On DOOM 3 Demo, Linux & Mac Versions

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• May have been what made them gunshy about the DVD release as well, just don't want to have several differ... : Carnivac
• Actually, I think id are just doing the sensible thing by only releasing one version of the game. There r... : protozone
• "they simply are bowing to the fact that most linux users don't buy software" I think it's more that ... : invalidat10n
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  contradicting yourself: "buy the PC version and simply download the linux binaries" "most linux use... : BadRespawn
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    Ok, I'll clarify that statement: Most linux users I know of (many), rarely buy ANY piece of software (... : VashTheStampede
    • "Most linux users I know of (many), rarely buy ANY piece of software (let alone games)." Indeed. I'm a... : Cpt. Baseballbat

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• u will be able to go to fry's on august 5 and pick up a copy. I have never in the last two years missed a... : d-man

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  yes, it's exactly like that. except Win98 isnt a kick ass game and floppies aren't CDs and 6 doesn't equa... : eskimo spy
  • and the game isnt 6 cd's from what we've read in the past. : doomed
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    You are correct, and my analogy is somewhat of a stretch. I was simply trying to support the idea that sp... : galvatron
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      Imagine an Id OS. Now that would be interesting. And violent, hopefully. ;D : eskimo spy
      • You can run a doom based system admin tool for linux, I forget the name and it allows you to control pro... : PenGone
    • oh no!!! (only) when you install you'll have to swap cd's twice or 3 times cry me a river : headless
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  It would make sense for the Mac version to be DVD only, any Mac that can run it should have DVD drive rig... : mojoald
  • pretty much, you're looking at the upper end G4 towers, the last revision G4 imacs, the last and curr... : Toraz Chryx
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    following your way of thinking, any PC that can run DOOM3 should have a DVD too : doomed
    • not necessarily : artillery
    • people can build an athlon64 w/ a gf6800 and just not bother with a dvd player because they have (a) a dv... : headless
    • No, because Macs that have enough display firepower to cope with Doom 3 have dvd rom (combo drives actual... : Toraz Chryx
  • Most big-name releases for OS X are on DVD only. UT2k4 and BF1942 both are. : jason bergman
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  DVDs are not as good as CDs for data. The CD has a much higher level of error correction and is much mor... : PenGone
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    what exactly do you mean by that.. if dvds aren't as good as cds why do 2 of the major console makers ... : pyide
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      He's write. DVD's were designed to hold massive amounts of data. But those little 1's and 0's are so clos... : adempha
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        that may be true, but if people take care of their discs like they should, how is this even a problem? ... : pyide
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          Move to Europe and feel the DVD love. Even if a game ships on CDs we'll most likely get it in a dvd-case ... : MrLonghair
          • i'll just import them like i've been doing. :) : pyide
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          It's not a conspiricy ... really. DVDs were designed to hold streaming video. It's data but corupting a ... : PenGone
          • Xbox games have been on dvd since it came out. There is no data problem on dvds. You can back up your p... : drjenk
          • #240, the "reliability" of DVDs with regard to streaming video has nothing to do with the DVD itself. It... : fisty
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      It's simple! CD's work in DVD players, DVD's don't play in CD players, case closed. : AtaR1
      • ... not that part, idiot :P : pyide

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  is this a spoiler? : ansuble
  • YES!...................... : swansong
  • Two words: OH YEAH. : NERodgers
• Hmmm juicy... : doomed
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  Naughty Naughty Kool-Aid : mrwolf710
  • Ever since I got Dane Cook's CD last year I have played online as the KoolAidMan. It is the best game nam... : Serpico74
• it appears Kool Aid Man has gone... COMMUNIST : Wolfanoz
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  That things scarier then a Hellknight :( : crinos
  • actually if I were playing the game, I think that would startle me more, because I wasn't expecting it. : invalidat10n
• Ingame clip of new monster. Note the use of HDR lighting, which has not been montioned at all up until no... : Serpico74
• now THAT would scare the shit out of me : cap n KRUNCH
• Wow, they never mentioned real time fluid dynamics in game before. : egg5hen
• OH YEAH! : Anti_dentite
• This is going to be my wallpaper for a very very long time. : Serpico74
• ummm... liquid physics : SlamDunk

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  Two levels] or so. : Kerath
  • damn it. Two levels or so. : Kerath
• who knows. But the first few levels probably have a lot of story elements in them, and it wouldn't be ter... : thecray
• Cause yo, that's how not good but, GREAT software is made. I've seen so many companies just throw shit o... : BonesShack

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  $299 best buy special? :) : johnny rotten
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    No actually, I wasn't that lucky. My brother sent it to as a gift from SF...My Fiance had already purchas... : swansong
    • yeesh, are $400 gifts the norm in your family? :) : johnny rotten
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  Check your messages : Serpico74
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    Sorry, it's sold.... gizmo of RA fame got dibs. Thanks for the inquiry. : swansong
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      Glad it went to a fellow clanmate,hope giz makes some new maps with it:)McP-Stoner : wildapil
      • Yeah, I hope he does well...He's not as limited anymore. Need to try to convince him to start it up again... : swansong
    • Bastard! ;) : Serpico74
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  Hlelo tahi! : jason e
  • bahah...BASTARD! : swansong
• Thanks fo bringin it by tonight Swan =) This card kicks butt : g1zm0

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  except they are, Quake 3 code was in the hands of the public FIRST on OSX.. hell, Doom3 got its first ... : Toraz Chryx
  • so you and the other couple of mac gamers will have to wait a bit. ;) : FormerHPB
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    It'll still probably be faster than when bungie ported their games to PC. : Turd Ferguson
    • Which is really fucking pathetic, considering bungie's history. : headless
    • even if it isnt, it'll work acceptably when it does. : Bali
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    boo fucking hoo. what a dumbass whine, you can't possibly mean that. just because they came out with some... : eskimo spy
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      What?, I can't possibly mean that they aren't bringing up the rear with OSX? except they are. Am I ... : Toraz Chryx
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        eeurhgh, not unraveling that double negative mess. plz rephrase bc I dont even know what yr saying there. : eskimo spy
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          The Mac version is trailing the other two, ergo it is being 'left behind' you guys seem to have 'left ... : Toraz Chryx
          • I'd be very interested in finding out the installed base of Mac users with suitable hardware to run DOOM3... : SiW73
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    Haha, want some cheese to go with that whine? You should know that their efforts are gonna be concentrat... : genjuro
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      no shit sherlock. You guys seem to be confusing an observation with a complaint. : Toraz Chryx
      • by "not left behind" i think he was referring to the fact that it's coming out for OSX at all. not many b... : jvox
      • I think you are. Left behind means it isn't coming with, and it is. : ansuble
  • I'd say that what we are seeing as far as release order is concerned is very tightly related to the sales : emcea
  • waaah. I'd say it's even now, myself. : Kryn
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    I see a lot of "boo fucking hoo" in response to this post. But the reality is that if id wanted to do a s... : phlavor
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      what's it like to work at Id software? /smirk : eskimo spy
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        How's living under a bridge working out for you? : phlavor
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          seriously, give me one concrete fact that supports your supposition that Id's projects and Blizzard's pro... : eskimo spy
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            Man, you're really pissy today. : Amadan
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              people without any real information making statements of "fact" out of thin air tends to do that to peopl... : eskimo spy
              • He never said the Blizzard and Id teams are the same. He simply said that if Id really wanted to they cou... : Anti_dentite
• I agree, all of 10 people should be happy now. : Leroy Da Playa

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• Look forward to you coming back when another FPS goes Gold. : Leroy Da Playa

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• For alot of games there are Loki installers for them. If you go to http://liflg.sourceforge.net/ You... : terracon

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• not to download illegal shit. :\ : eskimo spy
• Don't shoot the messenger please : dr_goatcabin
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  The alpha was leaked by ati and has some debugging code or something in it that makes it *very* slow, ie,... : coleco
  • I hope this is the case... : thebigbeefsandwhich
• jesus, that version was leaked 2(!!) years ago at e3 2002. If you disable sound it runs butter smooth on ... : Neech
• I'm sure things are quite different now : peter
• no that was a development version that was expecting to be run in 2gig of ram development environments (i... : johnny rotten
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  that alpha leak isnt even 5% of the game the final one will be graphically, audiably, performance wise ,e... : phinn
  • now that they've added more graphics it will slow more down. lol : g.lee
• That was an old, unoptimized build. : Kerath
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  you're a moron "my close friend" yeah bull shit... sorry I'm just pissed off : voodooraze
  • because you don't have it too? ;) : Holesinswiss

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• right now. : Leroy Da Playa
• It's not really that excitig of an article.... Iwas hoping for some more in depth info... was left fellin... : voodooraze

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• me too, no far cry'd plz : thebigbeefsandwhich
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  there was that entire "the game executable IS the editor" rhetoric back in 2001 or 2002, but I haven't re... : the archvile
  • Software Development Kit != map editor : yAak

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  Is it a Far Cry/Mario 3 checkpoint style save system, limited quicksaves per episode/level, or does it fe : jason e
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    agreed; one of the things that ruined Max Payne for me is how vital quicksave/quickload were in the game.... : the archvile
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      I never used the binocs. ;) : terath
      • whaaaat?? oh man, i was a binocular whore. : jvox
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    more like every 5 seconds... but you're always going to have some llamas whining that they can't finis... : derean
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      Far Cry'd : MrLonghair
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        FarCry was pretty bad on gotchas though; if you let a trigen even touch you, you lost all your armor, and... : the archvile
        • You know you there is a quicksave key combination property right? : peter
        • I found the game rather balanced most of the time, it only got a little tough in one place, but otherwise... : SpaecKow
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      Yea because those counterstrikers are always quicksaving and reloading. ::rolleyes:: : Cpt. Baseballbat
      • Read between the lines. smart guy : jason e
    • How CS has anything to do with your point is beyond me : bozer
  • I was hoping for quicksaves, but your comment raises a good point. : protozone
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  I don't know why people complain about Far Cry's checkpoint save system. I thought it was fairly liberal ... : sh3llsh0ck
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    they didn't put enough checkpoints in the later levels, especially Dam and Volcano. Some parts of those ... : the archvile
    • Bah, I got through the Dam/Volcano in about 5 tries in total. I don't know why that would bother ppl so ... : rabbit003
• ID has always been really generous about saves and cheats, etc. : Ben Barker
• i hope there is no quick save : SlamDunk

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• QUAKE II Engine'd : galvatron
• sadly, the 1st portion of yer comment is likley to be the way a lot of ppl get the game.befoire its even : r1cola

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  its in my soulcube. : johnny rotten
  • Can i see it? Can i? Please pretty please? : doomed
  • You mispelled KFC bucket. : Durandal07

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• Keyboard overlays for the 21st century? : SpiderMonkey
• http://www.avault.com/hardware/getreview.asp?review=zboard they like it a lot, i saw one at my local m... : pzilla
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  hmm, I don't really see it offering anything that a keyboard can't already do. We until they make : Turd Ferguson
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    This is the only reason it caught my eye, well that and I'm notorious for pressing the wrong button at th... : kaboomite
    • hmmm how do you type? My friend has one but no weird keyboard things like that just the basic windows on... : carazy
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  My Friend has one, its the worst pos ever, well maybe not ever but I don't like it. The space bar is spl... : carazy
  • same here - Fry's in Dallas has this... Very cheap feel to it. : g.lee

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  new day, new thread : pvtmike
  • http://www.shacknews.com/ja.zz?id=8166020 : SlamDunk
• Hair fall from head hits shoulder no thought. : frosty

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• Hehe you to bare the wounds of Q3. : frosty

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• "When it's done." is something to fear. : NFXFSX

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• bwahaha! Worst troll evar! : FormerHPB
• lol he's reaching : onji
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  You trolling son of a bitch! At the shack, we hate you and your HL2 shit... so take it elsewhere! DOOM 3 ... : protozone
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    What the hell is wrong with you boy? : Entity
    • Looks like a suicide attempt. Sad. Try harder, that permaban isn't going to come to you with weak ass tro... : eskimo spy
    • doom iii going gold, and the loss of the database cracked him, poor bloke : xilulus
• lol, good 1 : personaljesus
• Haha. Actually, it's a good idea. If you think about it, everyone who is willing to buy this game without... : S1ing B1ade
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  I hate to say it, but I'm with him (regardless of it being a troll) I want to know if my computer will b... : PenicillinX57
  • you should be able to figure that out after we all report in the first day of release. : sixfoot6
  • so STFU and DL the demo, then buy the game, the demo will be out shortly after the game hits shelves... ... : eskimo spy
  • Dude, I was joking. You're fucking crazy. : protozone
  • WAAAAAMMMBULANCE! ;) : Wolfanoz
  • so what are you saying? : personaljesus
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  lolololololololol i would buy a turd in a box if it had the id label on it. : mrspyral
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    AND WAS CALLED TEAM ARENA AMIRITE OLOLOLZ!! : johnny rotten
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      http://www.shacknews.com/ja.zz?id=8166584 : ansuble
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        :..( : johnny rotten
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          team arena was excellent, screw you id haters : Pneum0
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            It was fun and interesting for a little while. The gameplay got pretty boring though. I did play ... : Turd Ferguson
            • I always go for 'doubler' =) Scout was good for capping flags too. : Bali
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              kamikaze was so fun. HOLY SHIT was a nice touch too. : jet-poop
              • yeah, I got several 'HOLY SHIT's from Kamikaze =) : Turd Ferguson
          • i liked Team Arena. Apparently my all caps, netspeak was misinterpreted. :..( : johnny rotten

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  Everything recent seems to say it's going to be server/client and that the 4 player things is a designed ... : xenoeye
  • so they changed it back? When did this happen? : mc-fine

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• http://www.shacknews.com/ja.zz?id=8162245 : tommysgun

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• Quakecon - August 13th : swansong

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• hey, troll some more, it's very constructive!!!!!! : manero
• ITS FUNNY BECAUSE ITS...not. : johnny rotten
• ITS FUNNY BECAUSE ITS...true. : downrightevil

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  the game is client/server now, so they don't need it - but I think the low player limit is still in effec... : Postal
  • From what I hear the low player-limit is just the default settings. You'll be able to set it higher. : insta

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  Is August 3rd a holiday in the US? It should be. : protozone
  • August 2 is my bday. : carazy

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  the problem is people looking for imaginary problems. : eskimo spy
  • no shit! People should be happy the game's going to be out in a little more than two weeks. : Wolfanoz

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  m a n i a c m a n s i o n 2 ' d that would be very cool, actually :o : SlamDunk
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    Yeah.. on the marine's pda : rorshack
    • the original doom on the marine's pda *fap* *fap* *fap* : r3dn3ck

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  if so, that's no big deal. Just run it through wine and off you go. : johnny sanguine
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    chances are, the installer will be mainly just for very lazy end users, if previous releasse tell us anyt... : eskimo spy
    • Just like you said, i never install ID GAMES. Copy the data files plus exe file from CD to hard drive,... : doomed
    • the content/game engine/render was common to all platofrom and was contained in the one big pak0.pak file... : themelon
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    I'd rather not have to install WINE to install DOOM 3. : protozone
    • why not? I don't think there's a compelling reason not to have wine. : johnny sanguine
• probably not; Id game installers haven't used the Windows registry in a major way (aside from Team Arena'... : the archvile

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  http://www.planetzack.com/files/files/headachesofdoom.gif http://www.planetzack.com/files/files/marcho... : doomed
  • very good indeed : rorshack
  • great stuff :D : SlamDunk
  • haha, that just made my day... : needlez

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• Its probably going to be the same as the previous id games. Their binary will install the very basic run... : VashTheStampede

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  that would mean extra work, or maybe the release of a level or levels cut from the full game. : the archvile
  • Yeah, but it'd be something different and give the players of the full game something else to try out as ... : kaboomite

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• And with Bobby Prince music. : mulu
• I wouldn't mind the RTPatch system, either! Y-ModemG 4LIFE! : VashTheStampede

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• Its not just linux that has a problem its anything to do with X, so all *nix users are el toasto if you h... : VashTheStampede

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• Do you wait it better than this post? : ShadeOGreen
• i should check my texts before post then in internet.... : Turin Turambar
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  where was this said? : swoopx
  • it's informative'd on the main page. : headless
  • Bluesnews... : mulu