Half-Life 2 Info

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  It's not about a bullet list of features. It's about overall fun and presentation. Doom 3 has far less ... : GeorgeB3DR
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    Look at it like this, if you've played GTA3 and VICE CITY, you'll understand this. They are both great... : sickbit
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      "and george people will only buy doom3 for the lighting f/x's" Um, no. Try again. : Evil Furby
      • so i wrote quicky and didn't prove read and put 'lighting' instead of 'lightin' The engine is the only... : sickbit
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    ^^ informative : matthaeus
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      short opinions are informative? : jerenity
      • some was opinion, the stuff about DNF only having karma and using static meshes, for about 7..8 months is... : sickbit
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  Why DNF has a problem? HL2 & DNF are 2 different games. You can buy 'em BOTH u know... : SlamDunk
  • Yeah really. It's not like it's some computer hardware. : Speedy8
  • ya, HL2 will have a bunch of alien shit that lots of people hate : jerenity
  • Yeah, one exists and the other doesn't! : Evil Furby
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    I will buy 'em both because i am a gamer. But 90% of the target audience of both games consists of non-ha... : [7]kami
    • Most 'gamers' will buy half-life 2 The rest will buy half-life 2 and DNF, but they rest are people who... : sickbit

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  agreed... seems a bit hipocritical , no? somebody slipping u some money under the table steve? lol : atreus
  • its not like we cant find them online in other places, but, ya, it does seem a little protective of his s... : jerenity
  • are you retarded? IT'S PIRACY TO ALLOW THE LINKS - what the fuck has money got to do with it? Shit yo... : 4ge
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  There's a difference between a legally binding NDA and under-the-table deals that influence editorial con... : Odoyle
  • ...and he ignores the one post that is correct. : busdriver3030
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  those magazines have been taking legal action (well, cease and desists, threatening legal action) against... : jet-poop
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    but he doesnt say, "dont post links or ill get my site shut down" he says, "dont post links, go buy th : jerenity
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      Posting scans of magazines would be copyright infringement. : TwiLyght
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        again, why is it so hard for people to understand im talking about links and NOT scans? : jerenity
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          You're misinterpreting what Steve said. "Keep in mind, NO LINKING OF SCANS." - The keyword is scans, not... : TwiLyght
          • actually, LINKING is the important word in that statement : jerenity
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  Guys, it's the law, plain and simple. Scanning a magazine - in whole or in part - without permission is i... : jasoncg
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    the point is that he could simply say "go look for that somewhere else." but he says go buy magazines, ev... : jerenity
    • i dont have any financial ties with any of those magazines, you're just being paranoid and i'm just being... : Steve Gibson

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  I want to have sex with Doug Lombardi's massive brain. : Ride-My-Rocket
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    Anyone remember the lombardi map for Front line force? : stgdz
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      didn't he make that kick ass map for HL DM with the turrets and the nuke button? Incoming or something wa... : veggie
      • It was called Crossfire (sequal was called Doublecross), and nope, it was Dario Casali who made that. Lom... : menkey
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  I believe this quote has been around since may 2002 as you can see here http://www.google.com/search?q=... : gl2 drivers
  • correct. this was the last public bit of info if I remember correctly. : malloc
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  Before BF1942 came out, QW TF was still the #1 team fun game for me. I hope they surprise me. : rorshack
  • 2fort5 Ramp Room 4 EVAR! : Sarcastro
  • Agreed on both accounts. : Speedy8
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  <i>it became clear that the Half-Life technology base was going to be pretty limiting.</i> I guess we ... : xenoeye
  • Jazztags n00b :D : xenoeye
  • test [ \[ [[ : bullet

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• Aww crap, I should post this where somebody will *read* it. : hellvetica
• sneaking in the airvent and i hear two soldier's talking.. one says 'do you hear something?' and then sta... : sikander

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• The "tech-side" battle isn't really over until we get to see D3 & HL2 in action. I'll decide then which g... : SlamDunk
• Are we really expecting the two to have stories of similar quality? I haven't seen a good story from id s... : Cpt. Baseballbat
• i must say, i was shocked at the tech that HL2 will have in it. it looks like the decider between doom3 ... : jerenity

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  DX2 > all of them : Mad Brahmin Disease
  • TETRIS > GOD : jerenity
• Now that I actually understand what you were getting at...*head explodes* : Mad Brahmin Disease

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• *cries : Nighthavvk
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  I think the "icebreaker (large ship)" map was from CZ. I've seen it on some screenshot... : rorshack
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    You're kidding right? : bubble rap
    • What? No I just said that some old CS:CZ screenshots featured a ship covered with snow. And now they m... : rorshack
• It will see the light of day, so says Microsoft and Valve. : Normality
• CZ will actually ship next month. :P : badman
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  WHO CARES'd : lingo
  • im suprised people still care about cz : Cpt. Baseballbat

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  Just as Half-life is it's own Engine now, this will also be it's own engine. : bubble rap
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    This is one is entirely Valves baby. There is no id tech in it. : johnny rotten
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      Just like the current HL engine is now. After the tons of patches. : bubble rap
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        There are still chunks of id licenesed code in Half-life. : johnny rotten
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          Wrong... Not anymore. : bubble rap
          • That's not true, the graphics stuff is still all the same as it was back in 1998, their map format is a v... : gl2 drivers
          • <sigh> : johnny rotten
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            please dont state things as fact that you dont know as fact, it upsets people plus it makes you look sill... : Steve Gibson
            • that being said, have you been to valve and seen this gig in action yet? : Antilles_Prime
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  hey time to laugh at me once again! Mike Dussault was the guy that wrote Lithtech, Valve stole him aw... : tribes2
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    hopefully he learnt how to write decent netcode in his post Lith days. Or maybe they let Yahn take care ... : johnny rotten
    • Valve runs their own bioengineering firm, and they spliced together their genetic code to create the perf... : gregorybrown
    • That's one of the two things that worries me about that. The other is the mouse input...Lithtech games h... : Vorlonesque

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  Magazines possibly have more bling bling that your average gaming website? Sorry sTeve. ;) : |hawkeye|
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    pc GAMER probably brings in a little over $100K a month in ad revenue. : veggie
    • Last I checked, a full page ad in PC Gamer was ~10k. : GeorgeB3DR
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    Mags don't pay for coverage. Developers favor magazines because the covers look good hanging on their wa... : GeorgeB3DR
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      If DNF shows up on the cover of a mag as vaporware of 2001, 2002, 2003, etc. is that good press or bad pr... : Topaz
      • You obviously don't get it, it doesn't matter whether it's good or bad, it still makes a good magazine co... : davew2040
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      There are other reasons besides. 1. Websites boast impressive "readership" (unique IPs usually) in a m... : jasoncg
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        How do you guys calculate #3? Do you have demographics that say "oh, this went to a dentist's office so ... : Pie4Foo
        • #3 is not really possible to calculate accurately on a magazine by magazine basis. It's a formula that th... : jasoncg

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  so how do you know they didnt include extra features beyond level editing? do you share a bed with Gabe ... : MaxPayne
  • I think his "unless" works well as a defence. : Myrmecophagavir
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  Yeah, i used to make Maps with WorldCraft My friend tried Hammer and didn't like it nearly as much so ... : jackomack
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    What were the major differences? Was it not just a simple renaming? : hellspit
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      The new version currently being betatested adds model viewing within the editor, pointfile viewing, and a... : gregorybrown
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        Pointfile viewing within the editor - as in letting you find leaks without compiling the map? - That's da... : hellspit
        • you only get a pointfile after a compile. Doesn't have to be a full compile though. just bsp i think : ease_one
      • Yeah i'm not into mapping myself but a lot of guys were blowing their wads because they want to be able t... : gl2 drivers
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        man, csg editors are so limiting now ;D : ease_one
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          I love CSG. What is all this talk of "leaks"? :( : node
          • csg is like wearing heavy working gloves and trying to build some crazy lego level. Kind of a pain in th... : ease_one
          • it's when the map is open to the "outside" i guess you could say it's leaking out of where it's suppos... : jackomack
          • A leak is basically what it says. If you were to fill the map with water, theres a hole somewhere and th... : _nuclear_
    • I guess not, he said it just changed too much and he didnt wanna have to relearn everything. I wouldn't ... : jackomack
• They at least have to add the ability to set physics properties which is one thing they mention HL2 havin... : Topaz

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  yea reminds me of the Q3 vs UT debate a couple of years ago : stgdz
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    how is this like that debate at all? this time we have two singleplayer games *d3 is trying to* i wil... : Malk
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      I will play and love STALKER Doom 3 and Half Life 2. Hard drives are big for a reason, guys. :) : |hawkeye|
      • ^^^ A TRUE GAMER : SlamDunk
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  Sounds like HL is aiming to be a more complete package. D00M3 will probably have more of a "woah" factor... : brewsterdog
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    doom3+expansions will be some pretty serious ownage. : Turd Ferguson
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      not as much ownage as HL2 + expansion plus Multiplayer + mods though probably. : veggie
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        Or HL2+one goddamn mod which manages to pull a 100,000,000,000-player base : rorshack
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          there aren't 100 billion people on earth dude : Gandalf
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            Not on your earth! : rorshack
            • I love you guys! : Sebastian Sylvan
        • or Doom3 and 15 different types of CTF and DM. : snuff
    • That's what I thought when Q3 came out. Bought it on impulse, "because it will have plenty of cool mods.... : rasputinreborn
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  I think Half Life 2 will be the superior game, because they aren't putting all of their chips on the grap : TheBangman
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    yeah, valve has already proven it can make a compelling game with a good story even with shit graphics. t... : veggie
    • The graphics were excellent for their time... : tuxxy
    • yeah right! All HL is a collaboration of many scifi movies, the only think that made it worth playing was... : Vladfrost
    • Yeah, HL graphics were great, they fit the game too. : Malk
    • What had better graphics than HL when it came out? I don't think many games even had skeletal animation ... : ease_one
  • Why does everyone mention story. I mean did HL really have a great story. NO! It had a good story for : Vorlonesque
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  oh i'll buy both. : kevp
  • But think of the fanboys : rorshack
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  yah hl2. It comes not only with better Singleplayer.....longer as well 40 hours. According to Carmack doo... : Cpt. Baseballbat
  • of course, you've already played through both so you know right?.... no wonder the retards anon : cam3lt0sis
  • well, Doom might have HL2 beat in the tools department. Realtime preview, import whatever 3d formats you... : ease_one
  • yah hl2. It comes not only with better Singleplayer debatable. i've played plenty of long games that w : jet-poop
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  why do we even ask this? we ALL know we're buying both.... : the_doctor
  • amen, Doom is legendary... and so is Half-Life : FuzzyOnion
• I will buy and love both these games. but probably half-life more : johnny rotten
• I would bet my next paycheck most gamers will pick up both. As to which will be better...depends on wh... : vincentgrayson

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  I wouldn't consider anything but HL single player playable on a 300. Quake 3 is faster than Half-lif... : Freon
  • Would it work if we simply paid you NOT to make that trip? : Ride-My-Rocket
  • Is this not depending on how big the mappers make the world though. : gl2 drivers
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    dude I played hl single player on a p2 266 with a voodoo2 and it was fine. quake 3, on the other hand,... : Morgin
    • Me too... pentium... 166 oc'd to 200MHz, 24MB RAM. : snuff
    • I cut through it on a Pentium 200 with 32MB RAM and an 8MB Voodoo2. No problem. : Pointy
  • I played Half Life on a p-166, 32megs and a 8meg voodoo 2. It ran perfectly fine, and I played plenty of... : hodapp1234
  • Freon is going to be doing Bukkake videos, no time... : rasputinreborn
• http://valve.speakeasy.net/survey/ I love these stats. Most people are playing with less than 1GHz pro... : snuff
• It's been awhile since a game was released that didn't scale based on system specs. : davew2040
• You're gonna have to upgrade sometime. VALVe is going o be around forever to cradle your oldass computers... : Evil Furby
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  GF1 isn't a 300 dollar card.. It's like 50 dollars... : Sebastian Sylvan
  • http://www.crucial.com/store/partspecs.asp?imodule=CTV750064A6 There, Geforce 2'ish performance for $5... : Toraz Chryx
• When Half-Life came out, P2-300's were top of the line machines... I'm sure Doom3 will run just fine on ... : Vantage

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  I disagree. I think PC Gamer is *the* gaming mag. : solo
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    PC Gamer [ITALIC]UK[/ITALIC] was the gaming mag. I dunno how its doing today but back in 97-98 when James... : Imminent
    • God i Suck :( : Imminent
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      PC Gamer used to be a lot better than it is now, IMO. When they started cycling editors every few months... : Sapiens
      • Yeah, it used to be better. : pun][sher
      • I used to love getting PC gamer just for the demo CDs(back before i had cable, ~5 years ago). Now I downl... : rigidnips

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• Objects. I don't think walls count as objects. : snuff
• that's what it sounds like. : veggie
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  Realistic crates! Seriously now, I don't think so. It's hell hard to do. It was used on ... : rorshack
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    I wish somebody would figure this one out. If I want to tear down a building floor by floor then god damn... : burrito
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      I'd say give it a few years. We need a bit more processor power first. Definitely no more than 10 though,... : tostador
      • It's not particularly difficult to do, and has been implemented before. The problem is that techniques fo... : davew2040
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  I'm sure it doesn't go that far, but it's been sorta said that anything wooden is destructable. When they... : gl2 drivers
  • Or an alien turning around, dropping it's pants, and spreading its ass to unholy levels... Or, may... : Ebu
• Think what Devastation wanted to do but fell short of by a good bit. : Vorlonesque
• The magazines said there are destructable environments, and your enemies will react to their cover being ... : seven

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  Half-Life 2 isn't Devestation, nor Postal 2. You'll notice that both P2 and Devestation are Unreal Warfar... : rec au
  • True. I guess my only experience with game physics is Karma. Haven't played anything with Havok yet... a... : Dynotaku
• How many games promised to a real physics engine who affects all objects. I´m sick of hearing tha... : derniggo

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  if you see if for less than $45 during the 2nd full week, buy it. I was an idiot and waited for BF1942 to... : BulletPro
  • i bet gogamer will do a decent sale within the first two weeks. : Turd Ferguson
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    GoGamer had a BF1942 sale a while back. Jewel case + manual - box for about $25. :\ : project13
    • yeah and i was like "nah the price will go down" :( : johngloid
• Half-Life was a full price game many years... : SlamDunk
• Half-life is still $29.99. Tell me that's not fucked up. : brewsterdog

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  I'd rather wait 20 sec then have a smooth gameplay experience, gives you time to grab a muchy or somethin... : FuzzyOnion
  • No, you're wrong. : Sarcastro
  • Um, escape key?? : rasputinreborn
• i'd even hazard a guess that one of the things they built into this engine was dynamic loading, so you ne... : patdoody
• You don't know loading time troubles until you've run across long distances in Morrowind. You sometimes s... : davew2040

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  TFC is what they gave you for free buddy. : r0lf-
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    Because they didn't provide TF2 as promised, buddy. : lord cecil
    • buddy :) : r0lf-
• It was announced a long time ago that TF2 would be a purchased game. : Omaha
• lol you are still mad over this? you got tfc and cs and dod out of little ol half life. : solo
• If you want to get technical, it was going to be a Quake 2 mod originally. Then TFS got picked up by Val... : Sapiens

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• the 1.5b registered worldcraft on my computer is aching for some q1 attention! : Ziggurat

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• Will Barney's nuts be affected by physics? Can I crowbar his nuts and watch him double over? I didn't thi... : Topaz
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  yeah i hope i get to drive the tram for half the game :-D : johngloid
  • Haha, ya. Game starts. Oh, tram ride cool. La la la. Hm. Gun. Cool. BANG BANG BANG. Tram stops. Uh. Shit.... : Topaz

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• Straight from the magazines! : Gary the Llama
• It's from a magazine with an interview with gabe newell I believe. So it is accurate. : gl2 drivers
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  the shack would never lie to you. : blender81
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    and on that note, i have a 12" cock!! : poppasp1ce
    • dude, just get an alarm, it's more practical : FuzzyOnion
• Hello, it's the anon dude again. I hadn't seen that information in the PC Gamer article, is it in the ... : DannoHung

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• Except of course when they get exclusive stories/interviews with "first-ever" screenshots like they did w... : |hawkeye|

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• Well, I get it for the articles, naturally. ;) (Tried that with my Playboy subscription too...) : smart1

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  I like QW speed (heh) but I'm happy they're staying at the original HL speed. I'd hate to see HL turning ... : rorshack
  • realism is SO yesterday : FuzzyOnion
  • Quakeworld has the best physics out of any deathmatch game! Quake has been seeing steady improvements:... : Selfist
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  I agree, I couldn't play Q3 and similar games because these fucking kids play like they just hit the pipe... : snuff
  • Hey, I'm not a kid and I love the speed of Q3 etc. I cut my teeth in Quakeworld, if anything I'm OG, Ori... : unmaker
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  Doom was the fastest as far as speed, followed very closely by Quake. Quake 2 was way slower, and then Q... : Chod
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    Actually DOOM was a great deal faster than Quake. Quake2 was only slightly slower than Quake1 actually (... : Vorlonesque
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      Also worth noting is that HL's running speed in single player was 320qu/s (just like Q1) but in multiplay... : Vorlonesque
      • this is just a thought but what is the average speed of a bad guy in single player? i wonder if they slow... : pyro
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  Actually I think there were saying this so that people would know they weren't going to slow it down. I ... : Vorlonesque
  • Yeah I reinstalled half life the other day and I thought it was REALLY fast, but I liked it. And I liked ... : gl2 drivers
• I think you run too fast in Half-Life. Especially watching my friends who aren't very good at games stumb... : Myrmecophagavir

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• nope it sure doesnt, im just being nice. : Steve Gibson
• It's called "adhering to the DMCA." Like it or not, the shack is LEGALLY BOUND to police their message... : jasoncg

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• They say the requirements will be pretty low. I believe that CNN article posted here a few days ago ha : rorshack
• Apparently it plays smooth on a GF4 and 2ghz+ P4. Exactly what 'smooth' (framerate vs resolution vs eye ... : johnny rotten

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• your damned funny. : substaticm
• a comedian! : gl2 drivers