Painkiller Demo #3

Think my ban is up

much fun. Tried it out again now that i've traded out my ti4200 for a 6800 on my 3000+ and it runs great at 10x7 with everything maxed out. Love it!

first demo wouldn't run at anything above 640x480 with ALL details off and minimum draw distance. now that I have my girlfriend's geforce4ti, it works well at standard quality.
go me.

but alas, I didn't like it. too bad, it looked pretty. but the weapons and spawning monsters did nothing for me.

What the hell! The whole game is running is slow motion. It seems really stupid and easy when everything is moving at one half the speed it should be.

Dear DreamCatcher:

Please do something about the FPS problem some people, including me, are having. I know it's just a mere demo but if it reflects the latest patches, something must be done, right?

PLEASEEEEEEE!!!

now that I have a good video card I can appreciate this game...what website/store sells it for the cheapest?

So much potential ruined by shitty netcode and inexperienced developers.

:(

Finally a modern FPS that realizes that fast, furious, and unrealistic movement physics make a game more fun. Just imagine if Tekken or Soul Caliber had realistic physics, and they took out juggling combos, etc. Games are supposed to be fun, not necessarily realistic. Now, there should definitely be a sub-genre of realistic FPS games... but these days, the quest for realism seems to be at the expense of gameplay. Games like Doom, Doom 2, Quake, Serious Sam, and Painkiller show how fun unrealistic FPS games can be.

in my opinion painkiller is one of the greatest games of the last few years. its fast, fun and the weapons are inventive and satisfying.

and i think it shows that you really dont need a story or any sort of coherence between levels to make a FPS game enjoyable, all you really need is a satisfying response to firing your weapons :

- solid weapon feel so you actually feel like you are firing something and not just pointing and clicking, or that there is just a gun noise playing and a muzzle flash when you click.
- enemy and world physics so you actually feel like you are shooting something
- world interaction even on a basic level, so you can deliberately mess with the environment, and also provide one of the best immersive elements in FPS; having shots that dont hit the target accidently destroy something in the background/foreground
- dead enemies that are still affected by your actions. that may sound a bit morbid but the idea is that once dead, an enemy then becomes part of the environment that can be interacted with.

and then of course far cry proves that having those and then adding on a story and level coherence just adds further to the game.

and both of them prove that enemy AI and survival instinct isnt necessarily an important point, depending on the type of FPS that you are trying to create. if the point of the level is to kill everyone in it, as with say painkiller, then you almost dont want AI, because the idea is that the enemies are trying to kill you before you kill them. if the point of the game is to get to the end of the level, or complete an objective, then you want the enemies to be smart, so you have to deal with them constantly on the way to the objective. you want then to value their own lives and not just charge you; so they are always a threat even when standing a few feet from where you were trying to get to.

As always:

http://www.painkillerhell.com/

Site I made with screencaps and videos showing how to nab all secrets in game.

http://www.painkillerhell.com/index.php?screen=14 <-- Military Base secret locations and how to grab them

light blooms are the new lens flares

ERROR: Could not initialize Direct X 9 renderer.


every other game works on my computer........anyone know whats up?

nifty. I wonder if they'll retrofit the original game with these effects..probably not, but it looks great.

This updated version raped my computer harder than farcry, doom 3, and HL2 combined.

I can run all of the above really smooth with all the bells and whistles on, but this demo had some seriously shitty framerates (even though the auto-configure seemed to think I'd be able to handle it with everything on.)
Kinda funny considering how smooth the original Painkiller ran..

I have a 9700 pro on a 2.8C/1 GB Ram computer if anyone is curious.

Okay okay I'll try this game out. :D

Very cool. Looks sweet and runs like butter on my machine...

P4 3.2, GF6800

this game, kicks all sorts of ass.

it does everything I criticised as bad in CoD; but fuck me, the physics make the gunplay fun as shit.

Have they fixed the netcode yet?

Wow, that looks amazingly HOT with the new effects. I'm usually not one that likes the overdone bloom effect, but it was well done in T:V and I like it in the screenies. Can't wait to get home and try it out.

PCF/DC gunna release a patch for retail to add this to every map?

the military base level is cool.

It's been said before that bloom is the new lensflair, but I don't think that really does it justice. Almost every screenshot you see these days is covered from top to bottom in bloom effects.

I'm not saying they look BAD per se, it does give everything a sort of anti-aliased look, kind of softer and etheral, which is okay for some game, but not really appropriate for all. But it's just not realistic looking in the slightest. Unless you have vasaline smeared all over your glasses, or glaucoma, the world doesn't have a perpetual glowy... glow to it.

I guess I prefer the way that looks to the hard, aliased look we're used to in video games, but it's my sincere hope that the next generation of consoles (and hopefully game developers for the PC follow suit) forces every game to use at least 4X AA, and we'll finally be able to move away from smearing bloom effects over everything.

So what is the effect that we're seeing on the ground, that makes it look shiny and bumpy? That's not normal mapping is it? Is it some general shader effect?

just bought this game for $29.99, should be fun at that price.

Best tarmac ever?

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