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More Carmack on Privacy
by Steve Gibson, Nov 29, 1999 7:15am PSTJohn Carmack has made another posting on the /. forums addressing the privacy issue that came up late last night. John states that he thought the documentation was included in 1.09 (Since it was in 1.08, but somehow got lost) and here's a bit of what he says:
The most upstanding thing to do would be to have explicit UI that asks on installation if you don't mind sending your data when you play multiplayer games. I would consider that justified if we were sending a detailed system spec. That is something we may want to do in the future. Data like that is helpfull in making good development decisions. But this is just a driver string riding along with your game version. It just seems silly, like requiring you to acknowledge before leaving your house that someone might see you. I would rather have fixed a bug somewhere. I can see that it is a slipperly slope to be on, and I can easily project it to a scenario that I would be offended by, but I just can't convince myself that knowing the reletive distribution of different OpenGL implementations is violating people's rights.
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You just make-the-fuck sure you dont ever catch him playing then. If there\'s one thing I HATE, its bitch whiners who complain and call out for \"Boycott this\' Boycott that!\" and then 3 weeks later are playing/using whatever they were supposed to be boycotting. Either have the balls to back up what you say or sit down and stfu.
CTF is built into Q3. Duh.
Oh yeah, that wasn\'t just with QW. I had a \"llama fuck\" routine written
into the rcon code for my server back in the day. When someone was being a total ass
I could \"unbind all\" and \"quit\". Unbound all their keys and exited which
saved there config.cfg. Needless to say they didn\'t come back for awhile :)
FS
\"because I dont like the fact that they monitor everytime I play, and the game sends unsolicitated information about my computer back to id software for marketing.. without ever asking me.... its a violation of rights.. I am boycotting.\"
hahahahaahah
it would be interesting.
Hide what facts? Hide the fact that somebody at id didnt check to see
if the documentation was in order?
The only people being a dickhead here are you overly paranoid dumbasses who need to lay off the crack pipe and get a life. I remain unconvinced that you are capable of judging anyones morals.
There are more important things to get worked up over, like WHY DOES IT TAKE SLACTIVISION 3 WEEKS TO GET ME MY Q3A!!!
Now, back to the normally scheduled bickering...
Oh, wait. Different universe.
<crack>
Johnny 5 is alive! Johnny Carmack NEEDS INPUT! INPUT! INPUT! He can tell what resolution I\'m running whenever I authenticate against the id master server?! BASTARD!
Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You rape my registry. Prepare to die.
</crack>
The thing is, although there was a big mushroom nuclear explosion on his head, he was still alive! I threw a grenade at him, that ass bastard still came running, I bet he was pissed because he was moaning and stuff! He was so PO\'d he blew me up! I was like OMG! I\'m dead! So I went to another server..
thank you, come again!
illsDamascus (OMG)
- Johny Carmack
public nonlogging proxies are slow are shit most of the time. What do you gain by using one? The medal of paranoia.
You guys got something to hide?
Think you can??
Bwaahhaahaahaa!
[crickets]
Seeing how it was originally [and still is, for that matter] a test of network and rendering code, the interest in stats seems pretty understandable.
John Carmack wanting some video card information and version string for auto-updating is not the same thing as the government scanning every piece of email on the net looking for instances of \"Al, Gore, Felching, Allah, Bomb, Snowballing\" etc etc.
If there is anyone I think in the software industry that can be trusted to \"Do the Right Thing\" (tm), it\'s John Carmack.
That bunch of crazy assholes on /. screaming that this is a violation of their trust and their data can just slide their tongues in my \"all sweaty from working out\" asshole.
S.
I don\'t buy the \"slippery slope\" argument either... like id could (or would even want to) really get any more.
If they make the data PUBLIC then I\'ll forgive them. If they keep it to themselves that thats bad.