Breed Demo

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• 1.4 athlon, 192 MB ram, Radeon 8500... game ran fine at 1024x768... : GloriousCow
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  no shit. Every single fps I play, usually always has something wrong with it. Quake3 had the invisibility... : zero3
  • hehe, Valve fixed a bug in TFC similar to the MOHAA one, and the fix was years ago. : the archvile
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  http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=9431 It's the game technology lag And it's not abou... : The Key
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    I just find it interesting my 400mhz gamecube with sub GeForce3 technology pumps out smoother animation a... : SERIOUSly the SAMe
    • The basic issue here is that PC programmers have to target a huge variety of hardware configurations at a... : wbagwell
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      That Gamecube has a SGI processor.. We're not talking your normal x86 processor. Intel != AMD != Powe... : loco3kgt
      • It's a PowerPC genious. Still were talking 2ghz vs 400mhz. : SERIOUSly the SAMe
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  Nice sweeping generalization about a subject that you seem to know little about. : Fred Garvin
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    Fred go download your latest PC game and tell me how great the animation and framerate is. IMO it is subp... : SERIOUSly the SAMe
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      Yeah, your poor performance experience is indicative of all PC programmers. We had instances where 2 seem... : Fred Garvin
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        Don't take it personal Fred i'm not slamming against you, i don't even know wtf your working on (if you a... : SERIOUSly the SAMe
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          The average PC programmer isnt given enough time and resources to do a kick ass job. And they're working ... : Topaz
          • How do you know they don't get enough time? I understand the non static platform but I personally feel it... : SERIOUSly the SAMe
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          I'm not taking it personally, I just think you are off the mark. There are so many variables involved and... : Fred Garvin
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            Ok well take my example about the breed demo. From what i've seen UT2k3 pushes as much if not more detail then this game but runs a lot smoother. This is not the only case where I see this happening. So if it is not lazy programming or sub par skill what else could it be? I guess how do you explain what could be up to 2x performance difference for the same detail if its NOT programming?

            May 23, 2003 2:35pm PDT
            Ok well take my example about the breed demo. From what i've seen UT2k3 pushes as much if not more detail... : SERIOUSly the SAMe
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            *Gamegoof waves at fellow game dev and laughs* Dont you just love this industry? And know-it-all fans ... : gamegoof
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              hahahahahah look at my example and please explain it to me then. And say what you will about me not kn... : SERIOUSly the SAMe
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                I'm not a dev, but how the fuck do you know what data is being processed in Breed compared to UT2k3 or an... : Sludgehead
                • er, does=doesn't : Sludgehead
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                  Yes that is possible, but from MY EXPERIENCE of playing breed, I don't see what could be making it run 50... : SERIOUSly the SAMe
                  • I understand that but just because you don't see what could be doing it doesn't mean it's crap code. I h... : Sludgehead
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                Depends what the engine is trying to do. How does the lighting work, what's the AI doing, when do resourc... : Fred Garvin
                • Marketing and publishers will be the absolute DEATH of the PC games industry. My take on it? Time for ind... : three-d
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                Man, it could be ANYTHING -Maybe UT is using DX8, and Breed is using DX9, pushing more polygons that ... : gamegoof
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                  Angry rant doesnt read too well second time around... oh well : gamegoof
                  • i thought it was a good read. Get back to building that world! : ease_one
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              and if you must know, i know people at interplay & nihilistic. Interplay who makes PC and console games (... : SERIOUSly the SAMe
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                Interplay is a publisher for the most part. Pretty well any engine they use internally comes from elsewhe... : Fred Garvin
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                  When i say interplay I mean multiple people at blackisle, and older people who no longer work for bioware... : SERIOUSly the SAMe
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                    Dude, you realize that Black Isle is in California and BioWare is in Alberta, Canada right? : Fred Garvin
                    • Yes i do, people who used to work at bioware are allowed to move right? : SERIOUSly the SAMe
                    • I live in california just a fyi. An old friend of mine moved up north to work at nihilistic back in the v... : SERIOUSly the SAMe
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  DirectX usually promotes laziness... Of course, there are exceptions. : Colin Higgins
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    How do you come to this conclusion? APIs promote laziness in general or just DX? Would you prefer everyth... : Fred Garvin
    • I don't believe it is API's. No way games today can be written in 100% assembly. But there is no "general... : SERIOUSly the SAMe
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      Well, personally, I figure if the developer can code in Assembly, he's probably a decent coder. Anybody c... : Colin Higgins
      • That's such a blatant oversimplification. If anyone can do it then point me to your full featured DX grap... : Fred Garvin
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  I was about to say that maybe it's just VERY HARD to make games today and there aren't that many people c... : gl2 drivers
  • man that's such a stupid argument gl2. Are you a director, screenwriter in real life? My guess is no yet ... : SERIOUSly the SAMe
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  Marketing logic: cool stuff/shots > fps. You can rationalize that people will have faster computers one ... : P-Squid
  • Ya I feel that is a part of it, however isn't the PC market slipping in sales the last year? I thought i ... : SERIOUSly the SAMe
  • I'm not so sure the avg. gamer notices. We're the hardcore crowd, we notice stuff in the blink of an eye.... : Madwacker
  • or that once you sell the product you already have their money so who cares? : ease_one
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  This is getting to be quite the argument. I see what Seriously is trying to say, and I have to agree that... : ieGod
  • Thank you iegod. That is exactly what i'm trying to say. It is NOT just hardware setup. CLEARLY good prog... : SERIOUSly the SAMe
  • Same thing with consoles. Some games with little AI, simple gameplay and not a lot of variety in textures... : Fred Garvin
• I think game developers should just work harder. I mean If they would just stop sleeping maybe there wou... : ease_one