported :( : narby100
  • :( sad panda : mallrice

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• Cs maps are just not as fun anymore compared to De maps. The hostages kind of suck, people camp like craz... : bozer
• Counter-Strike became Defuse-Strike. People eat male genitalia. : MrLonghair
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  Counter-Strike was all about rescuing the hosties. With the advent of de_ style maps, the cs_ gameplay w... : VashTheStampede
  • Well those hosties are kinda cheesy. I see de maps won by bomb a lot more than cs maps won by hostage res... : tigeN
• I like pre-politically correct CS, when the the name plate on the "house" of CS_Militia said "Weaver" in ... : ahk-med
• Yeah. A lot of funny old maps had to go..the new ones are NOT better... : perforierer

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• is that the one from like... CS 3.x with the hostages in that little mini bunker on the other side and th... : Madwacker
• lol omg ur old school. Bitch please! Of course I remember that map... Ts even had a machine gun near t... : SatansFist
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  How about gun running? Or FF was default, every map was dark and the models were almost identical. My... : VashTheStampede
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    hahah oh man, the memories... You hit a kevlar vest You hit a kevlar vest You hit a kevlar helmet ... : SatansFist
    • Who remembers the super gravity from beta 1? Fall 2 feet and die instantly, what fun! : Cpt. Baseballbat
    • Para sniping was good, then they wasted it, bad. It hardly does damage and you have a better chance with... : VashTheStampede
  • My fave is "Team report in!" ... and then hoping they do. (no "dead" indicator) I think that would ... : P-Squid
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  hah that's an oldie. isn't that the one where the skywalking exploit made the map completely unplayable : ^-SeaWolf-^
  • That was a very old version of assault You get a boot from a teammate, hope over a fence and swim to the... : VashTheStampede
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  Remember it? I made it! : timm
  • I love you : lordlobo
  • I actually liked that map. Decent choke points and wasn't confusing. Please port to Source. : VashTheStampede
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    I love you for teamjungle :) : te[R]ror
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      oh man, i loved that map. there are a lot of classic aq2 maps i'd love to see in cs :( : cygnus
      • I still play aq2 and teamjungle. I don't think aq2 maps would go well with cs, most wouldn't fit the gam... : te[R]ror
• I remember it ;) : flasher 907
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  it's all about cs_warehouse, bitches. : pilgrimage
  • Warehouse was teh bomb yo : SykelSeven
• Bring back an updated Docks please! : Sexpansion Pack
• I remember it. In fact, I have CS Beta 1 in a zipfile on my harddrive. Unfortunately I don't have the pro... : Delusional
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  I fondly remember banning skywalking idiots on that map. Also, all those gunruns by the end of every roun... : MrLonghair
  • I was just about to post something about bringing back cs_desert - that map ruled! That was back in th... : TabsAZ
• JEEPATHON2k DRIVEBY AWP'INGS thread closed gg : jane911

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• Very nice work. Sad. : pingpang99
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  I was all geared up to make fun of this, but these are actaully kinda cool. I agree, the clipping aspect... : ezanga
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    wow, if I didn't know those were from CS, I would have said that was some really awesome art...too bad : Practix
    • It's still creative, regardless of the source material (..no pun intended). I like it. : deathofrats
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  I really want to buy Dust 2 and hang it up in my gaming room : bozer
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    copyright infringements? is he selling this stuff? : b00g
    • Copy infringements? That's like saying I'd be stealing the eiffeltower because I included it in a paintin... : SilverSnake

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  cept for inferno, no excuse there : ShadowRam
  • it does have a door : deathofrats
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  office has a door : spector
  • thats not a REAL door, I'm talking about the swinging type Remeber the ones that caused so much problems... : ShadowRam
• train doesn't have any doors : jamezj
• Well you see, doors are difficult to program b/c well there's the closed door and the open door and the s... : flasher 907
• They're porting prodigy, that has doors. : Delusional
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  neither does inferno......... : bozer
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    inferno has a door... the right side middle pathway coming from T spawn connecting to that far right hall... : jamezj
    • You're right. I forgot because its so forgettable I guess : bozer
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  Doors suck gameplay wise. Since Quake 1 days devs have been shying away from using them in action FPS's. : MikkleThePickle
  • Bah... The doors are a real cool feature in Raven Shield... Doors belongs in games like there. : SilverSnake

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• (btw, APC forevar) : Bob422
• Siege was one of my favorites, it's a camping map, you can't just run around a building looking for an op... : rockerbsf
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  Siege + APC = BEST MAP EVAR! : ShadowRam
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    I AM A GREAT DRIVAR!!! : Turd Ferguson
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      *backs up against wall, puts APC in park* : rockerbsf
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        heh, or just drive off the fucking cliff there. : Turd Ferguson
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          actually, you'd just hang the rear end over the cliff so everyone was trapped. : Dimmona
          • This was better than backing into a wall, because it forced the passengers to choose : mallrice
  • lol that APC was so lame... would have been cool if you could drive into the base a bit more. I was ne... : SatansFist
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    The APC was stupid, cmon now. I remember countless times sniping the driver as he was coming! Also, the... : VashTheStampede
    • the APC was the greatest thing ever. : tcxsnoop
    • The best is if you could get the APC into the T parking garage. This actually was possible (assuming the ... : mallrice
  • I can handle my hard alchohol and amphetamines - sure I'm okay to drive! : BlitzMayhem
  • APC with new physics would RAWK. : deathofrats
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  Yeah the APC was a great idea...especially because you could run over and kill your whole team with it... : Bobthecow81
  • so much fun... : rockerbsf
• siege was the map that convinced me to get HL so i could download CS. so much fun, even when people play... : ^-SeaWolf-^
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  um if the T's played really defensively, it was very boring because they would just camp the garage entra... : jamezj
  • ditto. and then some CTs start hanging back trying to out-camp the Ts. : tigeN

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  considering they didn't make the original jeepathon, why would they port it over? : AllYourBase
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    Jeep2k was one of the CS maps, and it came either with 1.0 or after (can't remember). So valve certainly ... : mallrice
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      not necessarily, foption was in one of the builds but wasn't made by anyone at valve. just b/c they incl... : AllYourBase
      • Ok, technically they didn't make dust or dust2 either, but they updated them, because they have been pack... : mallrice

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• yea, train owns - gimme some of that plz kthnx : seankew
• That was the beta5 Barking Dog map, along with backalley, right? : ahk-med
• Yeah, I want train more than any of the others I think. : tigeN

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• You are my hero. : TrptJim
• de_Rally2 : ShadowRam

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• foption, lol.. : bozer
• docks was mad fun : CoRDS
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  Which was the one where CTs started having to cross a canyon (or go down the ramp to the bottom of it) an... : bounty838
  • That was Siege I think. : Evil Benius
  • Yeah, where you blow up a computer plant or whatever? Canyons + ramps = prodigy. : WaterSign
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    Nevermind, cs_siege it was. : bounty838
    • Siege pwons. It's also the only Beta 1 map (I believe) that is still in regular Counter-Strike even today... : Bob422
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  those are some boring maps. : rockerbsf
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    seige, foption, docks, and even nuke were the pinical of awesome maps in CS. These were the maps that I ... : DaMojo
    • omg begin cs_docks2k4 right... NOW! : the_algor
• I like your choices. I'll vote for you. : jrock
• OMG, NUKE! such good times... : abubu
• omg you did not just say foption... wow : jamezj

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• Some are great fun, can only get better with the Source engine : MrLonghair

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  Docks by far is my favorite classic, also they should port Iraq! : b00g
  • ^^^ and arabstreets :) : Delusional
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  as far as hostie vs bomb...the reason they may focus on bomb maps is because that is what drives the 'pro... : nuknuk
  • i think that if they made the awp more difficult to use instead of an undercover Q3 railgun the game woul : d0pamine
  • Militia could be fixed by having the terrorists spawn in the backyard or the sewer base instead of the ho... : Delusional

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  You mean as_ maps : dkrulz
  • ^^^ though I would like to see a sanctioned es map. : thekidd
• oilrig was great, except for the random terrorist spawns.. :P : Valiant

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• blah to the shield : psxtim
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  no more shield please... ct's are overpowered as it is : Don Juan DeNerdo
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    yah right, AK > all : Nullzero
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      m16 > ak : Don Juan DeNerdo
      • ....M4A1 but yeah its good for mid range as its accurate with longer bursts but still the AK owns at rang... : Turd Ferguson
    • not anymore.. The AK takes WAY to long to settle to shoot accuratly anymore.. its completely changed in ... : ShadowRam
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      If you fire off more than 1 shot with the AK you have to wait 30 minutes before you can shoot again with ... : SenorSpine
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        Eh, when I am doing good I can do 2 shot bursts with a decent space between them and its accurate enough... : Turd Ferguson
        • OK so I was exagerating a bit. Still if I'm carrying an AK and I see a M4 on the ground I always switch,... : SenorSpine
• thank God they didn't put them in : byorn
• if cts get shields.. then Ts should get dual uzis or a 100 round belt fed AK.. or something to that exten... : ballystix
• CZ shields are infinitely better than 1.6 shields. : dltrem
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  Auto-sniper rifles and awp need slight scope drift when standing. That is all. : Madwacker
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    I wish they would do something similar to the RTCW sniper rifles. they drift a lot when you first zoom i... : Turd Ferguson
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      ^IAWTP^ i would also like to see the auto sniper shoot slower. : d0pamine
      • doesn't really need to shoot slower, just needs some scope drift. If you're walking, you shouldn't be abl... : Madwacker
    • Yes, this makes sense, and would also stop a lot of the "jump through the air making headshots" that happ... : SenorSpine

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  valve may have a lot of people, but they are all divided amongst many products. UT2K4 consisted of a l... : DaMojo
  • oh yeah I totally understand this..I just don't see why it's not eve just two maps or 3. Just one individ... : VegasX
  • CS has so many map makers who never got any love in my opinion. Theres plenty of maps out there that they... : bozer
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  This is ridiculous. Valve has released a ton of free content for the original Half-Life, and the only rea... : Bob422
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    Im failry knowledgable of the development process of games and software as a whole. I've worked in develo... : VegasX
    • They never said they would only release one unique map total... They're just releasing one map for now an... : Gary the Llama
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      one unique and original map at the moment. hell, the game is only two weeks old (or hasn't even been rel... : pupismyname
      • and they're already coming out with additional content, with more on the way. and you complain? Well p... : SatansFist
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      The fact of the matter is that while these features might be standard today, they certainly weren't 6 yea... : Bob422
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        Well you learn something new every day...I thought valve spent energy buying mod teams to sell their work... : SnatchBlaster
        • I know. You have to buy Counter-Strike and Day of Defeat even if you own Half-Life. Wait a minute...no yo... : Bob422
• Making levels is not an inherently parallel task. At best, you can get two mappers or more to work on th... : SLUDGE^
• Because Valve is working on HL2 material, CS2, HL:S, the SDK, TF2 etc etc. : johnny rotten
• vavlve makes some great maps. I remember the front line force Lombardi map being one of my favorite on... : stgdz
• Many of the maps in UTxx were made by contracted mappers, and there are a TON of great freelance UT mappe... : omnova

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  Some map where you start outside near a CT van, I think hostages were involved. That was always crazy fun : Evil Benius
  • oh right... assault. I was thinking lesser known maps :P : Delusional
  • Assault was a awesome map. I always loved randomly shooting the duct work and see a +300 pop up on my d... : stgdz
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  Thunder is the 2nd one... I think... Bank(?) might be the 3rd one. : Delusional
  • I LOVED thunder.. It didn't make the cut :/ : ShadowRam
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  lol I remember nuke now. That map was rad. : Odoyle
  • Nuke would also make a neat Source port, I agree. : bounty838
• cs_torn lol : rockerbsf

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• me too :D I want to recreate cs_concrete ! >:) : sparkly

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• roger that, : flasher 907