Audigy 2 Launch

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By: evilned x Show Full Post

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After Creative killed Aureal (I loved my old a3d card, it still has better 4 channel sound than anything I've heard) I wont buy anything from them. They sue Aureal, lose, almost get the patent that they were suing about thrown out, but in the process bankrupt Aureal, and then buy an bury the remains. What a bunch a *&^@!#(. Oh yeah, and they cant write drivers to save their life either.

Sep 23, 2002 9:02am PDT

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So, my audigy sucks. Can somebody recommend a good replacement for this POS?

Sep 23, 2002 3:17pm PDT

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So, my audigy sucks. Can somebody recommend a good replacement for this POS? : sheff
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- http://www.pcsound.philips.com/soundcards.html : [7]kami

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Ok, Im building a new rig...I've had an SBLive! Value for about 4 years, and I was planning on getting an AUDIGY Platinum because its the ONLY card I could find that has OPTICAL outputs...To me that means _ZERO_ pure digital signal to my Yamaha RX-V120 reciever that has optical in (my PS2 games and DVDs sound _amazing_ using the optical outs)

SO, if anyone knows of another Sound Card in the same price range as the Audigy Platinum w/ faceplate ($150 at best buy) PLEASE let me know...

I just always figured there was no contest on which sound card to get...I mean i spent a week finding the perfect case for my new box, i knew what sound card to get before I even knew I wanted a new rig...but this thread has been a wake up call.
thanks,
Colin

Sep 23, 2002 3:52pm PDT

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  Is the faceplate really crucial for you? I mean would you mind a "breakout box" ? I can get together s... : brianshizm
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    I wouldnt mind a sep unit at all really. I dont take my computer anywhere :) I'll tell you though, after ... : mankeroo
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      This is a bit more expensive than the Audigy Platinum .. as I started searching I realized that the cards... : brianshizm
      
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      official terratec site for more details on that card: http://www.terratec.com/ : brianshizm
      
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      or maudio if your in the states delta 410 is actually your best bet : stgdz
      
      i'm familiar with that but i haven't heard about its reliability with games so i didn't know whether or n... : brianshizm
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Ok, simple question. Why to this day when I turn on "Hardware Acceleration" for my sblive, games run SLOWER??

Sep 23, 2002 5:56pm PDT

Ok, simple question. Why to this day when I turn on "Hardware Acceleration" for my sblive, games run SLOW : emcea

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Audigy 2 ? Fuck that ! When are they going to fix the craptacular drivers with the current Audigy's ?

-Xian

Sep 23, 2002 8:31am PDT

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Creative ways to make you pay for drivers.

Sep 23, 2002 2:25pm PDT

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- no doubt, I remember when I couldn't get creative playcenter anymore for my nomad jukebox cause the basti... : stgdz
- That is such horseshit. I will never pay for a product that makes me buy drivers or won't let me download : diehlr

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*crys*
when will it stop?
looks at Sb Live only shit it has given me is in BF1942 and to fix it i had to turn the quality up and hardware accel on..

Sep 23, 2002 4:56pm PDT

*crys* when will it stop? looks at Sb Live only shit it has given me is in BF1942 and to fix it i had t... : locobastard

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So are these "craptacular" SB Audigy drivers the reason BF1942 stutters unless I turn the sound quality to low?

Sep 23, 2002 4:11pm PDT

So are these "craptacular" SB Audigy drivers the reason BF1942 stutters unless I turn the sound quality t... : mrtony

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I know theres enough of you who are already aren't buying Audigy 2 because of the drivers, but how many of you noticed this too? In Reply...

Sep 23, 2002 12:56pm PDT

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      aoltimewarner, no problem though, just don't update winamp and if you have a santa cruz like me you don't... : stgdz
      
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      yep when I got the thing from Ebay had the updated drivers CD on it and installed and off I go. file w... : stgdz
      
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      Didn't you read, he NEVER needs to update his drivers, NEVER? : Fred Garvin
      
      Yeah that's truely amazing. But what if has to update to DirectX 9.0 drivers? Then what?? ;) : MarksmanX
      
      Ever used a voodoo 1/2 card on XP? It ain't supported, (barely works, usually doesn't) and they ain't wr : indeego
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And it'll still suck!

http://www.terratec.com/products/6fire/6fire_info.htm

\m/ \m/

Sep 23, 2002 6:50am PDT

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And it'll still suck! http://www.terratec.com/products/6fire/6fire_info.htm \m/ \m/ : Toraz Chryx
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unless this thing can do multiple channel ENCODING (the only thing I know of that can do this currently are nforce motherboards), then this is probably just another rehashed sblive which was absolutely horrible hardware to begin with.

huge bus hog, causing sound loop-crash, random data corrupted on ide drives with certain northbridge chipsets, huge amount of signal noise (try listening to a cd with nice headphones on any creative card vs almost any receiver, you will not be happy), taking the signal from the mic-in when nothing is plugged in adding more signal noise (other cards do not do this), random failure of gameport, dropping support on the creative-americas site, terrible drivers for win9x and the ports to 2k/xp were never even completed feature wise and numerous bugs never fixed, for the original live they even listed features on the box that weren't implemented through the drivers yet because they just thought they could 'get around to it', people couldn't even do center channel passthrough on the 5.1 till people on fansites modded the drivers.

they've just been pushing the same garbage hardware for years and spending all their money on marketing and hype rather than hardware development, the last decent card they made was probably the awe64 and they've just been riding off their brand name since. if you want a good new soundcard with a million impressive looking ports get a hercules gtxp (there also have a new card coming out soon but of course it won't get the same amount of press as when creative designs a new box), if you want a simple well working card get a muse or a mb with onboard cmedia sound and you won't have problems, but really without multi channel encoding there isn't much difference between any of these cards other than price.

Sep 23, 2002 1:55pm PDT

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- It can do multi-channel 16bit 48 Khz. : Fred Garvin
- there is a big difference in sound quality between the sblive and the audigy .. i'm not creative's bigges... : brianshizm

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I have an Audigy, after putting XP on this box I have had to put up with pops and bangs from badly written drivers.

I will not be buying an Audigy2 (I am in the UK).

I object to the fact that Compaq release updated drivers before Creative do.

Sep 23, 2002 11:37am PDT

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  nothing like Snap, crackle, and pop from good speakers : junkstyle
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    Yeah, they are crap, they are the 5.1 version of these http://web6.scan.co.uk/Products/Info.asp?WPID=1... : bb_forrest
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how does this DRM stuff work with .OGGs?

Sep 23, 2002 1:42pm PDT

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damn $250 isn't pocket change, but my mx300 is OLD!!

Sep 23, 2002 7:56am PDT

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damn $250 isn't pocket change, but my mx300 is OLD!! : [gooie b]
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Hey guys it gets even better

http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/27232.html

now creative and M$ can tell us what we can and can't listen too

Sep 23, 2002 1:29pm PDT

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Hmm, I like my audigy and I think I'll be buying an audigy II- but not the plat version this time. Too much stuff up front and I rarely use it.

Sep 23, 2002 1:03pm PDT

Hmm, I like my audigy and I think I'll be buying an audigy II- but not the plat version this time. Too mu... : brutal

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This company's name is very ironic, considering they haven't done anything remotely creative for years. heh

Sep 23, 2002 12:42pm PDT

This company's name is very ironic, considering they haven't done anything remotely creative for years. h... : hunterkiller

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And still

Santa Cruz>Audigy 2

Sep 23, 2002 11:16am PDT

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bleh, it still lacks real-time DD5.1 encoding.. gg creative!

Sep 23, 2002 6:51am PDT

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bleh, it still lacks real-time DD5.1 encoding.. gg creative! : eiopa
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  That won't be hard. They'll just have a wrapper that converts to DX audio most likely. : Fred Garvin
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    You lost me there :P what does this has to do with the fact that their hw (even the latest revision) stil... : eiopa
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      Erm, you do realize i wasnt referring to Doom3/other DD5.1 enabled games & the possible compatibility iss... : eiopa
      
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      Id supported A3d in Q3 and look what creative did to them : stgdz
      
      a3d was aureal...and what can creative do to id? its more like what they do to creative, whether they cho... : ansuble
      
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      That completely depends on the reciever doesn't it. I doubt a $200 DD reciever will have better DACs than... : Fred Garvin
      
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      i beg to differ ;) either way, the fact that they have halfway decent DACs still doesnt get them off the ... : eiopa
      
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      It basically means that creative's hw is up to a certain standard determined by Lucas' folks.. Now, this ... : eiopa
      
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      Ask this guy: http://www.audiogang.org/profiles/index.php?sec=prf1#dennis : Fred Garvin
      
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      his email is not listed ;( : eiopa
      
      Doh, sorry I though it was. : Fred Garvin
      
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      THX = a REALLY FUCKING ANNOYING short screener that is played before many movies. I don't care if indu... : Polish Sausage
      
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      erm, for the most part, thats hardly an issue.. also, what reciver do you have? EVERY home theater recive... : eiopa
      
      I have one cable going from my Audigy to my amp. : Fred Garvin

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I currently have an Audigy Platinum with the 400.00 Klipsch THX 5.1 set of computer speakers. A digital coax line runs from my DVD player across the room into my audigy and I use it for watching movies. The sound is great.

What I want to know, is if Creative will let me keep my current Livedrive front panel Firewire plate, and use it with the new Audigy 2 so I only have to spend 129.00 on the new basic card and not the whole package. That would be great.

Sep 23, 2002 12:13pm PDT

I currently have an Audigy Platinum with the 400.00 Klipsch THX 5.1 set of computer speakers. A digital ... : Arjun Thakur

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THX certification, but not WHQL certification. Next!

Sep 23, 2002 6:50am PDT

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I, like many many others, will buy whatever sound card Carmack says to buy once DOOM III comes out. If that's creative, then so be it. As much as their burners suck and as many BSOD's their DXR3 has been giving me in XP, I've never had problems with their sound cards.

Sep 23, 2002 7:55am PDT

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i wish aurel was still around.... i also wish nvidia would release the nforce card as a regular pci soundcard

aureal was the only company to kick creative in the ass... mainly because creative was lazy and a3d 1.0 cards owned hardcore back in the day

Sep 23, 2002 10:18am PDT

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      No, it's factual testing. Look up the definition of anecdotal and get back to me. : Fred Garvin
      
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      Ah, so all I'm missing is the graphs. Roger, I'll get right on that. : johnny rotten
      
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      Hmmm, objective testing with quantifiable results vs. "Creative sux0rs!!!!" : Fred Garvin
      
      Did I not already provide evidence? Game A with Hardware sound enabled : x fps Game A with Software S... : johnny rotten
      
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      using 1% of the cpu vs using 4% of the cpu isn't much man. also remember that this is tom's that you a... : Polish Sausage
      
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      Like?? Name what the Aureal card could do that this card can't. : Fred Garvin
      
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      http://www6.tomshardware.com/video/02q1/020115/terratec-16.html We observed that in the music field, e... : Polish Sausage
      
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      And the Audigy 2 does 24bit 96KHz recording without downsampling. Try actually reading the article before... : Fred Garvin
      
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      He was QUOTING the article! "We observed that in the music field, especially with regard to inputs/ ou : Toraz Chryx
      
      That's not the Audigy 2, read carefully. : Fred Garvin
      
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      http://www.vr-zone.com/shows/Creative-Audigy2/page4.htm : Fred Garvin
      
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Buy a MB with 5.1 support and you won't have to waste money on this shit :)

Sep 23, 2002 7:46am PDT

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- doesn't that slow the mobo down tho? : []v[]adwacker

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Damn, and I just bought my first Audigy last week! At least I can wait for the price to go down.

Sep 23, 2002 10:37am PDT

Damn, and I just bought my first Audigy last week! At least I can wait for the price to go down. : mofo

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Audigy 2, yet another shite overhyped product from Creative that's guaranteed to still find its way to pc's of millions of ignorant customers allover the world...

No competition is bad.

Sep 23, 2002 10:28am PDT

Audigy 2, yet another shite overhyped product from Creative that's guaranteed to still find its way to pc... : localhost

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I wish creative would follow in the footsteps of 3Dfx and DIE!

Sep 23, 2002 7:51am PDT

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Why make audigy 2 when you can't even get the first one right?

Sep 23, 2002 9:42am PDT

Why make audigy 2 when you can't even get the first one right? : tension

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That website is slow as hell.

Sep 23, 2002 9:40am PDT

That website is slow as hell. : b00g

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Another creative product I will not buy due to the troubles with my sblive!

Sep 23, 2002 7:38am PDT

Another creative product I will not buy due to the troubles with my sblive! : batkiwi

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Sooooooo, are the drivers good enough to harness the potential of this card?
I really really doubt it :(

Sep 23, 2002 7:25am PDT

Sooooooo, are the drivers good enough to harness the potential of this card? I really really doubt it :( : moshman

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sounds swank if the driver's don't suck teh italian sausage...

Sep 23, 2002 6:50am PDT

sounds swank if the driver's don't suck teh italian sausage... : [gooie b]

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Down with Creative. Next.....

Sep 23, 2002 6:50am PDT

Down with Creative. Next..... : pimpium

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First comment....goddamnit i had my audigy ex for just a few months now this...

Sep 23, 2002 6:49am PDT

First comment....goddamnit i had my audigy ex for just a few months now this... : GreenCrescent

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