UT 2003 Demo Coming

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  also firing effects displaying after the instant hit had already happened. i may just not be elite enoug... : grendel
  • That was intentional on their part, which I thought made the ASMD feel a little less solid than it should... : Dynotaku
  • yeah, I hated UT's netcode with a passion : hawkeye
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  the smudgy textures, what in fucks name are you talking about? Q3's textures look like total shite, UT... : hawkeye
  • note: I'm talking about Detail Textures turned on, without that it looks just as bad as Q3 : hawkeye
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    i will admit that quake3 looked and felt flat all over. the textures themselves weren't really that inte... : grendel
    • i feel the q3 engine pulsated with life compared to the ut engine. lightmap and shaders and good textures... : aptus
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      S3TC textures with OpenGL driver = The thing that kept be busy until the UT2003 demo. : gregorybrown
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        people that are still playing UT today should be committed. : grendel
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          Thats a bit extreme. What if I said "people that are still playing CS should be commited." : Vorlonesque
          • i'd sign that bill into law. : grendel
          • Heck I just downloaded a new .wad for Doom yesterday :) Playing it on my 1.4Ghz/ATI All in Wonder/WinXP m... : Lynn Minmei
        • God grendel cutback on the UT hating... you don't like it, picture painted. Play something else. : FuryVII
• hoorj for no longer having to support cards limited to 256x256. : the archvile
• Your comment of uninspired weapons from ID is way off base. Q3's weapons are the best weapon combinations... : sweet0001
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  No high res textures in the demo. They cutted to mip map levels to keep the file downloadable... -- Da... : perforierer
  • two mip map levels. sorry. : perforierer

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• Great new very different levels with lots of details, great texture work, cool animations especially wit... : perforierer
• New maps, new modes, new weapons, new gameplay. Next question. : !gnoleb
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  an increase of about 100 fold of the number of faces allowed in the maps (which means that epic's ability... : jaga
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    along with 32-bit textures larger than 256x256. And maybe some bump mapping too. : the archvile
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      Nu bump-mapping, but other stuff like render to texture and cubemaps...its ok like it is now :) : perforierer
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        I guess that's better; don't want slowdowns like Tenebrae. : the archvile
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          Dude don't think bump mapping = the evil, due to tenebrae. It's the frigging quake code with bump mappin... : kingdepork
          • So you're saying Quake 1 is like... a Geo Prisim? SHAZBOT : morinaga
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        how can it be 3 gigs if it doesnt have any bump mapping? did an elephant make this? : ease_one
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          Yeah I definately don't get how it's going to be 3 gigs, but he's right theres no bump mapping in UT2003,... : gl2 drivers
          • Textures, dude. The demo will contain 4 levels. Its a 100 Meg DL. But they cutted two mi map levels, so n... : perforierer
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  its a more quake-ified game. it has higher poly counts, runs faster, as less reliance on spam and more on... : aptus
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    though from what movies I've seen, the characters still seem to glide on the ground. Hope they fix this b... : jaga
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      In a fire fight does it really matter? I have seen Quake models glide too. : Fred Garvin
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        yes it matters.. it makes it look bad. the basic quake3 models never did : jaga
        • graphics != gameplay teehee : aptus
        • I don't really care too much about looks. I just wanna run fast and and kill stuff! : Vorlonesque
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  It might be respectable in terms of competition, instead of newbie spamfest, blind people can get in the ... : kingdepork
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    just keep in mind that demos are NOT going to be available out of the box and that epic is NOT coding a c... : aptus
    • Sorry i forgot these were the people who uttered "GRAHAPHAICS EKWULS GAMPALAY!!" : kingdepork
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      They're not coding a competition mod because they feel it's ready for competition out of the box. ID n... : batkiwi
      • ID never did fine without a comp mod - the community (read - rhea and that q3comp guy) got together and f... : xfoo
      • from what i have seen they wont have simple things like callvote for ref status, warmup mode, etc. of cou... : aptus
• UT came out...UT2K has not. : IcomeINpeace
• welcome back : warren
• More colored lights. : haikeebah!

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• Learn to use the reply button noob. ;p hehe... : chronic

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  so we are all going to look the same? If thats the case i am highly unimpressed. Unless its a high detai... : Silent Wolf
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    Dude, the Q3 test only had 1 model : Dynotaku
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      Didn't it have two? One of them you had to select through a trick or something thoguh : Anti_dentite
      • That was later on. I think it may have been a little after they added tourney2 (or maybe it was that rel... : Vorlonesque
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    who gives a fuck? I'm personally tired of demo's being released that leave nothing to be desired in the f... : fluze
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      You're either joking or coagulated. You're forgetting that RTCW was also an SP game as well. It was not m... : highlow
      • Coagulated? That's an insult? : Fred Garvin
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  +Informative! :) And under 100 megs? That's pretty impressive, considering the full game is 3 gigs. 1... : Dynotaku
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    interesting. : Silent Wolf
    • Whatever. You know what I meaning. : Dynotaku
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  But a few skins i hope... : perforierer
  • Nobody knows atm.. : H-52
• More from the same chat http://www.ina-community.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=201570 : H-52
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  The villiagers will download 110MB if it includes a second model. : []v[]adwacker
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    I think it's like when something's "99 cents" vs $1.03 or something. Sure it's only 4% different, and ... : batkiwi
    • even if it was 250 megs I'd download it, but I see your point. : []v[]adwacker
• why keep the download small? everyone i know downloaed the HL OEM iso demo on a modem for hours, and they... : ease_one
• not gonna bother me, i play with force models in any game that lets me. that way i don't have to look at... : Turd Ferguson
• under 100 megs; that answers one of my questions. Thanks Epic. : the archvile
• One mesh, multiple skins. Thats what cliffy B said about it: "One mesh, multiple skins. Sorry, can't... : perforierer

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• You're just realizing this about Cliffy?!? -XxX : intoxxxicated
• Read post number 366. I say: Cliffy B has helped to develop a lot of cool games! What did u do? Nothing! : perforierer

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• Look up karma physics engine, its all good :) : xenoeye

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  According to mark rein the TNT2 will handle it fine. Snicker............ : UTSD3DSUCKS
  • No, according to mark a TNT2 will run it, i.e. start the exe :P : xenoeye
• Your card will run the demo just fine. : H-52
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  Hey, I expect my GeForce2 MX to run it fine, as long as I keep the detail level down and keep the resolut... : gregorybrown
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    It won't. I tried. Though I had a 900mhz w/ 256 ram. I have upgraded since, but believe me. It looks ... : pun][sher
    • Old build and ok, a gf2 MX isnt even mid class today.. : perforierer

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• Did you even read the news item at the top of the page? : gl2 drivers

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• http://www.apartment6.org/~lark/webcam329.jpg http://www.apartment6.org/~lark/webcam32_9.jpg : Turd Ferguson

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  i bet DNF will be out b4 teen fortress 2 : postal21
  • LOL everytime I hear DNFand TF2 I always laugh cause I keep totally forgettin about those games. When ... : mc-fine

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  everything BUT the 4x AA i would say. : aptus
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    I never used AA before. Getting my radeon Friday. Does it kill performance? Do you see a huge differen... : pun][sher
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      you will be able to turn on 4xFSAA and AF in nearly every game, some games maybe not but the 9700 doesn'... : Turd Ferguson
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        Could someone tell me exactly what anisotropic filtering and AA do? I think I know AA fixes jagged edges... : pun][sher
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          It fixes problems with viewing textures at different differences. Let me see if I can dig up an article f... : gregorybrown
          • I would be very greatful. : pun][sher
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          http://www.anandtech.com/guides/viewfaq.html?i=36 Excellent sum-up. : gregorybrown
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            Thanks man : pun][sher
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              Here's a nice High quality shot comparison I made for ya: http://members.rogers.com/fluke/anisotropic.jp... : fluke
              • Sweet. I will definatly try those settings! : pun][sher
        • http://www.dorbie.com/anisotropic.html a bit more in depth, most of it is still pretty easy to understand... : Turd Ferguson
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      2xAA isnt so bad on performance, but 4x and higher will really hit into it. look around for radeon review... : aptus
      • keep in mind i thought you were talking about an 8500 and not one of those massivly powerful 9700's. eith... : aptus
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  i should think so! : grendel
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    absolutely not. What a piece of crap computer you have. : rantor
    • Just kiddin' : ) : rantor
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  If its not faster than the 927 build (which, hopefully it will be), you'll probably want to go with 800x6... : yakz
  • YEah but don't forget the 927 build is at LEAST 3 month old code. : Dynotaku

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• I still play Q3 once awhile, a game of deathmatch here and there is all that is needed. What exactly are ... : pointchiz57

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• Yeah, it should run alright. You might need to turn down some settings because of your processor, but eve... : Magitek

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  you trolled the tribes2 thread badly yesterday, dont even bother with this one ;) : aptus
  • I never have "trolled". Thanks!!1 : Goat Whore

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  That's a GEFORCE 2MX 400 :-) : MossZ0685
  • Its a little short on CPU power according to the specs but I'd give the demo a shot and go from there. : xenoeye
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  Really? I have the same video card on a 1.7 512RAM and it runs BF1942 like shiet. : hodapp1234
  • i get some lag, but it usually runs fine : MossZ0685
  • I have P4-1.6, 1Gb RAM and GeForce3 (telecommuting = free boxen), Optimum Online (1.5 down/900+ up)......... : Ride-My-Rocket
• It should work fine, after all, that's about what I'm gonna run it on. It won't run super, but it'll prob... : gregorybrown
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  Haha I havea an AMD 850 and GF2 64mb and BF1942 DOES NOT run "perfect". Its quite choppy actually. Which ... : FuryVII
  • that choppyness is alll processor though.. i run a 1.5ghz celeron w/ a 64mb gf2 and its pretty smooth in ... : supaslasha

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• OCEEE the suckor : brutal
• There's no way it'll be playable with that hardware. : Liquid
• UT2 is ALL about the video card. Your chip, while at the low end of the totem should be fine, as long as... : Dynotaku
• Don't even bother trying to play. : yakz
• Get a fairly high end graphics card and you will be seating nicely : elementZen
• don't bother. upgrade : warren

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  They don't have a Sniper Rifle in the game now? : *metal*
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    It's been replaced with the lightning gun which is pretty much the same except it leaves a trail of light... : Dingbat
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      Why not just make a sniper rifle that leaves a trail of smoke? Oh well. : brianshizm
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        Because lightning looks cooler. : gregorybrown
        • Although you have to admit the sniper rifle in Halo was pretty cool. Packed a punch too. : Dynotaku
    • i wonder if its hit-scan or not : veggie
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  HEADSHOT! .. gonna miss it :( : diehlr
  • why, they still have headshots. : cigam
  • Yea headshot is still in.... : FuryVII

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• unreal warfare engine is what this is no idea what DNF is : Turd Ferguson
• the Unreal Engine was designed to be modular, so you can upgrade individual pieces without revamping the ... : hawkeye

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  Movement and the RL are more like in Q3 than in UT. So i think Q3 fans will like UT2003... : perforierer
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    is the widely whored shock combo still unchanged? I always thought that thing needed a little bit of nerf... : jet-poop
    • duh. you just said that about the movement... : jet-poop
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      its been nerfed slightly : aptus
      • nerf it up homegirl : brianshizm
  • if the movement is more like q3a then i might play it movement is the one thing that turned me off of ... : TheTick
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  I hope so, why should they attempt to become more like a product that they managed to outcompete despite ... : Dreagon
  • they didnt outcompete it, q3 and ut were relativly equal and still are. there is nothing wrong with ta... : aptus
  • i see it as the opposite, q3 was a far better game in terms of how much skill it allowed, the level of pl... : Turd Ferguson
• It doesn't really cater to existing UT players. The shock combo has been fairly toned down, the sniper ri... : StimpyBoy-KNoB-

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  wouldnt be the first time marky boy slipped up. Personally i think he is the worst pr person ever. : Silent Wolf
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    Hes not truly PR. Hes the VP and assumes the role of PR I guess. Or at least I'd hope. : FuryVII
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      he's an idiot on so many levels, a total corporate pr guy. they need a new pr guy who can handle the comm... : aptus
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        right... I'm not saying mistakes weren't made here, but from what I've seen Mark's been straightfoward an : fluze
        • He gets the corporate pr guy crap because of the vague answers and all that 2 weeks bullshit but he's act... : xenoeye
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          he tries, but he is never prepared enough. the pr guy who deals with the community needs to know the game... : aptus
          • i have nothing against hype, but spouting off half truths doesnt not make friends. I dont like to be lie... : Silent Wolf
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            He needs to do email interviews where he has time to research info for the questions posed and give thoro... : FuryVII
            • that would probably solve my complaint with him. : aptus

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• MINIMUM i would say..hmm, well BF9142 states a 500MHZ and i remember reading that BF1942 and UT2003 were ... : MossZ0685
• Check the unreal web site.... : brutal
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  here you go!!!! Operating System: WIN 98/ME/2000/XP CPU: Pentium III or AMD Athlon 733MHz processor (*P... : brutal
  • 0wned : disembodied potato
  • 3gig HD space? Christ. These had better be the highest-resolution textures I've ever seen. : Flawless Cowboy
• http://www.unrealtournament2003.com/?faq and of course ignore the summer 2002 release forecast. : the archvile

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• Read the IRC chat, 100MB ZIPPED : MossZ0685

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  mini-fool stop humping the demo : xenoeye
  • *bites the ear off the hairless cat* : crazyfool
• I can please you like no other demos can!!! : TERATOGEN