DOOM 3 Q&A

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  good luck seeing that soon. 4 player tf doesnt look too appealing. : yautja
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    ... the 4 player limit was because id is choosing to design their multiplayer maps for 4 or fewer play... : jet-poop
    • the engine is, but the computers aren't. : yautja
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      it matters not, all players must be connected before a game starts. Insta crap for online mods consideri... : ease_one
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        its doom style you idiot : lingo
        • how many people want to play doom? i thought this was doom3? : ease_one
    • the engine is perfectly capable of handling more players than that. I thought because of the lighting... : Stormrider
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      I don't think this is true, first of all, if it was true why the hell make all the maps only 4 player? ... : gl2 drivers
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        Tim Willits: It's very early in the planning and development stages of multiplayer, but we know that it i... : jet-poop
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          you forgot something: the Starcraft/Warcraft line is a series of RTS games, where it's given that all pla... : the archvile
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            i didn't forget. obviously doom3 will not be customary. what i was saying was, the player's inability ... : jet-poop
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              this is not an RTS in a sea of RTS games. This is a FPS in a sea of FPS games that do multiplayer RIGHT.... : ease_one
              • you can join mid-game in diablo2, but few people do (at least, when i played briefly), because it's more ... : jet-poop
• 2 F O R T 5 ' D : rorshack

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• Eh, the little birdy tells me it's pretty interactive. The physics engine has realism to a certain point... : dr. beckett
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  It was very interactive. You could move objects like chairs or tables. I had a fun time shooting boxes an... : beefcake01
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    I tried forever to duplicate getting one of the zombies to fall/roll down the stairs like in the bootleg ... : dr. beckett
    • I never had an issue getting him to do that.. took a nice 800x600 video of it at 30fps once, actually. Bu... : Dslyecxi
    • I'm pleasantly surprised that id developed such a robust physics system. Most game companies with such a... : ltrls987
• Actually, the alpha sucked.. It was a working build. To tell you how well it performed enviromentally wou... : VlBuLLgOd
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  Ugh it wasn't very interactive at all, it was the interactivity of doom1 + very nice graphics + boxes tha... : gl2 drivers
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    that sucks.. :( After playing games like thief and deus ex, I find that I have a hard time playing gam... : ltrls987
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      I with you totally, but i'm just saying what the alpha was like, maybe things have changed, but I wouldn'... : gl2 drivers
      • Eh.. Thief is my favorite game, but I think you are mis-remembering exactly how interactive that game was... : sheff
    • Duke 3D my friend.. Duke 3D I just saw a post by someone mentioning the light switches FUCK I forgot ... : 4ge
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      Keep in mind that it was a leaked alpha made specifically for the E3 demo. There were LOTS of things in i... : Serpico74
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        I know it's an alpha, but by what id has been saying, I don't think the gameplay is going to especially a... : ltrls987
        • I would agree with this assessment. Which is odd because I really didnt enjoy Max Payne all that much and... : johnny rotten
        • This is a statement I can agree with : Serpico74
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    I just hated the monster AI and the look of them even, it just wasn't doom. where the fuck was some ha... : 4ge
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      wtf? intelligent zombies in doom? they growled, then stood there and shot. if one of their buddies was... : ermac
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        I'm hoping the bigger baddies are super smart. Can you imagine a steamdemon having strategic intelligenc... : ltrls987
        • yeah. it would be cool if some of the more advance bad guys (maybe the ones in hell, since you're goin' ... : ermac
      • They had pupils - it makes a massive massive massive difference (trust me) The doom 3 ones just see... : 4ge
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      you hated the LOOK of the Doom3 monsters?!?!? omg, they are probably the best character designs i've eve... : johnny rotten
      • They looked "dumb" and too repetitive and I only had the 3 level beta - let alone the full game : 4ge
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  dude, don't even judge it like that. It was not even an alpha version of the game. It was there E3 demo... : ease_one
  • ease_one is smarter than all of you : buttermilksloth
  • that's "can't judge the interactivity of..." : ease_one
• Deus Ex was the very best game I very played. Despite it's occasional AI shortcomings, no other game ev... : rjdriver
• It's not interactive if you think about Deus Ex interactivity (chat, carrying boxes, ...). Doom 3's inter... : blackguy
• My neighbour told me many of the effects seem were scripted. He says the engine definitely was there, but... : rorshack

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  that's because you've never seen it in motion before. I have, and it reminds me of the movie final fanta... : ltrls987
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    I had the peice of shit tech demo, it ran fine on my 9700 i wasnt that impressed. you are nothing : VERTEBRAINS
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      name one game that looks better.. : on_a_beach
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        unreal 1. : yautja
        • i meant besides unreal 1 : on_a_beach
        • i meant besides unreal 1 : on_a_beach
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        STalker, Far Cry, HL2, need i go on : VERTEBRAINS
        • You should move on, troll :) : gyvoji
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          stalker comes close. farcry looks like a turd imo. hl2 looks good, but not nearly as good as doom. : on_a_beach
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            S.T.A.L.K.E.R. beats DOOM III in some ways. : Colin Higgins
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              Super Mario 1 too : rorshack
              • You're going out on a limb there. : Colin Higgins

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  Virtua Figher was out before Quake? heh. : KungFuKenobi
  • That's a very interesting read, BTW. Thanks. : KungFuKenobi
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  informative!!!!! : celerity
  • iawtp x10! : on_a_beach
• Thats Oldskool! : shoelessjoe
• (+5, Informative) sorry, had to do it : cap n KRUNCH
• Those were the days. *fondly remembers the 1000+ people cramming into #Quake on EFNET to download the dem... : -pRy-
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  of course, we'll never stop the game just for a cinematic. we never do that If Romero was still on id... : rorshack
  • Oh boy, that's just too much to mention. Great link indeed. Informative please! : rorshack
• damn they really didnt know what they were doing did they just shows you how much the business end of th... : grimiv

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• They're not new. There's only one knew "exclusive" screenshot. Nothing too fancy, though it shows the ... : rorshack

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  Doom3 is openGL : Turd Ferguson
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    Really? Wow, way to bet on the wrong horse! : Aubrey Philipsz
    • No, considering Doom 3 will have Mac and Linux versions shortly after or at the same time as the release ... : Selfist
    • No, considering Doom 3 will have Mac and Linux versions shortly after or at the same time as the release ... : Selfist
  • So? It will most likely still use other parts of DirectX, much like the Quake engines before it. His j... : Stormrider
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    Though OGL D3 can use DIrectX, but not D3D. That's what I think. : SlamDunk
    • It uses DirectInput and stuff : blackguy

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• Junkstyle cant read...didn't catch that MULTIPLAYER part : junkstyle

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• a new screenshot? wow, way to read maarten's post ;) : ermac
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  http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2003/pc/doom3/0430/doom3_screen001.jpg that'd make a great wallpa... : AMikaboshi
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    hey, does that guy have two huge balls? : Cpt. Baseballbat
    • No, he went through a teleporter and materialized with his head on backwards like President Skroob. That... : Stormrider
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  except for the fact that it's not NEW - http://www.shacknews.com/ja.zz?id=7377881 : PUPSTAHS
  • prolly the exclusive referred to the intraweb.. : on_a_beach

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• Based on the history of games (or game) from both developers, I have to give the nod to Valve in expectin... : !gnoleb
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  What your saying, basically, is that you can weave a narrative out of cat scares alone. Mood and atmosphe... : unmaker
  • exactly. : Jackass1233
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    You DON'T need to know who you are for a good game, or even a good story (when in the first person). What... : archon
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      No offense Archon, but you don't know what I'm talking about. I'm not talking about who YOU are as an in... : unmaker
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        nice cop out but it's still the same. for example in Q2 you were a space marine, as you were in all the o... : archon
        • Please don't mention quake 2 in the same sentence as half life. Quake 2's story was drivel at best. A coo... : Jackass1233
        • Okay, it's confirmed. You don't know what I'm talking about. : unmaker
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          I hate to come in on this, but quake 2's story really was a piece of crap. Its kind of like saying the Ha... : elementZen
          • Nice analogy. Also, Q2 sucks. : Cpt. Baseballbat
        • You're kidding right? There was no living breathing environment in Q2. It was one big monster kill to get... : Fred Garvin
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        If Doom3 is like what you are asking for I will be sorely disappointed. Most games including Doom never r... : koder
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          Because, there are a lot of gamers like myself that have been through Doom and we want more. If I wanted ... : Fred Garvin
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            There are already too many 'interactive movie' wannabes. Game designers seem to have it in their head tha... : koder
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              Then you want Serious Sam. I don't want an "interactive movie", but I do want a story that makes sense an... : Fred Garvin
              • I agree. People tend to take it to the extreme on this topic. I don't want pong, but I don't want Moby ... : KungFuKenobi
              • there is room for the serious sam's, but I dont want doom going there. I've never played either Serious ... : johnny rotten
            • thank god you will be disapointed : ease_one
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          because if it was my first time playing Doom or even pac-man today I would say they "suck" They have b... : ease_one
          • So would I, but it's not the lack of story that sucks. It is the graphics and the fact that it was 2.5D a... : koder
          • Hehe, if they make a pacman2 maybe they will put cutscenes in it for you guys :) : koder
• So, do you think the story'll end up like Quake2? : KungFuKenobi
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  Comments like this make me chuckle, I mean you could change it around and say this: I don't know why, ... : driller
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    Comments like this make me touch myself chuckle, I mean you could change it around and say this: I don... : ease_one
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      I don't think that had quite the effect you intended ease... : driller
      • that is ok, i was just having fun. I didn't even read the earlier post about doom, i just read yours abo... : ease_one
  • I don't think anyone knows enough about doom3 to make the statements that you have made. : Maxpower
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  I'd prefer it to be scary with less storyling as you mentioned to be honest be more true to the origin... : 4ge
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    If it were true to the original, wouldn't it have an assload of run and gun action in particularly hellis... : DannoHung
    • yes. and at the end of every episode, you will get a text rundown of what just happened, and where you'r... : ermac
• This IS a fanboy post. You know little about either game. : Senor PoopyPants

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  You can always turn off the things you don't want on... just like you can turn EAX, per-pixel shading, sh... : Saint Lucifer
  • im saying if i turn everything off, then the gamewont be "revolutionary" like the guy says it will be : papaskot
• buy a new computer then? :P i'm not sure what you're saying. are you saying you want less CPU-intensive... : ermac

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  I ready all the quake hype and I dont remember bs like that, I remember it was going to be all multiplaye... : shotgun1
  • I ready? :\ : shotgun1
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    I distinctly recall the hammer comments I was reading about Quake very shortly after D2's release. : 4ge
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      Well, if id expected a 1,000 player multiplayer game when cable and dsl modems was like saying I get the ... : shotgun1
      • a thousand players looking to connect, that was a big deal when online gaming was non existence. We take ... : elementZen
    • I remember it as well. : Colin Higgins
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    Actually Quake *was* originally supposed to have a hammer. : unmaker
    • I can play this game... your name is unmaker. : elementZen
    • heh.. yeah.. i remmebr playing the leaked demo of it.. I think that is why teh game was orinially called ... : Antilles_Prime
    • yeah, i read it in the interview with john romero in my doom 2 strategy guide!! : ermac
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      Heres your damn hammer! http://www.shackspace.com/~shotgun1@shackmail.com/hammer.jpg Courtesy of the hi... : shotgun1
      • Yes, that's where it wound up originally... but that doesn't change the fact that Quake was originally su... : unmaker
      • \m/ LEVELLORD \m/ : celerity
  • they did say all of that. : rudds
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  Quake still has the best deathmatch out of all of the FPSs. Fast, furious, totally intense. Gotta luv t... : Selfist
  • do it fast.. do it furious.. n***a whattt! : lingo
• Yea...and Quake did end up revolutionizing PC games, so what's your point again? : brewsterdog
• and you could press a key to take a shit dood.. seriously. Romero said it was so on #doom back in the day... : celerity

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  the two are going to be completely different. doom 3 engine will be simple, small amount of characters i... : yautja
  • #322, thats what the Iraqi Information Minister says, that ID HIRED RIGHT!!! HAHAAH : VERTEBRAINS
  • you never played Doom 2 obviously.. or quake 1 sp. : lingo

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• Have you modified your hosts file? I think somehow gamespot's ad service is integrated with their conten... : KungFuKenobi
• sucks, me neither, but i've seen the chainsaw shot already in print : grimiv
• your computer isnt fast enough for doom 3 screenshots : ansuble
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  it's because you've installed kazaa lite, most likely. you need to clear your hosts file. let me know if ... : rudds
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    I'd like more information plz. : strife
    • http://forums.gamespot.com/gamespot/board/message?board.id=askgamespot&message.id=22359 : rudds

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• Agreed ! I can't wait to see the hell levels. Thats going to be wicked cool. : beefcake01

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• fuck! : Stormrider
• okay......? : lingo

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  Halo 2, S.T.A.L.K.E.R. and Half-Life 2 will probably have the best engines for vast terrain, but nobody* ... : Colin Higgins
  • Don't count out Halo 2. : jake
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  thats true, but nobody knows yet how doom3 handles vast terrain.. maybe they learned something from q3:ta... : syn0r
  • indeed, one would think so. i keep thinking that id has only showed off a small portion of the game. : on_a_beach
  • indeed, one would think so. i keep thinking that id has only showed off a small portion of the game. : on_a_beach

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• maybe the screenshots are all from one small area? : ermac
• Um.....wasn't 30 levels of that in d00m 1 and 2? Wasn't a problem then. : RyDogg1
• Hey.. but what if they're clones or something, some kind of 'fat-guy cloning device gone horribly awry' t... : carrioN luggagE
• How many varieties of human zombies do you want? Four is a lot IMO. They aren't even the main attractio... : DinK
• Just wait for the game to be released and well see what they do about that. : annih1late

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• X : Cpt. Baseballbat

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  like the end of doom (doom2?) with the secret room containing a severed head on a spike (romero?) : liquidlies
  • i guess i was actually thinking of wolf 3-D. : jvox
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    I thought the severed head was Jesus' head. Atleast that is what a lot of people have said in the past. I... : Evil Furby
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      haha, it's romero's head. dur :p : Poor Yurik
      • Romero is Jesus : diehlr

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• they probably meany exclusive as far as magazines are concerned, and gamespot meant exclusive as far as w... : jvox
• Truth ^^ : Cygnus X-1

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• You mean the BROWN CRATE PHYSICS : Topaz
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  they had that in tresspasser. : vassili_zaitsev
  • I wonder if the physics will be similar to those in Tresspasser. Or will it just be objects falling physi... : Topaz
  • I liked the physics where if you were holding a crate and moved your arm the wrong way then you would die : diehlr

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• ^^^ 14w7p : SlamDunk
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  Screenshots that look worse then other games? Have been looking at the same game? : sharkII
  • yes I have. And I have been looking at other games too. Never seen a game that looks better than Doom3,... : ease_one
  • STALKER's screenies look really badass. : vassili_zaitsev
• I agree. The screenshots don't come even close to doing it justice if the leaked movie from way back was ... : mactu

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  Thats just the state of gaming these days. If you want the pretty games you better buck up and get the to... : beefcake01
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    I've got a 2400XP+ CPU, a GF3 graphics card, 512 MB DDR RAM and acres of hard drive space. Will that do ... : Waverider
    • I just bought a large part of my doom/half-life2 box: 2.8c 800fsb cpu overclocked to 3.5ghz Abit IC7... : FLARCHITECT
• Ofcourse and don't forget the 256MB videocards :) : MarksmanX

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  Again, someone always makes this comment. It's been said a lot of times, and even in some recent article ... : gl2 drivers
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    Sorry. I obviously don't spend all day reading comments. I'm sure there are quite a few more posts here... : SackMan
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      Sorry I wasn't "blasting" you. I suppose we should all just sit here and listen to other people saying th... : gl2 drivers
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        Wow! Great idea! Wish I would've thought of that first! If someone makes a statement on knowledge that... : SackMan
        • dude... let... it.... go. : indeego
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          Uhm, no. I'm saying maybe don't post things you don't know. Just because you think it up in your head doe... : gl2 drivers
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            Okay. I'm giving up on this arguement because your logic is all messed up. Last time I checked, there w... : SackMan
            • I don't know about that. I might not always agree with gl2, but his arguments are always fairly cogent an... : Fred Garvin
            • I really hope you're 13 years old. : gl2 drivers
    • way to make excuses for making uninformed comments ;) : ermac
• It'll be a good battle... Even though Quake 3 had better graphics... I'm betting Half-Life 1 still s... : Nullzero
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  yeah. i think HL2 & Doom 3's single player will be just meh.. the other developers that will use the engi... : yautja
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    Yeah, but wait till Rocket Arena comes out for it! : SackMan
    • rocket arena? dunno what anyone saw in that. : yautja
• Better engine != good gameplay. At this point it comes down to who can make a fun game. : Fred Garvin

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  The GOLDEN age of fps is upon us, so much quality gaming coming with the graphics and gameplay to satisfy... : marku5
  • It sure is! But this GOLDEN age will cost plenty of GREEN. : afo
  • rather The golden age 2 of fps.. the first one was 10 years ago :') My wallet is in for pain: Doom3, H... : lapskaus
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  That's why warez exists ;) but I'm not condoning it. : ltrls987
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    You can't warez a new PC. :( : afo
    • but you can reduce game cost to 0 so you can throw more money at the pc upgrades. i used to do that an... : 4ge
    • But you can! It's called drive-in-shopping and it's done at night. ;) : Aubrey Philipsz
• I feel your pain. :( : Kniggit

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• stfu troll! : jvox
• true that. :) : abubu
• thats why its so important to have a great sound guy doing the work; someone that knows what frequencies ... : jerenity
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  It was more scary because it happened when you were A LOT younger, not just 4 or 5 years ago, but like 10... : Jackass1233
  • tha thing always scared me more because it always hit me you can dodge those imp fireballs easily : jerenity

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  Ya, hopefully someone will get some hidden cam footage again. :-) : beefcake01
  • hopefully they will have the sense to release this trailer to the net, pleease id. : gl2 drivers

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  ve3d'd : grimiv
  • I havent been there in years... did they have a poll like that? (I dont get your reference...) : Antilles_Prime
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  add Deus ex 2 to the list : hodapp1234
  • I think DS2 will kick mucho ass, but it seems lately that everyone has these 2 games head to head... so..... : Antilles_Prime
  • And Thief 3 : Kiriakos
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  Everything is a competition with some of you people. Fuck that shit. I can't wait for Doom 3 AND Half-L... : TwiLyght
  • I'd install one, beat it then install the next, beat it, then.................. : FLARCHITECT
• Add DNF and it's a good poll. : brewsterdog
• add Quake IV to that list. : Scotty22
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  here's my take: HL2>DX2==Thief 3>Doom 3>Stalker : ltrls987
  • Im gonna have to take HL2 over all of em, cause it all comes down to one simple fact; I spent more tim... : Antilles_Prime

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  hy·per adj. Slang Emotionally stimulated or overexcited. re·al·is : SlamDunk
  • Ahh...so "over the top", then. : Colin Higgins
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  special use of realism: a style in the visual arts that uses realism to achieve a striking effect rather ... : Dust-Off
  • Got it. : Colin Higgins
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  Its even more REAL then REAL LIFE : Maxpower
  • also, more human than human. : Kniggit
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  Note the first 4 letters. : 4ge
  • Roofles! : Colin Higgins

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  /em thinks you were just duped... : Tripps
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    nope, it's the EXACT same shot : PUPSTAHS
    • Yeah, you're right. I have that exact issue. Nothing new to see here. : Colin Higgins
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  Just to make sure, I'll go check the mag for proof : PUPSTAHS
  • Yep, March 2003. Warcraft 3: Frozen Throne on the cover. : PUPSTAHS

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  double post : ltrls987
  • and a poor one at that. quake nostalgia != Doom3 : Downforce

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  Doom 3 has - a scientiest who opened hell's gate - and a scientiest who helps you to enter hell : matthaeus
  • Good, better than having to click on a scientist and make him follow me around with his craptastic AI : brewsterdog
• People that believe Half Life has a beautiful well crafted single player story are sadly mistaken. It jus... : archon
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  I love when developers talk about their game's story and say it has X amount of words, like that automati... : Kiriakos
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    Those were great! Undying's scrying also added a lot, but it was optional. You KNEW you were going to g... : KungFuKenobi
    • Undying was pretty awesome as well. Not quite as good as SS2 but it's a close second for me. In any hor... : Kiriakos
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    system shock 2 has the best storytelling in a FPS ever. : rudds
    • Agreed. Marathon is the fps story daddy though :) : Poor Yurik
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  Half-Life's scenarios were set up via talking to people, which kept the story flowing. You had to get to... : KungFuKenobi
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    "How you can compare Half-Life to Doom is beyond me." [doom (1 and 2) - halflife] scientists accide... : jet-poop
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      What makes a story good or not is how you tell it. : diehlr
      • no. that makes storytelling good. movie example: Psycho (hitchcock version) vs. Psycho (Gus Van Sant ... : jet-poop
  • Doom was pretty much the same, minus the talking scientists. You could understand what was going on with ... : lapskaus
• No Half-Life's story wasn't all that great or original, but that really isn't the point. The point was t... : Priest77
• hmm...someone needs to send me a shackmsg. please? THX! : freakord