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Westwood, EAP Shut Down

by Maarten Goldstein, Jan 29, 2003 3:36pm PST

Related Topics – Electronic Arts, EA Redwood Shores

Electronic Arts today announced their latest quartely results, and once again the numbers are impressive with a 48% revenue increase and $250 million in net profits. Not all is well for the employees of EA though, as the company will consolidate studios in Los Angeles, Las Vegas and Irvine - in order to create one big studio in Los Angeles. According to this story, about 50 jobs will be lost. Las Vegas is the location of Westwood Studios, and it means this company will shut down. Same goes for EA Pacific (recently finished C&C Generals) which is in Irvine. Thanks HomeLAN Fed. Update: HomeLAN Fed has has a further update on the news. Most of the C&C Generals team (EA Pacific) will move to the new LA studio, and new C&C games are planned. For those of you worried about Earth & Beyond, the servers and support will be moved to the EA Redwood Shores studios which also houses the Motor City Online servers.

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so the command conquer franchise is over?

Jan 29, 2003 3:40pm PST

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so the command conquer franchise is over? : -=ZooL=-
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This is NOT the end of Command and Conquer games!! Who knows, we may even see a Red Alert 3 based on the Generals engine! C&C has too much profit potential to waste away just because of some downsizing. Like the Virtua Fighter series for the fighting genre, C&C is the only game I have ever liked for the RTS genre. Contrary to Steve, Red Alert and Red Alert 2 are my 2 favorite RTS games of all time. I have always only liked the simple no-frills C&C style of RTS gameplay, and generally disliked Blizzard's Warcraft/Starcraft style. I am still very skeptical about Generals because I don't want to see another military sim crap based on American patriot themes. The other factions like China and the geurillas better be balanced against USA in skirmishes/online. But it still looks very cool, and I will take a very good look at Generals.

C&C forever!

Jan 30, 2003 2:32pm PST

This is NOT the end of Command and Conquer games!! Who knows, we may even see a Red Alert 3 based on the... : valiance

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If MS buys Blizzard, that means the only good game company left in the world is...

id!!!!

I hope Carmack passed his annual physical. He may have to carry the whole PC gaming world on his shoulders.

(Valve doesn't count because they made only one game and that was 4 years ago.)

Jan 29, 2003 5:42pm PST

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  - Dude, the only decent game MS has ever been involved with directly is minesweeper. : hangingChad
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    - Except it's 21 years and not 4. : Edges
- What about Ion Storm? Deus Ex series? Thief series? System Shock series? And what about non-PC softwa... : valiance

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Renegade sorta messed WestWood up, they should have spent more time making something else, making their first FPS was a foolish idea :/

/me will miss teh westwood

C&C forever.

Jan 30, 2003 8:43am PST

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- Renegade was so fun... too bad it was plagued by bugs and lag. : Edges

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ok...
somehow, I highly doubt that EA would be stupid enough to bury one of the best known franchises in PC gaming (C&C). It would be stupid.

There will be more C&C games, they just won't be done by Westwood, they'll be done by EA.

Jan 30, 2003 9:14am PST

ok... somehow, I highly doubt that EA would be stupid enough to bury one of the best known franchises in... : The_FrO

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This sucks. I am addicted to Earth and Beyond (Level 118 Jenquai Explorer on the Orion server).

If E&B suffers because of this shutdown, I WILL HAVE TEH ANGAR !!!

-Xian

Jan 30, 2003 8:06am PST

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This sucks. I am addicted to Earth and Beyond (Level 118 Jenquai Explorer on the Orion server). If E& : xian
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- Xian promise us that even if microsoft offers carmack 2 F60's he wont sell id...PLEASE! :) : dabum

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Anybody remember the Legend of Kyrandia series? Definitely classics from the 'golden era' of adventure games.

Jan 29, 2003 5:48pm PST

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- yeah I especially dug the second one. The music still owns me. : Maarten Goldstein
- I remember having to look up in the manual for the code to continue at points in the first Kyrandia. Tha... : zerologik

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As someone who lives in Vegas it's sad to see them leaving for Hollyweird.

Jan 29, 2003 4:28pm PST

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As someone who lives in Vegas it's sad to see them leaving for Hollyweird. : Cpt. Baseballbat
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- Yep, same here. : Cpt. Baseballbat
- im in vegas too it sucks :( i like passing the building every day. one day i wished to work there! :( : Cpt. Baseballbat

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ha my girl bought me sims online and i ammused her and signed up and played for 12 minutes...well since then they patched them into nerf hell and i hear its miserable...

NOW I HAVE TO CALL TO CANCEL:( i'm going to tell them exactly why I am cancelling.
You guys screwed UO up beyond belief and you guys managed to fuck the sims players over before there 30 days was up dumbasses.

I won't support this crap! Down with EA!!! heh

Jan 29, 2003 4:41pm PST

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Im going to cry. Westwood brought me some of the few RTS games I have enjoyed, namely Red Alert, Red Alert 2 and Yuri's Revenge. They take some flak here but I loved that series. I spent countless hours in RA and RA2.

A moment of silence

Jan 29, 2003 7:19pm PST

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http://messagebrd.westwood.ea.com/cgi-bin/boards/gen/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=013215

Those westwood forum lurkers are scary people.
"Is it just me or does that look like some unreliable crap site that starts rumors to gain hits for their ad banners? "
What ad banners..oh yeah..hehe

Jan 29, 2003 4:06pm PST

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Instead of sprouting off "fuck EA"...

What do you ACTUALLY think will happen to C&C: Generals, will they continue to support it? (sure they'll promise ongoing support to milk the game, but will they actually deliver?)... Time to rethink that preorder...

Jan 29, 2003 4:15pm PST

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Consolidation of gaming studios I think will continue for a while longer. I just hope something can come along to give the industry business model a shot in the arm that will help create many new studios again.

Jan 29, 2003 7:38pm PST

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this makes me sad

Jan 29, 2003 6:03pm PST

this makes me sad : widget

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RIP westwood, truly gaming legends.

Jan 29, 2003 5:28pm PST

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It's rather obvious that they are going to keep and milk the C&C name, that is the only thing that I would expect. The true thing I'm worried about is the possible loss of people from the original Westwood offices in LA. Even though I do consider myself a WW fan, the only reason that I would want them to keep their jobs is so that I get more Tiberium-driven story. Kane is simply the badass of RTS, and I'm eagerly waiting for C&C game in which Nod actually wins; all these Red Alerts and other spin-offs are just mere shadows in my mind compared to how a new Tiberium game would impact me.

Jan 29, 2003 5:47pm PST

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- I know, I want my tiberian twilight... : noxjon

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they are cutting 50 jobs, but plan on hiring 100 more developers after the studio is launched? uhhh

Jan 29, 2003 5:44pm PST

they are cutting 50 jobs, but plan on hiring 100 more developers after the studio is launched? uhhh : ctlaltl33t

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Lands of Lore : Throne of Chaos owns all of the other WW titles, well maybe on equal ground with C&C (1st)

Too bad they never realised the potential that was there, that should have been their mmorpg universe...

Jan 29, 2003 4:14pm PST

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- oh, and EOB 2 and Hand of Fate 2 were pretty fucking good too... Too bad those days are far behind us now... : derean
- Lands of Lore kicked so much ass. They should make a GC LoL. : jrsX

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They aren't shutting anything down... this is stupid, their MERGING.. C&C will still live on... no worries guys.

Jan 29, 2003 4:19pm PST

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- Yeah but ill get teary eyed when I go to Las Vegas now.....I always thought it was cool having a game com... : pigvomit
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NO WESTWOOD???

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

*grabs chest*
*dies*

Jan 29, 2003 4:42pm PST

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- You broke the Shack. : redjakub

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Didn't Westwood do Earth & Beyond?

I think if anyone got fired it would be some of the guys from that project, not the C&C guys. I could be crazy-go-nutso though.

Jan 29, 2003 4:37pm PST

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So is this all a rumor or preety much know, I find it all very hard to believe. Westwood has made a killing off their C&C series and I don't know why they would be moved. Sounds like something you would do to a dying company.

Jan 29, 2003 4:21pm PST

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ORIGIN'D

Jan 29, 2003 4:18pm PST

ORIGIN'D : pigvomit

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I NEVER SAW IT COMING!!!!
SMACK!
/hit by large bright green semi truck with horn blaring.

Jan 29, 2003 4:16pm PST

I NEVER SAW IT COMING!!!! SMACK! /hit by large bright green semi truck with horn blaring. : pigvomit

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This is so short sighted. Companies that think they can achieve good bottom lines for a long period of time by cutting staff often get VERY rude surprises.

Jan 29, 2003 4:04pm PST

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bummer about the loss of jobs.

Jan 29, 2003 4:15pm PST

bummer about the loss of jobs. : brutal

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- Hard to say with certainty since we never got the final patch for the MPTest to see if they got it right,... : UTSD3DSUCKS
- So it's also an indication System Shock and Theif games sucked eh? : Cpt. Baseballbat
- Im sure the new studio will continue with C&C : xenoeye
- I really dig C&C Generals, first game I've preordered in years. : Maarten Goldstein
- It's really not a bad game, such a shame. : Sayj3000

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Holy christ!

Well here is a general observation that I am seeing in gaming these days. Alot of the larger companies are consolidating their resources to develop a couple of games that they hope will sell well for certain genres(FPS and RTS).

Since alot of the these people are being laid off it is only a matter of time before they start talking with each other and forming their own game companies.

I see this as a good thing since their won't be much of a focus on profit, just surrvival, that means that these new companies will take risks and give us some great games.

Jan 29, 2003 3:55pm PST

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Umm, this is not so much of a "shut down" people, they are basically merging the three studios into one big studio. C&C franchise will of course live on as EA continues to milk the name for what its worth.

Jan 29, 2003 4:02pm PST

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- ...was once worth, that would be. : Omaha

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Now who is the fucktard that said EA should buy Blizzard ?

MS doesn't seem so bad after this! HUH! HUH!

Jan 29, 2003 4:03pm PST

Now who is the fucktard that said EA should buy Blizzard ? MS doesn't seem so bad after this! HUH! HUH... : MrLobo

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Last game the original (las vegas) westwood made was Earth and beyond (shit) and Renegade (good, but needed more time cooking) C&C Tib Sun was their last rts.

EA Pacific (formerly westwood pacific) made Red Alert 2 and just shipped C&C generals. The las vegas house had C&C Tiberian Twilight in development. Wonder if we'll ever see that game... And why amalgamate the three dev houses away from EAP, they might lose the staff because of the move.

EA = Corporate fucktards on a global scale. No more EA games for me. Period

Jan 29, 2003 3:55pm PST

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Holy fuck... They've killed Westwood... BASTARDS! I hope you all enjoy many high quality EA branded Command And Conquer products *snort*

Jan 29, 2003 3:41pm PST

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oh, heh. At least sierra have the decency to wait until the game is actually out before canning the team that just made it for you...

Jan 29, 2003 3:44pm PST

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thanks for finishing your latest game!! you're all fired!!

Jan 29, 2003 3:46pm PST

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another household name bites de_dust the dust

Jan 29, 2003 3:47pm PST

another household name bites de_dust the dust : FoX3D

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WTF, they shut down Westwood studios?

Jan 29, 2003 3:39pm PST

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Yay we did well, lets fire more people!

Jan 29, 2003 3:42pm PST

Yay we did well, lets fire more people! : Beady

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