New 3dfx & Matrox Drivers

#38 Well spank my ass and call me charlie....
FUCK YOU 3DFX, YA COMMUNIST BASTARDS!! &^&*^$*^%#^()#$

Now im so confused im just gonna get them anyway.

Didn\'t notice much improvement over anything with the Matrox G400 drivers, probably my stupid MB and CPU (K6-2 400 anyone?)

A note to all you V3 owners who complain about driver support - Buy a Matrox card. With the exception of the G200\'s ICD lateness the drivers and cards have been rock solid.

#34 - anyone know how to fix the corrupted under rocket textures on longest yard? i\'m using wickedgl on v3-2000, almost highest quality settings (with bilinear and 16bit textures).

Well... after installing the latest version of WickedGL I was still seeing the same \"under rocket launcher texture corruption\" as you.
I then downloaded and installed the latest 3dfx drivers, while keeping the WickedGL mini driver in my Quake 3 directory. For some reason this solved all graphical glitches.
Hope this helps.

#40,
Man, take it easy. I meant no offensive to Mr. Gibson and I appreciate very much everything he\'s doing here for us...

This is the commentboard and all I wanted to comment is that sizes of files are exactly the same. I had no intention to argue with Mr.Gibson or try to change his opinion on that subject...

#39, and....?

you gotta be fuckin kidding me if you expect steve to start doing a size CRC on every single driver he ever links.

The guy busts his ass every day doing shit like calling activision to find out release dates, getting us sweet deals on games etc etc and all you can do is fucking bitch because 3dfx told steve they had new drivers and they arent?

Steve must be a pretty strong man, cuz god does he put up with a lot of bitching EVERY DAY.

but the size is exactly the same...

#36, thats a good question for 3dfx. they are the guys who emailed me saying \'new drivers\' so i check the page, and it says \'new drivers\' and lists opengl support as being updated. and yesterday\'s date.

call me crazy, but that was enough for me to call them new. i do agree that i am a retard though.. it\'s amazing i have the cognitive abilities to even punch keys on this keyboard.

#36, good point. But lay off the insults huh? Steve is not an idiot. Maaaaarten however... heh, just kidding =)

Stupid fucking idiots all these sites saying these drivers are new?
How can they be new when the version# hasnt changed?

Fuck, look into it before you post it.
Im so sick of sites just posting whatever comes into thier mailbox without actualy looking for themselves.

Every official and leaked retail detonator driver set is here!!! All of them!


http://www.xs4all.nl/~bmsmit/HTML/detonator/detonatorwin9x.html


BTW-also have a intel machine with a TNT2, using 3.62 for AMD Athlons but they work fine on intel based stuff. Quake3 and UT run and look good but for some reason NHL2000 runs like crap, everything else is cool. Also do those wickedGL drivers work on a V3 3500???

Just installed the drivers and there was zero change in Q2 timedemos for me. Q3 runs like shit on this system anyway (I won\'t post my specs for fear of being laughed at!), so I didn\'t even bother doing timedemos with it.

I typically ignore the nVidia vs. 3dfx BS that is so rampant on here these days, but why release drivers that don\'t address any of the *real* problems that people are reporting, esp. knowing that A) JohnC just criticized your drivers in a public forum and B) the full version of Q3 will be out in a week anyway (prob. meaning you\'ll have to release yet more drivers then)? Why not just wait those extra few days and then lie to us all when you release these drivers?

hey #26 got a copy of those drivers availabe?
i\'ve been looking for them

I play at the \"normal\" graphics settings, sometimes \"fast\" when I\'m online. Yes, that is 640x480x16. The V3\'s image quality seems a bit blurry at 800x600 and certainly doesn\'t give enough FPS for online play, but turning the texture detail to highest looks excellent. Framerate takes a massive hit (as low as 17 FPS for me in some cases) IF you\'ve turned gibs on. Do cg_gibs 0 and you\'ll take a much softer hit. I also turned off cg_drawattacker and some other crap I\'m sure I\'ve forgotten. Maybe I\'ll post my \"kickass\" config. heh. =) The weird thing about these drivers from 3dfx, they\'re still dated November 11 or something. I\'ll probably go with nVidia next time around--not because I don\'t like 3dfx, but because I think onboard T&L/high poly counts are neat ideas (15 million polys, anyone?) The T-Buffer seems disappointing.. Who the hell would WANT \"motion-blur\"? I for one, wouldn\'t. And the V5 5000 is PCI only? What the hell? Some sick marketing ploy? Ugh, I\'ve ranted enough.

I agree #24
earlier versions of the test had different demos for timedemo purposes so of course results between the two will be different with the demotest in terms of fps numbers, but there is definitely some big slowdown in certain situations now that didn\'t exist in earlie versions of the 3dfx v3 drivers
put your nose right up against a wall and fire the ssg
i drop from 100+ fps to 8-15
also, when firing either the plasma or the rl at a target while running towards the point of impact causes me to take a 50% drop in framerate when other models are onscreen.
I have a p3-550, 128mb v3-3000 system
I dont think its my cpu or ram
this latest batch of drivers dropped me anoher 4 fps in timedemo demo001.
the wickedgl helps alleviate some of these problems, especially \'stuttering\' and MAJOR rl trail and blood slowdowns, at the cost of some image quality and portals, but it\'s still present when it counts most: in a large battle. that the card is being held back due to a shit-brain infested driver development team at 3dfx is a real fuckin shame, and regretably I can now say that 3dfx has let me down for the 1st time.
v1 and v2 were kings in their time, but no matter the fill-rate, a card with shit drivers is worth very, very fucking little to someone who cares about high performance.

Shame on 3dfx for releasing the dung heap they call drivers. After farting around with these drivers I\'m going back to the driver release after the first retail one.

The funny thing is nvidia isn\'t the best in the world, even with that full staff of OpenGL guru\'s. But I think they rank 1st compared to the other crap floating around. Usually you can find leaked detonators and they are much better then the official release.


Anyone know a cheap place to buy a geforce ddr? or anyone want to buy a V3 3500?

#20 A friend has a TNT2 and when IÂ’ve played Q3 on his computer I havenÂ’t experienced any slow downs like with the V3. I also remember that the original Q3 compatible drivers ran lightmap without any sort of lagging/slow down effect. This only appeared with the release of later drivers, so I can only conclude itÂ’s an issue with the Voodoo 3 drivers. The 3 shader issue shouldnÂ’t cause the effects it does when you use vertex lighting on the V3 (33fps running demo001 with the default q3config only with vertex lighting on a PIII-550 160MB RAM, V3 3000).

IÂ’m went for the V3 over the TNT2 because all IÂ’m interested in is fps, but when the V3 canÂ’t supply either looks or fps something is very wrong. It would seem that drivers are more important than fill rate, and in this area nvidea is far better than 3dfx.

IÂ’ve totally lost confidence in 3dfx and I wonÂ’t be buying another one of their cards for some time to come.

I just canÂ’t wait for the Prophet 3D DDR to come out. If theyÂ’re not out in America, we probably wonÂ’t see them in the UK until way after Christmas :( IÂ’m tempted to buy the SDR version.

[Slay], you\'re breaking my heart over here.
I\'ve got a Voodoo3 3000 o/c\'d to 180MHz in a P3/500 with 192MB RAM and I still don\'t even come close to those kinda numbers!

You\'ve got to be leaving something out... What resolution do you run at? I run 8x6@50+fps (average) or 10x7@36-40. It drops off when someone explodes (unacceptably slow)

I\'m yanking the new drivers now, hopefully they\'ll speed things up a bit.

I\'ve noticed some slowdown when there are a lot of rockets on the screen (especially rockets thrown in your direction) but I thought this had something to do with 3 shaders being collapsed instead of 1, or something along those lines according to Carmack\'s .plan update some time ago. I didn\'t noticed any unacceptable slowdown with my PIII 600/V3 3000/160 SDRAM with 1.08, but 1.09 has some known slowdown problems. I don\'t think they are V3 related though; I could be wrong though.

#18 The framerate is fairly good, but thereÂ’s a bizarre effect when there are a few rockets on screen or when you get in most fights or when you enter a new room, particularly the lightening gun room. ItÂ’s like a lagging effect (not itÂ’s not my connection, it happens when I create a game on my PC). The mouse movement lags behind your movement, and the general action slows down. ItÂ’s not my processor cos I have a PIII-550 and my brother has an Athlon 600 and we both get the same problem.

In previous versions of Q3 test the problem could be solved by changing to vertex lighting, but in the demo test the problem is amplified to a shocking level when you change to vertex. Try vertex out and tell me if you get the action lagging behind the mouse effect.

This effect isnÂ’t just with Q3, I also noticed it in the Messiah demo.

3dfx canÂ’t produce drivers, so the fill rate on the Voodoo 5 will count for nothing when they supply their crap drivers with it.

I don\'t get it. What is wrong with 3dfx Voodoo3 drivers? I get solid performance (80 or more FPS) out of my Voodoo3, all the time, with any game, using the latest retail drivers.

From the 3dfx page:

What\'s new in 1.03.04:
1. Added kit that includes DirectX 7 runtime
2. Updated OpenGL support
3. Fixed desktop corruption issues
4. Fixed power management and screensaver issues

I\'m DLing them now, so we\'ll see what happens (if anything).

Stop your Hooliganism!

Er... sorry, wrong comment section. How \'bout this:

New Matrox drivers?!?!? Wooooooooooooohooooooooooooo!!

The truth is that we shouldn\'t speculate about a game that isn\'t out yet...

But hey, that wouldn\'t be no fun would it?

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#12

Very nice too bad those petition things dont work anymore in today\'s society...

3dfx has just gone to shit in the customer support department, half assed products and half assed drivers are perfect reasons Im gonna get a nvidia card now...

Yay, more shit drivers from 3dfx. When the hell is the Prophet 3D DDR going to be available in the UK. Is it available in the US? IÂ’ve had it on order here for two weeks but still nothing.

I canÂ’t put up with this piece of shit Voodoo 3 any longer. The people who write the V3 drivers must be mentally retarded.