Warcraft 3 Expansion Beta Ends Soon

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Blizzard sends over a note announcing that the Warcraft 3: Frozen Throne beta is ending on Monday. Over the past few months some 30,000 people helped test and improve Battle.net and the expansion itself. Frozen Throne will be in stores July 1st.

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    June 25, 2003 12:27 PM

    So anyone here not NDA'd that can give thumbs up/down?

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      June 25, 2003 12:29 PM

      If you like WC3, it's thumbs up. If you thought WC3 was promising but not fun, it's thumbs up. If you think that heroes suck, it's thumbs down.

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      June 25, 2003 12:35 PM

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      June 25, 2003 12:52 PM

      From a hardcore RTS players perspective:

      Its meh. They made some really good changes, and there were a few patches where I thought "wow this is a lot better than vanilla". But now its almost like they've made too many changes. It just doesnt feel right. Theres lots of problems with War3 (mostly dealing with timing and economy) and I just dont think they are fixable with a few balance changes here and there. The problems are deeper and blizzard would need to completely rework the game to fix them. All the armor and attack type changes were a good idea, but it just makes the game feel like its all over the place. They tried to kinda add hard-counters, but they dont really do what they are suppose to. They lowered the gold given from creep and changed the town portals to encourage player interaction, but it still feels like you avoid the other player until one big decisive fight - which is bad for RTS games.

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        June 25, 2003 1:02 PM

        I've found more and more that if you wait to engage your opponent in TFT, you usually lose. There are so many options that if you aren't losing your tier 1 units in good early battles, your crappy early units will just get mauled by later stuff. There are so many options for how to play now that you can't just stick with the same thing every game, and the only way to know what to play is to engage your opponent early and often.

        I think TFT has really reworked WC3, which makes it a different game. I think you may just not be used to it, given how hardcore a WC3 player you used to (?) be.

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        June 25, 2003 2:05 PM

        ur hardcore

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        June 25, 2003 2:16 PM

        ^^IAWTP

        Beta testing the game made me lose serious interest in it unfortunately. I'm a hardcore WC3 fan. Hell I still play with my friends almost every night and I used to ladder very often. Some of the TFT changes really just turned me off though. I actually stopped playing a few patches ago when I got sick and tired of AOE dominance. Basically if you like the game for ladder you should probably seriously consider whether you want to spend the cash now for a meh product or wait until it's cheaper. If you just like to casually play I'd say the new units/art/tilesets etc, make it worth the $$$. Maybe not the release date price, but at some point later on.

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          June 25, 2003 2:34 PM

          AoE spells got nerfed pretty bad a few patches ago. It's not as AoE-centric anymore.

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      June 25, 2003 1:41 PM

      Improves upon War3 well, makes the game more fun and strategic. Keeps War3 as THE rts to get, there is no better out there right now...except maybe SC...

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        June 25, 2003 1:56 PM

        blizzard owns the rts genre, hands down, until war3 came out, the best rts was still starcraft.

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          June 25, 2003 4:59 PM

          I wish my SC cd wasn't scratched beyond repair. I really need to go pick up a new copy.

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